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2.13 rating lol
Albania yovitemeemili 
This guy is smurfing tier 1
2021-12-02 19:53
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AWP is balanced btw
2021-12-02 19:53
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how many awpers get 2.13 rating after a map? and he doesnt awp on t side at all
2021-12-02 19:54
6 replies
Wow he didnt awp for 4 rounds amazing
2021-12-02 19:54
2 replies
add first 5,6 on ct side also
2021-12-02 19:54
You are so desperately trying to discredit him, lmao.
2021-12-02 21:20
It's not rly about how many awpers get a 2.13. It's about how many teams face such an inconsistent team starting on t side.
2021-12-02 19:54
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well u can say whatever you want there are 5 teams ranked higher on the planet than nip and one of them is vitality so he plays against his top 5 opponent
2021-12-02 19:56
this, my man, got facts +1
2021-12-02 19:54
+1, zywoo is just an awp abuser
2021-12-02 19:54
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#87
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United States Rayduh
you serious or trolling
2021-12-02 20:47
#89
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United States Rayduh
if s1mple awp abuser then so is s1mple and sh1ro give hltv top 5 to 1. EliGE 2. NiKo 3. electronic 4. Twistzz 5. Hobbit
2021-12-02 20:48
6 replies
twistzz above hobbit ??? loool
2021-12-02 20:48
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#98
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Spain Sebox
I mean twistzz has more fire power than hobbit theres nothing new there
2021-12-02 21:06
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#121
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Europe Y1J1NG
electronic number - nothing new if check stats
2021-12-02 21:46
hate to bring it to you but we would see s1mple and zywoo up there on the rifle as well lmao
2021-12-02 21:22
#124
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Europe Y1J1NG
Elige with only 1.16 for 2021? LOL
2021-12-02 21:50
Elige over Niko? Oh my lord, what delusion
2021-12-02 22:12
I think in faceit or MM awp really is broken but not broken at pro level where people have good teamwork and good utility usage.
2021-12-02 19:55
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i.imgur.com/SxbZS8F.jpg i.imgur.com/7na53eT.jpg 74% entry success on tier 1 yeah really tough =S
2021-12-02 19:56
3 replies
That's because of the broken ass crouch peak haha.
2021-12-02 19:57
you know this is opening kill stats and not entry stats right? like, it counts duels they take against entrying players and of course the awp has advantage on that
2021-12-02 20:06
if you think awp is so op, why dont every team use double awp or 5 awps when they can
2021-12-02 22:19
awp isnt broken if you know awpers peeks you can counter him with flashes and smokes
2021-12-02 19:57
4 replies
Just know where the awper is at all times 4Head #25
2021-12-02 19:58
1 reply
not all the time kill him once or twice and he probably doesnt have it too many rounds on ct side where it does more damage t sides awps are not op,and are most of the time useless
2021-12-02 19:59
flashes are useless because hes gonna play anti flash or have a teammate play anti flash.
2021-12-02 19:59
1 reply
u cant play anti flash all te time u need to watch an angle also,because guy can walkout and kill u for free and he cant have bodyguard 2 minutes every round
2021-12-02 20:04
most of his kills were not with awp but sure
2021-12-02 20:01
11 replies
ZywOo Most AWP kills 15 Cope
2021-12-02 20:02
10 replies
so 50% of his kills were with awp and that is somehow awp abusing
2021-12-02 20:03
9 replies
Yeah he won the game on CT side and had 15 of the 20 kills on CT with the AWP That isn't awp abusing for you?
2021-12-02 20:04
8 replies
no cuz simple will have 25+ awp kills in a map that is awp abusing 15 kills isnt that much for a map
2021-12-02 20:06
6 replies
They both AWP abuse, I actually agree s1mple does it more but 15 out of 20 kills is still AWP abusing stop coping
2021-12-02 20:07
5 replies
its 15 out of 29 why do u ignore his t sides
2021-12-02 20:09
4 replies
Because it's 12x3 on inferno lol the game's over, he singlehandedly won the game by awp abusing on CT side
2021-12-02 20:10
3 replies
well we saw how devices awp did so much
2021-12-02 20:13
how do you explain zywoo getting so many kills on nuke where he has games where he doesnt even pick up the awp once... m4a1s abusing? crosshair abusing?
