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KYOJIN AND SHOX'S FUTURE?
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Poland pinky02 
First of all I wanna thanks for them. It was very enjoying waching them playing in Vitality jersey. Some could say that they are not good enough for this level, but when they realised, that with shox Vitality won 3 S-Tier tournaments and 5 times achieved 2nd place in S-Tier also with Kyojin they got second place on Blast now they should show some respect towards them. Anyway, what do you think is gonna happened to their future? shox is mostly linked with Liquid, but what about Kjoyin?
2021-11-29 00:19
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for being sooo bad they reached quite a few finals tbh, they would've won a couple if navi wasnt so dominant as well. getting too much hate, kyo was rushed a little and shoxie deffo has a couple of years left in him. wish them all the best.
2021-11-29 00:20
11 replies
There is no French players available to make new team, so shox is gonna probably join Liquid and Kyojin to DBL Pony or LDLC
2021-11-29 00:25
10 replies
jeyn
2021-11-29 13:30
8 replies
Nobody knows exactly what happened with Heretics, but to be kicked like he was it must have been pretty bad. I don't think we will ever hear from him ever again..
2021-11-29 14:15
7 replies
i mean if hed want to play hed probably get a spot on ldlc or some other french team for sure, same like D0gG he just doenst want to play in a pro team and all that shit stories about parrents restricting him to talk is dogshit
2021-11-29 14:43
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Parent restrictions were just a bad excuse to hide the real problem. I think he did things that will block him from any T2/T1 team (at least in FR). I don't think he has any options or he would be there already. It's been 1 year 1/2 and he is in a shitty UK mix that's not even complete..
2021-11-29 15:00
He said that he wants to finish his studies first, but for me its just a random excuse Both him and day0s are just blatant cheaters for me day0s for 100%, jeyN 50%
2021-11-29 15:05
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I would tend to agree with the jeyN 50%. Quite some people had major doubts about him on Faceit back in 2018 already. But no proof so for now I'd say the reason is, he has been extremely unprofessional/disrespectful in some ways..
2021-11-29 15:17
3 replies
For me if you are lan dodger and perform like a god online its a high chance that something is wrong with you
2021-11-29 15:24
2 replies
fair enough but again no proof so innocent until proven guilty in my eyes
2021-11-29 16:06
1 reply
well he is close friend to day0s and we know who day0s trully is
2021-11-29 16:11
#91
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Indonesia lumayan
whole dbl poney roster >> kyojin. why would they downgrade?
2021-11-29 15:54
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France Kanignobule
+1
2021-11-29 00:22
1 reply
I love cheese
2021-11-29 00:23
If NBK returned from Valorant and decided to make a team...
2021-11-29 00:23
3 replies
I would love to see it, but when I was watching NBK last year in CSGO, he was very depressed. It looked like he lost his passion to this game
2021-11-29 00:27
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But i trully believe that he could be still a great captain
2021-11-29 00:30
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i think he would be great in kyojin roles
2021-11-29 01:52
Kyo seems to be insane at aiming, but maybe needs some experience. Maybe some day he can get really good, maybe join international lineup, or another french?
2021-11-29 00:23
18 replies
Of course he can. He is insanely talented. Only played 131 maps on pro scene. It was quite crazy by Vitality to pick a player completly new on a scene and dump him straight up to tier 1
2021-11-29 00:29
17 replies
It wasn't crazy, many teams did the same, it just didn't work out in his case.
2021-11-29 01:43
16 replies
#32
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Latvia emzijs
name atleast one
2021-11-29 02:56
15 replies
Vitality with Zywoo, LG with Coldzera.
2021-11-29 03:01
4 replies
zywoo and coldzera were already playing for t3 teams. Kyojin was just a faceit pugstar.
2021-11-29 03:29
2 replies
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Indonesia FinZzz
+1
2021-11-29 12:26
+1
2021-11-29 14:18
Zinedine ZywOo was playing in aAa before
2021-11-29 13:10
Bymas, u should know that cuz ur favourite team did that. I can name few more players if in "new on a scene" u don't include matches against tier5. Also ropz, mouz took him straight from fpl/fplc.
