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Can Nitro save NA
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Sweden TrainNR1map 
Nitro confirmed leaving 100t basically confirming his switch to csgo, will he save NA cs? twitter.com/100T_Esports/status/14683546..
2021-12-08 00:12
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#1
jabbi | 
Brazil falmes
Honestly he is just dogshit lol
2021-12-08 00:12
20 replies
0/8
2021-12-08 00:31
+1 only NA could think that he is above tier3 level
2021-12-08 00:55
2 replies
#161
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Brazil cattivo
+1
2021-12-08 15:54
#207
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Czech Republic Damiqqq
+1
2021-12-10 22:14
+1
2021-12-08 01:15
+1
2021-12-08 02:10
#121
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Brazil NotJuan
xaxa
2021-12-08 06:58
+1
2021-12-08 12:06
What does it say about the rest of CS that a "dogshit" IGL led a team to a grand slam, eclipsing Astralis' unbeaten LAN streak in the process?
2021-12-08 14:54
8 replies
#152
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Russia arc_
ch0kequid IGL was also the same person
2021-12-08 15:11
2 replies
And they worked through that and went on to do what I just mentioned. S1mple was toxic as fuck and ruined team synergy, look at him now. Would you still say he ruins team synergy?
2021-12-08 15:14
1 reply
#154
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Russia arc_
s1mple toxic af
2021-12-08 15:18
they didn't win because he was such a smart IGL, but because the team had the most firepower a CSGO team ever had at that time
2021-12-08 19:22
1 reply
Their individual out put was great but it was their team play that stood out most to me at the time they seemed to have a counter strat for every play against them, and they played off of each other perfectly, it was some beautiful CS. And that was before I considered myself a liquid fan.
2021-12-08 19:26
you all says that a igl that won 2 majors in a row, is a dogshit igl...
2021-12-08 19:25
2 replies
Pronax? I was only interested in 1.6 at the time so that was before I started watching csgo but I know fnatic was insane at the time. Hard to imagine they accomplished all that they did with a dogshit igl...
2021-12-08 19:34
1 reply
judging by his flags he probably means fallen....Nvm you are baiting hard ig
2021-12-13 09:37
IGL makes up for it
2021-12-08 15:58
Not true, arnt you liquid fan/
2021-12-08 16:10
why does he deserve a spot in Liquid if he couldn't even win in Valorant
2021-12-08 19:21
no hes washed
2021-12-08 00:12
fallen is better, wait and you will se how they fall in hltv ranking
2021-12-08 00:21
54 replies
0/8
2021-12-08 00:14
0/8
2021-12-08 00:15
0/8
2021-12-08 00:17
+1
2021-12-08 00:21
flag
2021-12-08 00:23
2 replies
+1
2021-12-08 04:44
#142
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Ukraine Yuras
+1
2021-12-08 13:53
I can't really believe people think otherwise...
2021-12-08 00:28
18 replies
i mean, i dont think nitr0 is better than fallen tbh, but fallen is still really fucking bad for an awper
2021-12-08 00:33
17 replies
he is inconsistent af and past his prime by a lot, but I don't see how people can expect nitr0 to be better, he was never better than fallen even at his best to begin with, and hasn't played pro cs in a long time
2021-12-08 01:01
16 replies
well, you can see how people will expect nitr0 to affect the team in a good way when compared to fallen they won the grand slam with basically this lineup +nitr0, and prime liquid had nitr0 in it
2021-12-08 01:13
15 replies
Cuz stuff that happened almost 3 years ago still matters
2021-12-08 01:21
4 replies
liquid were still #3 in the world in the start of 2020 when nitr0 left. after that it was all downfall, and weve heard the liquid players who played with him back then say that they wish he was still with them as they all respected him as a player also, theyve said before that things just dont click with fallen in the team
2021-12-08 01:55
3 replies
Yeah but that's 2 years ago now and a lot has changed. A reunion never works for any team long-term. They get a tournament victory and drop of the face of the earth. Look at any team in the history of cs. Their glory days are over and they need to accept it
2021-12-08 12:58
1 reply
"that's 2 years ago" Liquid players mentioned it in almost every interview where nitr0 was mentioned, that nitr0 was a glue to their team
2021-12-08 19:37
but they have god twist too... who was a monster in every match
2021-12-08 19:28
that's the only reason it might be a good call, but I still think it's a long shot. Imo they would be better off picking up another young talent and having someone else igl.
