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If shiro, axile and hobbit are top 5 this year
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Iceland IM_FAN_OF_YOU 
Then this would be the first time in CS:GO history were 3 players in same team are top 5 tbh I doubt this will happen, probably NiKo will be higher than axile or hobbit
2021-12-06 17:09
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what are you smoking
2021-12-06 17:10
7 replies
+1
2021-12-06 17:30
icelandic snow hehe
2021-12-06 19:13
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#136
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Portugal _andrew_
uhh thats nice, can u gimme a litle bit?
2021-12-06 20:39
#135
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Portugal _andrew_
+1
2021-12-06 20:39
#149
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Finland byrbyl
geysir
2021-12-06 21:50
+1
2021-12-06 22:39
That shit must hit hard :D
2021-12-07 08:37
niko top 5 thats for sure
2021-12-06 17:11
4 replies
No way Niko isn't top 3 tbh. He's been dragging G2 kicking and screaming to semi finals. Even when they were doing trash and bombing out at the start of tourneys he still had super good stats
2021-12-06 21:21
3 replies
agree but maybe electronic over niko niko stats better but maybe
2021-12-06 21:23
2 replies
don't think elec is going to be top 5, but would love to be proved wrong
2021-12-06 22:09
electronic over niko???? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
2021-12-08 09:42
Sh1ro top2, Hobbit top4, Axile no
2021-12-06 17:11
7 replies
COPIUM
2021-12-06 17:30
KYOJIN top 40 for sure
2021-12-06 19:33
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Kyojin top 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 for sure
2021-12-07 08:39
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top 1 youtube player
2021-12-07 12:33
sh1ro top 3 if lans are weighted heavily sh1ro maybe only top 4
2021-12-06 19:40
hobbit top 5-6
2021-12-06 20:02
sh1ro 3 Hobbit 5
2021-12-06 20:35
NiKo is locked in for top 5.
2021-12-06 17:11
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#51
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Croatia FoxerHR
Top 4
2021-12-06 17:52
2 replies
+1
2021-12-06 17:54
+1
2021-12-06 20:36
Yes, top 4 for sure. 1- s1mple 2- zywho? 3- sh1ro 4- niko
2021-12-06 18:27
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1 s1mple 2 taco 3 fallen 4 felps 5 dumau ... 99 niko 100 zywhoo
2021-12-06 19:49
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#125
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Taiwan T1dal
accurate
2021-12-06 20:03
Finally someone smart
2021-12-06 23:01
#167
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Brazil Ties4
+1
2021-12-06 23:04
niko top 2 bro not zywoo they didnt win anything
2021-12-06 22:06
4 replies
G2 hasn’t won anything in years
2021-12-06 22:45
3 replies
top2 on major enough for niko>zywoo
2021-12-06 23:26
2 replies
2021-12-07 08:37
no top 2 for n0k0 zywho and sh0r0 > n0k0
2021-12-07 12:53
#5
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United States HLTV_RUNNER
If shiro, axile, and hobbit are in top 5 this year, someone from gambit is paying off HLTV
2021-12-06 17:11
16 replies
Who are in top 5 if shiro isn't?
2021-12-06 17:19
4 replies
Sh1ro might be in top5 but u have 5 spots and s1mple/zywoo/niko must be there, no space for 3 players from gambit.
2021-12-06 17:28
3 replies
Yea they fell off too much at the end of the year, sh1ro/hobbit might still be top 5 but niko and zywoo are definitely there as well
2021-12-06 18:06
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99% sh1ro will make it to top5, 5th is probably between hobbit/ax1le and electronic if he performs good at blast final
2021-12-06 18:11
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Ax1le dropped off really hard, he will barely make top 10.
2021-12-06 20:12
I don't like gambit either and their online stuff but look at the stats and results of the tournaments
2021-12-06 17:25
9 replies
What are you smoking even..? 1st is s1mple and 2nd zywoo, theres no debate for anything else. 3./4. Niko and sh1ro (niko should be 3.) 5th maybe hobbit.