2021-12-02 21:24
Somehow device with good awp did shit beside 1 for 1 trades
2021-12-02 22:15
he won the game in that deagle round, so......
2021-12-02 21:21
tell that to device
2021-12-02 20:41
Maybe everyone should try to awp to get top 1 hltv 2 years in a row? Why didn't they? hmm
2021-12-02 21:06
awp isnt broken zywoo is
2021-12-02 21:19
tell me youre silver without telling me youre silver...
2021-12-02 21:28
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youtube.com/watch?v=1ubRrpeMrIM&t=153s True, me, huNter, f0rest all silvers S1mple calling it easiest weapon in the game also silver Cope dog
2021-12-02 21:57
4 replies
yeh forest the guy who failed as a top tier awper and had to swap back to rifling to be even somewhat relevant, hunter the guy who doesnt use it, s1mple the guy who was the best player in the world before and after using it. appeals to authority arent your best bet. also these 3 arent exactly known as the smartest csgo players let alone people...
2021-12-02 22:07
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD TOO FUNNY KKKKKKKKKK Random dog AWP abuser thinks he knows more than me (150+ IQ), the GOAT of the CS franchise, the top 1 AWP abuser in the world, and a tier 1 rifler Always amusing to see delusional people, keep it up so I can laugh more \/
2021-12-02 22:34
1 reply
ive taught 10 year olds smarter than you.
2021-12-03 00:09
fr idk why you think this. the awp being op hasnt been a serious discussion since like 2015, l2p son.
2021-12-02 22:10
#2
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Norway Balta69
Who?
2021-12-02 19:53
3 replies
zygod
2021-12-02 19:54
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#15
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Norway Balta69
Nice
2021-12-02 19:54
Zywho
2021-12-02 19:57
nip tier 1? no way
2021-12-02 19:53
3 replies
they are ranked 6th in the world
2021-12-02 19:54
2 replies
by accident 💀💀💀
2021-12-02 19:54
1 reply
i dont know by what it is how it is
2021-12-02 19:55
ez
2021-12-02 19:53
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zywgod
2021-12-02 19:54
> nip > tier1
2021-12-02 19:53
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nip tier 1
2021-12-02 19:55
>NiP >tier 1 pick one
2021-12-02 19:53
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nip tier 1
2021-12-02 19:55
nip is not tier 1
2021-12-02 19:55
2 replies
6th team in the world
2021-12-02 19:57
1 reply
doesn’t mean anything when 1, 2, and 3 are so far and away compared to everyone else
2021-12-02 20:40
I want him to win this tournament and get MVP
2021-12-02 19:55
5 replies
who is going to stop him? gambit only
2021-12-02 19:58
4 replies
Yes, maybe heroic but rather not
2021-12-02 20:00
3 replies
heroic lost to godsent
2021-12-02 20:01
2 replies
Ok nevermind haha
2021-12-02 20:01
1 reply
xD
2021-12-02 20:02
This guy never fails to amaze me lmao
2021-12-02 19:55
2 replies
iem fall
2021-12-02 19:58
1 reply
What?
2021-12-02 19:58
>NiP >tier 1 pick one
2021-12-02 20:02
1 reply
nip tier 1
2021-12-02 20:03
AHAHA...vs sh1t team in sh1t tournament! CHECK BLAST Premier Fall Final 2021 first match: hltv.org/matches/2352817/natus-vincere-v.. s1mple - 1.50 zywoo - 0.91 second match: hltv.org/matches/2352820/natus-vincere-v.. s1mple - 1.49 zywoo - 1.27 STILL 0 TROPHIES!
2021-12-02 20:05
29 replies
yes lets ignore that electronic was in 1.6 rating and zywgod had faceit lvl 5 players
2021-12-02 20:07
4 replies
s1mple has played with worse players all his career and has been much more stable! Flamie, siezd, zeus, Guardian, edward.