2021-12-08 01:25
3 replies
More like he is an igl that the team respected and more specifically elige, I'm not saying fallen was a bad igl just the team was convinced they didn't want to change how they play which obv just means fallen has no reason to be there. Idk why they'd pick him up without even making sure they are on the same page but whatever it's over now.
2021-12-08 01:48
2 replies
Agreed
2021-12-08 13:00
they picked him up cuz they wanted an AWP-IGL, and you dont find many nowadays, especially in NA
2021-12-08 19:38
Prime Liquid had stew in it , who they're about to lose.
2021-12-08 04:33
5 replies
good point, but i believe -stew -fallen +nitr0 +osee could still work, nitr0 wont be wasting awp and they will finally get a solid awper and (probably) solid igl
2021-12-08 04:45
4 replies
They still lose the entry fragger with the best aim of all time ever. In fact, they're lacking entry elements in general now. I suspect it will be a return to the slow Navi-style Liquid that gets destroyed by Furia.
2021-12-08 09:14
3 replies
"best aim" 💀
2021-12-08 14:51
not even a decent entry, nor does he have the best aim in the world kkkkk
2021-12-08 16:13
1 reply
2021-12-08 16:34
maybe better overall but not better for this team
2021-12-08 00:29
Flag and Flair
2021-12-08 00:43
motherfuckers don't realize how good of an igl fóllen actually is
2021-12-08 00:49
10 replies
He is a good igl but if Liquid don't want to play his game he is not the right player for them. Also his awp is not that good anymore, pretty low numbers on average. If they get someone like oSee fallen needed to go anyway
2021-12-08 00:59
9 replies
this is pretty much the only reason I see for them to pick up nitr0, there is no way he is going to come back after a year in valorant as a good player
2021-12-08 01:03
not necessarily. he can rifle more than alright. stewie and elige want to entry and to star, and also dish out wild hunches in the team's in-game calling. too bad for them. fallen will shine as igl elsewhere.
2021-12-08 09:28
7 replies
He had the opportunity to do so for years and didn't, what changed now?
2021-12-08 16:02
6 replies
yeah, man. liquid barely improved between the second semester of 2020 and 2021, right?
2021-12-08 19:19
5 replies
Improved from what? They had a slump after their very limited era in 2019 and has continued in that slump to this day. From their results there is no noticeable improvement in 2020Q2 through 2021 that can be attributed fallen, they had decent event results with the Nitr0 + Grim lineup. After the Fallen addition they actually had more early event dropout even after they'd had time to practice. Quick list * 7-9th BLAST Premier Spring Groups 2021 * 9-12th ESL Pro League Season 13 * 9-16th BLAST Premier Spring Showdown 2021 * 9-12th IEM Cologne 2021 * 7-9th BLAST Premier Fall Groups 2021 * 12-14th PGL Major Stockholm 2021 * 7-8th IEM Winter 2021 I am sure fallen can be good, not sure he will ever "shine" in another lineup
2021-12-09 09:34
4 replies
nitr0 + grim lineup? what are you talking about? grim joined 3 days after nitr0 left. IN COMPARISON to stewie's calling in 2020Q2, setups and strats improved a lot under fallen's calling from february and january onwards. and this should be obvious, but correlation is not causality. liquid's results are not entirely caused by in-game calling. elige and naf had big slumps in mid 2021, and grim could never come close to the level of play that twistzz had.
2021-12-10 22:12
3 replies
I am sorry, it was supposed to say Twistzz and not Nitr0. I don't agree with you and the fact that you are clearly biased doesn't make your arguments any better. Time will tell if Fallen shines in another lineup, he had all the building blocks available to him. Both Elige and naf has had above 1.10 rating for the last 12 months, but if there are in fact the problems that Stewie has been vocal about with Fallen, then why deny he hasn't performed well for Liquid as an igl? As said I am sure he can do good in another team, I don't believe there is any room for shining as I can't see a lineup he'd fit into.
