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Top 10 2021 (no bait)
MrFuckYou | 
Romania Ancient_One12 
1. S1mple 2. ZywOo 3. shiro 4. NiKo 5. Eletronic 6. B1t 7. Hobbit 8. Dev1ce 9. Axile (he played like shit recently I don't think he deserves) 10. Stavn This will be top 10 2021, bookmark this if you want but I'm always right, have a good day!
2021-12-01 17:53
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s1mple sh1ro (3 MVP, 4 EVP) zywOo (3 EVP) hobbit (2 MVP, 4 EVP, rating 1.18 vs top20) niko (3 EVP, rating 1.19 vs top20) ax1le (2mvp) electronic jame device b1t (He has been playing full-time for the main squad since April. It can't be higher in any way)
2021-12-01 17:55
51 replies
Zywoo will get iem winter mvp and get top 2
2021-12-01 17:55
28 replies
ZywOo would be top 2 even without that
2021-12-01 17:56
22 replies
not this time
2021-12-06 13:21
is it a new excuse in case he didn't get mvp in tier 2 event?
2021-12-06 13:26
20 replies
Nt iem winter is a tier1 event The only good team absent is navi
2021-12-06 13:58
19 replies
name
2021-12-06 13:59
18 replies
flair
2021-12-06 15:56
1 reply
flair
2021-12-06 17:14
iq check
2021-12-06 18:48
15 replies
yes you need it
2021-12-06 19:13
14 replies
nt Torres_ alt
2021-12-06 19:39
13 replies
wdym delusional
2021-12-06 20:16
12 replies
flair
2021-12-06 20:21
11 replies
name, flair, iq
2021-12-06 20:26
10 replies
age check out
2021-12-06 21:21
9 replies
delusional
2021-12-06 21:22
8 replies
faceit lvl check out
2021-12-07 18:26
7 replies
delusional, that what happen when you have low iq...
2021-12-07 18:48
6 replies
repeating same sentence, that what happen when you are low level faceit
2021-12-07 19:17
5 replies
it's dint even make a sense, low iq confirmed name, flair, iq = CLOWN
2021-12-07 19:31
4 replies
your flair = even less iq=you're not the clown, you are the whole circus
2021-12-07 19:44
3 replies
how my iq can be less if I dont write thinks what dosent make any sense here? It's only you hello... what a delusional low iq kid, even in your name ............................. LMAO
2021-12-07 19:56
2 replies
bla bla bla splish splash your opinion is tr4sh
2021-12-07 20:38
1 reply
no arguments was expected from you... name, flair, iq = CLOWN
2021-12-07 20:47
bro, vitality lose mouz and astralis lower braket last place, 2 days and go copenhagen blast world final
2021-12-01 17:57
3 replies
nope
2021-12-06 12:40
aged veri wel
2021-12-06 13:22
Bad try
2021-12-06 13:53
Not sure about that, right now Jame and Niko have highest rating in IEM winter, if vitality can win VP and win also the final, otherwise....
2021-12-06 13:51
jame aint gonna be higher than yekindar and neither were that good since katowice
2021-12-01 17:59
2 replies
bro, statka ne o4en' y yekindar za 2021. jame 1 mvp, 1 EVP (katowice)
2021-12-01 18:00
1 reply
hltv.org/stats/players/13915/yekindar?st.. statka zaebis + high af impact
2021-12-01 18:02
hobbit has MVPs? I thought it was only ax1le and sh1ro with 2 each this year lmao
2021-12-01 18:30
2 replies
2 mvp hobbit, 2 mvp ax1le, 3 mvp sh1ro
2021-12-01 18:48
1 reply
damn, they nutty
2021-12-01 18:50
+1 perfect top 10 tbh
2021-12-06 12:47
1 reply
Don't think device will get that spot. He's right out of top10 though. B1t will most likely be at the end of top10, end electronic around 7-8 i think.
