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Spain Reddington_ 
Was thinking about studying IT or learn it, seems to be well paid and comfy job. How long it would take me to learn or become good at it so i can work in that area? Ty
2021-11-30 19:22
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it will take all ur nerves
2021-11-30 19:22
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#6
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China vegt
and hair
2021-11-30 19:25
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exactly
2021-11-30 19:25
can confirm, u lose 1/3 of hair each year at it uni
2021-12-01 01:30
#2
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United Kingdom Triturn
what?
2021-11-30 19:24
thats a personal question you have to ask yourself. lol, a few years typically. but how well do you adapt and learn? thats the real question, it also helps if you works for a better quality company.
2021-11-30 19:24
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i mean i believe i can adapt and learn fast and specially when it comes to pc stuff. im open to study or learn anything, but im at the very start of IT and the only thing i know is that i want to learn xD
2021-11-30 19:26
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at the end of the day. its about.. enjoying your job enough to stay in that field long enough to make real money. lol
2021-11-30 21:44
Depends on what you want to do.
2021-11-30 19:24
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#7
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Spain Reddington_
i dont really have idea, i want to work in IT thats all i can say atm, im open to learn study or anything
2021-11-30 19:25
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Well how much time are you willing to invest? IT is extremely broad and you can get a job working within the IT sector from having no education (just having basic knowledge of computing) or studying 5+ years. I would say the easiest to get a job is probably IT support since it requires the least amount of education. If you want to aim a bit higher and be sought after more on the job market I would recommend you learning a relevant coding language. I would say these are the easiest ways to get in to the IT sector.
2021-11-30 20:30
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how much would IT support pay in sweden?
2021-11-30 20:36
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I had to google and I found several different sources saying different things, but apparently the average is between 2,642 and 3,493 Euros a month.
2021-11-30 20:40
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would u say that is good for living in sweden? lets say 2.5k euro
2021-11-30 21:01
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I think it depends on your age and family situation and where in Sweden you live (the bigger cities are more expensive, I imagine it being similar in Estonia). If you are a single mother or father making that maybe it would suck but if you are 20+ something single dude who lives for the weekend I think that is good enough. I mean I've made around that several years ago and I was fine.
2021-11-30 21:18
its a meh salary if you are looking to earn some money do your best to work your way into google/microsoft as software engineer or just software engineer in general
2021-11-30 22:14
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#97
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Czech Republic T18^
being coder in unreal engine, unity, roblox studio is a way to earn hard cash as well if you have 3+ years experience its not a problem to get 3-5k $ as a start salary
2021-12-01 01:08
#84
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Sweden EntonXD
kindergarten teacher salary
2021-11-30 23:54
The Clown?
2021-11-30 19:24
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Hahahahahha
2021-11-30 19:29
you'll be replaced by some indian dude in a few years anyway
2021-11-30 19:26
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+1 i can confirm
2021-12-01 00:31
studying IT isnt very easy aswell as working as an IT (technician) i speak for my experience as a beginner in IT field.. if you are obsessed with computers and science you might have it easy or else.
2021-11-30 19:26
Pretty boring if you ask me. if you spend like 4-5 hours a day for 6 months, you can get an entry level job.
2021-11-30 19:27
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I can spend 4-5 hours a day for 6 months, thsts no problem if it comes to learn something or work
2021-11-30 19:28
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thats if you like it, u gonna be done mentally after 2-3 weeks use hackerrank.com/ and w3schools.com/ to learn programming or other topics within it. both are free and great
2021-11-30 22:16
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+1 for w3schools
2021-11-30 22:18
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That's actually a bad source in most cases. MDN for js
2021-11-30 23:38
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okay
2021-12-01 06:32
Don't call one of my favorite hobbies boring or you will have to 1v1 me on a US server. -_-.
2021-11-30 20:39
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Well, its not that boring, but if you combine it with the people that you have to work with, its pretty bad. 80% are anti social, star wars fans, then you have 10% thinking they are so smart and cool, which is not the case. its just depressing for me.
2021-12-01 04:21
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It might be, I just fix computers/PCB's/electronics for fun. Never worked for IT. so IT is more like working at a game dev studio than engineering?
2021-12-01 04:52
#113
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Russia Drain3r
nvm
2021-12-01 05:35
Are you able to go to university? That's probably the best way to stay motivated to study for a long time.