2021-11-29 03:30
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#41
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Latvia emzijs
it was niko that brought him, not faze, they took ropz from fpl because he was insane there, kyojin was literally noone, he wasnt even in fpl
2021-11-29 12:17
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And? Don't see any difference, faze had to agree to that anyway so it doesn't matter if niko brought him or faze.
2021-11-29 13:59
Bymas was also trash in his first year in mouz so my comment is still valid
2021-11-29 13:10
6 replies
It isn't cuz u asked for a player who was dumped straight to T1 without having any real experience, not for a talented player who's doing great after that.
2021-11-29 14:01
5 replies
????? How would you know Kyojin isnt gonna become solid tier 1 player in 2 years? Its just your toxic speculations. Dont try to argue with me. Boomas was dogshit in his first year, same with Kyojin (both of them had IN THEIR FIRST YEAR ON PRO SCENE) great moments on a bunch of maps, but needed/need to work on their consistency
2021-11-29 15:09
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First of all, I'm not even discussing with you about kyojin or bymas, u asked for at least one player who was brought straight to TIer1 from nowhere and I did that XDDD Idk, maybe u are blind or u are just replying to a wrong person. U are the only toxic here. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/19015/bym.. Bymas wasn't dogshit, 1.0 rating/0.87 impact in 200 maps when u are fucking noname and u have to play against top teams in same team with niko who brought u there (I bet he had a lot of pressure because of that) is pretty good. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/19672/kyo.. Bymas in first year was way better than kjoyin.
2021-11-29 15:27
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ok still it doesnt mean that Kyojin has no potential
2021-11-29 15:34
2 replies
Where did I say he doesn't?
2021-11-29 15:49
1 reply
you dont, but i thought you mean it i think i misunderstood you
2021-11-29 16:10
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
kyojin to team liquid valorant roster. joining nivera
2021-11-29 00:23
4 replies
just no
2021-11-29 00:30
Nivera was quite good actually
2021-11-29 01:47
I truly believe Kyojin would be insane in valorant.
2021-11-29 03:29
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youtu.be/Cb6uJl_ObnY?t=101 don't know if he'd switch
2021-11-29 13:05
Shox is most likely not going to be with Liquid since NAF has just re-signed until 2024. Still he should be a good pickup for any team looking for veterans with good experience. Kyojin honestly has looked better in BLAST Fall Finals and hopefully, teams pick up this kid with good potential. But he's still got a lot to learn from veterans....Let's see... Fingers crossed
2021-11-29 00:24
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kennyS Kyojin shox bodyy (IGL) hAdji Coach: XTQZZZ what about this team?
2021-11-29 00:38
3 replies
Could be okay, but I honestly would be wary of putting too many strong personalities in one team. (KennyS, Shox and IGL) Also, KennyS hasn't shown any signs of recovery and hunger (IEM Winter could be an opportunity for him). Apart from that, i don't follow the French scene that much so can't really comment on other players. XTQZZZ is of course great!
2021-11-29 00:57
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Yeah this team should get a lot of discipline if it ever happened. Basically a key to success is to find a great organisation with psychologists etc
2021-11-29 01:06
KennyS, body, and shox have played on g2 together iirc and hadji and kyojin and nice young players with great potential
2021-11-29 03:17
trash go retire
2021-11-29 00:24
2 replies
They win strongest navi map lul, stfu
2021-11-29 01:49
1 reply
+1
2021-11-29 15:19
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Kazakhstan KraljBrk
people forget misutaa was ass at the beginning too. Kyojin has gradually gotten better throughout the major to even today
2021-11-29 00:24
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true i think next year he can reach 0.9 rating, what a player!!!!
2021-11-29 00:26
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He had some great performances on a bunch of maps against best teams so he proved he can be insane if he only could work on his consistency over time
2021-11-29 00:32
I think Shox can join tier 2 teams to help young and inexperienced players learn and grow and I think Kyojin can still play in CS but definitely not top 10 team material.
2021-11-29 00:41
3 replies
Maybe Vitality academy?
2021-11-29 01:07
2 replies
I didn't even know that was a thing but if so then yes. Flamie is already in an academy team on Navi.
