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We’re in the NAVI era
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Sweden Smurfhits2000 
they’ve basically been the top team since April, won every lan they attended, basically picked off from where they left Katowice 2020 Discuss.
2021-12-04 22:03
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top team since mid-July actually
2021-12-04 22:04
20 replies
True, but them and gambit were pretty equal since the beginning of May
2021-12-04 22:06
19 replies
Yes during online events
2021-12-04 22:07
18 replies
are we supposed to cross out 1.5 years of CS because it was online? It is still cs. LAns are way better, I agree
2021-12-04 22:07
17 replies
I'm just pointing out that gambit were equal or somewhat outclassing everyone during online events....
2021-12-04 22:08
3 replies
yeah, they dropped severely on lan
2021-12-04 22:08
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yea they no where as good
2021-12-05 13:11
#63
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Sweden EntonXD
imagine almost having a mini era, being the undisputed best team thats reminiscent of 2018 astralis, being put of because it was online and every win comes with an asteric. and the only way they could do it was because it was online.
2021-12-05 14:54
lets be real does anyone remember mid 2020 to early 2021
2021-12-04 22:33
12 replies
Yes
2021-12-04 22:35
3 replies
the answer is i only remember zywoo's 1v4 thats it
2021-12-04 22:36
2 replies
Also yes
2021-12-04 22:41
I remember a ZywOo flick
2021-12-06 11:20
I mean I watched all the events so yeah… some can definitely blend together but still a part of cs history
2021-12-04 22:37
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it is history but its less valued i'd say viewership wise atleast lan bring out the ugly and the beautiful in people best example the boo's in Copenhagen to apEX and then him memeing on the crowd while online just felt meh bland
2021-12-04 22:39
Nope
2021-12-05 12:58
#44
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Europe Vallon4
Nope, lmfao.
2021-12-05 13:05
When was that??
2021-12-05 14:17
yes
2021-12-06 11:19
#93
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Belarus KREDIT31
yes i do. epls12, iem beijing, blast fall final, iem global challenge amazing cs
2021-12-08 02:48
not really
2021-12-14 19:38
People have different opinions of what an era is. S1mple himself said they need to win few more to consider it as an era. As a navi fan myself I will consider this as an era just because of pure dominance on LAN and winning intel Grand Slam and major this year.
2021-12-04 22:04
4 replies
exactly, fnatic, (not so much nip), astralis. those teams had an era... for majors anyways.. but you get what im saying, navi is simple,,,ly ( lol) on a hot streak.
2021-12-04 22:33
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I think it would be fair to add LG/SK
2021-12-05 13:32
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correct. lol my bad
2021-12-05 17:55
#48
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Brazil arunino
and Cologne (LAN)
2021-12-05 13:18
+1, and they are still inexperienced. People are talking about gambit and them not having experience, but Blast Fall was 3rd lan for B1t, 6th lan for Perfecto in the navi lineup, 11th for Boom. They are just getting started
2021-12-04 22:05
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And boom played another 11 lans in QBF/Winstrike, why would u look only at experience in this lineup xD
2021-12-04 22:11
3 replies
how many of them were tier 1? two majors, one of them being a studio, since Winstrike went out 0-3
2021-12-04 22:12
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So? Lan is a lan, doesn't matter if it's in studio on infront of crowd. 3 majors, 2 minors and 2x wesg (maybe not a T1 but still huge lan) + plenty of smaller lans
2021-12-04 22:15
1 reply
Fair enough, good point
2021-12-04 22:30
#6
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Europe S0me_dude
It's not era yet, too early for that but definitely we can point out start of the potential era when b1t joined the squad but before that na'vi were inconsistent with flamie.
2021-12-04 22:07
NaVi era is the most legit era so far in cs. No smoke bug abusing and no fake dominance of NiP / SK since in early days of cs skill level was nowhere near reached. 5 insane players working together as a pure machine and destroying everyone with their individual skills. Beautiful cs.
2021-12-04 22:08
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#11
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Europe S0me_dude
>Boombl4 >insane LMAO
2021-12-04 22:09
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#50
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Poland Hellp3r
His callings and actual performance is top tier.
2021-12-05 13:29
#12
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Turkey orionski
name, flag and flair all checks out
2021-12-04 22:09
Prime Navi vs Prime Astralis..... In terms of firepower clearly navi wins easily. And there has been changes from 2018 till now. So I guess Prime navi >>> prime astralis (my opinion)......
