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g2 dumb?
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Scotland EdgarAllenPoe 
why are they so desperate to change (ruin) their team after getting 2nd at a major? 2nd is a great result and they should be proud of it, just a few nervous situations cost them that nuke game but thy could have even won the entire event if they were more confident they are taking unnecessarily huge risks with monesy and aleksib when what they have already is working. Why not wait to see if the team can sustain great results like their major performance and if they cant then subsequently make changes? And IMO monesy is probably the worst player they can add (bad english, no real team experience, inflated stats, hugely bait oriented playstyle that will disrupt hunter and niko's space)
2021-11-30 05:01
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Georgia _p0int
yeah, but at least its interesting, hope they don't ruin g2
2021-11-30 05:02
#2
anjing | 
Indonesia Fazaa
Its a high risk high reward scenario
2021-11-30 05:03
6 replies
If you are already up a shit ton why continue to gamble more? That is how you lose everything
2021-11-30 05:04
4 replies
#5
anjing | 
Indonesia Fazaa
Idk man, dont ask me ask carlos
2021-11-30 05:04
carlos pro gambler so m0nesy confirmed they could just get him and his value will go to $3mil atleast and they make mega profit imo
2021-11-30 06:39
Navi was in 3 major finals, and they were constant #2 team before bit joined and they kicked flamie why would they do that? if they were constant #2 and attended major finals? to be #1 and a major winner G2 is doing the same
2021-11-30 21:01
#112
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Austria DR!FT
If you are already up a shit ton why continue to gamble more? That is how you lose everything
2021-12-01 13:32
gonna follow the path of ence man
2021-12-01 01:16
#4
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United States Jakkkk
They're still inconsistent and rely too much on Niko to pop off to win
2021-11-30 05:04
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#8
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Poland GOD999999
yes it is something like previously Navi. It was too much focused on s1mple. Now Navi can pop off in many directions. B1t and electronic can pop off, boombla and perfecto. And there is less weight on s1mple so he can shine and his carrying has more value. Same G2. If they reconstruct the core properly, then Niko can shine more and feel more freedom which should indicate more success.
2021-11-30 05:07
6 replies
Navi was bad with flamie, it made sense to replace him when they were struggling. The risk was justified in that context, but not in this one
2021-11-30 05:08
4 replies
it does, i woud take flamie over jackz nd amanek every dy
2021-11-30 20:38
3 replies
0/8 xd, don't compare bots with actual pros like JACKZ and amanek
2021-12-01 07:20
2 replies
flamie is a csgo legend that won numerus titels on the other hand 2 frenchis who didnt win anything and started at pro lvl where any other player retires
2021-12-01 12:14
1 reply
Yea started late and 4-5 years older yet they are better than flamie. Flamie kept getting carried by s1mple electronic lol
2021-12-01 14:08
Exactly and I dont know why people want G2 to continue with this roster when they only get close to beating Navi and cant get it done like Niko said at the major and with this change they could become consistent rival to G2 maybe even better with Niko playing like this
2021-11-30 06:55
tbh when Niko got a grip of the system it was never an issue, he always preforms.
2021-11-30 20:36
they're not competing to be 2nd, that's for sure. adding a player like monesy and an igl like aleksib can change things in their favor.
2021-11-30 05:06
9 replies
I've already explained why monesy is a bad addition. Nexa is a good igl that plays well individually and utilizes a style that the team is already familiar with. Changing too much stylistically can cause significant turbulence (same happened to faze when they lost karrigan)
2021-11-30 05:09
8 replies
you can't say it's a bad addition without at least it happening. it's a bet that can go very well or it can go wrong. nexa is at most a regular igl
2021-11-30 17:21
5 replies
Bet isn’t worth taking, same issue happened with furia. From top team to garbage with these random additions from the academy team and junior (same level as monesy tbh with inflated stats)
2021-11-30 17:54
4 replies
wtf, shit comparison furia reached the top 4 but had not played against any EU team at that time of the pandemics. junior was in triumph, with much worse stats compared to monesy. monesy has already been tested on tier 2 EU, which is infinitely better than tier 2 NA. teams today look at a NAVI way above, which hasn't lost 1 map in the major. either they make impactful changes or they don't get there.