2021-11-29 01:31
1 reply
Its not a thing, but it could be very important for French scene. There is no youngsters atm on French scene
2021-11-29 13:06
kyojin to LDLC Hadji Keoz Maka Kyojin NBK pretty good team for 20/30 hltv top
2021-11-29 01:38
4 replies
Whos igl then isn't lambert igl?
2021-11-29 01:40
3 replies
maybe nbk can igl idk
2021-11-29 02:17
2 replies
There is no way NBK wants to go back He is out of "fuel" to compete
2021-11-29 13:04
Maka is igling.
2021-11-29 14:21
both should go to ldlc with maka hadji and keoz, pretty solid tier 2
2021-11-29 01:41
2 replies
Igl?
2021-11-29 13:03
1 reply
shox
2021-11-29 16:31
G2 - 2 French Vita - 3 French Liquid - 1 French I'm sad French CS is dying a lil bit (ZywOo still a god who brought a lot french cs) Same for Swedish but they don't have a ZywOo or a s1mple Happy for CIS CS, just incredible So, gl for shox/Kyojin (Kyojin didn't get enough time)
2021-11-29 01:47
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True
2021-11-29 13:03
#34
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Asia Acasthe
Shox should just retire tbh
2021-11-29 03:08
Kyojin to FPL-C
2021-11-29 03:12
what ever happened to kioshima?
2021-11-29 03:23
3 replies
gambling on twitch
2021-11-29 12:23
He went for money
2021-11-29 13:01
was playing casino for the past few months, but rn LFT in valarant
2021-11-29 13:07
lol they got carried to all those finals, shox is a t1 player just not good enough for a team trying to be top 1, kyojin is a bot who will go back to fpl
2021-11-29 12:18
Ideal scenario: shox retires and Kyojin goes to a Tier 2 team. Even better: Vita have a talent team à la Navi Junior or Young Ninjas, Kyojin plays there, shox is the coach and XTQZZZ is manager.
2021-11-29 13:07
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shox coach never But he could try to be a leader
2021-11-29 13:31
kyojin is gonna be a streamer like docc IMO
2021-11-29 13:07
3 replies
That's actually funny because D0cC is actually very talented
2021-11-29 13:30
2 replies
yep but I mean kyojin is a bot in T1 but a headshot machine, so thats still good content
2021-11-29 14:09
1 reply
People thought ScreaM is just a headshot machine and nothing besides that, but he developed to a great teammate as well, made it to top 10 players of the year in 2013 and 2016. Kyojin is very talented and deserves to play in tier 2/3 team
2021-11-29 15:13
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Croatia nAmeless69
NBK shox kennyS hAdji bodyy Would be insane team
2021-11-29 13:07
3 replies
True
2021-11-29 13:29
#67
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Canada go1x1n00b
kyojin
2021-11-29 14:07
insane tier-3 team
2021-11-29 15:43
Kyojin has been getting a lot of hate but tbh he improved a lot and is a very good riffler individually.
2021-11-29 13:35
Kyojin can go back to fpl-c
2021-11-29 13:36
kyojin no future, shox maybe USA
2021-11-29 14:01
If Vitality can -zywoo then no need to kick anyone, they can be solid t3 team and make pinacle series playoffs
2021-11-29 14:04
Kyojin is going to Valorant, frenchies don't have the grindset
2021-11-29 15:01
Now you are bunch of haters on a player who never played on a pro scene before Vitality. I hope he is gonna join new team soon and proves to you that you dont know shit
2021-11-29 15:16
Either modeling or streaming that‘s kyo‘s future
2021-11-29 15:19
Good bye shox, if you go to Liquid i will surely support this Liquid roster..there is already so many likable people like Naf the Naffer or Elige. LETS GO LIQUID
2021-11-29 15:37
Kyojin joins the group of ruined talents with no place to go because they got thrown into t1 too early, like jackinho, lnz, ztr and soon lucky.
2021-11-29 15:37
1 reply
lets try to make a team with ruined talents
2021-11-29 18:59
Tier2 french team
2021-11-29 15:39
Hope they find new teams
2021-11-29 15:40
#97
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Spain 1sleep23
french magdonald
2021-11-29 18:59
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