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Let’s be honest - OG
Finland Chickenfilemon 
No more ” Aleksib need better team” they are all equally awful. OG should just disband at this point imo. They achieved nothing significant in 2 years and they are not getting any better. Aleksib just overhyped, washed up igl at this point.
2021-12-03 23:06
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#1
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United Kingdom TwizzIr
AleksiB has one foot out the door anyway, if the rumours are true.
2021-12-03 23:07
18 replies
If he goes to G2 he will ruin their team and what they have been building for a past year
2021-12-03 23:11
17 replies
#8
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United Kingdom TwizzIr
You can't say that with confidence because you don't know that. People said NiKo would ruin this roster but he has done everything but. Give it time to flesh out and then make your judgements.
2021-12-03 23:16
15 replies
I’m certain that team who has been runner ups for almost a year wont win anything with this guy, simple because he doesn’t have that ”winners mentality”
2021-12-03 23:19
5 replies
#23
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Mongolia heedblank
skill > "winners mentality"
2021-12-03 23:22
3 replies
yup enjoy aleksi not winning anything in tier 1-2 ever again
2021-12-03 23:37
2 replies
#56
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Mongolia heedblank
I don't understand how you could expect something from OG tbh. Every player on that lineup is a downgrade to prime ence and only one keeping them relevant is aleksib..
2021-12-04 00:22
1 reply
Honestly I think that only OG fans keeps aleksib relevant. He doesn’t do a good job himself
2021-12-04 00:23
They won't win anything with this lineup neither so it won't really change anything, if not aleksi - someone else will step in.
2021-12-03 23:23
Why would they change a good IGL in nexa for a hyped average in alexeiB?
2021-12-03 23:20
7 replies
Because nexa isn't great IGL and he was kinda forced to do that in G2
2021-12-03 23:23
5 replies
What? He was IGL in Valiance/CR4SY as well and was brought in to be the IGL so not sure what you are talking about. Also I didn’t say he is great, I said he is good, and that is better than hyped alexi
2021-12-03 23:31
4 replies
true
2021-12-03 23:36
So what exactly has nexa to show for it? He has top tier talent in his team but didnt manage to win anything.
2021-12-04 00:27
2 replies
Implying aleksib has more to show? Also jacks and amanek top talent is debatable. Especially jackz.
2021-12-04 01:44
1 reply
Yep, major final and a big tournament win with a trash lineup.
2021-12-04 11:13
+1
2021-12-03 23:26
who tf would say niko would destroy the roster lul, only braindead faze fans who were salty
2021-12-04 17:03
#79
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Croatia FoxerHR
LOL what team have they been building? A team that has to be hard carried by one player to work? Fuck outta here.
2021-12-04 14:46
#3
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United States Azaqa
Really though what can he do, he has nobody to rely on in this team theyre all inconsistent af and niko is just shit. He might not be the same igl he once was, but hes still a good igl. His igling is the only think keeping this bot team relevant.
2021-12-03 23:11
3 replies
Nah I don’t buy that anymore. His calls are pure garbage at this point. Max tier2 igl atm
2021-12-03 23:14
2 replies
#7
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United States Azaqa
Idk ive seen him do some sick things with new nade dropping etc., this has been quite a bad map from him though
2021-12-03 23:15
1 reply
It’s been now bad couple of years for him tbh
2021-12-03 23:16
+1 ain't that the truth aleksib is trash and he should call it quits. cs never been his game tbh.
2021-12-03 23:14
1 reply
whats his game then?
2021-12-04 14:28
G2 and G2 fans are happy seeing OG lose. Because they have more of a chance of getting him. And probably AleksiB knows that G2 wants him maybe he dozen want to stay with OG. Soo, there is hope for G2 fans.
2021-12-03 23:15
#9
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Sweden flippig
5 average players ofc this trash wont achieve anything
2021-12-03 23:16
true. Atleast this guy is silenced for now, hltv.org/profile/1456618/aleksib-sex-god
2021-12-03 23:20
Lmao Yeah their "star" players cant even kill from behind because of aleksi OMEGALUL og have BIG LACK OF POWER All of them are inconsistent as fuck
2021-12-03 23:18
#13
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Finland Jutila
boo hoo
2021-12-03 23:19
aleksi is the most overrated IGL in "tier 1" in the last few years, this guy can get away with murder and no one will criticise him lmao (outside of HLTV)
2021-12-03 23:19
14 replies
^this Even Alex is not as overrated
2021-12-03 23:19
Word.
2021-12-03 23:20
Hampus? At least aleksi is IGL and he give good calls sometimes, tries to do some fakes etc.
2021-12-03 23:25
9 replies
What's the issue with Hampus though? Plays hyper-agressive and has some game sense too
2021-12-03 23:26
8 replies
It's hard to call him IGL, they rely on strong CT side and individuals, they play default most of the time and hope someone will get multikill.
2021-12-03 23:27
6 replies
still better than aleksi tho
2021-12-03 23:32
5 replies
#62
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Italy steven513
+1 by far
2021-12-04 01:22
Better aim yes
2021-12-04 14:07
#80
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Croatia FoxerHR
Aleksi major finalist, Hampus major failure. The only thing they share is the word major nothing else.
