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Best rifler of all time
SkippeR | 
Serbia ezforSKIPPER 
Its b1t. Who’s his biggest rival? NiKo? b1t accomplished more in 1 year than NiKo did in his whole career No doubt in my mind, the best rookie of all time, best rifler of all time one and only Valerii Vakhovskyi
2021-12-02 23:48
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Not even the best rifler on his team
2021-12-02 23:49
11 replies
who’s better? elec? 😬
2021-12-02 23:49
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#102
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United States amba01
yes, b1t is very good with his aim and good movement too but if he didnt have navi micro managing him then he wouldnt be t1, electronic brings so much more to the table
2021-12-03 00:20
7 replies
#166
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Mongolia heedblank
good take, also I think electronic is mechanically on the same level as b1t
2021-12-03 02:09
#197
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United Kingdom OllieUK
Honestly I have to question how much is Boombl4 doing for these young players. What are the chances 2 young players (B1t perfecto) come from no where and just dominate tier 1. I dont rate Boombl4 that much as an IGL but he must be doing something right with integrating these rookies
2021-12-03 13:49
5 replies
Blade's known for bringing up young talent to T1 very well as well.
2021-12-03 13:52
2 replies
yup s1mple said so himself. but lets give b1t some more time . i would love to see what happens when people start to counter Navi and when they start losing , how will b1t perform then. everyone is a star in a winning team . No doubt b1t capitalized on the Navi setup very well but lets what happens when this setup falls
2021-12-03 14:09
blade is honestly one of the best coaches of all time, not even joking. he took boombl4, someone that was supposed to come in as an entry fragger from an unknown team, perfecto, someone no one who didnt follow tier 999 cs knew, and b1t, an academy player into the best team in the world
2021-12-03 21:24
#259
b1t | 
United Kingdom Jemers
Yes Boombl4 holds B1Ts mouse hand and helps him headshot and he uses Perfectos keyboard when he is clutching
2021-12-04 01:11
#260
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United States amba01
boom is kind of like stewie, hes not some mastermind igl but hes got the right mind for it and he is very energetic, simple also calls a lot for navi, its like a combination of blade really good coaching, boom and simple midrounding and booms energy. simple is a good caller because he just has insane game sense, hes always rotating around the map on ct side in the perfect spot to get kills during an execute.
2021-12-04 01:14
+1 blad3 best rifler
2021-12-02 23:49
BOOM approves this message. 😁😁
2021-12-03 00:18
s1mple is the best rifler of all time then probably electronic but b1t is up there too already for sure
2021-12-02 23:49
62 replies
if s1mple was a rifler i can agree with you
2021-12-02 23:50
48 replies
when he play ak or m4 he's really strong
2021-12-02 23:56
47 replies
He is, but he was never a pure rifler like NiKo.
2021-12-03 00:01
46 replies
+1
2021-12-03 00:02
He doesn't have to be a pure rifler...he's better than niko at rifling. If s1mple was mainly a deagle player, he would still be a better rifler.
2021-12-03 00:06
31 replies
But how do you know bcs as I said, s1mple was never played as a pure rifler for you to take that assumption ?
2021-12-03 00:10
30 replies
Because we see still see him play rifle a lot...
2021-12-03 00:11
7 replies
But his best performanses came when he started awping tho. Before the switch he was never really in contention for a top 1 spot like in 2017 for example while Niko with an ak was, for the most part, considered as one of the best players in the world. S1mple is a better player than NiKo overall and their rifling is pretty equall, I'm not trying to say NiKo is way better, but I would give an edge to NiKo because he already proved to us he can be the best in the world with only an ak.
2021-12-03 00:17
6 replies
Absolutely not...his performances have always been out of this world regardless of the weapon. Like many pros have already said, he was never in contention for a top 1 spot because he never played in relevant teams before that. But keep in mind that s1mple made absolutely shit teams look very competitive...nobody in the history of cs was able to do that. S1mple has already proven to us that he was playing (with rifles) on a level that niko can only dream of. Saying their rifling is "almost equal" is an insult to s1mple.
2021-12-03 00:21
5 replies
#123
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Croatia ufsine
yea bro 100% 100%
2021-12-03 00:41
3 replies
He is the most delusional hltv user dont listen to him
2021-12-03 00:50
2 replies
#134
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Croatia ufsine
lmaoo did you see that he said he played the game professionally
2021-12-03 00:52
1 reply
he said he played vs zywoo ahah, i think he got rekt by him and now is a huge zywoo/Niko hater
2021-12-03 00:57
zywoo is doing the same rn, and still able to perform just a s1mple was doing a couple years back. im a s1mple fan as well(i shouldn't even have to say this because everyone should respect both) also in regards to niko vs s1mple. niko is a pure rifler and s1mple only uses ak when awp isn't available to him, you can't really compare them. from what i know, niko is better at rifling and s1mple is better at awping, mainly because they don't always use the other weapon unless it's really needed. you can for sure say that s1mple's rifling is better than niko's awp because s1mple is more likely to use a rifle than niko is to use the awp.