2021-12-02 20:10
3 replies
stable than what zywoo still delivers 1.3 rating for a year simple didnt have that in 2016,17
2021-12-02 20:12
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2021-12-02 20:13
in 2019, s1mple gave awp to Guardian and was close in statistics without AWP! in 2020, Was better statistically in ELITE EVENTS, won the biggest LAN tournament of the year and was just brazenly robbed! ELITE EVENTS 2020: hltv.org/stats?startDate=2020-01-01&endD.. hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=20.. And in 2019, I didn't complain here that NAVI has a shitty team...how are the zywoo fans complaining now! and this year s1mple is light years ahead!
2021-12-02 20:51
cis brain. Zywoo was beating simple in h2h most of the matches where both navi and vitality were struggling for the top1 in 2019 and 2020. He also had better stats and more kills on s1mple himself in head2head matches. S1mple started to get better stats than zywoo only when navi started dominating, which is an obvious effect. Zywoo is still better and he never had a team that could dominate like navi can.
2021-12-02 20:09
22 replies
s1mple played with the worst teammates and statistically was close in 2019! and in 2020, just robbed! zywoo isn't even close this year!
2021-12-02 20:13
1 reply
Dumb that's what you are :)
2021-12-02 22:17
+1
2021-12-02 20:15
#75
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
typical zywho fan brain. h2h is not at all an* indicator on who a better player is. Ofc zywho gets more kills when he's constantly baiting his rookies. As usual HLTV creating excuses but in the end the W is what matters and s1mple being the better player prepares against the entire team while zywoo prepares only for s1mple out of fear. edit: typo
2021-12-02 20:15
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what did i just read. Yea its not an argument on its own, but its another observation that s1mple shits the bed vs zywoo and it was clearly visible in 2019 and 2020. Now navi is superior in every way, he just has to do his job and people think that he is somehow magically better or has improved massively, which hasnt happened obviously. Zywoo was and still is the better player, but i dont have time to prove it for people here in hltv :D If you dont see it, if you dont see the kills, the brains, the incomparable gamesense, the things he can pull off under pressure, then i wont try to convince you. S1mple outdated, although he is ofc sick, i dont admire him anymore for a few years as there is nothing impressive in his game other than sick flickshots and mechanical skill.
2021-12-02 20:32
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#99
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/85980.. zywoo ahead by 1 kill hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/85948.. s1mple ahead by 2 kills hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/85400.. zywoo ahead by 5 kills (s1mple ahead against every other player while zywoo losing h2h vs Perfecto, b1t and elec) + s1mple was struggling to fully warmup on CT side Dust2 hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/84003.. zywoo again only ahead by 1 kill hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/82652.. s1mple ahead by 3 kills after having a rough start warming up on overpass hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/78908.. again s1mple ahead in h2h by a kill s1mple and zywoo literally have the same amount of times they beat each other in h2h this year and you can make excuses for both players. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about "s1mple shits the bed vs zywoo" gtfo of here with that trash observation. when zywoo has a better team, his ratings will drop significantly and he will have less and less h2h duels with s1mple mark my words and he still won't win anything other than smaller tournaments and nothing like Cologne, World Finals, Katowice and a Major because zywoo always chokes in these events. Also talking about 2020 like not every player was struggling in online era
2021-12-02 21:06
11 replies
i disagree with you in most points. I am sure i know what im talking about. S1mple has the team, zywoo never had. Zywoo operates in chaos, s1mple is just a better version of device - a sick awper in a good system (nowadays - a perfect navi system). I've made an analysis video before, i could go on for hours about this, but lets agree to disagree as i dont have time for that (sadly :D)
2021-12-02 21:18
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#115
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
you realise navi's system has been absolute dogshit for the last 4 years before this? the very system that they were forced to finally change this year. Yet s1mple has maintained top 5 status the entire time. "operates in chaos" LMFAO another delusional remark from a zywho fan. every analyst, caster, host, player, TO and hell even non-cs players know s1mple is the GOAT and is uncontested when it comes to the best player in the world ever. Just seems to be zywho fans who can't seem to accept that zywho will never come close.
