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Failed Eras
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United States IdolaMochi 
Rank those teams by who was the closest to establishing an Era Team LDLC / EnvyUs (2014-2015) Fnatic w dennis (2015-2016) Luminosity / SK (2016) FaZe Clan (2017 - 2018) Team Liquid (2019)
2021-11-29 18:13
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1. Liquid 2. SK/LG 3. Fnatic 4. LDLC 5. FaZe
2021-11-29 18:14
11 replies
I would change Liquid for SK/LG, FalleN and co won two majors and the following year (2017) closed with 8 titles and being the top 1 team in the world. Btw we can easily consider that SK/LG had an era
2021-11-29 18:18
10 replies
yeah you're right, although Liquid I believe were the biggest fail. they just came off a grand slam win and then they faded out very quickly
2021-11-29 18:31
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I remember, they got clapped by astralis twice and it just made them cave, they never recovered :(. Shame because they were so snappy and dominating during their high time. Shame as they where enjoyable to watch, even against teams I supported.
2021-11-30 11:27
idk about that sk/lg won 2 majors and an epl+dh austin(doesnt count, basically a summit win but worse). so just 3 events in like 4 months, not that impressive. sk 2017>sk/lg, they won more events despite not winning the major, and had sustained dominance in 2017, although i still dont think they have an era
2021-11-30 01:36
7 replies
Dunno bout that we should at least take a look at a year and a half to critisize,time shouldnt be restricted in case of a possible era
2021-11-30 10:09
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wtf, looking at a year and a half is all situational depending on the era. like astralis for example, that could be the case since their era was around a year long then they took a break, but even then, that's cutting it close here's why lg/sk dont have an era spanning 2016-17 1. 9 month stretch no tourney win between july 2016 and april 2017 2. 3-4 diff players outside of the 4 core of taco, fallen, cold, and fer -> fnx, fox, boltz, felps 3. 3 big events won in their lg/sk "era" in 2016(both majors+epl) then nothing else sk "era" in 2017 won like 6 big events but all spread out, cologne, sydney, epicenter, epl, etc. but no major and they were the consensus best team in 2017, but they were not dominant enough for an era as no major, but they were really good for a long time, like astralis 2019-2021
2021-11-30 20:37
if sk won the pgl major in 2017 they would have the era because that woulda been 6 tourneys in a row and the major Summit Sydney top 4 EPL DH Summer ECS Cologne PGL Krakow Epicenter Copenhagen EPL All in 1 year.
2021-11-30 21:58
4 replies
idk where you got in a row, top 4 at epl does not mean win in a row summit and copenhagen were not big/top tier events but i dont disagree that if they won major, they had that era
2021-11-30 22:30
3 replies
ok who car stop nitpicking still would have been an era
2021-11-30 22:30
2 replies
i said that in my last sentence. if they won krakow, it would've been era
2021-11-30 22:32
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ik
2021-11-30 22:32
#2
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Latvia emzijs
olofmeister ruined LDLC's era
2021-11-29 18:14
1 reply
flair :))))
2021-11-29 18:15
actually SK had an era
2021-11-29 18:15
19 replies
#9
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United States IdolaMochi
The problem with SK is that they won 4 Tournaments in 2016 and then went 9 Months without winning anything, they made it up by winning alot in 2017 but taking a 9 Month break puts an end to your chance of an era
2021-11-29 18:17
18 replies
58 weeks at #1 back to back majors 12 big tournaments won
2021-11-29 18:24
12 replies
#34
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United States IdolaMochi
12 Big Tournaments not consecutevly
2021-11-29 18:26
1 reply
Even astralis never won more than 4 big tournaments in a row so idk, sk were undisputed #1 the for a long time
2021-11-30 11:34
#35
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United States IdolaMochi
hltv.org/stats/events?startDate=2016-01-.. you tell me if that looks like an Era
2021-11-29 18:28
9 replies
They changed and dictated the meta at the time, thats what makes a era, they were the team everyone watched to improve.
2021-11-29 22:48
7 replies
#89
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England julz!
flag
2021-11-29 23:17
5 replies
Is he wrong tho
2021-11-30 01:54
4 replies
yes. only one(maybe 2 if you count nip's early run) team(s) has had a true era in CS and that team is astralis. An era is more than just being the team to beat, it's about being the most dominant team in the scene. if you take away the 2 major wins LG/SK's 2016 looks terrible with only one other big event win. Their 2017 looks a lot better, but if all it takes to have an era is 6 tournament wins in a year than both liquid and fnatic would've had eras themselves. 2 isolated major wins and a string of big events doesn't mean a team has a era. Also that same logic could be used for both Liquid's summer run and Fnatic's 2015 to early 2016 run. Both teams changed the meta and every team was trying their hardest to topple them.