2021-12-06 18:08
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#94
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Canada Virauve
I think there would be debate for 2nd between zywoo and NiKo. It’ll probably be zywoo, but there is a better chance of NiKo being 2nd than zywoo being 1st.
2021-12-06 19:12
2 replies
I mean yeah 1% is higher than 0% so obvious
2021-12-06 19:15
Niko rifler so sadly no chance for top 2 in current meta (though m4a1s buff helped him a bit)
2021-12-06 20:12
there is definitely debate for zywoo top 2
2021-12-06 19:43
4 replies
Not really tbh.
2021-12-06 22:09
OR maybe there is actually. Now that you said it NiKo has been an actual monster in big events in 2021.
2021-12-06 22:14
2 replies
sh1ro can be top 2 just as easily too
2021-12-07 08:28
1 reply
Lmao, no.
2021-12-07 11:17
XD
2021-12-06 17:55
#6
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United States bomberNTC
they wont all be in top 5 but they should all be top 20 at least
2021-12-06 17:11
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#7
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Canada go1x1n00b
top 8 at least
2021-12-06 17:13
1 reply
#10
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United States bomberNTC
true tbh
2021-12-06 17:14
#8
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Slovakia ypsylonnn
350% won't happen
2021-12-06 17:13
NiKo top2 if G2 wins IEM Winter.
2021-12-06 17:14
18 replies
niko would be easily top 2 if g2 won more events in 2021, they literally didn't won a single event, cologne and stockholm finalist is good result but they need an event
2021-12-06 17:16
4 replies
"if G2 wins IEM Winter."
2021-12-06 17:16
3 replies
I don't think iem winter helps him much, he needed like a bigger win or more tournaments
2021-12-06 17:17
2 replies
blast world final would put him in a pole position for top2 (but if he can win it ifc)
2021-12-06 19:43
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#143
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Serbia hitomi79
:) pole position is a b1t higher, it's s1mple as that. Let's just say it would cement Niko as number 2.
2021-12-06 21:01
1.19 vs top 20 rating xD
2021-12-06 17:18
11 replies
Sh1ro has 1.22 against top20 and u put him above niko. Difference is that niko has 1.28 impact and sh1ro 1.14 XDDDD
2021-12-06 17:30
10 replies
sh1ro better KD, clutches, 3 MVP (yeah, 2 mvp are shit, but still little bonus over niko with 1.19 rating). He has chances to be top 3 over NiKo, good chances.
2021-12-06 17:32
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Niko on lan: 1.27 rating, 1.39 impact Sh1ro on lan: 1.23 rating 1.15 impact Niko on Big events: 1.26 rating 1.38 impact Sh1ro on big events: 1.17 rating 1.05 impact (everything played against top20) LAN is higher valued than online, Niko got better placements at LAN tournaments ( 2nd place at Major, IEM Cologne + 6th iem fall) Sh1ro 5th-6th IEM Cologne and 3rd-4th Major) That 1 mvp from online tournament won't change much. Niko has a higher chance to end 3rd, it will be confirmed if he wins IEM Winter and gets mvp. I don't think clutches matters that much (on lan/big events sh1ro isn't even in top5 so I guess it says everything xd)
2021-12-06 17:46
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LAN only several events in 2021, mainly online. It's MVP from Katowice. Ofc if he wins MVP at Winter, he will be top 3.
2021-12-06 18:00
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Even without winning MVP at winter he has higher chance to be 3rd.
2021-12-06 18:02
What do you mean? Niko has 1.23 vs top 5. Sh1ro has 1.17 Only thing sh1ro has over Niko is better team success. And less deaths, lmao.
2021-12-06 18:11
4 replies
1.19 vs 1.22-1.23 vs top 20.
2021-12-06 18:11
3 replies
What do you mean? Niko has 1.23 vs top 5. Sh1ro has 1.17
2021-12-06 18:15
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2021-12-06 18:29
1 reply
I dont really understand what that means because Niko has 1.23 vs top 5. Sh1ro has 1.17 vs top 5.