2021-12-03 22:52
#113
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
Wtf do you mean? He played as main rifle in the navi lineup with guardian that they won in New York with. These are his stats from the event XD hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?event..
2021-12-03 00:31
20 replies
Insane stats, but that was one event only.And guardian joined late 2019, s1mple still awped for the majority of the year.
2021-12-03 00:36
3 replies
#140
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
I’m talking about the lineup with seized edward flamie and guardian. You’re talking about a completely different one. Btw look at other events… s1mple has these insane stats no matter what role he plays
2021-12-03 00:56
2 replies
I know s1mple is an insane player but I would still rather have s1mple on an awp because he established himself as the goat using that weapon.
2021-12-03 01:11
1 reply
exactly. if you had s1mple and niko on the same team and had the choice between two ak's or one awp one ak, you would obviously take the option of one ak to give to niko and one awp to give to s1mple, they're just better than each other at their specific roles
2021-12-03 22:54
tbh funny how some clowns are trying to rewrite history. just because s1mple chos to play with awp doesn't mean he isn't MUCH BETTER than niko at rifling. He already proved it several times. It's like soon he gonna chose to play only rifle and people will say "oh yes s1mple best rifle ever but not best awp because he plays with ak more than awp"
2021-12-03 00:43
15 replies
hltv.org/stats/teams/players/4608/natus-.. s1mple 1.19 rating vs top 10 while entrying 19% of the times (and still had some AWP kills, and Krieg era) hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDa.. NiKo 1.32 rating vs top 10 while entrying 33% of the times Destroyed Did NiKo fuck your mother or what?
2021-12-03 00:46
14 replies
lol at having all time for one player and last 3 month for the other when both are filtered at all time, s1mple has 1.24 versus 1.13 Destroyed. Did niko fuck your mother and you liked that or what? don't lose your objectivity. Niko isn't even half as good as s1mple with rifle
2021-12-03 00:53
7 replies
"lol at having all time for one player and last 3 month for the other" ? No I don't, are you stupid? Still doesn't know how to use the HLTV stats page? I have the time that GuardiaN was in the lineup as primary awper (2 months) and NiKo's last 3 months. It says on top TIME FILTER do you not understand basic English? Try again cmon
2021-12-03 00:56
6 replies
xaxaxa nice try nonamer. Seems like you're not qualified to discuss this (and there's nothing to discuss really, s1mple smashes niko with rifle)
2021-12-03 00:56
4 replies
Expected reply, the pure tantrum of someone that just got embarrassed and is trying to cope Let me translate "LALALALALALAL I DONT CARE I DONT CARE LALALALA WHO CARES ABOUT FACTS SHUT UP IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM RIGHT 😭😭👶👶" Good dog 🐶 Keep bumping this thread please so people witness you getting embarrassed
2021-12-03 00:58
3 replies
how did you get that dog face?
2021-12-03 13:36
1 reply
try windows period, it should pull up some emojis and if you scroll down you should be able to see the dog emoji.
2021-12-03 22:57
hahaha good shit bro, you destroyed him and his reply had nothing to do with what you said lmao. i can just imagine his face when he realises you destroyed him 😂
2021-12-03 22:56
#145
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
S1mple awped as much as guardian at that time. He only played full rifle in the 2017 navi lineup after replacing zeus
2021-12-03 00:58
Facts never lie +1
2021-12-03 05:39
1 reply
#179 Facts indeed never lie.
2021-12-03 06:49
Actually, these are the stats from that 2019 period, when s1mple was a rifler: hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. Check his weapons distribution in that period: hltv.org/stats/players/individual/7998/s.. Rifle kills - 642, Pistol kills - 155, Sniper kills - 87 (including both AWP and scout). Rating - 1.28. Note: Not saying he is better than Niko, but he still had these stats in a new role, while primary rifling, playing with a 0.9 rated AWPer, and a new IGL
2021-12-03 06:51
3 replies
He did more kills with sg than ak or m4. Even T3 teams were able to outaim Faze (who only used ak/m4) back then and had long runs on T1 tournaments because holding angles with aug. Not saying he's bad with rifle, he's one of the best, like Zywoo, but NiKo is on another level on that matter, which is normal because is his main rifle.