2021-11-30 02:38
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I meant the meta part, them having an era is subjective. But if you consider they were the team everyone watched to improve for like 2 whole years (even when they weren't winning trophies), I don't think calling it the SK era is too absurd.
2021-11-30 16:52
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By the way I'm not discounting SK/LG's 2016/17, I still think there are one of the best teams to ever play CS:GO. I just don't think they had an era.
2021-11-30 20:52
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understandable
2021-12-01 14:41
flag
2021-11-30 00:31
+1
2021-11-30 00:16
major + trophies = era
2021-11-29 23:13
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#88
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United States IdolaMochi
So a what so called "era" where they dont win tournaments for 9 Months sounds like a team that deserves to be compared to Astralis NiP and Fnatic ?
2021-11-29 23:16
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yes
2021-11-29 23:18
he is a gamb0t fan, when gamb0t won 3 irrelevant tournamnets in the online era everybody was making threads with " Gamb0t will have a bigger era than Astralis" well that aged like a milk
2021-11-30 00:14
so astralis in late 2019 had an era? astralis 2016-17 had an era?
2021-11-30 01:37
sk/lg had an era, change my mind
2021-11-29 18:16
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#90
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England julz!
flag
2021-11-29 23:17
flag
2021-11-30 00:31
change your flag first, then the answer will come itself
2021-11-30 00:56
3 tournaments won out of 6 in a 3 month stretch
2021-11-30 01:38
#8
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Poland s1mp_le
imo 2017 VP could have their own era, they choked final major vs Astralis and in PGL 2017 major krakow they should won aswell
2021-11-29 18:17
3 replies
tbh snax failing ACE Clutch lost them the major, instead of hiding he was standing on headshot with a fucking TEC-9
2021-11-29 18:18
They were much further from an era than any of these teams
2021-11-29 18:19
1 reply
#18
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Poland s1mp_le
i just added another team to the list
2021-11-29 18:19
OMEGALUL kkkkk
2021-11-29 18:25
#12
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Canada loldougie
1. Na'Vi (soon) 2. Liquid Rest are debatable.
2021-11-29 18:18
2 replies
delusional
2021-11-30 00:32
#263
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Liquid, sure. NaVi I doubt.
2021-12-05 07:49
Grandslam = era TL Astralis Now Navi.
2021-11-29 18:18
29 replies
tl grand slam was a fluke not winning anything -> grand slam -> not winning anything compare to: -Astralis: numerous tournaments won -> grand slam -> making history as the best of all fucking time -Na'Vi: numerous tournaments won -> grand slam -> and time will show
2021-11-29 18:20
26 replies
You can't win a grandslam without winning anything lol You have to win big 5 or 6 tournaments in a row in order to achieve a grandslam.
2021-11-29 18:22
15 replies
4 and not in a row, but TL did in a row.
2021-11-29 18:23
14 replies
and how does that make Liquid gs a fluke? Even if they didn't have success before and after their gs, it's still not a fluke as they won it in a ROW, something that no one else has done yet. the only thing liquid didn't fully establish is an era.
2021-11-29 22:20
13 replies
You need at least a major for an era not even current Na Vi is considered having an era TL def did not have an era bro
2021-11-30 10:16
8 replies
NiP didn't win a Major during their era thoe
2021-11-30 10:34
6 replies
i dont know primitive cs back then NIP era is debatable there was no real competition
2021-11-30 10:36
NiP did
2021-11-30 11:37
4 replies
They won a Major long after their era was over
2021-11-30 11:37
3 replies
It's not, their era basically ended after winning that major.
2021-11-30 11:38
2 replies
Their era was from 2012/08/6 to 2013/10/12
2021-11-30 11:39
What?
2021-11-30 19:46
Im only talking about how Liquid Grand slam (not eras) is not a fluke. I agree that Liquid didnt have an era without a major win.
2021-11-30 19:40
5 S-Tier tournaments and no major compare to Na Vi’s 5 S Tier tournaments and a major,you do the rest of the math
2021-11-30 10:18
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I wasnt comparing, i asked how Liquid's GS only was a fluke.
2021-11-30 19:37
2 replies
It wasn't he's literally baiting you. If someone wants to seriously argue that five IEM/DHM events in a row (with a blast) is a big fluke you have to just let them win the argument. It's such a stupid take it's self-evident.
2021-11-30 19:50
1 reply
aight thx for that info.
2021-11-30 22:26
#43
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Czech Republic Ventraks
and online grandslam counts?
