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CSGO needs a T sided map
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Croatia Momaq 
hopefully the next map change will be -nuke or -vertigo and they put in a t sided map would be great so atleast 1 map is t sided
2021-12-03 15:42
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I thought dust 2 were t-sided
2021-12-03 15:42
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Croatia Momaq
not after the change imo
2021-12-03 15:44
D2 is far from T sided now
2021-12-03 15:50
This last map update changed entire map. Before You couldnt push lower without smoke or getting spotted. Right now You can do whatever You want as a CT and You save at least 1 smoke every single round because You dont have to smoke mid anymore. Its CT sided now
2021-12-03 16:25
lol inferno is mostly t sided. Vertigo mostly t sided.
2021-12-03 15:43
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I don't feel the same dude
2021-12-03 15:46
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1/2 because it depends on skill level. When your skill level is low you will always play bad for T since it needs more brain than just sitting on good positions like CT's do.
2021-12-03 16:17
2/2 just look at how pros play this maps, it gives you best stat about how T or CT sided map is.
2021-12-03 16:18
#45
catgirl | 
Europe r41
inferno most ct map ever
2021-12-03 16:34
20 replies
+1
2021-12-03 16:37
#47
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Romania Horia_Sima
train
2021-12-03 16:39
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#49
catgirl | 
Europe r41
ct as hell
2021-12-03 16:45
52% t sided at pro level
2021-12-03 16:54
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#55
catgirl | 
Europe r41
ok so? only 100 ppl at max play on this lvl
2021-12-03 16:58
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#59
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United Kingdom julz!
if inferno is ct sided then u just suck if the cts have bad economy the map is insanely t sided
2021-12-03 17:00
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#62
catgirl | 
Europe r41
"if the cts have bad economy" nice statement. For that to happen they need to be losing, and they wont lose when its so ct sided
2021-12-03 17:01
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#81
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United Kingdom julz!
just win pistol bot
2021-12-03 17:54
6 replies
+11
2021-12-03 18:24
#94
catgirl | 
Europe r41
bot calling me bot, nice
2021-12-03 18:40
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#97
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United Kingdom julz!
says bot who cries about easy t map inferno pug hero
2021-12-03 19:03
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#98
catgirl | 
Europe r41
i dont cry? i say its wrong that its ct sided, u are very low if u think its t sided lol
2021-12-03 19:07
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#100
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United Kingdom julz!
its t sided in pro scene but im low if i think its t sided? LOL quite the opposite my delusional friend
2021-12-03 19:22
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"pro scene" is just a 100 ppl, dont be stupid pls. If you are lvl 7+ on faceit its ct af
2021-12-03 19:23
its the only statistic available for win percentage between evenly matched teams, its generally a good indicator that a map is one way favoured or your gameplay is so off meta that you buck the trend
2021-12-03 17:01
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#64
catgirl | 
Europe r41
its not a good indicator at all, every single game i play ct sided af, except cache
2021-12-03 17:02
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see: 'your gameplay is so off meta that you buck the trend'
2021-12-03 17:18
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#74
catgirl | 
Europe r41
there is no such thing as a meta
2021-12-03 17:20
Old nuke kkk
2021-12-03 17:31
#99
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Brazil EuAndei
I think in 1.6 was Aztec; In the begginig of Csgo was Cobble and now is Ancient
2021-12-03 19:10
#53
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Brazil Dorinha13
Vertigo has only 1 bomb, how is that T? Any exec A will have at least 4 Ct
2021-12-03 16:56
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t rotations are quicker than or as quick as ct rotations, bombsites lack easy positions for cts
2021-12-03 17:01
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#68
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Brazil Dorinha13
I don't know about that, Ct rotations i guess is kinda fast and kinda safe as well, they can pass behind Ct spawn and still has a chance to get the lucker in mid or entering in bomb B
2021-12-03 17:04
T rotations aren't quick at all
2021-12-03 18:35
#88
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Czech Republic Korenus
Inferno I agree but Vertigo? Cmon man most of the games are CT sided as hell the only difference is in tier xxx when if the team is prepared it can farm T side as hell, but basically only T sided part in Vertigo is A site and if the CTs are not complete bots thay can antistrat/retake/aggro push ramp and then its 50/50 while the rest of the map is CT sided.
2021-12-03 18:27
#4
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
D2 is t sided. Ancient can be t sided and Nuke/inferno is super dominated by economy so whoever get's a safe economy first get's the advantage, making it somewhat fair
2021-12-03 15:44
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#6
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Croatia Momaq
d2 isnt t sided anymore
2021-12-03 15:44
Only Element that made d2 t sided was the mid peek and with it gone its not t sided anymore, just check the map stats, Ancient is also ct sided bro tf u talkin about, Inferno is balanced but still ct, Did you only watch navi play nuke or sth? nuke is ct sided
2021-12-03 15:46
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#21
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New Zealand Iuca5
navi dont have good nuke T side they have always bled on T and come back on CT side
2021-12-03 15:50
#26
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I know Nuke and Inferno are CT sided in full gun rounds. I was just pointing out that CTs without economy can't really do much on those maps, especially Nuke. D2 you got a fair point I just said that with Ancient, the map being new makes it possible, even if it's not really pointing out to that. Still a very economy dependent map, so CTs can get fucked
2021-12-03 16:09
-Nuke? Are you crazy? Its the best map in map pool.