2021-12-03 14:14
1 reply
True, but every team was using it, it wasn't just s1mple. Magisk and xyp9x were abusing it a lot. Team Liquid built their 2019 mini-era using their krieg, Fnatic became a Top team because of brollan and krmiz abusing it, etc. In the future if M4 gets nerfed, people might say all players are abusing M4-A1s, though the reality is that every team is using it. PS: I agree. Niko has trained his brain and muscles to be the absolute best rifler for all his life, so it's expected of Niko :)
2021-12-03 14:23
hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. Yes I know I filtered vs top 10 for both of them zzzzzzzzzzzzz I literally said "vs top 10 while entrying 19% of the times (and still had some AWP kills, and Krieg era)" and you link me the same thing without the filter?
2021-12-03 21:27
#221
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Korea ramza72
once s1mple playing rifle is deadly too that why most pros say s1mple is good with all weapon
2021-12-03 15:17
He's not saying he's a pure rifler. He's saying even though he's main AWP he's still better than Niko on rifles. Which I disagree with. My favourite rifler of all time is f0rest but I have to say Niko has been the best for a while imo.
2021-12-03 00:08
12 replies
The reason why I said it is because we don't know how well s1mple would perform if he was used as a pure rifler for a longer period of time.
2021-12-03 00:11
9 replies
What do you mean? he plays with rifle a lot..
2021-12-03 00:12
According to HLTV, in 2021, half of s1mple kills weren't even with the awp....so please...
2021-12-03 00:15
7 replies
#118
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Croatia ufsine
calm down bro and stop sucking his dick so hard for one second please...
2021-12-03 00:37
6 replies
I hate s1mple, but excuse me for being honest and objective enough to admit he's vastly superior.
2021-12-03 00:41
5 replies
#131
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Croatia ufsine
You hate s1mple but just hate NiKo way more i guess. No matter how you look at it s1mple is not a better rifler than NiKo. If you look at 2017, back when they were both riflers, NiKo was 2nd in the world according to Hltvs rankings while s1mple was 7th. I'm not saying NiKo is miles better than s1mple at rifeling, in fact far from it, they are about equal but NiKo has accomplished everything that he did while rifeling, while s1mple saw much better results when switching to the awp. s1mple is the better player no question about it just not the better pure rifeler.
2021-12-03 00:49
2 replies
No amtter how you look at it, s1mple is a much better rifler than Niko s1mple has almost always had better ratings than niko, while playing both awp and rifle..and like hltv has confirmed, he legit has better stats when playing with rifles :) s1mple is a better pure rifler, whether you agree or not, it's not even a question of appreciation.
2021-12-03 00:59
1 reply
Wrong #128 dont run away coward
2021-12-03 01:04
Oh fuck off we all know you're his biggest fanboy
2021-12-03 00:57
Lol nt you are his biggest fanboy.
2021-12-03 21:21
There's nothing to disagree with, I wasn't giving an opinion but a fact. S1mple with rifles is a lot better than Niko he even schooled niko at major final when playing pure rifle.
2021-12-03 00:12
1 reply
nice, what other facts you got for us?
2021-12-03 00:27
#52
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Croatia KeZual96
S1mlpe is the best player and awper in the world, but you can't really say he is the best rifler. I think that would be NiKo. Just watch his stats in the last three monts. All of that with a rifle hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-09..
2021-12-03 00:01
10 replies
nothing impressive lmao and yes, s1mple is objectively a better rifler than Niko. Whoever says different clearly ain't watching cs or doesn't know cs.
2021-12-03 00:04
9 replies
#84
NiKo | 
India Sishir
Lmao I've been seeing you hate NiKo across multiple threads now. You even said Zywoo is not a good player according to you. Do you really know the game at all? S1mple was rifling back at Liquid, a brief period in Navi and he wasn't even close to 2017-early 2018 NiKo with the rifle. Suck Navi's cock a little more Baguette, because you've just started and Navi is winning now. Go play minecraft newfag
2021-12-03 00:10
8 replies
I do know the game as I played it professionally. From a pure objective angle, S1mple has always been much better than Niko in every single aspect of the game. Go play casually, nonamer.
2021-12-03 00:10
6 replies
#95
NiKo | 
India Sishir
>Signed up in 2020 lmfaaaaooo >Played professionally Just what sort of a liar are you man? Just get a life dude. Lying in internet forums? what are you? 9? XD stop making a fool out of yourself kid.
2021-12-03 00:16
5 replies
Never said it was my professional account...