2021-11-29 18:37
3 replies
Navi won online and lan events to win grandslam. So technically navi >astraliss
2021-11-29 19:14
Well if they had failed miserably on Lan I'd say no but they seem to not care where an event is played
2021-11-30 11:40
#243
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United States Goldfram
+1, mf think winning 3 Lans in the span of nearly 2 years is an ERA??? LAMFOOOO. maybe navi can create an era right now, but no they simply don't have one
2021-11-30 22:37
The only reason they didnt win anything before was because astralis was winning everything. Liquid was the undisputed number 2 at the time. No teams were even close to them.
2021-11-29 18:42
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#49
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United States IdolaMochi
Astralis was beating everyone Liquid was beating everyone except NRG and Astralis Navi was a strong team but Liquid was their kryptonite (Almost 2 years without a win against them)
2021-11-29 18:44
#59
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England 1sleep23
undisputed number 2 is synonym with no era though
2021-11-29 18:56
liquid was second place in almost every tournament during 2018, even with TACO they were a fantastic team. This was not a team that came out of nowhere, nor had it done nothing before
2021-11-30 02:57
#227
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Czech Republic KREDIT31
grandslam can't be fluke lol
2021-11-30 21:41
#252
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Scotland Azaqa
Thats how eras work.... you cant fluke a grand slam they won like fking 7 international LANs in a row... It was shortest era but it was an era
2021-12-01 09:02
#160
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Sweden Kahbor4L
Fnatic wouldve had 2 grandslams if they existed back when fnatic were good i think
2021-11-30 02:09
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Fnatic and NIP would yes.
2021-11-30 02:30
astralis 2017 failed too
2021-11-29 18:18
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#19
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United States IdolaMochi
They did but their failure is bigger than any of those teams in my opinion that's why I didn't put them in the list
2021-11-29 18:19
Was liquid really failed tho or only considered it because they didn’t win the major
2021-11-29 18:18
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#22
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United States IdolaMochi
I think that It should be considered as a failure, they dissapeared after the summer break leaving Fnatic , Astralis , Evill Genuises and mousesports winning everything
2021-11-29 18:20
2 replies
EG HAD AN ERA BatChest
2021-11-29 18:25
2019 was for sure the year for NA CS tho. Boston major was good and all but was in 2018.
2021-11-29 18:25
Liquid had the number 2 era, they were the only contenders behind astralis for more than a year. If it wasnt for astralis, liquid would have won a major at least.
2021-11-29 18:44
7 replies
Still kind of nuts to think about how they won the grand slam in 60 days. Smashed astralis record and Navi is still not even close to it.
2021-11-29 18:51
6 replies
#57
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United States IdolaMochi
The most impressive record is the 21 B03's won in a row, the record is 25 by NiP
2021-11-29 18:53
5 replies
Liquid won 21 in a row?
2021-11-29 20:38
4 replies
#67
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United States IdolaMochi
Yea insane right
2021-11-29 22:10
3 replies
Indeed NIPs streak was when CSGO first came out right
2021-11-29 22:12
2 replies
#73
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United States IdolaMochi
NiP streak was literraly from day 1 of cs go
2021-11-29 22:20
1 reply
Yeah and liquid was during when there were several teams that were capable of winning
2021-11-29 22:40
2 majors, the most dominant team of 2017. In my book, SK/LG had an era
2021-11-29 18:19
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#23
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United States IdolaMochi
They have the achievements but they also have a 9 months of not winning big tournaments after the 2nd Major
2021-11-29 18:21
The problem is like #9 is saying, LG/SK had 2 nonconsecutive periods where they were the best.
2021-11-29 18:21
#91
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England julz!
flag
2021-11-29 23:18
6 replies
Brittish cs era when?
2021-11-29 23:39
5 replies
#119
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England julz!
couldnt give a fuck im just glad im not a delusional bot
2021-11-30 00:33
2 replies
"couldnt give a fuck" Only those who have an irrelevant scene in csgo would say this
2021-11-30 20:42
1 reply
#246
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England julz!
my life would be pretty fucking shit if i let the country i was unwillingly born in dictate how happy i was
2021-11-30 23:50
#158
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Canada loldougie
LOL GOTEM, look how angry he got
2021-11-30 02:01
1 reply
#247
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England julz!
angry?
2021-11-30 23:51
#29
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Brazil hugoooo
Literally every analyst say LG/SK had an era. Literally 90% of HLTV dumb users says they didn't.
