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Albania LastJudgment 
2021-11-29 00:11
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i.imgur.com/UojrMJj.png while being in a garbage team that will disband soon he puts up these numbers btw
2021-11-29 00:12
55 replies
So did s1 with zeus edward, ur point?
2021-11-29 00:13
8 replies
By baiting em
2021-11-29 01:53
6 replies
yo bro who's ur copium dealer im running low
2021-11-29 01:55
5 replies
Lmao
2021-11-29 07:10
#66
b1t | 
Russia lo0u
Lmao
2021-11-29 07:20
rekt
2021-11-29 07:23
Hahahaha
2021-11-29 07:42
Lmao hahahhahaha
2021-11-29 09:31
That they are both great and OP doesn't proof a point?
2021-11-29 09:27
exactly. in each tournament if vitality would've won zywoo would've got the mvp, and when navi is literally so good it's such a stupid comparison.
2021-11-29 00:13
3 replies
nobody ever called it dumb when people said s1mple is not good because he had zeus edward flamie in the team.It was never in the conversation then why change now? even tho its logical its a morons coping mechanism.
2021-11-29 01:01
1 reply
1. ofc it was 2. no one was really on par with s1mple or even close to him, so even if navi lost, it was obvious that s1mple is still the best.
2021-11-29 01:09
like it or not, zywoo is part of the reason they didnt win anything
2021-11-29 07:29
bc its easier to get these numbers if your teammates perform like shit
2021-11-29 00:13
21 replies
true, s1mple math
2021-11-29 00:17
10iq detected
2021-11-29 00:17
14 replies
elaborate, 0.1 iq worm
2021-11-29 00:18
4 replies
if your team is better you win more rounds, if you win more round you have a better economy, if you have a better economy you can afford more gun rounds, if you can afford more gun rounds you will get more kills. It also has to do with positions. Playing on a very bad team forces you into bad positions, take unfavorable duels, and makes you more desperate to find early advantages. If your team is dominant and outclassing the enemy team, you can more easily get in very comfortable multifrag positions. Also, another factor is that a team being very dominant wins most of the rounds. Your frags has a higher chance of being in a round win. If you get a 3k and your team loses the round anyway, you get less rating because your team didn't win the round. That doesn't happen as often on a dominant team.
2021-11-29 00:20
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#52
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United Kingdom Triturn
if ur team can't get kills, you get more multi kills. multi kills make ur rating massive
2021-11-29 01:49
2 replies
lmao
2021-11-29 02:19
#71
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India Lunat1c777
No. If your team doesn't get any kills and keep losing their duels you are usually forced to save. And we all know what happens when we save on the t side. No money and somehow doe after time
2021-11-29 07:32
but he is right and u know it lol if ur team is bad, all the kills are left for urself, but when the whole team is good, u basically have to fight ur team to get the kills and stats in general
2021-11-29 00:21
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2021-11-29 00:22
3 replies
tldr
2021-11-29 01:30
2 replies
tldr; read something longer than 10 words for once
2021-11-29 07:11
1 reply
flair checks out
2021-11-29 15:54
Thats not how it works. Its not a matter of how much kills you get. You can have a good rating with a 16 - 5 score in a 16 - 4 match. Thats what happens to Boombla and Perfecto these days for exemple. And if you know anything about Zywoo is that he doesnt die a lot and he would get a lot of these ratings and even better if he was in a good system. Having rating when you destroy your opponents is extremely easy especialy for s1 and zy
2021-11-29 00:23
you can disprove yourself by taking 10 seconds and looking at stats.
2021-11-29 01:10
go educate self u -8 icq baguette ass
2021-11-29 00:50
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#13 nt
2021-11-29 01:07
#23
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
No lol. It's way easier to get a kill on a 5v5 than a 1v5
2021-11-29 00:30
facts
2021-11-29 00:49
#48
allu | 
Europe JUNlOR
s1mple's already disproved it, no? b1t and electronic also perform great yet s1mple keeps putting up the numbers.
2021-11-29 01:09
i mean mathematically its not you have less buys by that logic already you are just objectively wrong. However it doesnt mean you have to play shot if your team pops off because i know thats the dumb excuse u will use
2021-11-29 01:47
hahaha actually a bad bait. yea u in 1v5 situation and its easier to get good stats LOL
2021-11-29 02:21
Count me how many years s1mple has been with garbage / unstable teams? LOL
2021-11-29 00:14
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#8
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Bahrain Ax1yn
s1mple was playing with dogshit teammates for 6+ years, ZywOo facing the same issues, Everyone knows it but they just make a lot of excuses. Let's see how 2022 goes with Vitality roster changes hopefully they play good or they will end up losing like this year.