2021-12-06 22:08
Sadly he will definitely be 3. over Niko
2021-12-06 20:14
ah......no.
2021-12-06 17:56
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. sh1ro 4. NiKo 5. hobbit
2021-12-06 17:18
7 replies
Why should Hobbit be above Ax1le?
2021-12-06 17:32
6 replies
Because.
2021-12-06 17:32
5 replies
Ax1le has better stats on LAN: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. Better overall stats: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. And better MVPs, arguably: ESL Pro League - Season 13 and IEM Summer Actually, I saw many people ranking Hobbit above Ax1le, and so I was wondering if there is any reasoning at all.
2021-12-06 17:35
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Hobbit better overall stats vs top 20. Hobbit 2 mvp too.
2021-12-06 18:01
2 replies
No? Both have 1.16 *against* Top20 teams (check Featured Ratings) And within "Top20" category, Ax1le is the same: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. Also, EPL-13 MVP > BLAST Spring MVP and IEM Summer MVP > CIS Rmr MVP
2021-12-06 18:09
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hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. They're equal, i would say. Maybe yeah, Ax1le would be higher cuz of LAN, but we will see what Tw1gris's mind is hiding.
2021-12-06 18:11
hobbit f*cked it all up on IEM Winter, before this event he'd been an obvious choice over ax1le
2021-12-06 19:47
niko could not get a single kill in remainder of 2021 and he would still be ranked higher
2021-12-06 17:18
in 2017 SK had 3 players in top 6 almost this achievement!! surely amazing even more if gambit went better on major
2021-12-06 17:18
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SK era.
2021-12-06 17:20
3 replies
yes, and in 2016 LG had 4 players in top 20, only taco didnt make it
2021-12-06 17:21
2 replies
Also in 2016 Top 1 and Top 2 players were from LG\SK. cold and FalleN. Imagine if s1mple and ZywOo were in one team, someone of them has to be number one, someone has to be number two. This is the same shit in 2016, good old days.
2021-12-06 17:24
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yeh, like they had such amazing stats putting numbers all the time, it is kinda same with s1mple and elect, but elec is robbed and is always 4th-6th
2021-12-06 17:28
Navi had 3 players in top 5 in 2010. hltv.org/news/5888/top-20-players-of-201..
2021-12-06 19:02
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if hltv chose to value lan performance more than online (doubt) and if both elec and b1t finish blast finals with massive rating and b1t gets the mvp navi might have 3 players in top5 once again
2021-12-06 22:22
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That isn't possible, it doesn't matter how good b1t is he played on top leve only for 7 months of this year, and elec started performing sick before 6 months so they don't have chance for top5, elec gonna finish #6 or #7 and b1t is gonna get #12 or #13
2021-12-07 23:06
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I'm still hoping to see b1t in top10 cuz what he done as a rookie in 7 months alot of players can't do in whole career and he got even better when LANs kicked in this fact can't be underappreciated.
2021-12-08 09:41
3 bots
2021-12-06 17:20
impossible because 1 s1mple 2 zywoo 3 niko
2021-12-06 17:22
nice try but no
2021-12-06 17:25
#27
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Spain Nepomu
Ax1le has choked on lan so much lol, and hobbit isn’t top 5 either
2021-12-06 17:25
4 replies
who is your top 5 then if axile and hobbit are out?
2021-12-06 17:26
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#38
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Poland sylwek1021
S1mple Niko Sh1ro Niko Electronic
2021-12-06 17:30
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#40
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Poland sylwek1021
Wait 2 times Niko sorry Zywoo instead of 1 Niko
2021-12-06 17:31
#49
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Spain Nepomu
S1mple niko zywoo shiro Electronic
2021-12-06 17:42
will not happen, s1mple, ZywOo and NiKo will be in the top 5. Also there will still be Blast World this year, if electronic performs as good as he did for the last few tournaments there, he might be able to place above Hobbit and ax1le (because of his LAN choke) as well.