2021-11-30 18:00
3 replies
no monesy has not been tested by tier 2 eu. He is losing consistently to tier 3 eu and only has good stats from farming big academy. Actually look at his recent games if you don't believe me. He is on par with junior for sure, the similarity is uncanny Furia would have been so much better if they didnt change what was working so well, though I understand that it wasnt necessarily their choice but they still chose new unproven players instead of established talents, which g2 might make the mistake of doing as well
2021-11-30 19:20
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performing well individually when you are in a junior team against pro teams is already good. if he plays well he won't make his team win all the time. man, the situations are completely different. furia had to change hen1 for junior. g2 has a chance to go for monesy against amanek - monesy is better than junior, at least much more promising. - hen1 was better than amanek at that time - g2 may be 1 step away from actually having a chance against navi. if you insist on the same things, the result will be no different., this line has already reached its maximum
2021-11-30 20:01
I have not heard of a player yet that absolutely destroys tier 3 scene in monesy style but wouldnt be good in tier 1 later. And he is only 16 so he's only going to improve.
2021-12-01 12:17
Aleksib does not need to change things stylistically. IGL's have ideas how to do things, but they do not LEAD the team. They are just the main shot caller, one who decides what to do in a given moment. Good IGL uses strengths of the team to create situation that have a good chance for a favorable outcome. Also Aleksib is primarily IGL, nexa is IGL because no one else does it. Nexa would be an amazing secondary caller to someone who is more natural to the IGL role. That's not to say nexa is a bad IGL, I am just saying that there is a good fucking chance that this can turn out great. Also, Niko wanted Aleksib all the way back in Faze. So you can bet your ass that Niko sees something.
2021-11-30 20:39
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+1, actual smart man over here for once.
2021-12-01 12:18
they should change their name to g1 since they always choke and get 2nd
2021-11-30 05:07
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#78
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Finland stounis
G2nd, what do you mean? name fits, but if -jackz -amanek they could be G1st
2021-12-01 03:39
If NiKo didn't pop off they' could've lost to Heroic
2021-11-30 05:09
11 replies
the team works around niko like navi works around simple. It makes sense that niko can play well in those conditions. Changing too much of that system might impair niko or the team entirely
2021-11-30 05:11
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Russia ToughGuy
Navi have way higher team rating so your argument is dumb
2021-11-30 05:18
NiKo is one of the most skilled players ever. He'll be fine im sure, and he deserves way better then what his team can provide atm.
2021-11-30 05:24
8 replies
+1
2021-11-30 05:28
g2 was already one of the best teams in the world without niko lol, only after niko joined did these players like amanek and jackz really begin to struggle because they had much less space
2021-11-30 05:38
6 replies
one of the best teams didnt win anything in 2 years
2021-11-30 20:55
2 replies
Did G2 win anything with Niko?
2021-12-01 07:15
1 reply
They have never been closer than with NiKo.When was the last time this G2 lineup without NiKo was close to winning a major final ?
2021-12-01 08:31
No ? They fell out top 10 and struggled to exit groups.With NiKo they became a solid top 4 team and it has been so long since G2 were actuall contenders for a title. It's just unlucky navi is wrecking house rn.
2021-12-01 08:32
Clueless
2021-12-01 12:20
Cap
2021-12-01 12:49
0/8 NiKo shouldnt be ok with 2nd place
2021-11-30 05:11
-they have no real awp -they have two players that are dead weight half the time, one of which IS their awp (vs top 5-10 teams at least) -they completely rely on NiKo to find openings on the map -they are incredibly inconsistent, probably because of their reliance on niko -they also seem to have pretty bad communication for a top 5 team G2 wants to be the best, and the current lineup will never consistently live up to that standard, especially not with NaVi playing the way they are. If you have NiKo on your team, you should be building your team to win every tournament you play at.
2021-11-30 05:23
3 replies
+8545673456
2021-11-30 05:28
g2 was already one of the best teams in the world without niko lol, only after niko joined did these players like amanek and jackz really begin to struggle because they had much less space. That is only statistically though, there is a lot that kds dont tell us about the success of a team
2021-11-30 05:38
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#68
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Ukraine bvs_
So as many people already pointed out: They don't want to be 1 of the best, they want to be THE BEST team
2021-11-30 20:41
+1
2021-11-30 05:35
1 reply
#24
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Brazil Yamat01
flair. you just know that with aleksib and m0nesy G2 is definitively the top 1 instead of navi, you're afraid.