2021-11-29 18:25
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#120
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England julz!
flag
2021-11-30 00:33
flag
2021-11-30 00:55
not true + flag
2021-12-01 00:11
LG / SK have 2 majors and won 11 championships. Not sure, but I think you met CS:GO 1 month ago... omegalul
2021-11-29 18:25
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#33
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United States IdolaMochi
Not consecutevly
2021-11-29 18:26
15 replies
Literally every analyst say LG/SK had an era. Literally 90% of HLTV dumb users says they didn't.
2021-11-29 18:30
14 replies
0/8 they werent even top 1 at start of 2017 didnt do anything until summer 2017 was year of 3 teams sk faze and astralis 2016 was mixed year nearly every team won an event Brazil team didnt do shit in 2016 besides 2 majors
2021-11-29 23:55
11 replies
astralis in 2017 was a joke
2021-11-30 00:24
3 replies
wtf, they beat SK at major and they won both eleague atlanta and iem katowice, in the back half they were definitely not in their best form, but at the beginning they were good
2021-11-30 01:41
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they beat SK only because they always prepare for one team, which is favourite at the time, after that they couldn't beat fucking tier 2 gambit
2021-11-30 15:13
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yea t2 gambit led by hobbit and adren, both extremely hot CIS riflers at the time, and zeus, the best CIS igl of all time i agree that astralis sucked back half of 2017 tho, didnt disagree
2021-11-30 20:42
"didnt do shit in 2016 besides 2 MAJORS" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkll
2021-11-30 00:45
3 replies
plz find another big tournament win aside from EPL and 2 majors in 2016
2021-11-30 01:41
2 replies
they were 1 round away from winnig ECS and they also should have won eleague as it was before summer break, when they had their best form, but eleague kicked them for no reason and only after break they got weaker, but still consistently made top2-top4
2021-11-30 15:25
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kicked them bc they swapped orgs 1 round from winning ecs is not the same as winning it. remember g2 were 1 round away from winning epl and also liquid were 1 round away from denying lg columbus after the break they got weaker but consistently made top 2 and top4(sounds like liquid 2019, and do they have an era, no. wow)
2021-11-30 20:43
#135
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Brazil Moglao
"they werent even top 1 at start of 2017 didnt do anything until summer", the same can be said about Astralis in 2018, so...
2021-11-30 01:20
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#210
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Brazil Moglao
2021-11-30 17:06
Flag
2021-11-30 00:34
#92
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England julz!
flag
2021-11-29 23:18
1. FaZe 17-18 rest irrelevant
2021-11-29 18:25
#38
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Czech Republic Ventraks
Natus Vincere (2021)
2021-11-29 18:31
1 reply
Copium
2021-11-29 22:43
Sebastian Vettel in Ferrari 2015-2020
2021-11-29 18:34
1 reply
They only had a realistic chance in 17/18
2021-11-29 18:58
FaZe almost had an era, 1 round from winning major, and 1 win away from being the first grand slam winners( if they won katowice which was 1 round away) And Faze choking to c9 just broke them and they were never the same
2021-11-29 18:35
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#42
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United States IdolaMochi
They lost 3 Big Finals against 3 Huge Underdogs, Cloud9 / NiP / Fnatic
2021-11-29 18:36
1 reply
oh yea the oakland one also hurts, if they win the major and 1 of oakland/katowice, they would have major and grand slam, and therefore a good era
2021-11-29 18:40
sk and liquid both had era
2021-11-29 18:38
6 replies
#46
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United States IdolaMochi
If Liquid had an era then surely 2016 Fnatic with dennis also had one
2021-11-29 18:42
5 replies
i would agree but i wasn't watching csgo at the time
2021-11-29 18:45
1 reply
#52
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United States IdolaMochi
similar case won everything until the Major
2021-11-29 18:46
Could be, but liquid was the undisputed number 2 for more than a year behind astralis. Nobody could stop them except for astralis and once they went away, liquid won everything. With astralis, they would have won at least a major.
2021-11-29 18:46
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#53
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United States IdolaMochi
The thing is that 2018 Liquid had TACO so do we consider them to be the same team ?