2021-12-04 22:10
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#20
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Algeria he_car
not easily prime dupreeh = prime electronic Prime dev1ce < prime s1mple prime Xyp > prime perfecto prime Magisk => prime b1t prime gla1ve >> prime boombl4
2021-12-04 22:30
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#22
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Europe S0me_dude
+1
2021-12-04 22:32
#25
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Albania Mamluku
prime dupreeh > prime electronic ???? and saying xyp > perfecto isn't fair either, perfecto has higher peeks
2021-12-04 22:34
3 replies
Cry is free
2021-12-04 22:38
#31
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Algeria he_car
never said prime dupreeh was better than prime electronic, i said they were equal, also yeah perfecto is probably better individually when both are in their peaks but ill still argue xyp got the bigger brain))
2021-12-04 22:44
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#36
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Albania Mamluku
somehow my brain registered that as >, I think electronic > dupreeh maybe I agree on xyp, but its closer to a 50-50 imo
2021-12-04 22:48
Prime electronic is probably the best rifler ever after NiKo
2021-12-05 17:57
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#76
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Algeria he_car
maybe but i still think its equal to dupreeh at his prime))
2021-12-05 18:41
3 replies
Different roles though?
2021-12-06 10:51
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#78
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Algeria he_car
well its the best comparison, i dont think anyone on the old Astralis plays the same roles as electronic anyways.
2021-12-06 11:16
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Fair enough, you’re right about that.
2021-12-06 11:36
WIll see for how long it will last cuz hard to compare 6 months to ~2 years
2021-12-04 22:20
#60
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Fake dominance? It's not NiP's fault that nobody else was good enough to take them on, they envisaged and created the "era" that we know today, friend.
2021-12-05 14:50
It ain't no era until I get my cheesburger
2021-12-04 22:10
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sorry but Boombl4 ate that burger and you ain't getting any till he's hungry for winning !!
2021-12-05 12:55
No if you say this is NaVi era then you say a Liquid era existed too Requirements for an era = win 2 majors in a row, and win atleast 4 tournaments in between
2021-12-04 22:26
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#42
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Ukraine Masak0vske
Liquid didn't win the major lol
2021-12-05 13:01
era does not mean 2 majors in a row thats just dumb even in peoples eras they still lost tournaments people hype majors up too much its just a t1 tourney with extra bragging rights
2021-12-05 13:16
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2021-12-05 14:59
#64
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Majors help but they do not define an era of dominance, it's "type of dominance" + "longevity" - it's why LG/SK are not accredited with having one despite the fact they have two Majors under their belt.
2021-12-05 14:55
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That is why i said that you need to win consistent tournaments, atleast 4 between them. Fnatic did it and Astralis did it. unless you obviously get a 87 game winstreak which is almost impossible nowadays, 4 years from now no one will remember that NaVi won EPL S13 and Blast fall Final. but if they win 2 majors or more in a row then yeah people will remember
2021-12-05 14:59
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#67
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
The point being there may not be another Major for a while now despite the fact Na'Vi may still be dominating, why does it have to be Majors specifically? I get it, they are the most prestigious tournaments in CS:GO but I would argue that simply winning at least one is enough to be established provided you have the "type of dominance" + "length of dominance" to back it up. NiP did win one but that was after their era, of course.
2021-12-05 14:59
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The thing with Majors is, sure they arent necessarily the hardest tournaments, but they are the ones that people will remember the most. in 4+ years no one will remember NaVi won Blast Fall Finals or EPL S13. But they will remember if NaVi wins 2 majors in a row, and that is why i said that for a ERA they need to atleast win 2 majors in a row and have won atleast 4 tournaments in between then that could be considered a ERA.
2021-12-05 15:03
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#69
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's sound logic but I disagree that it is a requirement for an established era, so I can respect your take on what defines an era, friend. :)
2021-12-05 15:06
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Major is like a world championship in different sports. And it's more important then winning leagues etc not just about prize money but building a legacy
2021-12-08 02:46
#82
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Iceland suriel666
name checks out
2021-12-06 21:25
its difficult to judge during the online era since well its online and less valued but considering no top team can still beat navi i guess they have an unofficial era they still require a few tournament wins and to be more active imo
2021-12-04 22:35
Best team no doubt about it. Device fanclub is starting to lose men in their ranks sadly
2021-12-04 22:44
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Don’t worry, NIP era starts 2022
2021-12-05 12:52
#35
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Czech Republic wellbi
NaVi at the moment is in the position towards the rest of the grid like "Guys, cmon, build something or we will s1mply establish an era. Ok?" Not yet, but very close.