2021-11-30 06:30
you can't rely on NiKo all the times. They would have dropped out of the legends stages had he had one or two off days and everyone would be blaming him now
2021-11-30 05:39
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#57
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Serbia hitomi79
They always blame the guy. It's pointless to win their hearts and minds, they just love to hate him
2021-11-30 20:27
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#82
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Norway Rattyy
+1
2021-12-01 06:25
#23
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Brazil Yamat01
they are right.
2021-11-30 06:29
Well if you look for the past majors most of the 2nd placers in the major kinda fell off
2021-11-30 06:38
#26
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Singapore Jjonath0n
no tournament wins yet
2021-11-30 06:39
aleksib is such a downgrade tbh
2021-11-30 06:39
3 replies
Getting rid of Nexa t sides is a must, they have enough firepower in niko and hunter already, if monesy fits they'll be unstoppable there will be no need for aleksi to provide some great fragging he just needs to make them have coherent t sides with direction even when niko doesn't get 2 entries and they'll do great.
2021-12-01 08:50
2 replies
u dont know what u are talking about
2021-12-01 11:55
1 reply
Nexa shit caller and turned to shit player while calling, get good caller and free nexa to hopefully play like a normal human again, what is hard to understand?
2021-12-01 12:40
they only got lucky at major
2021-11-30 06:41
2 replies
No, Astralis got lucky
2021-11-30 17:57
1 reply
+1
2021-11-30 20:56
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Italy PhilD06
I don’t think monesys english is that bad
2021-11-30 06:42
#32
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Australia Zilox
what are g2 doing?
2021-11-30 07:01
gt re mlk mono 2oi vgainoun kai olo einai xamenoi me liga logia looser... plk mas kaneis ? me auth th 5ada pou exoun den prokeitai na kerdisoun tpt pote.
2021-11-30 17:50
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Finland Doto_top1
they want to win something and this roster won't win anything
2021-11-30 17:53
2 replies
But they can easily win a lot with this? Only team that is better rn is navi
2021-11-30 17:55
1 reply
Honeslty nah, did we forget their 0-5 run recently? At the major they had godmode niko and others in solid form that's not always gonna happen, they can lose to gambit, heroic, probably faze on a good day, new fnatic and any team like cphf that shows up fired up and peaking. They want consistent results and tournament wins, this roster is streaky and too reliant on Niko.
2021-12-01 08:55
carlos knows what hes doing
2021-11-30 18:01
Your 1st line already speaks enough about your loser's mentality "why do they wanna keep aiming to become the best now that they have free market opportunities with so much to win, in and outside the game, instead of stacking 2nd places on LAN with a team that has reached its peak?" >Why not wait to see if the team can sustain great results Wtf you been livin under a rock. Thats what they've been doing and STILL are doing after IEM. They didn't have the need to make roster changes for God knows how long, they're even subbin kennyS in. They're past that phase. Now it's time to make the next move Results are good, but they want titles Also how is m0nesy's english worse than jackz or amas The only team I can trust on when it comes to msking decisions. They right
2021-11-30 18:12
#44
JACKZ | 
Croatia bert0
+1
2021-11-30 20:03
so what's your solution to fix g2 to be best team in the world?
2021-11-30 20:06
3 replies
assassinate s1mple
2021-11-30 20:08
1 reply
reasonable
2021-11-30 20:12
#59
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Serbia hitomi79
Blad3 buyout.
2021-11-30 20:29
>greek >eternal fire fan ?????????????????
2021-11-30 20:07
2 replies
#51
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
lol
2021-11-30 20:16
#61
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Serbia hitomi79
Cyprus syndrome? It's some sort of Mediterranean fever which I totally didn't made up.
2021-11-30 20:31
They got #2 in the only two lans they played and now they go and make such drastic change. Especially taking a chance on aleksib who atm is overrated af.
2021-11-30 20:11
5 replies
i think carlos and the g2 team itself knows a bit better than some random hltv users
2021-11-30 20:24
4 replies
Something only a coward would say.