2021-12-13 09:23
2 replies
from the start, the points you tried to make were based on false correlations, innuendo and, most of all, on baseless assumptions. here, once again, you are making a baseless assumption: that i'm biased towards fallen. and a cheap one too, i might add. actually, i've not only rooted against liquid, but it was one of the few teams that i actually bet money against this year. but it's a fact clear to anyone familiar with in-game leading that ct setups improved a lot under fallen, and that his t side calling struggled to keep pace at the beginning, but gravitated towards the meta and benefited a lot from naf's pristine afterplant play at the end of the year. given the fact that you think that an igl's prowess in measured solely on team placement and the own igl's rating, i can't help but reach the conclusion that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. i'm not gonna be rude or upset. i'm just gonna refer you to the work of apex and boombl4 this year, as they both shared fallen's certain struggle with selling fakes and gambling on t side, but shored up the calling very well. i've seen a lot of people on my country bash the shit out of them both a lot of times, especially in big games, because of fragging stats. but guess what? igls are supposed to have this stat dip on high stakes games where they tend to focus solely on the tactics and outwitting the other team. so i guess that's still a problem within the csgo community, as many people don't actually realize even how to evaluate their work. but i'd say fallen's time as an awper is long gone, since the meta is center on star awpers, and he has been a support player for a long time in his career. and i extend that criticism to cadian and jame also, as they're too supportive and passive for the current meta.
2021-12-13 16:01
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"from the start, the points you tried to make were based on false correlations, innuendo and, most of all, on baseless assumptions" Wait what, from what start? When I said he had the chance to shine, but didn't? My assumption that I only aired in the previous comment seem to fit perfect with your perspective. I never mentioned Fallens stats at all and I don't expect the IGL to have star performances, but you mention "elige and naf had big slumps in mid 2021". They didn't have big slumps really. They had 3 matches (!!) in the period of June through July where the game against NiP was sort of a lower low. As I previously mentioned the entire team are on one extended slump since end of 2019, no change in the roster has contributed to end this. They still struggle and afais Fallen hasn't had a huge impact on this. hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/123423.. Glad we can agree to disagree and I'd love to see him shine in another team as you very surely expect of him.
2021-12-14 09:10
0/8 both washed
2021-12-08 00:51
you are brazilian and right? you must fakeflag
2021-12-08 00:55
#68
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Slovakia xaboff
Meanwhile fallen will struggle to beat Astralis Talent in the quarterfinals of a SCAM.BET cup for 100€ with his op Brazil squad
2021-12-08 01:00
7 replies
liquid whot against them tho ... ez game
2021-12-08 01:46
6 replies
#102
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Slovakia xaboff
Can you repeat yourself? In English this time please
2021-12-08 03:16
1 reply
won*
2021-12-08 04:49
what the hell did you just say
2021-12-08 04:48
3 replies
won*
2021-12-08 04:49
2 replies
bro hes not talking about iem winter, it was a joke about fallen being shit and not being able to beat astralis talent (the academy team)
2021-12-08 04:50
1 reply
#120
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Slovakia xaboff
+1, I was talking about his rumored future team
2021-12-08 06:50
Just like how they plummeted when nitr0 left?
2021-12-08 02:09
+1
2021-12-08 09:28
#133
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Sweden SamBbbb
flag and flair
2021-12-08 12:54
0/8, flag
2021-12-08 15:55
0/8
2021-12-08 15:59
no only valve can save na cs
2021-12-08 00:13
11 replies
What exactly would Valve need to do it save NA CS?
2021-12-08 00:57
10 replies
Nothing they just say it. Because they need to blame someone.
2021-12-08 00:59
Remove NA tournaments so they won't embarrass themselves.
2021-12-08 01:02
I was actually being serious, I'm curious what this guy thinks Valve can do for the NA scene to revive it again.
2021-12-08 01:09
7 replies
Valve can't do anything. NA CS got fucked from covid, the players were gonna leave for Valorant with or without Valve because they could just make easy money there because of their history and status in CS that they would get signed. Which is exactly what happened. NA CS is in a rebuilding phase now. It just takes time.