2021-12-03 00:17
4 replies
#120
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Croatia ufsine
yup he has 2 separate accounts 1 for being an idiot while knowing absolutely nothing about the game and 1 where he plays in Gold Nova 3 at a professional level
2021-12-03 00:40
3 replies
Men he's up for contention next major believ me. They win ez. Like fr this kid is praising s1mple as best rifler cause he's only watching navi matches. Ignores every other player but simps s1mple like he's being paid by him. 0.06 rating behind s1mple is NiKo with his rifler. You don't understand how insane that rating is
2021-12-03 06:32
2 replies
Niko holding W eating 30 nade damage and still playing up to that level, meanwhile s1mple always entering last/2nd last on T side
2021-12-03 20:12
1 reply
+ 6000 and s1mple just playing trades... this is hella true Imo with s1mples reactions, aim and kennys' agressive awping you'd have one of the best awpers ever. But sadly kennys can't perform as well rn but we still have a few matches to see kenny perform
2021-12-03 22:10
#108
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Dyrz
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2021-12-03 00:23
#119
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Algeria he_car
Delusional as always, but at least this time it aint as delusional as the time where you said boombl4 is a better igl than gla1ve and is the goat lol
2021-12-03 00:37
#266
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Indonesia FinZzz
Ah yes zeezeerax the delusional s1mple dcksucker
2021-12-04 05:15
Not even the best rifler on his team
2021-12-02 23:49
1 reply
2021-12-02 23:50
who?
2021-12-02 23:49
1 reply
your daddy b1t
2021-12-02 23:50
kRYSTAL
2021-12-02 23:49
1 reply
#217
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Australia zelt_cs
even krystal wouldn’t even say krystal
2021-12-03 14:28
#8
b1t | 
China Richoni
Biggest +1 in my life
2021-12-02 23:49
1 reply
ty🥰
2021-12-02 23:50
niko , elec
2021-12-02 23:50
23 replies
well b1t> both of them, talking about raw aim
2021-12-02 23:50
22 replies
man))) I'm a b1t fan, but this looks ridiculous)
2021-12-02 23:51
14 replies
its my opinion
2021-12-02 23:52
13 replies
ok Just keep in mind that NiKo has been in the pro scene for a long time, while b1t is only one year
2021-12-02 23:53
12 replies
and like i said, hm, b1t accomplished more in 1 year than NiKo did in his whole career 🤔
2021-12-02 23:53
7 replies
The only bigger accomplisment is major. NiKo 11 LAN trophies, 7 mvps, Top 11 2016, top 2 2017, top 3 2018, top 11 2019, top 4 2020 and most likely top 5 2021. Prob baiting but just in case you are not I wrote this for you.
2021-12-03 00:05
5 replies
niko in nearly 9 years: all those things you mentioned b1t in one year: 7 trophies ( 1 major and IGS ) top 6-7 2021(its impossible to have MVP when you have s1mple in your team, niko wouldnt have any if he played with goat for sure, so hmmmm i can only imagine what’ll happen in like 2,3 years 🤔
2021-12-03 00:19
4 replies
B1t is fortunate enough to play in a good system. Kind of like kyaerbye when he won everything at 18, even a major MVP but his career went into a downfall. Navi won't always be at the top and when the time comes b1t won't be as impressive while NiKo was carrying despite the circumstances he found himself in.
2021-12-03 00:19
3 replies
we cant know that for sure, but i respect your opinion and i look forward to see who’s right
2021-12-03 00:21
1 reply
Thank you for being respectful.
2021-12-03 00:23
I do agree with this - b1t has team accomplishments and not personal performance ones. Meanwhile NiKo has been ranked top 10 for years now consistently so imo with his experience and the personal achievements I'd say NiKo is better But ofc you can have your own opinion
2021-12-03 06:34
yes b1t 1v9 all who car noob s1mple noobfecto and noobtronic
2021-12-03 00:09
i do also believe like your that bit isnt on the list, but what you wrote basically proved his point across :)
2021-12-02 23:54
3 replies
idk xDD btw experience + aim NiKo>b1t
2021-12-02 23:55
smart albanian? whats this? endangered species?
2021-12-02 23:56
1 reply
gg serbian
2021-12-03 20:41
raw aim is not the only thing that matters when talking about who is the best. electronic has very good aim + all the experience in the world and much better game sense on top of it. b1t is great but as of right now he is not close to electronic
2021-12-02 23:52
6 replies
s1mple on his stream said that b1t has one of the best aim in the team, but if you compare it to experience, he does not have it
2021-12-02 23:54
3 replies
and nafany said himself that b1t is the best rifler in the world
2021-12-02 23:55
2 replies
Nafany also said "we play the same and without pressure even at the major in front of a crowd". We all know how that turned out.