2021-11-29 18:47
i don't even think it's that astralis was the undisputed #1 that stopped liquid in 2018, they had a few bad losses at the start of the astralis era but they kept improving and eventually made astralis sweat to beat them and navi showed that astralis 2018 can crack. but unless ur #1, u really dont have the basis to start a true era. liquid had the base when it comes to the teams core and results steadily looking better, but their dominance started at sydney and ended at berlin
2021-11-30 00:46
BIG and all the others while the world went crazy
2021-11-29 18:47
I think yes but also maybe no
2021-11-29 18:52
#64
torzsi | 
Hungary anw_
2019 Mousesports with Woxic and Karrigan. Woxic ranked #2 AWPer in the world Mouz ranked #2 in the world and knocked out #1 (Astralis) last time they met Then +Bymas as sixth player Woxic throws ChrisJ washed Karrigan goes back to FaZe Roster dies I cri
2021-11-29 20:58
2 replies
when was woxic #2 AWP in world wtf
2021-11-30 01:44
1 reply
Right before ESL when ChrisJ was entry’ing, it was 1. dev1ce, 2. Woxic, 3. s1mple. Hard to believe but crazy to watch, then Bymas came along…
2021-11-30 01:58
#65
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Argentina Willy_CV
navi era (2021 (5months) )
2021-11-29 20:58
1 reply
#225
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Argentina tamfg
copium
2021-11-30 21:01
Eternal Fire 2021 :(
2021-11-29 21:00
how is SK a failed era
2021-11-29 22:10
NaVi (2021)
2021-11-29 22:10
1 reply
+1
2021-11-29 22:44
#71
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Sk had an era +1 for the others
2021-11-29 22:15
#72
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Very good ones to add. I would include Gambit 2021 to the list.
2021-11-29 22:19
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#81
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United States IdolaMochi
If I add Gambit 2021 then I would also have to add Astralis 2019 and Astralis 2017
2021-11-29 22:56
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#82
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You don't really need to add 2019 Astralis though, as they had their era in 2018 but never went back into that form after Team Liquid. 2017 Astralis would work because they were a different roster but whether or not it was a "failed era" is down to opinion. At least with Gambit, they were on form to be the best team in the world and have a mini-era, I guess.
2021-11-29 23:05
Just think about how painful it was for liquid with s1mple to lose a major from 15-6 on both maps .-.
2021-11-29 22:40
SK had an era, Thread reported.
2021-11-29 22:51
2 replies
Everything checks
2021-11-29 23:05
1 reply
Everything checks out
2021-11-29 23:53
feelsbad for Liquid man Record Intel Grand Slam, which led to change in rules on how to win it Was the undisputed 2nd best team in the world, only ever losing to Astralis and NRG (from time to time) for longer than a year They went on a 21 BO3 win strike (if I remember correctly), nearing NiP's record of 25 BO3 Won a couple of tournaments after the IGS win But that Vertigo pick at Berlin destroyed them :(
2021-11-29 23:07
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#85
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United States IdolaMochi
nah the Vertigo pick didn't destroy them, the summer break did
2021-11-29 23:10
FaZe at least top2
2021-11-29 23:19
#95
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Argentina cheapdeed
SK era is just like gambit online era (5 months) difference is SK at least got 2 majors
2021-11-29 23:26
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#96
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United States IdolaMochi
a 3 Tournaments Era, people never stop to amaze me
2021-11-29 23:27
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#97
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Argentina cheapdeed
stfu im saying sk failed at making their era holy shit
2021-11-29 23:32
faze wasnt even close to an era, neither was liquid even tho they had a good run in the fist half of the year if it wasnt for astralis, liquid most likely would have had an era
2021-11-29 23:35
Luminosity / SK (2016) HAHAHAHAH 2 CONSECUTIVE MAJORS IN 2016 AND 8 BIG TITLES IN 2017.
2021-11-29 23:39
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2016 - 15 big tournaments took part, 2 majors and 2 titles won 2017 - many titles, but not even top2 at both majors Sorry, if you want era, you have to win major and all titles, like NaVi and Astralis did
2021-11-29 23:57
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OK, now you are the person who decides what is an era and what is not an era. Thanks for explaining.
2021-11-30 00:30
What world do you live in where cs summit and a dreamhack open counts as a tier 1 tourney They won 3 tournaments in 2016 and didnt win for months after that By your logic the astralis era started in 2016 after ecs finals
2021-11-30 01:32
flag and flair check out two separate "eras" both of which i dont count because 1. roster change 2. 9 month period with no tournament win with core 2016 LG/SK won 3 big tournaments 2017 SK won a lot of titles, but didn't win the major and they even swapped felps for boltz, if 2017 SK counts then 2019 liquid counts too
2021-11-30 01:46
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So by your logic can we say Na Vi has an era if they win blast global? I mean in my opinion we at least need a year and a half to consider an era and see how consistent that team is cus without 2 majors i wouldnt call that period an era
2021-11-30 10:28
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yea, navi has an era with blast global dh spring run(maybe counts in your era maybe not as navi went to epic league cis rmr and blast spring and didnt get 1st at either) but after that starladder cis rmr in july iem cologne LAN in july(dropped 3 maps in 4 bo3s and a bo5) epl s14 in september iem fall cis rmr in october(2nd place, but grand final didnt count, if navi gave it their all they probably win) pgl major LAN(without dropping a map) blast fall finals LAN (dropped 2 maps in 4 bo3s) 3 LANs, an epl online, should've been 2 cis rmr wins, and if they win blast global, then they would be dominant for 6+ months(beginning of july to end of december) and even astralis in 2018 couldn't win major without dropping map(liquid), shows how dominant they are. historic nuke streak and have only dropped 5 maps on LAN so far without 2 majors, not an era? doesn't make sense to me, major is honestly just another big tournament just like cologne/katowice/epl/blast finals, it's just the name value and valve sponsor boosting it. navi's dominance outweighs this 2 major criteria esp with a cologne, epl, and blast final win
2021-11-30 20:41
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So Navi online tournaments are a era but SK full lan isnt? xaxaxa delusional Also the major SK won were the first 1M prizepool majors, at the time it was pretty impressive.