2021-11-30 19:27
Be sure to ask for bobs and vagene
2021-11-30 19:31
#19
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Croatia Terch3r0
if u are going for IT tech, if you are already good with pc's, it will take you around 1y of work to learn most of it. if you are going for programming part, probably few years for junior. +yeah takes alot of time+nerves, its quite frustrating at begining. tho you could learn html way faster, but there are 999999999999999 ppl that know html + some other programing language, so you probably dont have much of chance (and yeah html pays quite low compared to other languages)
2021-11-30 19:33
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tl;dr .. is it worth it or no?
2021-11-30 19:33
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#21
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Croatia Terch3r0
i think yes, if you are already into that. tech part probably more worth it, if you compare how much you need to study/know compared to sallary you are getting. tech part is quite chill actually, and you keep doing same stuff over and over, quite easy. programming part gets way bigger sallary, still worth it if you are 'logical' person. if not, and if you arent much into IT, its going to be hell for you
2021-11-30 19:39
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I mean, not sure what tech does if you could explain it to me and how much he gets as salary, but sounds very good. Programming? i dont know what to expect there and how hard it will be but i could try
2021-11-30 19:45
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#28
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Croatia Terch3r0
well, from my expirience in tech, you dont have to know much, but you have to be with someone that knows alot. if you get job where someone is willing to take you under his wing, you will learn almost everything thats most companies need from techs. mostly when company needs tech its for fixing pc's, printers, installing network cables, modems, working with servers (which is kinda advanced, cuz you could make multi million dmg to company if you fuckup something), or if you work for company that takes jobs from customers, its mostly cleaning laptops/pcs/ps/xbox etc, which is easy once you do it few times, or assembling pcs. thing is, as i said, you cant rly learn that on youtube, you have to work with someone that already knows what he is doing. if you find that person, you could do it all solo after 1year if you get that 1 year expirience, its rly chill job. like company can be satisfied with you working 5h on something, but in reality it took you 1h, and 4 hours you are just chilling pretending you are working and yeah, if you arent already familliar with any programming language, its going to be hell for you. not impossible, but rly hard (sorry for editing so much)
2021-11-30 20:03
lmao the guy is helping you , and you ask him to give a short answer because u are to lazy to read the owl thing. good luck learning any decent language if you are like this to the people who even take their time to teach you something.
2021-11-30 19:40
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Im not lazy to read it, i just didnt understand if its worth it or no since he said there is 9999999 ppl that know that + other programming, if you dont know whats going on dont even comment, ty
2021-11-30 19:44
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tldr literally means too long didn't read, u could've just said you didn't understand
2021-11-30 21:27
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didnt know that meaning
2021-11-30 22:07
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it's ok
2021-12-01 01:28
I hate technology and technophiles, had to learn how to code because my field (economics) demands it
2021-11-30 19:42
#24
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Luxembourg Aybars1
came here to see pennywise the clown one xD
2021-11-30 19:43
this is one of those places where you either must: A. really like it (programming) - you don't seem to be the case, otherwise you would have done something already B. be a really hard worker that can do just about anything, kind of like a mercenary if you are not in the 2 above, you will suffer. Is it comfy hmm .. the salaries are above average but it's often painful and you have little power on what is actually built how much time well .. it depends on natural intelligence, your previous experience and how motivated you are. At 3-4 hours a day for 6 months, you could catch a junior position, but you need to target something specific. things like 'i'll do webdesign' won't cut it.
2021-11-30 19:49
First of all, you need to study the possibilities in IT. Unix admin, Windows admin, DBA, Security, Programming, Storage & backup etc. There are many options, once decided, around 3 to 5 years to become a good professional and 5+ years to become an expert.
2021-11-30 19:54
#30
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Brazil Vicmar
You will have a lot of fun I guarantee you
2021-11-30 19:58
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0/8
2021-11-30 21:28
Sorry to say but people who want to do something go and do it, they don't ask how many years will it take me to do something.
2021-11-30 20:01
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+1, if the only reason you want to do it is because you think it will be easy and stress free, you are wrong. You will find it very stressful and frustrating. If you know a lot about it already, and are already good in that area, then it will be easy money and a lot less stress.