2021-12-07 21:07
#52
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
agree with all but dev1ce for what? i mean now he start kill someone but he doesnt show up anything special yet
2021-12-06 12:55
#66
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Croatia Pagan44
Swap elec and ax1le and that should be it
2021-12-06 13:17
2 replies
Never
2021-12-06 13:33
1 reply
#103
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Croatia Pagan44
Flair
2021-12-06 14:58
devve 1 mvp btw
2021-12-06 13:21
1 reply
#98
mertz | 
Togo V1tus
+1
2021-12-06 14:03
#84
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Russia FutureCk
+1
2021-12-06 13:32
all those gambot mvps were online
2021-12-06 14:15
please don't act like online mvp is anywhere close to valuable
2021-12-06 17:13
Sh1ro has 2 mvps (who cares about mvp from t2 tournament)
2021-12-06 17:22
+1
2021-12-07 18:50
+1
2021-12-07 19:31
how can u ever put sh1ro higher than zywoo XD
2021-12-07 19:56
not even in the worst world ax1le will be over electronic.
2021-12-07 21:47
#2
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Brazil Yamat01
It's a bait
2021-12-01 17:54
1 reply
No
2021-12-01 17:55
an awper cant be top 1 my mens niko elec hobbit top 3
2021-12-01 17:55
3 replies
#85
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Russia FutureCk
niko bit hobbit
2021-12-06 13:33
2 replies
as of rn elec>bit
2021-12-06 17:13
1 reply
#137
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Russia FutureCk
it's as of rn
2021-12-06 19:32
#6
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Brazil Yamat01
1. S1mple 2. Sh1ro 3. Niko 4. Zywoo Don't care
2021-12-01 17:55
1 reply
+1
2021-12-01 18:02
Says not bait but doesnt have hobbit top1 0/8
2021-12-01 17:55
1 reply
God hobbit should be top 3 if sh0r0 would not bait
2021-12-01 17:56
s1mple zywoo sh1ro niko hobbit ax1le ropz kscerato
2021-12-01 17:56
5 replies
Papatronic and b1t are there no matter what
2021-12-01 17:56
4 replies
i agree but these are just facts: hltv.org/stats?startDate=2021-01-01&endD..
2021-12-01 17:57
3 replies
Tournament wins are more valuable than rating
2021-12-01 17:58
1 reply
of course but if we look only ratings this would be the top 10
2021-12-01 18:00
Kscerato no way he's making top10
2021-12-06 12:43
#10
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World DolphinfK
not bad, a little correction 1. S1mple 2. shiro 3. ZywOo 4. NiKo 5. B1t 6. Hobbit 7. electronic
2021-12-01 17:58
b1t and electronic are too high up, ax1le has much better stats than them and also MVPs while they have none
2021-12-01 17:56
12 replies
B1t and electronic are igs and major winners
2021-12-01 17:57
4 replies
team achievements dont matter
2021-12-01 18:02
3 replies
Lol? Astralis got all their players in top 20 2018 just cuz of that
2021-12-01 18:02
2 replies
it doesnt work like that anymore, with the years the top 20 list changed into a much more individual list
2021-12-01 18:29
Astralis got all their players in the top 20 because they dominated so hard, all of their stats were inflated. Especially their stats in playoffs.
2021-12-06 16:59
elec will be top7 and b1t top8, screenshot this
2021-12-01 17:59
3 replies
#28 they wont
2021-12-01 18:02
2 replies
they got good stats and played alot of maps unlike some players with slighly better stats but 2x less maps lol. + got evp on pretty much any event that navi were in finals which is like 70% of big int events in 2021
2021-12-01 18:04
1 reply
electronic maybe is top 7-10 and b1t top 10-15
2021-12-01 18:30
Imagine getting MVP with s1mple in your team.