2021-12-02 21:27
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no. The fact that navi "system" wasnt working perfectly doesnt mean that s1mple wasnt being put in comfortable positions throughout all the years in navi. If you want s1mple without navi playing for him, check those: i.redd.it/spqke9qyzz641.jpg and pistols (the least team-based rounds) i.gyazo.com/6b42702aea7996ac25e821edb395.. 2021 i.gyazo.com/a30c7945e6ac010f0108724c3c8e.. 2020 i.gyazo.com/b571381d998144d035010ae3daeb.. 2019 I wont elaborate further, i would but i dont have time
2021-12-02 21:38
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#123
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
omfg as if you literally just used pistol rounds and fpl as an indicator now, pistol rounds... which are literally considered the most coin flip rng of rounds in CS... also zywoo has some of the lowest amount of matches played in FPL compared to the others on those lists who play like 5 games of it a day to relax...
2021-12-02 21:49
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lol you could have tried to convince me those dont have importance, but this is just a straight cope. Couple hundred matches is enough of a sample, doesnt matter s1mple played 2x more, 51% vs 65% winrate. Pistol rounds - hundreds of pistol rounds in 2019, hundreds of pistol rounds in 2020, hundreds of pistol rounds in 2021. Yep, thats surely a coin flip, total rng.
2021-12-03 04:37
You seem like a decent user. I would like to debate you on this, since I too know what I'm talking about, and my opinion is exactly the opposite of yours for a variety of reasons, and it aligns with what other analysts and pros have said. ZywOo is like a perfect test-taker, who makes the perfect decisions and answers perfectly. s1mple is an artist who goes for those kinds of answers, that you didn't even know were allowed or possible (YnK gave this analogy). Both ace the tests in their own way. s1mple has been making unstoppable aggressive plays throughout his career, playing in super chaotic lineups like hellraisers, flipside, liquid, and finally Navi, carrying all of them to major playoffs. s1mple never played within a system. Anyone who has watched CS for 5 years or more, could see that. His teams may have had a good individual (like electronic), but Navi strats, tactics, etc, were totally underwhelming. In all the toxic, chaotic environments, s1mple has hard-carried in unimaginable ways in the past. He has literally has gone for plays that nobody in history ever had (his graffiti play). So, saying s1mple is like a sick device, who is the embodiment of a system player, makes no sense. In this video, Karrigan explains it: youtu.be/A8XFEfD-4aE Actually, I can link tons of top pros and analysts videos who say that s1mple thrives in chaos, and takes over the game in a way that can't be replicated, because it follows no rules of CS.
2021-12-02 21:35
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those days of s1mple playing like this are loooooooooooooooooong gone. Those times i was of course a big fan of s1mple. Nowadays I watch navi games and its boring, feels like astralis winning during astralis era (its actually more enjoyable but still). But navi aside, its very simple for me - i am a fan of whoever is doing something extraordinary. I'm not a fan just cause i like the player. I like the player, cause im a fan of what he is capable of. Zywoo the most, but even niko or k0nfig, m0nesy, torzsi, sh1ro, hobbit, yekindar. They all could be an inspiration for me. S1mple doesnt really show me anything that leaves me in shock. His game understanding and tier 1 experience, positioning, its all insane, but... device had that too and no1 was really a big fan of that. Guess why, he wasnt doing anything flashy. And although s1mple flickshots might be impressive, they arent impressive for me anymore, there is not a lot that is out of this world anymore and you know, i would like to enjoy watching him but i simply don enjoy him THAT much and I am real csgo enthusiast. Ive played on quite a high level in teams and i really am confident that i know a lot of technicalities about cs and pro play. I see mouse movements of zywoo that are unseen by any other pro. Tight peek deagle kill on door nuke vs Astralis or the way he peeks silo and shoots with awp using his movement and instantly turns back strafing backwards into secret stairs, avoiding refrag from outside. The 1vs3 efortless clutch in the