2021-12-06 17:32
S1mple NiKo ZywOo Sh1ro Someone (Hobbit?)
2021-12-06 17:29
13 replies
electronic probably
2021-12-06 17:31
1 reply
How could i forget about daddy electronic
2021-12-06 17:31
Why NiKo second?
2021-12-06 18:19
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because of one match?
2021-12-06 19:05
5 replies
hltv.org/matches/2346924/vitality-vs-g2-.. Niko is just a more impactful player
2021-12-06 19:08
4 replies
because of 2 matches?
2021-12-06 19:09
3 replies
Because he doesn't have his stats overinflated by using the awp moreover, he also carried his team to the major final.
2021-12-06 19:13
2 replies
"he also carried his team to the major final." Proof?
2021-12-06 19:39
1 reply
#155
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North America hi_mens))
Did you even watch the major? This is a widely accepted consensus
2021-12-06 22:11
Better player overall, more impact and carried his team into major finals.
2021-12-06 19:21
2 replies
"Better player overall" Proof? "more impact" Proof? "carried his team into major finals" Proof?
2021-12-06 19:38
1 reply
Stop being fanboy please, im not hating ZywOo, its my opinion and i dont force you to accept it.
2021-12-06 19:45
not counting v4 and last rmr when is the last event gambit won and how many have they even won this year
2021-12-06 17:29
9 replies
its not all about that
2021-12-06 18:28
8 replies
that is 60% of the team it is all about that
2021-12-06 18:45
7 replies
It’s about stats
2021-12-06 19:14
6 replies
stats get better as u win u should know as an astralis fan getting all 5 in top20 in 2018 was biggest bullshit ever
2021-12-06 19:18
5 replies
No it wasn’t lol Yeah it gets better but zywoo still top2 probably and look what vitality won
2021-12-06 19:19
4 replies
u cant tell me straight to my face that every player from astralis was in the top 20 in the world individual wise
2021-12-06 19:22
3 replies
Yeah cuz they won so much, the wins played into it but gambit didn’t win nearly enough for that to take effect
2021-12-06 19:24
2 replies
yes thats why they wont all 3 be in top 5
2021-12-06 19:32
1 reply
or top 10 if im honest
2021-12-06 19:32
#34
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United States m2kx
Ax1le top 10 Hobbit top 15
2021-12-06 17:32
Only sh1ro has chances to be in top5. The rest will be in top10 probably.
2021-12-06 17:30
s1mple NiKo ZywOo sh1ro/Hobbit
2021-12-06 17:35
7 replies
Yeap, that's also my list
2021-12-06 17:37
Why NiKo second?
2021-12-06 18:19
5 replies
he has had significantly better placements than ZywOo other than that, it'll be nice to see a rifler in top2 instead of an awper xd
2021-12-06 18:21
4 replies
Have you checked their rating?
2021-12-06 18:24
It’s nice yeah but that’s not what they look at
2021-12-06 19:14
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#140
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Argentina atriX^
It is what they look at. That's why device was top2 in 2018 and top3 in 2019 despite winning 3 majors and being MVP in 2 of those. Achievements is kinda a tie-breaker and it's what gave ZywOo the #1 last year.
2021-12-06 20:55
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They don’t look at how nice it is lmao and if they have a lot of fans
2021-12-07 10:53
#53
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Norway Snaids
There isn't room for three
2021-12-06 17:54
Hobbit and Shiro could be, Axile definitely not.
2021-12-06 17:55
They'd have gotten it easy had they not dropped off in the latter half of the year. I doubt it now tbh.