2021-11-30 20:25
3 replies
only a coward would think he knows better than the g2 players.carlso and the igl himself,he has so much potential as a rifler,clearly nexa doesnt want to igl himself anymore and jackz and amanek both shit
2021-11-30 20:29
2 replies
Never said i know better, I was expressing my opinion, I didn't even say the lineup will fail. My assessment was that it is a high risk high reward situation, everything else is your own assumptions. /close
2021-11-30 20:30
1 reply
again what move is better,this roster will obviously never challenge navi with amanek as awp and almost 30 year old jackz with a 0.99 rating,they are shit options long term,and carlos doesnt like to just be 2nd at every tournament
2021-11-30 20:34
0/8
2021-11-30 20:12
Because they want to win events? Also how long can u expect NiKo to maintain this insane 1.35 rating carry mode? They have NiKo and hunter, they would be fools if they dont try actual proper structure around them. They have reached their peak with these pieces imo. Not winning IEM Winter would be a disappointment, lets see what they can do
2021-11-30 20:16
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#109
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Serbia DjapeZ
Why wouldnt we expect, after all he is one of best players of all time, and currently top3 player
2021-12-01 12:59
1 reply
But still, i think they have reached their peak. But just waste NiKo's prime cuz why not
2021-12-01 13:09
Just g2 things
2021-11-30 20:17
"2nd is a great result" loser copium much. the only good result is nr. 1. everything else in consolation
2021-11-30 20:22
2 replies
#63
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Serbia hitomi79
+1 Yeah, he can tell that to the US Army, the winners of silver medal in Vietnam War.
2021-11-30 20:35
1 reply
hahaha
2021-12-01 01:13
I think maybe yes but also maybe no
2021-11-30 20:40
#69
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Finland KieZuZ
Nexa is better without igl role. They dont have proper awper.
2021-11-30 20:42
Because they have ambitions. Because the only reason they got 2nd place is Niko going crazy and you can’t rely on 1 man performance to be outstanding each event. Because they lack dedicated AWP in AWP meta. Because their IGL doesn’t enjoy IGLing and only does it by necessary. That’s why.
2021-11-30 20:43
I mean, they have niko on the team and they want to win championships with such a good player, not have him carry them as just a top 5 team. Also, with all the other teams having rumored roster changes, or young players/teams, it will most likely be a lot harder for them to get 2nd place at tournaments anymore. It befalls a lot of teams that decide not to make changes.
2021-11-30 20:48
G2 aren't in CS to come 2nd
2021-11-30 20:49
+100
2021-12-01 03:53
Youre clearly a loser in life
2021-12-01 03:58
#81
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Finland WhyUBulla
They need awper and igl, aleksib and monesy is best thing they can get rn. instead trying to be only top5 team, g2 is clever and trying to be world best team i like that.
2021-12-01 05:24
they asked themselves, can this team ever be better than na'vi? the answer is no, hence they are making changes.
2021-12-01 07:31
#86
mantuu | 
Finland Ezku
Just a guess, but maybe they want to be number 1? have you thought about that?
2021-12-01 07:35
they want to win a trophy lul these guys are serial final chokers
2021-12-01 07:38
1 reply
name zekz out
2021-12-01 08:40
i think they got 2nd cuz the other teams were doing horribly or were in the other bracket, if they have had crossed paths with gambit, vitality, new astralis or even a more confident nip, the result would have been diferent (sorry for bad england)
2021-12-01 07:53
because they had a hard try to get to the major. they want also 2-0 runs like Navi
2021-12-01 07:55
Because G2 is an organization with money to spend and doesn't want to come in second place. G2 have already proven that they cannot beat NaVi multiple times and it's not like G2 is playing absolutely incredible cs and NaVi are the only team that can beat them, G2 has flaws that even basic fans can see, the one everyone talks about, a lack of a proper AWPer. Monesy will no doubt play better than Amanek on the AWP, although I personally believe that JACKZ should be kicked and Amanek should get his old roles back but I expect Amanek to be the one kicked. I do see the hesitation of a big org looking for trophies to pick up a 16 year old who hasn't been tested in t1 yet though. But one thing is certain, G2 will not be a number 1 team with this current roster, they are still 1, maybe 2 changes away.
2021-12-01 08:25
#92
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Qatar Conterob
cuz they got lucky there, that's it
2021-12-01 08:27
How could those rumored changes possibly ruin the team. Fuck its a fucking monday morning and i already see stupid fucks malding in the forums
2021-12-01 08:39
no good form astralis, vitality meh, gambit not good on lan, heroic also pretty meh on lan, vp also. only "real" opponent was navi
2021-12-01 11:58
It's simple, most teams played with people they removed, most of those people were the weaklinks. If you don't remove your own weaklinks then you won't make the final again next major
2021-12-01 12:00
2nd at major not sure that it reflects they r the 2nd best team in world
2021-12-01 12:02
dk mna
2021-12-01 13:17
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