grand final with 14 bullets. I can see that he can readjust his tracking so fucking fast that there is literally nobody in the pro cs world that can do this so efortless and so consistent. He is literally one of the most precise players yet hes so fast and loose while turning around corners. The mechanical ability of zywoo leaves s1mple far far behind. S1mple is only good with his mouse, he cant do any advanced moves. Despite strafe stats from lets say leetify, s1mple movement while shooting is also nowhere near to zywoos level, this is very visible when zywoo goes aggresive with awp and is always ready to shoot in the moment of counter strafe. S1mple is very static and he also has way more room for mistakes and manouvers. Zywoo is often holding everything solo, examples: solo banana hold with no support on CT overpass, solo A site holds on Dust 2 CT, solo A short holds on inferno CT. Dont even get me started on entryfragging... s1mple has good entry stats just cause hes an excellent awper in a well rounded team built for him. He almost never entries and raraly is put in tough situations, zywoo has to take map control solo, zywoo has to entry during executes and he can actually do it all on a level that is top1 in the world. Also... while maintaining better stats than s1mple (not this year finally, navi is too powerful and of course team winning/losing highly affects stats, but this thing you probably know, youre not stupid). I could go on for long, but lets also say that zywoo is the best clutcher in the game. You can disagree of course :D But his decision making is uncomparable for me. Maybe xyp9x is on his level, but lets not compare these two, different players, different skillset. As for what the pros are saying.... yea, everyone is praising s1mple currently, what a surprise. It just happens that a year or 2 ago, there were videos asking pros whos better, and pros were in favor of zywoo. They were saying very similar things to those you can hear in dexerto video. There is nothing that has drastically changed in the skillset of those 2, just the environment for s1mple is now sick. He even played better in 2020 than in 2021 imo. also you can check #120
2021-12-03 05:10
i mean some of my arguments might be not too solid, but its really too hard to pour it down quickly and without actually analysing and comparing it all in a few hours long video. Also many many other aspects like his unreal composure (ever since he joined vita as a total rookie and was already smashing on lans), he is really unshaken in any clutch scenario, even though he sometimes makes mistakes ofc. His attitude... its unheard of in the pro scene. There is actually no other player that truly has no ego and who is so cheerful. He is praised by all of his teammates, he never tilts. Like think about it - zywoo never tilted on cam. He is always concentrated. There are so many mental aspects that just add to him being the most impressive player for me. Whereas we have s1mple on the other side, yea he matured a lot but hes still a whiny bitch in fpl and hes still a bit cocky, which is a way to appeal to many people and many people like it and understand his persona and i am not against him, but there is a line that he often crosses and its just another of those things that inherently make me feel less impressed by him than by zywoo
2021-12-03 05:34
he doesn't choke actually, s1mple has one of the biggest choking mentality in entire pro scene, no matter how good he is
2021-12-02 21:20
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#117
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
yes that is why he has every single big tournament win including a grandslam. classic hltv ctrl+c ctrl+v user who can't form his own opinions.
2021-12-02 21:28
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Does my opinion have something to say about s1mple's strenght and skill? Im not denying he's god tier player, i'm just saying that most of the times he crumbles when the pressure is super high, he proved that so many times
2021-12-02 21:34
Lmao no, that's a statistical lie. In 2020, the Head 2 Head was 116-111 in s1mple's favour. You have extreme recency bias because of that Dust2 map on major. Also, B1T has rekt zywoo every match in Head 2 Head duels recently. And he did it with pistols/rifles. So, that means B1t is better than Zywoo in every way, using your logic. Both individually as well as in achievements, B1T has outdone zywoo lmao, using your logic.