2021-11-30 20:42
#32
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United States EaZy113
I'm studying networking and cyber security in high school. It all depends on what field of IT you want. if you want to just be a help desk guy like I was, the CompTIA A+ is a good certification to start, but if you are looking for a networking job go for the CCNA or CompTIA network+ certifications they will teach you the basics and the intermediate network disciplines. PM me if you have any more questions
2021-11-30 20:05
#33
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Romania tobz83
its good just need to have the following requirements (in order to be truly successful) which are midget, poor parents, balding, disgusting nerd, think alcohol cigaretes drugs bad, ugly af, netflix watcher (minimum amount of hours tho). only start if 5+ requirements checked
2021-11-30 20:08
Isaiah Thomas deserves to play :c
2021-11-30 20:08
learning can be fun and doing own projects can be rewarding but as a job its very mentally taxing and definitely not comfy like u think, u never get to make what u want or how u want, you do what youre told and u do exactly that even if its stupid and most of the time its exactly that nagging clients forcing you to make useless features and when youve made it they tell u they dont need it anymore making updates and maintaining products can be a nightmare, libraries can stop working when u update something, legacy code etc i have friend who worked as programmer and quit the well paying job to work at a warehouse to live stress free and focus on gym its very hard to feel fulfilled and purposeful in life when youre a robot making products that people get addicted to
2021-11-30 20:26
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all of those problems sound the same as what my freelancing friend told me. i assume u're doing the same?
2021-11-30 20:39
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i work for a company but its same situation as many freelancers customers wanna learn CMS but still ask u to do everything, avoid paying fair costs, alot of politics etc bullshit
2021-11-30 21:14
It depends on what you do. Not all jobs are like that. I have a relatively new and unique set of problems for every project.
2021-11-30 20:44
IT is very vague, you might be referring to web page programming or working with networks or even related to operating system development. Or simply project documentation
2021-11-30 20:37
#42
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Denmark 12inchNRG
Worked in IT for 15 years and now Cybersecurity for 6 years. IT is certainly not a 'comfy' job, it's very stressful and has the highest suicide rate of any white collar profession. It certainly can pay well, I was making $150K USD when I left IT, however Cybersecurity pays significantly more than IT. However you aren't walking into IT and making good money, you're making shit money for the first 2-10 years depending how skilled you are. I've met people who made $100k salaries within 2 years, and I've met people still making $50k 10 years into their career. IT is a hard slog, you need to continually be studying to make really good money.
2021-11-30 20:44
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how old are u?
2021-11-30 21:32
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#102
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Denmark 12inchNRG
40
2021-12-01 01:29
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what do you do on HLTV ?
2021-12-01 01:29
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#110
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Denmark 12inchNRG
I've played CS since it was released and I enjoy following it now. I don't post a lot in the forums, too toxic, but I'll post occasionally.
2021-12-01 04:47
Well, in most professions you need to study and develop yourself, it's not like building techniques didn't change. Is IT stressful? It's all about project and responsibilities you take. You can always agree for a less money & responsibilities. Most long-term projects are cosy and far away from being stressful.
2021-11-30 23:58
sounds like nerd shit
2021-11-30 20:41
most jobs will probably require knowledge around a bunch of technologies like programming languages, databases, cloud, docker, kubernetes etc so it'll take you a couple of years for sure but as soon as you enter the market learning should go faster
2021-11-30 20:42
#47
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North America Straf3R
It doesnt take long to learn, definitely easier than Comp Sci. The most important thing is to keep learning, as IT is ever changing. Best of luck! also, definitely learn python, its the easiest of the languages and is very useful
2021-11-30 20:45
I'm a sysadmin. Lots of work and things to remember but cozy and in-demand skills. IT is board. Are you looking to do support, cloud, devops, web dev, sysadmin, security, networking?