2021-11-30 22:00
2 replies
the prize pool means nothing, the level of teams is still the exact same navi online won 3 LANs, LG/SK also won 3 LANs but remember that navi also won the first 2M prizepool if you want to make that argument also without dropping a map combined with a blast global+rmr+epl win, they have a better say at an era than both 2017 SK and LG/SK 2016
2021-11-30 22:31
1 reply
How sk won just 3 events?
2021-12-01 00:00
Fnatic with dennis were an era They won every consecutive event until olof injury
2021-11-29 23:51
1 reply
then liquid 2019 is also era
2021-11-30 01:46
2 consecutive majors and several big events in 2016/2017, ok LG/SK didn't have a Era. KEKW
2021-11-29 23:56
2 replies
İf we are looking into 2 years yes but if we look 2106-2017 seperately definitely no
2021-11-30 10:29
1 reply
why would we look into the year separately?
2021-11-30 15:34
Ence era
2021-11-29 23:58
1 reply
xd
2021-11-30 10:34
#107
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Denmark thekr4k3n
The thing is NaVi right now is unstoppable, no one is really close to beat them. Back on the days LG/SK were good it was not even that competitive as it is right now, just hope they don't overcome our era.
2021-11-30 00:04
#110
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Poland ethereal0
gambit 2017
2021-11-30 00:21
1 reply
Wtf? No one have even said they had era
2021-11-30 22:43
Eras: Astralis 2018 - 2019 (55% won, 13 big titles in 2 years + Intel Grand Slam) ibb.co/4M1LZsq NaVi 2021 (73% won, 8 big titles + Intel Grand Slam) ibb.co/mSMPGzX Fnatic 2015 (45% won, 9 big titles) ibb.co/1R8vJkJ No Eras: SK / Luminosity 2016 - 2017 (29% won, 8 big titles in 2 years) ibb.co/vXWTnsg
2021-11-30 00:25
10 replies
Stop lying bro, lg/sk 16 and 17 won 10 big titles plus 2 majors
2021-11-30 00:43
8 replies
Look at the screen shots, are you blind? Qualification groups are not titles, lol. Moreover, they lost much more, then won. And from ESL Cologne 2016 to ESL Cologne 2017 how many titles they won? It the middle of your "Era" :)
2021-11-30 00:50
6 replies
screen shots? HAHAHAHAHAH, stop talking shit bro, it's embarrassing.
2021-11-30 00:55
1 reply
LMAO, stop baiting, you can clearly see the links
2021-11-30 01:47
Blast groups are not titles either Na Vi has 7 not 8
2021-11-30 10:32
1 reply
Blast groups are counted as tier1 event and there are prize money. Qualification groups have no prize money, it's only qualification
2021-11-30 13:55
navi online tournaments dont count.
2021-11-30 21:51
1 reply
Nice try, but if online dont count, then NaVi era already for 2 years. Since nobody won NaVI on lan since February 2020 :)
2021-12-02 08:45
Cs summit and a dreamhack open arent big titles
2021-11-30 01:33
#203
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
fnatic era starts from 2014 and ends in 2016 liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tour.. from august 2014-march 2017(20 months) they won 16 S tier events.
2021-11-30 14:04
SS (Space Soldiers) era 👀
2021-11-30 00:27
#114
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South America XMTfml
EG omega ultra bast 2 days Era
2021-11-30 00:29
#122
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Europe Pts
Luminosity/SK at their prime >>>> Asstralis at theirs
2021-11-30 00:34
Liquid????????? xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2021-11-30 00:35
2 replies
More of an era than sk
2021-11-30 01:34
1 reply
flag and flair. you're probably a murica weeb.