2021-12-03 00:22
1 reply
top 4 on their first major ever? whats the problem? btw if they were playing in the other side of the bracket they’d reach finals i can bet my head on that
2021-12-03 00:24
he wouldnt be able to win a duel against b1t
2021-12-02 23:54
1 reply
Ok now that is just completely delusional
2021-12-02 23:55
Cringe
2021-12-02 23:51
9 replies
actually i’m gambit fan, im just saying facts
2021-12-02 23:51
8 replies
No matter whose team you are fan, you are cringous saying that b1t is the best rifler of all time. He has been playing only for 11 months. Although, if you are baiting, this of course can close all the questions.
2021-12-02 23:57
3 replies
11 months and still prooved that he’s better than all of them
2021-12-02 23:59
2 replies
Cringe
2021-12-03 00:03
he is a good player, but u cant just ignore the fact that he is playing with simple and electronic. IF he was put in Niko's shoes or to replace someone like Flamez on OG he wouldnt shine the way he shines on Navi.... Stop being ignorant and ur bait is 4/8
2021-12-03 14:15
magisk>>>>>b1t also won more than b1t will ever win dont be dumb man
2021-12-02 23:58
2 replies
magisk’s aim really cant compare to b1t’s and we’ll see about trophies also
2021-12-03 00:00
1 reply
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-12-03 00:03
even bigger cringe
2021-12-03 01:20
XANTARES
2021-12-02 23:54
6 replies
best rifler of t2 scene yes
2021-12-02 23:55
5 replies
tier 1 rifler. he would beat everyone in tier 1 believe me
2021-12-02 23:55
4 replies
he had his chance, he did nothing xD bottares
2021-12-02 23:57
3 replies
went to this shitty BIG clan. holy crap. how stupid you need to be
2021-12-02 23:59
1 reply
Xantares level of stupidity
2021-12-03 14:23
Look at Big now, they collapsed after xantares left. He is really good player and could play any T1 team
2021-12-03 00:01
b1t is not even the best rifler of 2021 #15
2021-12-02 23:55
1 reply
+1
2021-12-03 00:04
s1mple > zywoo > NiKo >b1t > electronic > NAF > yekindar > tenz > dapr > konfig
2021-12-02 23:56
4 replies
s1mple and zywoo not on the list cuz they arent awpers but i agree. so it leaves us with b1t>n1ko>elige>elec>yekindar>ropz
2021-12-02 23:58
3 replies
Did you not just watch elige? 0.34 rating or something, I would remove ropz his rifle is great but not impactful, too many chokes in many major tourneys
2021-12-03 00:06
1 reply
#252
ropz | 
United Kingdom ifshy
ropz is good just not so much as of recent
2021-12-04 01:03
Dude seriously? Elige over electronic??? 0/8 bait, reported.
2021-12-04 01:17
Scream
2021-12-02 23:56
#38
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Serbia Ljannister
NiKo, ropz and yekindar for my taste. NiKo overall. B1t is excellent but need to pass the test of time. His ratings are not that great to be called best rifler ever, he played very little matches.
2021-12-02 23:57
6 replies
yekindar? really? come one he was very good for a few games before teams figured him out but now he's just a pretty good entry, still very valuable for a team
2021-12-02 23:59
2 replies
best entry in the world currently, potential to be the best entry of all time if he continues to perform like this
2021-12-03 00:00
1 reply
barely playing one year and hasn't won much, still has to compete with niko (if you count him as entry) and apex/friberg, very hard to consider him best entry of all time even if he wins a major and a few tournaments considering these last 2
2021-12-03 00:03
New frog spotted
2021-12-03 01:15
1 reply
Yaas queen
2021-12-03 08:05
Yekindar you could make a case for top 3 rifler bow but no way of all time
2021-12-03 20:15
AHAHAHAH
2021-12-02 23:58
"No doubt in my mind, the best rookie of all time" thats 0/8 buddy...
2021-12-03 00:00
6 replies
its fax+he doesnt awp abuse
2021-12-03 00:02
5 replies
fact? cant wait for b1t top1 then...weak
2021-12-03 00:03
4 replies
warra major for zypoo
2021-12-03 00:05
1 reply
yea i was trolled, nvm...bye
2021-12-03 00:06
who gives a f about zywoo, we’re talking about the best rigler of all time
2021-12-03 00:06
1 reply
too bad that i didnt notice your nickname before my reply. ignore it and troll more...bye
2021-12-03 00:06
How fast you forgot xantares guys. He was destroying everyone. When he left big and created a new team you didn't even watch him.