2021-12-03 15:44
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#8
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Croatia Momaq
nah its a shit map way too many angles you need to check when entering a site
2021-12-03 15:45
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Nt bestest map.
2021-12-03 15:45
Once you learn to play it you realize that it's not thad bad, just very overwhelming at first.
2021-12-03 16:25
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#41
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Croatia Momaq
nah its shit also the worst map by far to play in a pug
2021-12-03 16:27
10 replies
Maybe it's not for you but it's a good map. It has tons of strategic options and you can play out midrounds in so many ways that it really shows who is a good player and who only plays Mirage and nothing else
2021-12-03 16:30
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#51
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Croatia Momaq
nah its luck based because of the number of angles
2021-12-03 16:54
8 replies
It shows that you've never put time into learning the map, that's some really bad takes you've got going on here
2021-12-03 16:55
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#54
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Croatia Momaq
there are many many angles that are opposite each other so you can only check one, meaning its 50/50 if someone is there or on the other side, meaning its luck
2021-12-03 16:56
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Literally every map in the game has crossfires possible, that's why you play with your teammates and trade properly. Dust 2 B has that, Inferno A and b has that, Ancient cave has that, every map has those spots. If all you do on Nuke is walk out of hut then sure it might look like it but then that's your own fault because you don't play the map properly
2021-12-03 16:58
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#65
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Croatia Momaq
i know every map has them but nuke has the most imagine a player exiting hut you have to check heaven, site, top hut, main, 2nd vent and many more angles, its just bad map design
2021-12-03 17:02
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No it's not lmao, you aren't supposed to entry ONLY through hut. You are meant to split either through Door or main or even heaven sometimes. Or alternatively clear out angles with utility like you would do for every other bombsite in the game. It's not bad map design, you just don't know how to approach it tactically
2021-12-03 17:11
#66
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United States frankay47
silver moment
2021-12-03 17:03
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#67
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Croatia Momaq
na lol
2021-12-03 17:03
You are just lacking skill :D
2021-12-03 18:40
+1 Newke good
2021-12-03 16:22
i think in 2021 inferno and vertigo have been slightly t sided. all the other maps are like 49-51 so they are pretty much equal
2021-12-03 15:44
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#58
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United States Outl1er
inferno yes, vertigo ehhhhhhhhh
2021-12-03 16:59
cobblestone was t sided
2021-12-03 15:45
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#12
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Croatia Momaq
i would love a cobble remake but make it like old cobble
2021-12-03 15:45
#11
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Spain Nepomu
Vértigo is The problem is since the m4a1s it’s to difficult to attack specially in pugs
2021-12-03 15:45
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#13
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Croatia Momaq
vertigo is trash map smoke spam simulator
2021-12-03 15:46
6 replies
#76
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Spain Nepomu
Cry
2021-12-03 17:25
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#80
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Croatia Momaq
lol what a stupid person
2021-12-03 17:34
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#82
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Spain Nepomu
Sure just like you mate
2021-12-03 18:20
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#83
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Croatia Momaq
atleast you admit you are stupid or maybe too stupid to realize the insult doesnt matter, its a win for me
2021-12-03 18:22
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#85
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Spain Nepomu
Sure go tell your mom that you won argument on hltv
2021-12-03 18:23
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#87
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Croatia Momaq
admitting defeat, nice you might be stupid but atleast you are honest
2021-12-03 18:24
It all depends on the teams that are playing, any map can be t-sided.
2021-12-03 15:48
its impossible. just for your asking
2021-12-03 15:48
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#18
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Croatia Momaq
ofc its possible example is cobble
2021-12-03 15:48
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mayb having more than 5 entries like train. but I don't think its possible nowadays
2021-12-03 15:50
bring back cbble b rush, cbble was t sided no?
2021-12-03 15:50
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#23
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Croatia Momaq
yes it was
2021-12-03 15:51
1 reply
we already have tec9 return, make it happen VOLVO
2021-12-03 16:04
majority of the maps are 50/50, and t's have easier economy
2021-12-03 15:52
the game is CT Sided, having to defend objectives gives you the benefit of them having to come to you. The only way I could see a map being T-Sided would be to make it hostage(which is just the same but with inverted roles) or to have a map like valorant with more than 2 bombsites.
2021-12-03 16:11
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Yes please. Assault, Office or Italy to competitive map pool.