2021-11-29 00:16
Just like how it was in 2019? I don't get one thing tho. What's with the spike in toxic gambit fans. Always trashtalking Na'vi. You don't have to feel insecure just because na'vi is good now. Hobbit is known for being nice and humble and then there's these people.sigh.
2021-11-29 00:21
15 replies
where the fuck was i trashtalking anyone? is everyone on this forum mentally challenged?
2021-11-29 00:23
14 replies
Mentally challenged says the one having cock for a mouth. You don't have to praise 1 guy while dissing the other.Buzz off with that hypocrite shit.
2021-11-29 00:24
13 replies
read #1 again fuckface
2021-11-29 00:28
12 replies
Buzz off dumbshit . You don't even have the comprehension ability to understand what you implied. There's no helping you.
2021-11-29 00:29
11 replies
you literally cannot read, you're actual braindead retard.
2021-11-29 00:35
10 replies
Says the brain lacking child.Cry more little shit.
2021-11-29 00:36
9 replies
stop skipping class kid, if you lack reading comprehension you honestly shouldn't.
2021-11-29 00:37
8 replies
man, you just used my own words against me.It's okay.I know your vocaubulary is lesser than the number of letters in your name.Hope you feel happy about it,little shit
2021-11-29 00:39
7 replies
look how upset the retard gets because he is frustrated that he cannot comprehend a single sentence 😂
2021-11-29 00:39
6 replies
Awww, i wish i could agree to make you happy. Learn words before using them my guy.
2021-11-29 00:40
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>while being in a garbage team that will disband soon he puts up these numbers btw >What's with the spike in toxic gambit fans. Always trashtalking Na'vi. You don't have to feel insecure just because na'vi is good now. absolutely embarrassing to not understand what the comment meant /closed
2021-11-29 00:41
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You pretty much implied s1mple and zywoo stand the same when infact it's a bit more varying than you showed hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. Tell me again where you pulled that imgur stat from which favoured zywoo.
2021-11-29 00:55
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alright, you're actually more stupid than i thought. this imgur picture is from the matchpage preview before the final, and you posted links after the final. this still doesn't change the fact that you make a stupid claim about toxicity when literally all i did was give zywoos his credit. you're the toxic kid here and it showed. /closed
2021-11-29 00:58
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Says the dumb shit who uses before final stats when the event already ended. Ofc zywoo has better stats then because they smashed astralis. when you're talking shit, atleast be up to date with shit. What i thought was you were one of those delusional fools who used certain stats to prove their own biased claim.Here it isn't that. It's just you're a boomer who couldn't really use the current stats and it looked as if you pulled own out of your ass. Take you medicine and go back to sleep ancient shit talker.
2021-11-29 02:05
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BOROS | 
Spain Sebox
Lmao this is the second post i see you saying dumb shit and then embarrasing yourself trying to answer ppl calling you out, starting to get incel vibes from your case hahahahhahahahah get help
2021-11-29 04:50
S1mple had a bad team in 2018 as well, but instead of crying, he carried the shit out of the team to win trophies. This excuse "zywho has bad team" is so fucking pointless cuz there is no excuse to farm rating but carry no tournament win.
2021-11-29 07:38
#78
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Finland Kaljakka
Literally did even better eith shittier team ;D 1.35 remeber
2021-11-29 07:52
I mean one of them plays with good russian players and one has to play with dogshit IGL, washed up and dogshit lurker and 2 youngsters that can't do all the work Shox & Apex are famous for ruining careers and teams, yet people are willing to suck their dick and to cry when someone starts telling the facts about them
2021-11-29 00:14
#3
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Egypt BomberMan_
n1 and n2. difference is NaVi finally built him a real squad for once.
2021-11-29 00:12
ZyW000
2021-11-29 00:15
if you take the 7 years of s1mple and the 3 years of zywoo, it s not that impressing anymore zywoo has won as many mvp in 2 years as s1mple in 6
2021-11-29 00:30
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#32
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Ukraine McSwell
It is, considering a fact most s1mple mvps come from events win, while most of zywoo's don't.
2021-11-29 00:41
7 replies
only 2 dosen t, but that show how great he is.. not saying zywoo is betetr than s1mple but to me they are similar.. just depend the day who is the best , sometimes its zywoo sometimes it s s1mple
2021-11-29 00:42
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#35
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Ukraine McSwell
6 from 11 of zywoo mvps are 2nd places at events. 2 Cologne mvps with 0 wins, s1mple has 2 Cologne mvps with 2 wins, nuff said.