2021-12-06 12:57
2 replies
s1mple steals all the MVPs
2021-12-06 12:58
#68
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Croatia Pagan44
+1 almost immposible, b1t and elec had great ratings and were in top 5 rated players of cologne major and blast fall final yet no mvp award cause s1mple is always first and has an even better rating, so yeah
2021-12-06 13:21
Didn't read after stavn
2021-12-01 17:57
1 reply
Good
2021-12-01 17:58
#21
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Brazil gtaube
el1an?
2021-12-01 17:59
1 reply
I actually should have put lambert there
2021-12-01 18:01
Device won't be in top10 unless they do very well in last two tournaments
2021-12-01 18:00
2 replies
He got shit event iem fall MVP, be sure they will put him there just cuz his name is dev1ce and that he got that mvp
2021-12-01 18:02
1 reply
At least then we will know how biased hltv really is.
2021-12-01 18:05
more likely to happen
2021-12-06 12:40
Stavn will not be in top20 Device will not be top10
2021-12-06 12:42
s1mple ZywOo sh1ro HObbit NiKo Electronic Ax1Le YEKINDAR Jame B1T
2021-12-06 12:46
4 replies
b1t higher ropz not even in top 30 with shit team mouz
2021-12-06 12:45
2 replies
No, B1T's stats are great only 6 months of the year
2021-12-06 12:46
1 reply
he won major and igs
2021-12-06 12:47
Good list, similar to mine
2021-12-06 13:51
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8, but no time to w8, need to r8 another b8
2021-12-06 12:50
1 reply
stoppink
2021-12-06 12:50
1 - s1mple 2 - NiKo 3 - ZywOo 4 - sh1ro 5 - cadiaN 6 - Jame 7 - device 8 - electronic 9 - yuurih
2021-12-06 12:51
s1mple ZywOo sh1ro Niko Hobbit Electronic Ax1le Jame Yekindar device B1t
2021-12-06 12:56
6 replies
jame no yekindar maybe b1t higher
2021-12-06 12:56
5 replies
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. He will be there, like it or not. Performed at all big events + 1 MVP. Other than that, maybe yeah.
2021-12-06 12:59
3 replies
what mvp did jame get
2021-12-06 13:01
2 replies
cs_summit 7
2021-12-06 13:04
Jame has got 1 MVP and will get MVP of IEM Winter
2021-12-06 14:11
Agree but Hobbit probably will be Higher than Elec and B1t
2021-12-06 12:56
maybe jame will be here
2021-12-06 13:03
#62
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Brazil Dorinha13
Do u guys think Kscerato deserves at least a top15?
2021-12-06 13:03
1 reply
Of course he does in my opinion.
2021-12-06 13:13
switch niko and shi1ro and it's good
2021-12-06 13:15
#67
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Norway weaveRRR
1. rain 2. f0rest 3. Twistzz 4. broky 5. olofmeister 6. draken 7. karrigan 8. cromen 9. allu 10. aizy
2021-12-06 13:19
3 replies
-draken +discodoplan
2021-12-06 13:25
1 reply
Lmao
2021-12-07 20:59
No no no.. 1. Simple 2. Niko 3. Zywoo 4. Shiro ...
2021-12-06 13:21
Sure s1mple won the major and has the best stats on basically every map but have you seen plopski? think I would put plopski as #1
2021-12-06 13:22
+1 legit list
2021-12-06 13:22
B1T 6 ? No doupt he had an amazing year with a lot of trophies won but this isn't enough. You saying that he deserves to be placed so high just because he won many trophies ? hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?startDa.. I know that LAN and Major will count x10 more than online but even this fact isn't enough...with your logic , device should have been the top1 player of 2018 and not s1mple.
2021-12-06 13:23
2 replies
Better than dev1ce at least
2021-12-06 13:26
1 reply
I talked only about the fact that you placed BIT higher than he deserves. But i agree BIT >>> device this year. Tbh device barely deserves a top10 finish in 2021.