2021-12-04 14:47
2 replies
Aleksi didnt even reach major with OG so please…
2021-12-04 17:19
1 reply
#88
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Croatia FoxerHR
The fact that you have to specify that Aleksi didn't reach is with OG says everything...
2021-12-04 18:00
T-side win%
2021-12-04 15:29
+1
2021-12-03 23:26
he sure is a better igl than nexa tho
2021-12-04 14:29
Aleksi is the only problem, wasting geniuses like FlameZ and Valde
2021-12-03 23:21
2 replies
Valde is older and older he can't be that consistent as before. And I have no idea what happen with FlameZ in this event. He should be much better
2021-12-03 23:27
1 reply
onliner probably
2021-12-04 00:31
Look at the results of this year. Katowice, 1 round. DH Master Spring, Not qualify. FlashPoint 2 EU RMR , 1 round. IEM Summer, 2nd place. Cologne, Not qualify to the main event. Major, Not qualify. EPL I remember one of the event is 4th place, the other not made into the playoffs. What a disaster.
2021-12-03 23:20
1 reply
Disband, just disband
2021-12-03 23:21
Yea, really unfortunate, I thought that they would be good.
2021-12-03 23:22
2 replies
I really think they were better with nbk and issaa
2021-12-03 23:24
1 reply
#54
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Finland RPGWiZaRD
Looking at it afterwards NBK seems to have been an important piece to the team, Aleksi could use a 2nd caller type of guy that brings some structure to the team. Aleksi's strategies while can be pretty creative and new-thinking and not just recycled ones, is just a bit "experimental" for T1 CS and this kind of risky plays doesn't seem to work in the long run. Also I see him more as a strats maker than good caller, NBK was a bit opposite comparing the two I feel.
2021-12-03 23:53
overrated team, disband after new year
2021-12-03 23:24
1 reply
Agree
2021-12-03 23:24
The worst thing about this team for me is that it's so hard to point at any one person as the problem. Like, Aleksi's T sides are kind of just bad, Mantuu is inconsistent, Flamez is all aim no brain but not in the way that an IGL can do work with, more like Tenz was in CS, niko is the exact opposite where he seems like a decently smart player but just cannot show up mechanically and valde is decent but he's just that, decent, if Valde is the best player on your team you have some problems The fact that this team is anywhere near the top 15 or so at all gives me at least some hope for aleksib's leadership and he is obviously very good with util but he's just so predictable on t sides, maybe he would/will do better with more firepower like he had on ENCE. Valde should be on Astralis instead of xyp9x imo. Mantuu has crazy peaks but is super inconsistent, he would play very well under someone like karrigan imo who specialises in developing talent. The other two idek what to do with them This team should just go their separate ways imo
2021-12-03 23:25
2 replies
How IGL can fix mantuu's inconsistency? He couldn't fix twistzz's tho
2021-12-03 23:29
1 reply
He's been pretty consistent. Today he was pretty sick/ill so he wasn't 100%.
2021-12-03 23:49
other than valde and mantuu the rest of the team aint anything amazing
2021-12-03 23:26
1 reply
valde and mantuu definitely aint amazing either. Mantuu infact is one of their biggest problems.
2021-12-04 00:33
imagine being igl and doing most of the work and getting hate without any proof. Doesn't even matter what the real problems are its so damn easy to blame the igl for everything.
2021-12-03 23:29
11 replies
truth, they somehow manage to beat decent teams when this roster is complete garbage on paper
2021-12-03 23:35
they now tried to build 2 different teams around aleksi. Eveything was done for him but he just cant make it work. And ppl like you are still defending him after 2 years of nothing
2021-12-03 23:35
9 replies
Meh They barely took the same players: NBK = Niko - both of them bellow than average Flamez = Issa - have aim but no brain
2021-12-03 23:39
7 replies
what? no, just no dude. There is a reason they replaced nbk and issaa with these guys. OG wanted team that suits aleksi and team which would play for their igl. Now when their igl is making bad calls, everyone seems to seek excuse for aleksi
2021-12-03 23:43
6 replies
Man you blaming Aleksi the whole day You talking about his T side calls like its shit and smth like this but you can't see the pure lack of firepower they just can't make a kill I won't ever believe what Aleksi had good calls in Ence and lost his brain is OG, it doesn't work that way
2021-12-03 23:50
5 replies
Times changes, game evolve. Ence was in 2019, its 2022 soon dude, so hop on! His calls are below average for tier1. And this is my first post in days, so I dont know what are you talking about
2021-12-03 23:53
4 replies
Imagine thinking you know more about how he leads than his former teammates and analysts who actually got access to voice comms
2021-12-04 14:10
3 replies
#74
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Europe Nictake
Check his profile, mens is obsessed about aleksiB. Mainly hatin on him
2021-12-04 14:16
2 replies
True
2021-12-04 14:21
Used to be a fan of the man, now hes just average
2021-12-04 17:20
not 1 single superstar on this team ever. if you think valde was the star player, he came from NORTH.. where csgo players go to retire. issaa was a bot with no iq at all. he did the stupidest decisions, nkb openly admitted that he doesn't even practice aim anymore and we saw him WHIFF so many easy multikill situations. mantuu wasn't even their first choice for awp role. truth is all of these roster versions had problems to begin with.