2021-12-03 00:00
b1t > n1ko for sure
2021-12-03 00:01
#53
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Dude, B1t is great but chill it. I know it's bait but whatever. B1t isn't a star (yet at least), he is just a good supportive element. If you put him in NiKo shoes, in Ropz shoes, in Twistzz shoes, in Hunter shoes, etc he won't give you the 30 frags. As of right now he requires a good team performance to get those numbers
2021-12-03 00:01
11 replies
we cant proove that, cuz situation is different, he’s definetely second star in his team after the goat himself, and also he would do the same if not the better if we put him into shoes of those players that you mentioned
2021-12-03 00:04
1 reply
#81
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Electronic is the second star by far. He wouldn't do the same. It's way easier getting 25 frags when S1mple and Electronic got your back, when every team is worse than yours, and when your support is the best supporting player in the world, all fueled by a top5 coach. Now get him to NiKo's shoes, where he is carrying his team with a stand-in, having to call at the same time, compensating for a dead Awp every round, getting better stats than star Awpers. Do you really think a kid that is good at holding angles and never really shined as a star (YET) can do that
2021-12-03 00:08
B1t isn't a star? lel what? B1t is considered as the best rookie of all time already, and is one of the very very best players at big events....
2021-12-03 00:07
8 replies
ur crazy if u think that b1t is anywhere near as good as zywoo was as a rookie
2021-12-03 00:46
7 replies
Not me saying that, it's a consensu (although I agree) b1t is having a much better rookie year than zywoo, whether you agree or not. He's having a lot more impact and leading his team to win more trophies than Zywoo :) B1t is a very impactful player that changed everything for his team, whereas zywoo needed the team to perform for him to "perform". B1t is allowing the team to perform, huge difference. So is hltv right to call him best rookie ever? absolutely, from a pure objective angle. Also eye test doesn't lie, b1t is better.
2021-12-03 00:55
6 replies
Zywoo 2 top1 B1t how many top1? I forgot
2021-12-03 01:05
4 replies
How many big events did zywoo help his team to win? I forgot Not to mention zywoo's team allow him to perform, they play for him whereas b1t allow the team to perform, hes a play maker.
2021-12-03 01:09
3 replies
5
2021-12-03 01:13
2 replies
only 5 in 3 years? damn b1t made them win 7 already (8 with intel grand slam title) and that was him allowing the team to perform, very different than zywoo and vitality as vitality clearly needed the team to play for him. B1t's impact as a rookie is unprecedented
2021-12-03 01:18
1 reply
I wonder how many events b1t would win with washed up 30 year olds and maldpex
2021-12-03 01:19
He also has much better team than zywoo, he don't have to solo carry 4 people, B1t isn't even close to zywoo's rookie year. In terms of achievments - sure, he's doing much better because he's playing in fucking navi with s1mple and electronic, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to do the same with worse team. If he's so impactful and amazing, why they haven't win anything in navi junior? B1t, "young s1mple" aka monesy and same structures as in navi. It should be enough to dominate academy teams.
2021-12-03 13:53
W
2021-12-03 00:02
by your logic device would be the best player of all time then because he has the most accomplishments lol
2021-12-03 00:04
4 replies
+1
2021-12-03 00:05
no, cuz his skill isnt even close to s1mple’s, but b1t’s aim is better than all of the competition
2021-12-03 00:05
2 replies
his skill is not comparable to nikos lol niko post way better stats and it helps b1t that he plays with the teammates that he has it boost his perfomance niko solo carried his team to major finals lol
2021-12-03 00:07
1 reply
#172
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Mozambique CRMN1
I'm telling you bro most of these guys saying B1T is the best of all time are the same people who said device's accomplishments didn't overshadow s1mple's individual skill. I fkn love b1t but he still has a long road ahead to be within contention for the greatest rifler of all time.
2021-12-03 05:53
#66
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Latvia Gr1ngo_8k
The biggest cringe of all time
2021-12-03 00:05
#72
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Sweden BengisK
by your logic xizt > niko because xizt major winner lol. electronic better than b1t historically anyways. b1t needs more time to prove consistency.
2021-12-03 00:06
1 reply
He is baiting I guess. If not, then it scary.
2021-12-03 00:08
shox
2021-12-03 00:06
2 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/1225/shox lul idk i think not bro
2021-12-03 00:13
1 reply
b1t's average rating is 0.04 higher and hes been playing most of his career at tier like 4, while shox has been here for 9+ years always at the top level.
2021-12-03 13:00
Scream. Closed.
2021-12-03 00:07
#90
sh1ro | 
Namibia _aki
TenZ BatChest
2021-12-03 00:12
#93
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Denmark dogwater_
NiKo coldzera up there as well
2021-12-03 00:14
#103
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
NEO
2021-12-03 00:20
B1T accomplished to get carried by simple, they wouldnt have won without simple and navi would have won with flamie either way
2021-12-03 00:21
5 replies
lel... b1t is a playmaker, best rookie of all time and navi wouldn't have won with flamie at all. there's a reason if b1t is one of the very very best players at big event this year. This kid is DOMINATING
2021-12-03 00:28
2 replies
best rookie of all time? ever heard of zywoo? The guy who got top 1 over simple during his first year?