2021-12-02 20:19
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ok, you got me there, but i really wasnt trying to put this as my main argument. I just noticed so many times that s1mple was really quiet in 2019 and 2020 in h2h. I remember many matches where s1mple was nowhere to be seen, but maybe in 2020 things have already started to shift as navi was getting stronger and stronger. Can you tell me how did you get the head2head kills vs each other comparison for whole 2020? it would be really useful for me btw i can make a whole analysis and videos (which ive already made in the past) about comparing them and why zywoo is better, but i really dont have the energy to do it here on hltv, so i wont (i wrote a bit above in response to some other user) i would like to know how did you get these stats in head2head pls
2021-12-02 20:39
3 replies
Sure, when a match concludes, you can check the performance tab in detailed stats of the matchpage. You can see the Head 2 Head in openings, head 2 head on AWP, Head 2 Head overall, etc. Take out all the matches, do exactly this, and add up the tallies for all the maps. Edit: Head 2 Head duels is a very bad argument in a 5v5 game, by the way. The fact that b1t has easily won H2H against ZywOo in recent matches, proves that. H2H depends on a lot of factors like the player's positioning, the timing, the teamplay setting him up, the team dynamic at that point, the weapons the player has, etc. It's not a fair 1v1 aim-map. So, it doesn't make sense to compare that, in a team game.
2021-12-02 20:44
2 replies
so you went into every head2head match and added it by yourself? then i already knew this, thought there is a more effective way
2021-12-02 20:41
1 reply
Well, yeah xD
2021-12-02 20:43
Ok, and ur point cuz idk why did u posted these matches
2021-12-02 20:13
#50
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Turkey sedo7
1 map
2021-12-02 20:06
2 replies
2.13
2021-12-02 20:08
1 reply
#134
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Turkey sedo7
1.07
2021-12-02 22:43
Just cuz its the best gun it doesnt mean its OP u fucking silver
2021-12-02 20:06
1 reply
i didnt say it op wtf
2021-12-02 20:08
>NiP >tier 1 Biggest joke in december 2021
2021-12-02 20:06
2 replies
nip tier 1
2021-12-02 20:08
1 reply
lul
2021-12-02 20:08
#57
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Poland Hanse
0.97
2021-12-02 20:08
2 replies
2.13
2021-12-02 20:08
1 reply
#84
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Finland Kaljakka
S1mple 2.67
2021-12-02 20:43
#65
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Macedonia trashbait
>Es3tag >tier 1 pick one
2021-12-02 20:09
1 reply
es3tag
2021-12-02 21:04
Zywoo - lucky boy ( joke) )
2021-12-02 20:10
1 reply
lol
2021-12-02 21:07
Bruh, woxic is sending fiery greetings to you.
2021-12-02 20:39
6 replies
why w0xic dont understand
2021-12-02 21:04
5 replies
4 replies
lol against ago i said agains tier 1 team in title i think
2021-12-02 21:06
3 replies
Top 16 and top 17 teams, dude, wtf? Tier is not equal to top. Tier-1 teams participate at tier-1 tournaments (Katowice, Major, Cologne), and participants are top-20 teams, except the moments when there are qualifications for the tournament, where tier-3 teams can get a slot.
2021-12-02 21:16
2 replies
no tier 1 teams are guys in top 10 tier 2 is from 20-30 tier 3 is 30 and above
2021-12-02 21:18
1 reply
Strange, where have you left top 11-19 ? =D
2021-12-02 21:20
He decided he wants to shut up the haters who will say he doesn't deserve top 2 this year :D
2021-12-02 20:45
1 reply
he is god
2021-12-02 21:04
#91
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Finland Kaljakka
hltv.org/matches/2341576/natus-vincere-v.. Well s1mple 2.77 rating. So nothing special on zybott
2021-12-02 20:50
1 reply
lol comparing 6th in the world with 20+ team in the world
2021-12-02 21:04
1 reply
ez for god
2021-12-02 21:07
Es3tag can have the same rating if you combine rating of 4 matches
2021-12-02 21:23
2 replies
you mean add if you combine his rating would be even worse
2021-12-02 22:49
1 reply
Sadly u are right :(
2021-12-02 22:52
lol
2021-12-02 21:47
So many dumb s1mple fangirls in this damn thread lol Grow up frogs
2021-12-02 22:18
1 reply
lol
2021-12-02 22:48
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