2021-12-08 01:38
6 replies
I really hope it's just in a rebuilding phase. I think NA definitely has a home in CS.
2021-12-08 02:43
5 replies
It should or cs in trouble in the long run
2021-12-08 03:36
Considering NA is one of, if not the biggest source of sponsors/revenue then if it doesn't recover then CS as a whole is fucked. Its kinda dumb the amount of "Superior" EU dumbfucks (Not you, just in general) don't realize this. IMO, the NA scene will be fine. It just takes time to recover the amount of T1-3 NA pros that left for VAL when it came out. With some players coming back (nitr0, floppy, etc.) that should help with the recovery.
2021-12-08 04:41
3 replies
+1
2021-12-08 12:25
I mean we could compensate for that by getting in bed with the Chinese but thats a worst case scenario. Idk why Europe doesnt make English an official language of all countries, most of their population would benefit and it would interconnect us a lot more
2021-12-08 14:55
1 reply
True, the only problem with China over NA for that would be the skill difference. There aren't enough T1 Chinese players to sustain an entire region. Let alone thrive and profit. Chinese > NA in LoL NA > Chinese in CSGO/Valorant
2021-12-08 17:05
Of course not.
2021-12-08 00:13
I doubt but wish him the best
2021-12-08 00:13
#7
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United States hondayzx
no
2021-12-08 00:14
#9
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Poland Roxin
I hope so but that's unlikely
2021-12-08 00:14
No, he's just going to steal checks until he gets benched again. dude was bad his last half a year on CS, then left and was bad in Val, mock Tenz and Shazh but atleast they won something in Val.
2021-12-08 00:16
3 replies
#30
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United States I_AM_BETA
he won some sort of tournament i think. idk cuz i dont follow hentai game
2021-12-08 00:27
2 replies
#117
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Brazil Anarchybr
8/8 Name doesn’t check tho
2021-12-08 04:51
He won 2 fragadelphia level events in NA when the esport just started, as soon as fresh faces came to Val his team went into the gutter. He was supossed to make a Forest type switch and dominate the first few years of the game but only had a few good months at the very start of Val's competitive life
2021-12-08 16:40
Nah, theres a reason why he switched to val and he knows it. And now he's back to CS because of the same reason.
2021-12-08 00:15
3 replies
#47
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Finland HARD4ENCE
I think it more has to do with online CS. He wanted a change and was bound to come back when the LANs would eventually return.
2021-12-08 00:44
2 replies
He wasn't that good even before online CS. It's great to see him back, but its highly unlikely that he will be what NA needs right now. I'd be glad to be proven wrong though.
2021-12-08 00:51
1 reply
#57
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Finland HARD4ENCE
At least now he can focus on being a full time igl without the need to use AWP if Liquid will sign oSee. That could improve the team significantly.
2021-12-08 00:54
NO
2021-12-08 00:15
no
2021-12-08 00:16
Yes he can, nitr0 moves can initiate lots of people and bringing them up together but they should find their ground first
2021-12-08 00:17
2021-12-08 00:17
9 replies
I dont think he will
2021-12-08 00:21
he's an igl wtf do you want from him
2021-12-08 00:33
7 replies
2021-12-08 00:38
6 replies
He changed like 4 times his role. To entry, to igl, to awp to support then to valorant.
2021-12-08 00:53
2 replies
and its not a surprise either, he was bad in every role
2021-12-08 00:57
1 reply
he was the most important part of liquid
2021-12-08 15:53
how many grandslams do nafany and cadian have? cadian has never won a LAN, same with nafany let alone winning 4 major tournaments in a space of few months
2021-12-08 15:54
2 replies
5
2021-12-08 20:46
1 reply
thank you for correcting me
2021-12-08 22:32
no but it will be interesting to see what valorant does to his play style. Floppy came back and has looked very good.
2021-12-08 00:18
4 replies
floppy wasnt bad before he left
2021-12-08 00:19
3 replies
#21
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Netherlands Datsun510
+1 god floppers
2021-12-08 00:20
+1
2021-12-08 02:11
+1
2021-12-08 03:30
#20
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Brazil DoctorXD
The fallen won't leave Liquid... the way he's been talking lately I think the only one leaving Liquid will be grim
2021-12-08 00:19
9 replies
fallen 100% needs to leave liquid. hes way too inconsistent to be on this team.