2021-12-03 14:24
1 reply
he is an annoying s1mple fanboy that keeps using thorin as an argument to claim his statements most of the time, peak delusion, dont argue with him.
2021-12-03 21:24
Dumbest comment in the whole thread. Flamie was inconsistent AF and no where near b1t's level.
2021-12-03 01:14
1 reply
the point was that whether bit got 3 or 30 frags it was simple to win the major
2021-12-03 14:24
for sure karrigan
2021-12-03 00:32
best rifler of all time? coldzera. why coldzera? cuz' 14 lan titles, 2 major mvp, 2 top 1 hltv, best eSports Player by The Game Awards, infinite MVP's
2021-12-03 00:33
3 replies
also the shortest player and player who got 16-0'd the most,mustn't forget those accomplishments
2021-12-03 00:43
2 replies
LOOL
2021-12-03 06:42
LMAO XD
2021-12-03 15:13
Dude b1t is awesome but u really compare him to the best rifler ever NiKo???
2021-12-03 00:34
1 reply
Niko isn't even top 5 riflers. Electronic, Dupreeh, B1t, Shox, all had higher ceiling.
2021-12-03 00:41
#121
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Algeria he_car
Top 3 goat riflers imo 1- NIKo 2- dupreeh 3- electronic
2021-12-03 00:40
f0restw0w~
2021-12-03 00:43
Must be seized
2021-12-03 00:48
XANTARES
2021-12-03 00:51
objectively: 1. S1mple 2. Electronic 3. Dupreeh 4. Zywoo 5. ?
2021-12-03 00:53
1 reply
>objectively >s1mple top1, no niko Choose one.
2021-12-03 13:45
Marcelo “coldzera” David
2021-12-03 00:55
prime dupreeh prime cold prime rain prime niko prime elec
2021-12-03 00:57
Kyle Rittenhouse
2021-12-03 00:58
f0rest, end discussion.
2021-12-03 01:05
1 reply
+1
2021-12-03 01:11
simo häyhä
2021-12-03 01:07
1 reply
simo is a pure sniper though...
2021-12-03 23:50
#157
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Italy 21Mercer
1. Niko 2. Dupreeh 3. Electronic 4. Coldzera 5. Elige
2021-12-03 01:15
4 replies
great list
2021-12-03 01:18
+1
2021-12-03 01:33
#167
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Algeria he_car
+1
2021-12-03 02:18
+1
2021-12-03 05:27
Kyle Rittenhouse /thread
2021-12-03 01:36
3 replies
Lmao you ever seen great riflers cry after getting kills? Honestly you don’t have to be such a butch bout getting a single multi kill
2021-12-03 13:19
2 replies
That was a compelling sequence of words.
2021-12-03 23:43
1 reply
thank u frend
2021-12-04 00:47
1. Niko 2. Forest 3. Dupreeh 4. Electronic 5. Elige Honorable mention - Coldzera Niko is obviously the best but Forest is just too cold to list the others above him. Even at 31 or whatever he is now his mechanics are just so fucking nice. A lot of people would say Cold is too low but to me he's like a premature ejaculation. He was really good early but he fell off pretty hard and despite the absolute excellence of those two years I need more from the dude before I'm going to put him above players that have been top 20 for like 4-5-6 years running.
2021-12-03 05:40
3 replies
+1
2021-12-03 06:40
#201
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
+1
2021-12-03 13:53
why everyone acting like 31 is old? your reactions don't really decrease by that much the only thing that makes older players lose interest and drive to be top tier level is because it is a fucking pc game and not a real sport
2021-12-04 03:31
#171
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Mozambique CRMN1
The lack of criteria always amazes me. I remember the same NAVI fans and others (not to sound like I hate NAVI lmao) who always said device wasn't the GOAT because his achievements didn't overshadow s1mple's individual skill are in big part the same people who say B1T is the best rifler of all time because he won the major and the grand slam. That raises another question, who do you consider the GOAT of CS:GO? If you say s1mple, the hypocrisy is unreal.
2021-12-03 05:49
0/8
2021-12-03 06:39
semphis, duh
2021-12-03 06:48
in my opinion is between niko and electronic. But i may be biased torwards electronic because i fell in love w csgo all over again when i saw him and s1mple carry back then
2021-12-03 06:48
#182
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France HippzZ
Forest Shox Niko
2021-12-03 06:50
niko
2021-12-03 08:06
b1t_1_major_NiKo_0_major
2021-12-03 13:20
#188
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Brazil infatico
If is in the prime era, COLDZERA IS THE BEEAST
2021-12-03 13:26
b1t aimwise is a fucking robot. no joke he might have the best aim at the moment.