2021-12-06 18:03
papatronic has to be above axile this year Axile on LAN sucked so much while papatronic destroyed everything Online era doesn`t matter
2021-12-06 18:04
4 replies
And axile gamesense is literally zero. Even xantares is better than axile in terms of game sense
2021-12-06 18:05
2 replies
yeah he is only aim and in Online he was always winning but in LAN is different But he is young , he has a lot of time to develop
2021-12-06 18:07
1 reply
Indeed he can develop
2021-12-06 18:08
+1 bot onliner, shouldn't be in top10
2021-12-06 22:54
If online yes u are right
2021-12-06 18:05
s1mple zywoo hobbit niko electronic top 5 in my book.
2021-12-06 18:12
no lol
2021-12-06 18:21
#79
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Russia mshkoda
Shiro top 2-5 Hobbit top 5-7 Axile top 10-15
2021-12-06 18:22
1 reply
hobbit aint gonna be top5, may be 6-9
2021-12-08 09:57
wait what? how would that happen?
2021-12-06 18:27
s1mple electronic zywoo shiro niko
2021-12-06 18:30
1 reply
theres no way it happens and you should know it, how the hell does electronic get to top2 above zywoo and niko
2021-12-08 09:57
s1mple sh1ro zywoo niko hobbit this is literally the only top 5 that can happen unless hobbit wins blast world finals mvp
2021-12-06 19:05
You cannot actually belief that?
2021-12-06 19:06
1 reply
yes, I belief pasha london school
2021-12-06 19:23
#106
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Poland Astoner55
No way, it's 1. S1mple 2. Probably zywoo idk tho 3. NiKo/Shiro 4. Shiro/Niko 5. Either ax1le or b1t (judging by b1t having 1.26 big events rating vs ax1le 1.14) 6. B1t/ax1le 7. Hobbit
2021-12-06 19:28
Niko could be even 2 this year
2021-12-06 19:40
1. s1mple 2/3. sh1ro/ZywOo 4. NiKo 5. Hobbit 6/7. b1t/Ax1le NiKo will probably get to #2 if G2 will win IEM Winter and reach big event final again to get stomped by Na'Vi (BLAST)
2021-12-06 19:46
#119
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Australia Dadecum
werent fallen cold and fer all top 5 in 2017?
2021-12-06 19:48
3 replies
no, I watched all top 20's, FalleN was top 6, sad for LG, imagine that achievement, 3 team players are in top 5 in 2015 fnatic players were olof top 1, flusha top 5 and krimz top 7, also pretty close
2021-12-06 19:50
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#122
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Australia Dadecum
ah yeah i remember now, device got number 5 despite fallen having higher heights, the major win for astralis probably put him just barely above fallen
2021-12-06 19:51
1 reply
This link has all of the Top 20 players of each year respectively, friend: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HLTV The chart was removed but the Top 20 lists are still there.
2021-12-06 20:05
"Then this would be the first time in CS:GO history were 3 players in same team are top 5" If there were to be a ranking in 2012, NiP would've nabbed this and back in 1.6, Na'Vi achieved this in 2010. In 2013 and 2017, NiP and SK had three players within the Top 6 but you are correct - Three players on the same have never been within the Top 5 officially, only the Top 6 and NiP unofficially back in 2012. For this year, I still don't think it will happen and that is because of ZywOo, NiKo and Electronic, respectively. My take:- - s1mple - ZywOo/sh1ro - sh1ro/ZywOo - NiKo/Hobbit/Electronic - Hobbit/Niko/Electronic - Electronic/Hobbit/NiKo - Ax1Le
2021-12-06 20:01
More likely b1t, electronic and s1mple are top 5 instead of gambit. No way it would happen but if a trio is in top 5 then it's navi's because of their big events rating and tournament wins.