2021-11-30 21:16
depends on your learning pace and how advanced are the skills you are trying to achieve
2021-11-30 21:26
it's not even comfy when u're learning it, bugs are really annoying, and u will experience mental breakdowns often, cuz even me with 120IQ+ don't get it everything at first time, I encounter moments like "wtf is going here with this code", and some thing take times to grasp and few attempts to learn it i managed to make top11 in around 3 months at css battle, and CSS is relatively easy language, but the possibles seems endless. and I still feel like a loser compared to the top guys, cuz they know so much, u will have that imposter syndrome a lot, and there is a lot more to learn than u can imagine right now so i doubt when have a boss that demands things from you it gets any better also keep it mind that it's highly logical, abstract and soulless field (robotic like, dehumanization) if u're socially driven person, u won't be happy at all
2021-11-30 21:52
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#67
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Brazil ricca
bro i want to kill myself just by browsing this cssbatltle site
2021-11-30 22:25
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why ? :D
2021-11-30 22:46
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#72
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Brazil ricca
looks stressful, + i hate losing
2021-11-30 22:51
Bro, you are taking coding way too seriously. Don't waste your time on practicing css forever. Most of the project are using prebuild components, which you usually edit. It's pretty rare to build everything from scratch. Remember the lesson I learned from seniors and project managers. Don't be perfectionist in coding, projects are better fairy good but done than perfect, but not done. Coding itself is about googling too. Cheers
2021-11-30 23:55
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I just like CSS, unfortunately there is no much advance material out there, after getting to know the basic u're kind of your own, and css battle was simply fun for me, I made a huge progress, considering in September I was just happy about getting 100% match and I didn't care about the length of the code at all, then I learned to DRY the code massively step by step but tbh I doubt those staff that I use there is very useful for real web development, web building, it's just about finding shortcuts, however in order to do that sometimes deep understanding of css is needed, I know cuz I talked with nr1 guy on git hub and discord, he is kind of like walking css encyclopedia overall code for daily use is about readability, which in case of css battle has nothing do it with it anyways don't worry, starting from today I move much more over to learning python and javascript, cuz that's what ppl pay for, which most likely occurs as another months of pain 🤣
2021-12-01 00:58
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Sadly, without js + modern framework (react, vue or angular) you won't get job on today's market. Html and css alone are insufficient. Maybe if you would be lucky you could get a job as a slicer, but it's not paid well compared to normal coding and getting really repetitive fast.
2021-12-01 01:09
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im aware of that, that's why it's time to move on
2021-12-01 01:24
#59
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Brazil ricca
if you want to become a web dev learn html > css > javascript > react/nextjs; id also would recommend learning at least one css framework like tailwind or sass; learning web design rules would be an awesome difference in your cv things like ux, ui, color rules, typography, etc You can learn all that in 6~12 months and then you will be set to start searching for jobs as a junior dev, it's pretty easy to find It's a really stressful area, but you can get along with it, as #57 said, if you are social butterfly that's probably not your area. You don't need an university degree to get well paid, i know people out there who are making 120k USD/year without a degree (if you are still at high school id recommend you getting into uni tho). And finally my favorite part of it, with experience you can find jobs worldwide, you can work remotely while traveling around the world if you want hopefully i didn't fuckd up with grammar
2021-11-30 22:13
#60
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Poland Hanse
I seriously don't know how I would start it again, if you don't feel interested about this topic you will simply torture yourself. You must be pasionate about every thing regarding IT to have good job or just focus all your work on learning one particular thing and stick to them
2021-11-30 22:13
depends on how you work its different for everyone. if you work super hard maybe like a few years?
2021-11-30 22:15
you will become bald due to mald
2021-11-30 22:21
#68
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Europe letqpena
You won't land a comfy, well-paying job in a good company straight outta college unless you've specialized and excelled in some emerging or relatively obscure tech. It's going to be shit one way or the other for at least couple of years.
2021-11-30 22:27
just choose what you want to do like become a tester, basic programmer, software engineer, mobile app developer etc. and i recommend you to decide in which field you want to work like web, e-commerce, finance etc if you have enough motivation then it won't take more than 6-8 months to get started with something as an intern or junior specialist
2021-11-30 22:29
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But where should i learn all that stuff, like studying or some course on net?
2021-11-30 23:25
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learncpp.com/ have fun You could always do a Grado Superior DAM/DAW or go for University Computer Science, if you want, of course
2021-11-30 23:28
It'll be always great to get a bachelor degree and it's gonna be nothing but an advantage to you. But to be honest you can get started faster by buying course on udemy/ using solo learn and reading some books and articles/ youtube has almost everything. But you need to choose what actually you want to learn and what can become your passion for like 2-3 years (it's enough to become somewhere around middle specialist in most fields). If you need any advices you can always PM me and I'll be happy to help you
2021-11-30 23:31
#73
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Turkey 0gzi
IT is a very broad field. First you have to decide whether you want to deal with software or hardware. Then, if you want to continue with the software, you should start with the simple things first. As an example: I can say HTML, CSS, Python languages. Good luck.