2021-11-30 12:32
liquid and faze tie for the biggest fail at eras id put ldlc and dennis fnatic together below them lg/sk had a debatable era imo, i would say thats just down to who you talk to
2021-11-30 00:36
2 replies
Faze could’ve had an era if they didn’t choke to clown9
2021-11-30 01:35
1 reply
honestly if they made up for the major choke by winning katowice and the first grand slam, they couldve had an era but alas it wasnt meant to be
2021-11-30 01:38
liquid 1st
2021-11-30 00:39
LG/SK = 2016 and 2017, so was an Era.
2021-11-30 00:48
6 replies
Had a 9 month break between tournament wins
2021-11-30 01:34
5 replies
They won 3 tournament's in 2016 and 8 in 2017. Had less tournament's than today. Was an era.
2021-11-30 02:16
4 replies
6 in 2017 Damn i cant believe the astralis era started in 2016 based on that logic
2021-11-30 02:49
28 tier 1 tournaments in 2015 15 in 2016 still only 20 percent of tournaments in a year 16 in 2017 16 in 2018 16 in 2019 9 in 2020 12 to end the year in 2021 So please tell me again how liquid, navi, and astralis had more tournaments in their years Edit maybe add some more to this year for cis and eu rmrs not sure if my list included them
2021-11-30 03:10
2 replies
Well, but I don't agree with the Author xD. Fnatic Era happened. LDLC too. I just doesn't agree with Liquid and Faze Eras because they doesn't win a major.
2021-11-30 04:55
1 reply
Ldlc didnt win anywhere near enough tournaments for an era
2021-11-30 05:15
I totally agree with the SK/Luminosity, the 2 majors won in a row are clearly 2 fluke runs. Moreover c016zera has aaaalways been bad player, he just fluke 2x best player (bad team, bad player, bad bad). And if you ask me about Fallen, fer and fnx making it to the top 20 in 2016? Well, this was also not deserved at all. Fluke flukers fluckery.
2021-11-30 00:55
It's honestly tough to give an answer other than Team Liquid. Winning the Grand Slam so quickly, have so much talent and firepower, and then basically just sputtering out into mediocrity for quite some time. They had everything they need to claim a dynasty except a Major, and then failed to achieve it. And basically just went quiet.
2021-11-30 01:35
I wouldn't say Fnatic with Dennis was really a fail, they did really well and were really dominant it just in the grand scheme was a bit short-lived I'd say they were pretty good but probs just one of the least famous eras.
2021-11-30 01:45
NAVI with God-tier Zeus and Edward.
2021-11-30 01:46
Like it or not sk/lg had an era
2021-11-30 02:09
8 replies
9 tournaments over the course of 2 years with 3 different rosters with a 9 month break between their 2016 and 2017 wins but sure totally an era
2021-11-30 03:08
7 replies
Depends if we consider 2 years an era then by that Logic Astralis is the only one with era cus they did everything in 1 year
2021-11-30 10:42
6 replies
Two years is more than fine being an era but you cant take 9 months between wins and expect people to ignore it
2021-11-30 11:24
5 replies
What if they won a major in 2017 then it would be en era for sure? even if theres 9 month gap?
2021-11-30 11:25
4 replies
9 months is way too fucking much Even like 5 would be too much imo And this is just me but as far as i am concerned an era should only be helded by a single 5 man team Between all 3 of the successful lumi/sk rosters they each won only 3 tier 1 tourneys
2021-11-30 11:29
3 replies
Even 2 months will be too much, you era ends at that point, you can still be the best team in the world but your era has ended, that's the whole point of having that system of Eras
2021-11-30 11:30
2 replies
I feel like there has to be an amendum on two months because on the timing of the player break plus 1 tournament has the potential to be 2 months
2021-11-30 11:38
1 reply
I don't count the player break but if you do then yea
2021-11-30 11:39
Sk had an era tho?
2021-11-30 10:00
3 replies
Sk was rank 1 for over 50 weeks and in large stints so I think its an era
2021-11-30 10:06
2 replies
2021-11-30 11:39
1 reply
its all up to the definition in my opinion whenever sk played they would usualy win or get runner up and considering they'd be rank nr 1 for so long id give them an era
2021-11-30 12:15
#182
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Portugal Mixzzt
should have gambit there too
2021-11-30 10:34
sk was pretty good but a bit inconsistent over time. 6/8 being 8/8 an era. Faze was hella dominating but the choked and then a lot of issues with olof and roster. 7/8 cuz my heart. Liquid was on fire but astralis didnt want to let them had an era (at least a 1 year era) 6/8 cuz they took the bait of astralis. rest i wasnt that active on competitive cs to really rate.