2021-12-06 20:09
s1mple zywoo Niko they are in top 5 , it wont happen
2021-12-06 20:14
#134
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Latvia wassupgee
you must be out your mind. gambit as a team arent even top5
2021-12-06 20:38
7 replies
Tell me 5 teams who had better success and achievements this year than Gambit
2021-12-06 20:42
6 replies
#138
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Latvia wassupgee
navi, g2, vitality, astralis, heroic, virtus.pro. gambit onliners only, they will win 0 lans in 2022
2021-12-06 20:48
5 replies
Navi is better, more LAN wins, major, Grand Slam G2 0 tournament wins in 2021 Vitality 0 tournament wins in 2021 Astralis different line up, no success in 2021 really Heroic good win in EPL and decent, still less wins than Gambit Virtus Pro won like some tournament in start of 2021 So you only got 1/6 You must be true hater if you dont agree here
2021-12-06 20:57
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#142
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Latvia wassupgee
stop being delusional, covid is slowly coming to an end, gambit will never be top5. buh-bye!
2021-12-06 21:01
2 replies
Hahahaha 0/8 had no arguments and just left, what a true beta boy
2021-12-06 21:03
1 reply
#145
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Latvia wassupgee
im a beta boy? have u seen the gambit lineup? lmao, get real. they will never perform on a crowded lan. they couldnt even tell the mcdonalds cashier that they got their order wrong.
2021-12-06 21:09
#180
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Sweden EntonXD
Delusional
2021-12-07 12:29
top 10 4 Navi's 1 ZywOo 1 Niko 4 Gambit's
2021-12-06 20:50
Ukraines1mple Natus Vincere 161 4283 +1133 1.44 1.33 FranceZywOo Vitality 137 3651 +790 1.36 1.29 Russiash1ro Gambit 188 5009 +1108 1.42 1.22 Bosnia and HerzegovinaNiKo G2 166 4490 +478 1.16 1.19 KazakhstanHobbit Gambit 188 5009 +481 1.15 1.17
2021-12-06 21:22
Unless NiKo gets an MVP from IEM Winter or BLAST Global Finals, then ax1le and hobbit will be above him (and sh1ro has top3 locked either way)
2021-12-06 21:51
Honestly I doubt that most of these players sweat half as much about this than some of you guys.
2021-12-06 22:22
elec and b1t might be higher than hobbit and axile because the statistical edge they have on lan is higher than the similar edge gambit duo had online, as well as navi managed to win some big online events while gambit failed on big lan stage.
2021-12-06 22:36
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but im almost sure nothing of that would matter in the end and whoever has more evp mvp and rating gonna be placed higher
2021-12-06 22:37
there is no way ax1le will be even close to top 5. hobbit will be close too.
2021-12-06 22:41
#165
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Iceland suriel666
1. S1mple ... 2. NiKo / Sh1ro 3. Zywoo / Electronic / (Hobbit) 4. B1t / (Ropz) / (Axile)
2021-12-06 22:58
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. b1t/NiKo 4. NiKo/b1t 5. electronic
2021-12-06 23:50
5 replies
copium delusional b0t fan
2021-12-07 08:40
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#177
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Mongolia heedblank
+1
2021-12-07 08:40
#176
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Mongolia heedblank
there is no way b1t is in top 5 since its whole year not just the last half of the year
2021-12-07 08:40
weak bait try better hohland
2021-12-08 09:52
1 reply
? b1t is much better than all the other contenders for top5, look at the big events stats, he proved it in Stockholm
2021-12-08 10:49
#173
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Mongolia heedblank
If navi has dominant next year s1mple, elec, b1t might be in top 5 together
2021-12-07 08:38
No way anyone other than sh1ro is in top 5 from Gambit. Guys like s1mple, Zywoo, Niko, b1t electronic will take 4 spots from top 5 for sure.
2021-12-07 12:47
I can't create a thread, but I want to show it to you guys anyway Sh1ro cried after losing to Vitality confirmed proof - youtube.com/watch?v=Ge6xP_5cUwU&ab_chann.. If you are not interested in the whole vlog, you can start watching from 18:19 I feel sorry for him. Hopefully hltv will give him a well-deserved top 2 this year.
2021-12-08 09:54
1 reply
just watched that was about to make a thread on it and then saw this comment
2021-12-08 10:06
i doubt three of them will be in top 10 even
2021-12-08 09:56
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