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United States m2kx 
fallen plays like average t1 awper = liquid best team in the world fallen does what he always done = liquid disband
2021-12-04 19:36
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liquid not even top 5 wether fallen has life games or not.
2021-12-04 19:36
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who is top5? 1.Navi 2.Navi 3.Navi 4.Navi 5,Navi
2021-12-04 19:38
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1- navi 2- G2/vita 3- vita/G2 4- gambit/heroic 5- heroic/gambit 6- NIP (rlly doubt this)
2021-12-04 19:40
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tier 1 NaVi tier 2 Gambit / Heroic / G2 / Vitality tier $ Nip
2021-12-04 19:41
#44
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Uzbekistan gafurman
this is actually true. I don't think any team deserves to be in top 5 right now besides navi. Maybe Heroic, but still they have been choking a lot
2021-12-04 21:13
Stewie played worst then fallen. Stewie is a pub player.
2021-12-04 19:39
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#5
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United States m2kx
look at impact, + the awper should always be carrying hltv.org/stats/players/2023/fallen?start..
2021-12-04 19:41
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what are u on? did even watch matches? he dropped awp so many times to others
2021-12-04 19:42
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#8
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United States m2kx
?????????? its either fallen + naf and fallen + stewie, and fallen always gets awp priority. his impact and rating is less than 1 in the last 6 month against all top50 teams. 0/8
2021-12-04 19:45
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hltv.org/stats/players/13578/grim?startD.. this is your not entry / anchor / star player not every loss of liquid was fallen's falt but every win was fallen's merit
2021-12-04 19:47
"awper should always be carrying" then liquid should never win, they don't play for they awper, but for their riflers, and that's how they've always played +that's false, you're just under that impression because some of the greatest star players right now are awpers +there's no "carrying"
2021-12-04 20:07
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#28
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United States m2kx
you are talking out of ur ass right now without evidence, just accept that fallen is a weak link of team liquid... hltv.org/matches/2353163/liquid-vs-nip-i.. like pls 1. fallen is igl so if "they play for their riflers" (whatever that means), he is the one putting himself in bad positions 2. prove that it's false? every top 10 team has a competent awper (except amanek, who drops fallen numbers). the gun is literally dedicated and the most expensive because it is the best weapon 3. yes, there is. elige and naf carry TL before u say anything. if fallen didn't whiff the pivotal easy shots on CT in multiple rounds this match (i watched the whole match), liquid wins inferno
2021-12-04 20:22
+1
2021-12-04 20:26
+1
2021-12-04 20:10
#48
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Brazil tlszin
+1
2021-12-05 03:28
#10
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Brazil tmmart_
average t1 awper = Device, Broky, Jame, S1mple and Zywoo HAHAHAHHAHA i don't think so
2021-12-04 19:49
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Jame tier 1 pick one
2021-12-04 19:50
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#13
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Brazil tmmart_
Jame is better than cadian and amanek... he is tier 1 vp is top 7 at this moment...
2021-12-04 20:09
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ye just joking cos i hate jame >:(
2021-12-04 20:04
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#18
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Brazil tmmart_
HAHAHAHHAHA i understand you... he's a baiter.
2021-12-04 20:07
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yes his playstyle is annoying to watch.
2021-12-04 20:07
stewie is dogwater
2021-12-04 19:50
T1 AWPER: DEV1CE, ZYWOO, S1MPLE AND SH1RO FALLEN IS NOT AT THIS LEVEL HE'S NOT TIER 1 AWPER
2021-12-04 20:05
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hahahaha hes better then art , all of them learned from Fallen demos how to play
2021-12-04 20:06
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it's a shame valve needed to nerf those guys to oblivion
2021-12-04 20:09
how they learned from fallen's demo since dev1ce and simple started to play before him? also s1mple, zywoo and sh1ro's style are way different from fallen's. art is not a main awper and he's not tier 1 either.
2021-12-04 20:19
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they started learning from the fallen demo because it was his era with the coldzera. the era of astralis and simple was after. simple only this year won the major
2021-12-04 20:22
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#34
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Brazil SkirlsEx37
and simple allready told that he is a big fan of fallen
2021-12-04 20:25
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+1 , and Fallen is a very smart and experienced player. even when we play faceit, everyone knows a fallen flash to banana. he teach how to play. this is not a s1mple with perfect reflexes. he is a player with excellent understanding and positioning. device is its successor
2021-12-04 20:33
As always Brazilians do not know how to interpret text. I never said s1mple was or was not fallen's fan (being a fan does not mean he learned from fallen, just means he likes him as a player or person which now is the most possible) And s1mple only win the major this year because he always had trash team mates holding him back, one of the major finals he disputed was against prime fallen for example in 2016. what i said was fallen IS not a tier 1 awper anymore. and, yes fallen was good in the past (was the second best player of 2016, coldzera is also washed), but what i'm talking about is the present and in the present he's not even close of the best awpers. It's been almost 4 years since fallen last appearance on top 20 (something the tier 1 awpers always do).
2021-12-04 21:26
CAPS LOCK KEY STUCK??
2021-12-04 20:08
only 4 tier 1 teams, nice
2021-12-04 20:09
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CadiaN, Jame, Broky and even Amanek are all better awpers than Fallen in tier 1.
2021-12-04 20:16
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#31
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Brazil shintaxx_
lol, fallen is even better then all of those guys you mentioned here,
2021-12-04 20:22
well you can include cadian from heroic too. heroic is better than liquid and cadian better than fallen. if this was not limited to teams you can consider broky too, despite faze being bad fallen has not the same impact as broky.
2021-12-04 20:35
#25
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Chile 1cristiaan
8/8
2021-12-04 20:14
#26
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Chile 1cristiaan
30yo cmon
2021-12-04 20:15
so glad hes leaving, i despise him for being so bad
2021-12-04 20:19
#33
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Brazil SkirlsEx37
lulquid is so dependent of fallen, imagine if they cut him off... he do grenades, drop weapons, call the tatics and have to do the entry sometimes
2021-12-04 20:23
Fallen deserves better
2021-12-04 20:26
Fallen deserves better teamates
2021-12-04 20:31
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fallen only wins when he is carried by elige & naf
2021-12-05 03:14
FALLEN DESERVERS BETTER TEAMATES!! Just see how s2k talked about grim, a very toxic and whining player
2021-12-04 20:36
Holy duck. I can't understand why HLTV members are usually so stupid. Is it just hate on brazilian players or something? I really cannot understand. Everyone in TL is underperforming, team is clashing every match to decide who is calling in-round, and way more mistakes in this dead team. It's not a surprise that Fallen isn't the star player anymore, but blaming him for every single bs that has been happening in this team is an absolute dumbassery. From what I can understand from his livestream or when gaules is interviewing him, he has been doing just too much. I don't speak portuguese fluently yet, but from what he says, he has been the one flashbanging, entrying, supporting, igling and awping. Like what the duck? And if you watch games closely, you will see that I'm not lying. He has some of the highest flashbang use and impact stats, drops better weapons and accepting playing shitty weapons and shitty positions just to satisfy other teammates. In a livestream, he even told that he knows that he doesn't have the same aim he used to, and he uses himself as bait in retake situations, "taking away opponent's aim", allowing his teammate to tradekill. I insist that Fallen is one of the players that rating doesn't show his real value in-server.
2021-12-04 20:37
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#43
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Brazil ahborba
+1111111 thank you for being alive
2021-12-04 21:12
#47
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Brazil SkirlsEx37
stop, you are talking too many truths
2021-12-05 03:18
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