2021-11-29 00:43
4 replies
but do you realize getting mvp without the win mean you are clearly better than the other players, it s even harder than with a win
2021-11-29 00:43
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#37
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Ukraine McSwell
No, I only value mvps from won events, because if you're playing good but don't win - it doesn't matter in the end how good you were.
2021-11-29 00:45
2 replies
0/8
2021-11-29 01:08
1 reply
actually you are 0/8 history remembers the winners not the losers So s1mple_2_cologne_zywho_0
2021-11-29 02:15
when you win more there is obv higher % of tournament wins mvps But that doesn't say that you wouldn't get the mvp when you lose the final.
2021-11-29 07:47
Zywoo has almost the same tournament rating as s1mple while carrying 2 mediocre (Apex, misutaa) and 2 bots (shox, kyojin) while s1mple actually has timemates who help him out. I still think Zywoo and s1mple are on the same level, s1mple just has the better mates and better system rn. Imagine what Zywoo could do in a team like G2.
2021-11-29 00:39
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S1mple never used his team as an excuse to not perform. Even when he could in Liquid, in Navi from 2017-2019. When S1mple team was bad he just made the best year in the history of csgo for an individual player. Meanwhile zywho farm rating in group stages lmao
2021-11-29 07:43
#29
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Algeria Crashwow
7 Tournament victories
2021-11-29 00:39
Why do you all complain who is better instead of appreciate the fact that we live in era of CS where we have two gods at this game and no one is even close to them. Instead of making these threads, try to think what could happened if they both played together in one team
2021-11-29 01:04
#53
catgirl | 
Europe r41
zywoo has a really good team, he just doesn't know how to help them win. When you watch s1mple he does a lot for the team and you can even see him calling and motivating them. Stop blaming the team, they doing the dirty work for him
2021-11-29 01:51
3 replies
Bad bait lmaooooo
2021-11-29 07:25
2 replies
Not a bait. With Alex IGL the whole team said that is their strat. Push zywho that was the whole strategy. Or do you say Vitality players are liars?
2021-11-29 07:44
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Of course they're relying on him, but he's actually an incredible teammate. If you watch their games and know the game that should be immediately obvious.
2021-11-29 09:26
#61
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Indonesia FinZzz
Right cause s1mple won all the tournaments including major just by himself 🤦‍♂️ stupid comparison
2021-11-29 04:54
4 replies
Blast didnt comfirm any of what you said.They are just showing "FACTS"
2021-11-29 05:14
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#63
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Indonesia FinZzz
Ye but its taken out of context by s1mple fanboys. S1mple has an exceptional team to back him up. Eletronic and B1t top 10 riflers in the game atm, perfecto one of the best support players. Compare that to Vitality. Shox is inconsistent, kyojin and mosuta little to no experience on LAN. Only Zywoo is guaranteed a top 20 spot whereas in Navi at least 3 players will be there
2021-11-29 07:09
Maybe with teammates? Just if there wasn't like perfecto, or elec Or even b1t he would stay s0mple
2021-11-29 07:22
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S1mple shape them. Especially Electronic said several times he is motivated for cs cuz of s1mple. He wants to support such a player and he said everyone around him wants to become a better player. That is also a winning ability Zywho doesn't have.
2021-11-29 07:46
#79
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Romania narci6tic
The discrepancy between those stats doesn't reflect the real skill gap between them. By those stats even someone like Pronax (good IGL, but let's be real, not someone you'd think about as top CS players in history) is better than ZywOo. Which is wrong! ZywOo top frags in a washed up team (sorry shox! :-( ) that barely helps him in-game. And yet, it is ZywOo that takes that team to the final beating a hot Astralis. The ability difference between S1mple and ZywOo isn't that different and on a good day they can perform like out of this world. It is the team that make the difference and gets the results in the end, not the player.
2021-11-29 08:06
oh there goes the daily zywoo v s1mple thread
2021-11-29 09:27
I think stats depend on individual skills. Zywoo & s1mple both have amazing skill with insane game sense(Anticipation of Player position) Zywoo is calm when killing not overpeek & we know s1mple is overpeeking & died xD, sometimes he goes to hyper aggressive. It is his nature of playing, NAVI has very good synergy so they dominating scene like Astralis. where, Zywoo & his teammates are unable to make synergy with consistency. If there is good understanding,& synergy with teammates, you can perform very well. Previous NAVI had no enough synergy, they played with only skills so s1mple top frag (2018). In Vitality & most of teams have no synergy, so they win only when they get synergy & timings with skills. Synergy = Understanding of Teammates and giving correct info and believe in teammates & their calls
2021-11-29 09:45
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