2021-12-03 16:22
1 reply
+1
2021-12-03 17:28
#30
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Czech Republic manik999
CSGO needs a slightly nerfed M4A1-S and slightly buffed M4A4. These two rifles would be balanced with AK and maps will be more balanced as well
2021-12-03 16:18
hltv.org/stats/maps?startDate=2021-06-03.. Dust2, inferno, and vertigo are all T-sided until you add the filter for only the top teams in, and you can't expect Valve to balance specifically for the way the top 10 teams play as they represent an extremely small part of the the playerbase.
2021-12-03 16:21
#33
anjing | 
Indonesia ro2a
the other day my friend jokingly said "lets rush C" and then genuinely ask us "why there is no 3 site map" the audio files is there (for all agent voice), the C site textures files for the map is also in the game, and 3 site map is possible to make in the editor boom, we have a T side map, just need a tweak and balance i hate valulrante, but i have to admit, Haven is balance map, CSGO dev and Source map community seriously need to experiment with the 3 site map
2021-12-03 16:24
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I forget what it was called, but in 1.6 we used to play a lot on a map with 3 sites. Would be interesting to see one in the competitive map pool.
2021-12-03 16:23
How the fuck are you gonna cover 3 sites with 5 CTs? if CT lose first guy and its 4v5 basically gg, thats not an idea thats free 13-2 T side halves
2021-12-03 16:27
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#44
anjing | 
Indonesia ro2a
as i said, the map will need time for tweak and balance but isnt that what is always has been in this game ? like in low level game we tend to see people play whatever they want and in the end leaving just one guy at B, then he fail, and its end as retake game, so whats the different ? but i believe in high level (Pro level) they will figure it out, and if the 'one guy' is holding site in the mid and lose, the retakes will come from 3-4 way, right and left side, also from mid and spawn, making the T will feel overwhelm in the retake plus with the 'nade drop' that 'one guy' site can make ilusion as '2 player' site
2021-12-03 16:34
#35
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United States byucatch22
You're right - all pro maps are CT sided over the last 12 months in big events with top 30 teams... hltv.org/stats/maps?startDate=2020-12-03..
2021-12-03 16:23
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dont use big events filter since it only uses LANs, and we haven't had many LANs last 12 months
2021-12-03 18:35
#39
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Argentina atriX^
The game is CT-sided by nature and that's a good thing. The problem is that the M4A1-S buff gave the CTs a better AND cheaper weapon. That's why every map is started to lean more and more towards the CTs now. Even maps like Inferno that had been leaning to the Ts for some time is now CT-sided again. That retarded dust2 change broke the map and turned a map that has always been T-sided into being heavily CT-sided. The first step is to increase the M4A1-S price up to 3100. This change even made the pistol rounds more relevant.
2021-12-03 16:26
vertigo and nuke are like the only good maps, no
2021-12-03 16:29
Yeah sometimes it seems like teams have a game plan for CT side only but on t side no tactics whatsoever and just play of picks and rotations. And it turns into competition whoever wins more pistols, some random rounds on t and then shutdown better as CT
2021-12-03 16:44
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#79
Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem
Teams do have a plan. It's just far easier to hold some chokepoints from 10 different angles than it is to go through one. Especially with pro player aimgods on the other side.
2021-12-03 17:32
#57
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United States Outl1er
IMO they should just add cobble and cache to the pool and make it a 9 map pool, would make Bo5 more interesting as teams would still have 2 map bans and would add way more depth to the game.
2021-12-03 16:59
It depends on skill level
2021-12-03 17:01
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#69
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Argentina cheapdeed
+1 the better team wins
2021-12-03 17:04
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In silver literally every map is ct side lol
2021-12-03 17:05
D2 and vertigo
2021-12-03 17:04
#75
Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem
On normal player level the only way to make the game more T sided is nerfing the A1-S. Sitting in a corner and mowing down all the poor sods entering site is just too easy now.
2021-12-03 17:24
office EZ
2021-12-03 18:22
Maps aren't the problem it's the fact that the m4a1-s is 2900 when it should be 3100 and m4a4 should be 3000. Right now m4a1s can spam through walls and smokes and you can't even shoot back as a terrorist.
2021-12-03 18:29
i think its not about the map but the m4a1s is too op making all maps ct sided especially dust2 supposedly t sided map because always rush long A to win ez
2021-12-03 18:30
they can add Italy or assault... i guess
2021-12-03 18:33
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#96
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United States byucatch22
i've always been interested to see how pro teams would strat those maps...
2021-12-03 18:49
1 reply
Kill the hostages or rush market or both.
2021-12-03 19:30
ancient is t sided
2021-12-03 19:27
Imagine if train become a t sided map. Valve are good to change a decent map to something worse. Cbble, cache.
2021-12-03 19:29
Bring back cobble ffs
2021-12-03 19:29
#110
NAF | 
United States dyragu
the guns in this game have direct influence over the sides imo
2021-12-03 19:44
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