2021-11-30 22:55
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Thank you
2021-11-30 23:24
#79
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Spain mil1er
There are many spheres in IT. Can you specify where exactly do you want to work at? Security, routing, programming, maintaining servers?
2021-11-30 23:46
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At this moment im not very sure which one, as i thought its IT in general, didnt know it had such different parts. Security, routing sounds good
2021-12-01 00:23
I switched from sales to IT in 6months of learning to code without IT background. It wasn't like I had to put my life on the lane, but it took some commitment. After 6 months of learning I was hired on trainee program, which took 2months and then I was hired as a junior. After 2 years I earn over 2k euro netto which is quite okay and raise is coming in January. I wouldn't go for helpdesk / it support cuz usually it's badly paid. I would aim for a web developer / manual tester / some backend dev (.net or python have lots of work offers and are fairy easy compared to other languages). You can try cybersecurity or UX&UI designer, but it's as time consuming as previous fields and have way less job offers. Tbh, coding is kinda overrated and people make religion of that, which is cringe af. It's job like any other, has it's up and down, but it's kinda well paid atm. Oh, and you won't have to feel special about urself as you were the next Zuckerberg, cuz probably you will end up in another e-commerce project
2021-11-30 23:48
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Thank you, where did you learn that? Ty
2021-12-01 00:23
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Most on web, like udemy, frontendmasters and codeacademy. I also attended stationary bootcamp in warsaw that took 8 weeks and costed 2.5k eur
2021-12-01 01:04
I wouldn't say its the most exciting. I am currently an IT intern for a cybersecurity company. There is many branches of IT. But I like what I am doing. It was much better than working retail. I am also studying IT in university. There are some IT youtubers that I watched that helped me get my internship. Some VM labs you can do to practice like windows 10 and active directory if you are starting out.
2021-11-30 23:48
#82
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Canada Femtal
sadly I don't know much about Spain's education system but here in Quebec we have specified diplomas called AEC it last around a year and its super effective if you want to work in that field I did IT and now I'm working tech support (not customer service) in a large Telecom company being paid 26$ per hour right now
2021-11-30 23:51
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#83
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Canada Femtal
(working part time and going to school also)
2021-11-30 23:52
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Whats the requirements to join that specified course?
2021-12-01 00:21
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#90
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Canada Femtal
high school diploma and maybe a few hundred dollars
2021-12-01 00:23
#87
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Latvia sonofdog
If you want to get into networking and don't have experience get a certificate like CCNA and later (for PROs) CCNP and they will open you many doors as network engineer
2021-12-01 00:00
Don't go there only for money. There more easier way to earn money. It requires u be persevering, like if u wanna be a good one, at least give it 3 hours per day. Or no point to start. At least I think like that
2021-12-01 00:32
If you really plan to study IT you have to love it a lot. It's a lot of study time and that can put you off a little. This happened to me after I found out IT wasn't for me At least I got so fucking good at math. I remember I solved an MIT Geometry question (this when I was at the peak of my study)
2021-12-01 00:40
Better study programming right now
2021-12-01 01:10
6 months of hard work (self learning) and you should be able to qualify for an entry-level position. If you're interested in web development specifically, you should do The Odin Project. it really depends on what kind of IT job you're considering getting into.
2021-12-01 01:41
#106
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Ukraine Bakagan
have you already choose what do you want to study? also for the most specializations half a year + 6 months of freelancing practicing will be enough
2021-12-01 01:48
Half a year will be enough imo, if you are commited, you will be able to get an internship as a very least and then it will go smoothly. I have been learning programming and network for 3 years. My applications were rejected couple of times but today will be my first day as a network administrator intern. Don't stop believing 👊
2021-12-01 04:28
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My suggestion will be, if you have a friend in this line of work you better consult with him. It will be very hard to get started yourself. I couldn't do it. University helped me to force myself to study it. A friend will direct you to the correct path. IT field is amazing but it can also become very boring very easily thus it's very easy to lose the motivation, because of the feeling of being lost. I have a friend who asked me to teach him some basic programming and after 2 weeks he just gave up. You must stay committed if you want to succeed, there's no easy path
2021-12-01 04:51
#109
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Other Triqay
don't bother it is the most fucking boring field on this rock, being a librarian is literally more interesting
2021-12-01 04:29
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