2021-12-04 22:47
no we are not. even navi and launders have said this isn't an era yet.
2021-12-04 23:28
IEM FALL CIS /closed
2021-12-04 23:31
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#49
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Brazil arunino
so what? GamBOT are top1 team, cuz they won trash CIS event? lol ruski fans are so funny
2021-12-05 13:19
4 replies
cope
2021-12-05 14:00
2 replies
#54
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Brazil arunino
cry gamboter
2021-12-05 14:07
1 reply
not even close
2021-12-05 14:46
ok dead team fan
2021-12-05 15:55
#43
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Ukraine Snigopad
For me, this is already the era that began in Katowice 2020 where they looked like a next-level team. And yeah, Navi, like the rest of the top teams, was hit by covid and endless faceless online tournaments. And second yes, same as other teams they lose some finals, IMHO it's ok.
2021-12-05 13:04
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#62
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Katowice 2020 is where they first showed that they can achieve great things on LAN but their era of dominance didn't start until B1T joined the main roster, after Gambit had been the most dominant prior to that.
2021-12-05 14:53
It will be part of the era, if they're still going as they do now in 6 months from now
2021-12-05 13:07
This gonna be a long era
2021-12-05 13:35
No we are not. They need to win more tournaments
2021-12-05 14:18
#58
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Czech Republic Kotletka
No we are not. They need to win 15+ majors
2021-12-05 14:20
#61
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's safe to assume that currently are trying to achieve era-defining dominance but like everybody says, it's too soon to tell yet. Let's just enjoy the current Na'Vi dominance and see where they can go with this, fans will be fans at the end of the day. ;)
2021-12-05 14:52
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I don’t get why it wouldn’t be considered an era. As you stated in #62 their era of dominance has already started. The only question is when it’s going to end. Hopefully soon.
2021-12-05 16:25
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#72
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's only been about 5 or so months, friend - That isn't an era. Let's see how long Na'Vi can keep this up before attempting to call anything in relation to an era as of yet.
2021-12-05 17:31
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#84
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Iceland suriel666
they started winning in April/May. We have December now. That's ~7 months, almost 3/4 of a whole year
2021-12-06 21:27
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#88
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They started winning events consecutively since July, they got beat by Gambit in June, so their "dominance" started since then... You forget Na'Vi was struggling hard before B1T joined the team? The previous eras lasted for well over a year, so it's safe to assume Na'Vi are trying to achieve era-defining dominance but it's too soon to tell yet. I want to enjoy the current dominance, not overrate it.
2021-12-07 11:02
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#89
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Iceland suriel666
they weren't "struggling hard", they won Blast Global Finals and made a few decent runs after that. B1t joined in April/May. Loss to Gambit in June means basically nothing in the grand scheme, because Astralis also lost some matches/tournaments during their era... or do you think a team is supposed to go on a 87-0 winstreak, otherwise they don't have an "era"? yeah so it lasted over a year, and NaVi are about to close in on a full year, so it's not that far off that > I want to enjoy the current dominance, not overrate it. i think you meant "downplay it"
2021-12-08 01:06
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#91
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You aren't reading my posts properly if you think I'm "downplaying" Na'Vi's current dominance, friend. 5-7 months is not an era but Na'Vi are currently trying to achieve that - Let them. :D I'm all for fanaticism but comments disagreeing with you is not downplaying anything at all - it's opposite ends of the spectrum and I too am enjoying Na'Vi's current dominance.
2021-12-08 02:36
#83
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Iceland suriel666
yes it's NAVI era since May
2021-12-06 21:26
2 replies
You’re almost too based, people are going to suspect you’re an alt of mine (I don’t have any)
2021-12-06 21:43
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#86
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Iceland suriel666
mayber you're just my brother from another mother
2021-12-06 22:01
Era isn't official yet. But every era has a start and navi are well into the start of the era. This will be remembered as the start of their era. It's like astralis two year dominance like.. you can't just say the first 5 months wasn't a part of their era since at that point they hadn't been dominant. Im just kinda ranting a bit because i saw some people arguing against the navi era because of it only being the start.
2021-12-06 22:28
#90
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Brazil NotJuan
We are not dont lie
2021-12-08 01:08
xDDDDDD
2021-12-14 19:38
Is it confirmed?
2021-12-20 00:02
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