2021-12-03 13:27
GeT_RiGhT in his prime form
2021-12-03 13:27
1 reply
xd
2021-12-04 00:48
yeah b1t is best rifler of all time easy
2021-12-03 13:28
So much bait from newfags Best of all time clearly GTR followed by forest. Peak I would say niko. Not the fat one.
2021-12-03 13:36
NEO <3
2021-12-03 13:41
zywoo
2021-12-03 13:47
GOAT_RIGHT or forestGOD
2021-12-03 13:51
#200
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
0/8 both BOAT and GOAT rifler is niko
2021-12-03 13:52
2 replies
#205
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Brazil arunino
B1T 1 major ChoKo 0 major
2021-12-03 14:08
1 reply
#224
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
0/8
2021-12-03 19:34
FalleN
2021-12-03 14:04
#204
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Brazil Nicolito
All time CSGO? NiKo, Coldzera, Rain, Electronic, Ropz, GeT_RiGhT
2021-12-03 14:07
0/8 cringe
2021-12-03 14:10
Cold, F0rest, EliGE, NiKo, S1mple, Dupreeh honorable mentions: Fer, Rain, Shox, GTR, ElektroniK, Twistzz, Magisk
2021-12-03 14:12
f0rest, tabsen, niko, i dont know, some one who is in the game for a looong time.
2021-12-03 14:17
Niko, K0nfig and blameF are the best riflers, closed.
2021-12-03 14:19
in game rn: niko elige electrionic refresh and b1t all time : niko dupreeh magisk coldzera electronic
2021-12-03 14:32
1 reply
refrezh wtf
2021-12-03 22:14
Why the fuck b1t fans have to be this fucking retarded??Seriously how can you not notice how much of a dumbass you are?
2021-12-03 15:36
A rifler has to be an expert at spraying I don't think NiKo is considered as an expert at spraying
2021-12-03 15:38
#225
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Other M4NLY
Bit,xantares,niko,electronic
2021-12-03 20:01
#229
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Europe 0only1
Of all time? Must be able to clutch with rifle Must be able to spray down multiple targets with spray transfer Must have insane 1 tap 2 tap. Must have won titles Must have been playing over a very long period of time Must have been superstar player of his team Must have dominated the scene to some extend Therefore, it would have to be someone between Shox, forest, get_right, dupreeh, snax, electronic, flusha. Honorable mention Scream, Niko, s1mple s1mple not mainly rifler, but has been proven as one as well Niko not enough trophies Scream for his iconic playstyle.
2021-12-03 21:19
#233
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United States kalimbo
NEO
2021-12-03 21:25
Best rifler of all time? Between NiKo and shox imo. If G2 actually get a team worthy of how good NiKo is then it'll be NiKo for sure. Calling b1t the goat rifler is like the logical extreme of calling zywoo the goat player, they're getting there but there's just not enough sample size. With b1t he's literally played like 3 LANs or something and has been in T1 for less than a year. There's a lot more going into being a goat than just raw aim, most of all it's about consistency over a long period, which b1t hasn't had purely because he hasn't been in T1 for a long period
2021-12-03 22:21
1 reply
this is bait u know?!
2021-12-04 01:07
f0rest
2021-12-03 22:59
> all time > rookie who's played like 6 months for navi.
2021-12-03 23:04
#246
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Brazil ovomexido
Coldzera is the best rifler of all time
2021-12-03 23:50
1 reply
xd
2021-12-04 01:04
Na'Vi effect. B1t cant do anything in the any other teams
2021-12-04 00:54
Any answer that isn't Niko/Electronic or Dupreeh/Magisk is just wrong let's be real. An argument can be made Elige/Twistzz
2021-12-04 00:59
3 replies
magisk no dupreeh no only elec or niko and tbh elec neither
2021-12-04 01:03
2 replies
I had an aneurysm trying to read this reply
2021-12-04 02:01
1 reply
nice die in agony
2021-12-04 03:28
niko hands down
2021-12-04 01:02
#255
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Finland Lindeni
You got everything wrong. NiKo is a better rifler and ZywOo is still a better rookie than B1t. /closed
2021-12-04 01:07
NiKo > elec > S1mple(rifle) > B1t
2021-12-04 01:08
I love navi and i love b1t, but i dont like braindead people like you
2021-12-04 01:09
In russia say valera your time!
2021-12-04 02:10
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