2021-12-03 23:40
#43
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Finland AliSabid
The lack of firepower seems to be the problem imo
2021-12-03 23:35
3 replies
watch their t sites... those calls dude, those calls
2021-12-03 23:38
2 replies
#50
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Finland AliSabid
yeah og's t sides have been shit
2021-12-03 23:43
1 reply
for 1 example against nip, they tried A site 1 time only? And they kept going secret for the rest of the game not a single time they tried to take that garage outside. Fact is that aleksi reached his prime in 2019 and after that hes been average or below
2021-12-03 23:46
#58
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Finland Jutila
im glad he going to g2 ! :D
2021-12-04 00:25
2 replies
Back to HAVU?
2021-12-04 13:58
1 reply
#82
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Finland Jutila
im glad he going to g2 ! :D
2021-12-04 15:26
If we dont count in the IGL, the only one that has really delivered in OG is mantuu. Valde is decent at best at this level, flameZ is far away from his peak and niko just does not bring the power that OG needs. The best for the whole party is to look what the options are and what they really need. Core OG is potentially dangerous, but the key has been missing for a while now. Unlucky that they needed to find the 5th player when there wasn't alot available. Sad that they probably have to part ways, but i hope there will still be OG in the scene in the future
2021-12-04 01:35
Some comments about the team falling off a cliff. This is the exact level the team should be performing at; challenging top teams but not beating them. The problem? The roster. -FlameZ is and has always been an FPL warrior. However, that doesn't mean that he's a bad player. He might just need experience. -Mantuu isn't a tier one awper, never has been. He's had plenty of time to prove his worth, but has failed to do so. At the highest level the key to success is consistency, not highlight clips. -Valde, in all honesty is a great all-around rifler. He just isn't a star player, and there's an overwhelming evidence to support this. -Niko has never been anything special in any way. He isn't a terrible player, but is it reasonable to expect decent results out of him in tier 1? Last but not least, there's the great question mark, mr Mullet. Half of the people in this thread are praising him while half of the people are playing him down. The truth is that we still have no idea of what he's capable of. He has led a mediocre Ence to a grand final of a major, although failing to deliver consistent results in the following "season". He has also captained a mediocre OG, that has admittedly failed to deliver any kind of results at all. This isn't a huge surprise though, when taking into consideration the roster of the team, and the fact that they have been an international squad since the beginning. A couple of notes of Aleksi from someone who has been watching OGs games consistently. While he seems to have a solid understanding of the tactical and strategical side of CS, he lacks decisiveness in mid-round calling. Every time OG manage to get an opening, they hold back and play way too passively. This wouldn't be an issue if it didn't happen every, single, time. On top of this, there is a single player looking to exploit the opening and almost always getting themselves killed, thus equalizing the round. While not all of this is necessarily the IGL's fault, it's definitely a tell of the deficiencies of Aleksib, given that the core has existed for around two years now. Another point I want to mention is Aleksib's mental capacity. Whenever you watch top tier sport and someone seems frustrated, that means they are frustrated (read: tilted). Now, whenever you watch any game of OG, Aleksib is visually very, VERY frustrated, especially in recent months. This clearly indicates that everything is not right with the team, which can be attributed towards the IGL. We already know that the entire team has been built around Aleksi, so there's no reason not to put the blame on him. If something along the lines of Aleksib moving to G2 will happen, we will be getting a better idea of Aleksi's capabilities as not only the IGL, but the leader of a team. There has been too many pieces missing in both Ence and OG to paint a clear picture of where Aleksi stands as a player. Hopefully we can get an answer to that soon, as OG already is a more or less a doomed project.
2021-12-04 03:23
His igl'ing is decent, better than people like Hampus and Nexa for sure. If he goes to G2 he will be a clear upgrade for them, Nexa relies way too much on individual skill and NiKo and Hunter popping off and when they dont its gg
2021-12-04 14:02
2 replies
Its really not and I really hope he goes to G2 and proves that im right. They will never win anything with him or come close to where they are now
2021-12-04 14:04
his igling is decent but i feel like they are playing default like 85% in ct 0 aggresive always stay in site and bless for multikill or bad flash idk
2021-12-04 14:04
#72
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France masnoi
ye there is no point in fixing a team playing matches with similar quality as Sharks vs Pain
2021-12-04 14:08
OG and EG disband Mousesports [frozen, aleksib, ropz, mantuu, niko] Faze [karrigan, rain, Twistzz, broky, valde] G2 [huNter, NiKo, nexa, Cerq, Brehze] Vitality [ZywOo, apEX, misutaa, flameZ, Stewie2k] Team Liquid [EliGE, NAF, oSee, shox, es3tag] NiP [REZ, device, Hampus, HEAP, Lekr0] Fnatic [KRIMZ, Brollan, suNny, flusha, Plopski]
2021-12-04 14:25
nt allu
2021-12-04 14:47
nt allu
2021-12-04 15:28
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