2021-12-06 13:30
kscerato>stavn
2021-12-06 13:24
3 replies
+ 10000000 I don't even know why people put stavn so high and overrate him. He didn't achieve something special in 2021 and also KCSERATO individualy is way better. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/10994/sta..
2021-12-06 13:35
2 replies
Stavn carries her0ic
2021-12-06 13:38
1 reply
Heroic doesn't got carried from anyone...more or less everyone has almost the same statistics. They win as a team because of the great teamwork and not from individual performances.
2021-12-06 13:48
i think bit is too high
2021-12-06 13:26
#81
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Sweden Zyrtix2000
1. s1mple 2. Niko 3. sh1ro 4. zywoo 5. electronic 6. Ax1le 7. Rez 8. B1t 9. Yekindar 10. Cadian and 11-20, not in order: dev1ce, Hobbit, jame, elige, jaCkz, misutaaa, Twiztz, broky, ropz, KSCERATO Would maybe swap elige for stavn but not sure
2021-12-06 13:29
1 reply
+1
2021-12-06 17:12
The list started off so good but went south real fast
2021-12-06 13:28
4 replies
I believe completely the same dude..top4 is nice but then the list started to downgrade a lot.. Hobbit must be higher Ax1Le must be higher B1T must be lower stavn must be much much lower
2021-12-06 13:39
3 replies
Yes, I agree with you
2021-12-06 13:51
2 replies
I don't agree with you
2021-12-06 13:52
1 reply
Actually I don't agree with you too Stavn is no where near top 10. Axile with hobbit is still above electronic and b1t. I think they are above because they both have 2 mvps. Electronic might be above axile if he performs good at the last event but still unknown. B1t can enter top 10 but he won't go higher than top 7 Device enters top 10 i agree Anyway, let's wait until the Blast Global finishes and then argue ;)
2021-12-06 16:32
regardless of what happens in december 1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. sh1ro 4. ax1le 5. niko 6. hobbit 7. elec 8. b1t 9. hunter 10. yekindar
2021-12-06 14:36
7 replies
Axile never top 5 this year
2021-12-06 14:44
6 replies
Stats EVP and MVP on relevant events says otherwise
2021-12-06 14:59
5 replies
Hobbit is better than Ax1Le tho
2021-12-06 15:34
4 replies
considering roles and from personal eyetest i would say yeah but axile has slightly better stats and 1 more mvp on big events
2021-12-06 15:41
3 replies
Only stats don't matter..hobbit bring way much more things to the team except from good stats or fragging...experience also matters a lot...and of course iam sure he advises every single one of his teammates with tactics , right positions and much more things. Hobbit is the reason for Gambit's success. Imagine the other 4 kids without Hobbit and tell me if they would be able to achieve what they achieved without him. Hobbit makes everyone in his team look and play better.
2021-12-06 15:54
2 replies
i agree i just dont know if hltv would value these things over raw statistics, we will see
2021-12-06 15:59
1 reply
Lets hope they will , because major winner and cute daddy Hobbit deservers at least to enter top5. I respect him so much as a player and character of course.
2021-12-06 16:09
#109
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Turkey duxs1
im only for sure about s1mple, the 2nd player also can change but prolly sh1ro (imo)
2021-12-06 15:58
#112
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
device top-10 in 2021? I aren't think that.
2021-12-06 16:14
2 replies
Yes
2021-12-06 16:21
1 reply
#114
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
btw Stavn not even top-20 this year :)
2021-12-06 16:22
1. s1mple 2. niko 3. shiro 4. zywoo 5. electronic 6. ax1le 7. hobb1t 8. hunter 9. teses 10. b1t
2021-12-06 16:36
#117
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Argentina atriX^
Terrible. LAN will probably be weighted heavily but b1t is not making the top10 and I'd expect electronic to be top6-10. Ax1Le will be higher he was good the first half of the year. stavn is definitely not top10. YEKINDAR should make it and ropz as well.