2021-11-30 11:47
2 replies
FaZe lost all bo3 matches agaist SK on 2017, they are dont even close to a era, if FaZe is a failed era, then SK had a era for sure cuz they were way better.
2021-11-30 21:54
1 reply
both had failed eras, if u read i put 7/8 just cuz i liked them a lot, but objetively sk was close to an era than faze, just sk had like a gap with no results in the middle
2021-12-01 08:58
Vitality and 6 man era
2021-11-30 14:10
the last meme
2021-11-30 19:46
NaVi after +s1mple in 2016, cuz of Valve coach rule
2021-11-30 19:47
I'm starting to think maybe we put too much importance on majors. Liquid's Cologne win was as impressive a run as any major run I can remember. 11 / top 12 teams? If that doesn't matter to you because the tournament just wasn't called a major so doesn't count just realize it's not an argument based on their skill or the quality of their run that you are making. You are just assigning arbitrary importance to an event because Valve happened to bless it. I'm not married to the idea of Liquid 2019 being an 'era team' but when I see the arguments people use about dominance and number of tournaments it's just hard not to give it to them as well. Basically if you think na'vi on 11/30/2021 has an era then you absolutely must think Liquid did as well to be logically consistent.
2021-11-30 19:58
Liquid had an era. A short one, but an era. They dominated a season up until player break, CSGO is basically 2 6 month seasons a year and liquid owned one of them.
2021-11-30 21:06
sk/lumi had an era 2016-17
2021-11-30 21:46
How is FaZe on same list as SK, FaZe literally lost all bo3 encounters against SK they had on 2017
2021-11-30 21:53
Let's just keep FaZe away from this discussion, its hurts a lot
2021-11-30 21:53
1 reply
+1 lost all bo3 against SK on 2017 and somehow they are a failed era LOL
2021-11-30 21:54
SK/Luminosity had an era. Liquid definitely didn't have one. Faze had bigger potential (maybe a bit less individual skill than Liquid but individual skill is overrated, faze had real IGL and real awper) and they failed massively so ye my pick would be faze.
2021-11-30 22:30
Liquid didn't have an era. It simply was a time where augs and kriegs were op as fuck.
2021-11-30 22:46
#248
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Brazil Nicolito
Is this thread a bait or what? lol, 90% of users that say SK/LG didn't have an era signed in HLTV post 2018... incredible! Also, every analyst says they had and era, i thought this was a consensus but there are some weirdos/newfags who don't think so... maybe i'm being baited and missing some kind of a joke... whatever at least the opinion of the most relevant people confirms it, and I don't give a shit about newbies or baiters.
2021-11-30 23:59
2 replies
its just there’s a huge gap,thats the only questionable thing
2021-12-01 09:08
I dont see what signing post 2018 has anything to do with SK having an era or not. Results speaks for themselves and SK results are pathethic and can't be compared to Eras
2021-12-01 09:10
#256
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United States bomberNTC
liquid sk ldlc fnatic faze
2021-12-01 14:42
#257
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Pakistan Mikiq
dunno about SK and Lg being there, 2016 and 2017 were pretty good years from them. Sure no majors in 2017 but top tier wins like, IEM Sydney, ESL one Cologne, ESL Pro league s6, Blast CPH and Dreamhack Summer.
2021-12-01 14:46
Almost 60 weeks on top1 I think sk actually had a era
2021-12-01 14:49
1) G2 - they were in 3 lan finals vs navi and they shit the bed completely.. Even in 2020 they lost to big in finals.
2021-12-01 14:50
Faze could have established an era in 2018 if they won the major, Katowice, and the intel grand slam, but IMO not 2017. Liquid was close, but they had to win that major and maybe a couple more tournaments right after. One of the best runs any team has ever had though, as they proved only ONE team stood in their way of being the best team in the world for nearly two years, which just so happened to be Astralis, which was the most dominant team ever in CS:GO Fnatic w/Dennis was very dominant but short-lived. Not close to an era, tho. LDLC/Envy didn't win many tournaments, I thought (?). Correct me if I'm wrong. Any chance of one died with olof tho Luminosity/SK was probably the closest to an "era" but it was a weird one at that, since they had that whole 8-9 month streak of no tournament wins and roster changes, but they were a dominant team for sure.
2021-12-05 00:00
2 replies
The Envy chance for an era was actually just after the Fnatic one
2021-12-05 07:31
1 reply
Makes sense, they were good for sure. I can't remember how many titles they won though
2021-12-05 23:17
#264
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Russia arc_
Navi 2021
2021-12-05 08:04
Penta 2014
2021-12-05 08:09
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