2021-12-06 16:44
#118
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United States Consanit
1. s1mple 2. ZyWoo 3. sh1ro 4. NiKo 5. Hobbit 6. Ax1Le 7. Jame 8. device 9. electronic 10. YEKINDAR
2021-12-06 16:47
1.s1mple 2.ZywOo 3.NiKo 4.Sh1ro biggest gap in hltv top 20 history 5.Hobbit 6.Electronic 7.Ax1le 8.Yekindar 9.Dev1ce 10.b1t
2021-12-06 16:52
#121
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North Macedonia Gorjan
1. s1mple 2. zywoo, still deserves it more than sh1ro 3. sh1ro 4. niko 5. electronic/hobbit 6. electronic/hobbit 7. maybe device, he dissapointed this year 8. yekindar
2021-12-06 17:03
great list actually
2021-12-06 17:08
#128
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
1. S1mple 2. Zywoo 3. Sh1ro 4. NiKo 5. Hobbit 6. Ax1le 7. ropz 8. Jame 9. KSCERATO 10. Yekindar\electronic And i laugh at those fanboys who put device in the top-10. There is no chance that hltv will put him in the top-10, he didn't deserve it.
2021-12-06 17:50
2 replies
Kscerato not top 10 unfortunately but I put device cuz hltv are device fanboys and will for sure put him there
2021-12-06 18:08
1 reply
What makes you think that))
2021-12-06 19:17
#132
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Poland brochu
1.s1mple 2.zywoo 3.sh1ro 4.niko 5.hobbit 6.ax1le 7.electronic 8.ropz 9.device 10.stavn
2021-12-06 19:17
Only 1 of the old astralis there :(
2021-12-06 19:18
2 replies
:(( I want dupreeh and magisk back
2021-12-06 19:18
1 reply
Next year, out of dip (please please) and they’re into it
2021-12-06 19:19
#141
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Germany Matrixrl1
bit too high imo. he will be 10-15th
2021-12-06 20:19
2 replies
He won major and grand slam while also being a god
2021-12-07 19:25
1 reply
#154
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Germany Matrixrl1
but he joined full time in april and was only 6th player before that. he was good in the most important events but not every event hltv.org/stats/players/events/18987/b1t?..
2021-12-07 19:28
0/8
2021-12-06 20:26
niko above shiro, as he singlehandedly carried g2 to the finals and they wouldn't have made playoffs even if it wasn't for him maybe and bit seems a bit too high even though he is that good, he just didn't play the full year and what about jame but other than that it seems pretty good
2021-12-07 19:34
2 replies
#166
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Brazil Ties4
Sh1ro top 2, Niko top 3
2021-12-07 20:43
I'd put NiKo top 2 any day but shiro has online MVP's
2021-12-07 21:00
#158
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United States GiantDays
i will be top1
2021-12-07 19:37
#165
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Brazil Ties4
Sh1ro top 2.
2021-12-07 20:42
2 replies
Onliner doesn't deserve
2021-12-07 21:01
1 reply
#181
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Brazil Ties4
Nah he is definitely the second most insane this year.
2021-12-07 21:43
#172
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Portugal cyn1cal
stavn kekw
2021-12-07 21:02
5 replies
Didn't know who else to put there
2021-12-07 21:03
4 replies
#175
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Portugal cyn1cal
s1mple zywoo sh1ro niko hobbit ax1le ropz jame elec twistzz/hunter
2021-12-07 21:07
3 replies
Twistzz didn't do anything this year
2021-12-07 21:09
2 replies
#177
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Portugal cyn1cal
still, good ratings, average 1.13 this year, like elec
2021-12-07 21:10
#178
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Portugal cyn1cal
oh shit, i forgot about dev1ce, put him in twistzz place
2021-12-07 21:10
-8/8
2021-12-07 21:12
1 reply
God ZywOo owns shiro
2021-12-07 21:21
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