2021-12-08 00:21
7 replies
#28
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Brazil DoctorXD
he "needs" to leave doesn't mean he wants to leave or Liquid wants him to leave
2021-12-08 00:24
6 replies
Liquid 100% are going to want him to leave. He's been a bot for 80% of their matches.
2021-12-08 00:25
5 replies
#33
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Brazil DoctorXD
liquid made a 3 year contract she certainly figured the first year could be bad. besides liquid can make a lot of money with the fallen he is "marketing" in person. I honestly think he spends at least another year or half a year at Liquid
2021-12-08 00:28
4 replies
No. If liquid had even half a brain, they try their hardest to get osee and drop this overpriced grandpa
2021-12-08 00:29
2 replies
#38
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Brazil DoctorXD
liquid has brain so fallen is there, only fallen marketing pays its own salary liquid will only make more money with it
2021-12-08 00:32
1 reply
#40
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Brazil DoctorXD
Attracting new partnerships and also liquid and FallenStore are close to closing deals for uniform sales in Brazil
2021-12-08 00:33
#135
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Sweden SamBbbb
Then he might as well retire from CS and become a marketing manager, because this dude is too washed for t1 CS.
2021-12-08 12:59
There's no way. The team has made it clear that they don't like playing together, and a ton of that friction comes from IGLs. Stewie is definitely leaving, and I would be really surprised if fallen didn't also leave. A 1.00 rating is unacceptable for a T1 awper, IGL or not.
2021-12-08 00:43
What would save NA would be young talent but everyone is going to VaLULrant Also Who can save NA CS is Valve, but don't expect anything from her
2021-12-08 00:21
4 replies
Ur right but some young players have stayed and it would be cool if na get some super insane player that can compete vs s1mple and zywoo, chances super low but would be like a movie
2021-12-08 00:22
2 replies
impossible, we would need the insane fortnite 12 year olds to switch en masse to cs.
2021-12-08 00:28
1 reply
Yup NA fortnite save NA cs imagine the headlines
2021-12-08 00:31
her?
2021-12-08 16:00
i dont think you can go straight into a t1 cs team from valorant, much less be an IGL i think nitr0 to liquid will be a disaster in the short term
2021-12-08 00:39
#44
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Brazil batcompany
Lulquid better bring on some dedicated awper bcs it's in the meta and Nitr0 is absolutely not a fragging guy.
2021-12-08 00:41
3 replies
if rumors are true it would be +vini/shox +osee +nitr0 which would be okay, but im really not a fan of the nitr0 move
2021-12-08 00:46
2 replies
It's okay if TL bring oSee and Vini, bcs it can activate naf N elige. Then, I think they'll have enough firepower and roles will be properly filled. There were rumour about shox but it wouldn't make any sense.
2021-12-08 13:01
1 reply
shox would be ok i think, but it depends on how well they handle role conflicts
2021-12-08 22:08
Only zombs can save NA
2021-12-08 00:46
He's joining Liquid, we all know that and it's the worst kept secret of the year. Do I think he'd be a good IGL for Liquid, sure just kinda depends on the pieces around him. It's looking like Liquid will be: Nitr0 EliGE NAF osee VINI I think with that line-up they'd be lucky to be top 15.
2021-12-08 00:46
11 replies
it's going to be shox instead of vini
2021-12-08 00:50
6 replies
vini join fallen cold and fer ???
2021-12-08 00:55
4 replies
i have no idea, but shox is rumoured to join liquid over vini, plus i heard that naf admires shox and looked up to him a lot in his younger years
2021-12-08 00:57
3 replies
yeah i agree shox will go to liquid im just curious where vini will go lol
2021-12-08 00:58
2 replies
The rumors were that the talks between Sh0x and Liquid cooled off... Not sure if he was wanting more than they were willing to offer or what.
2021-12-08 01:01
1 reply
#79
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Iceland suriel666
tbh i can't imagine shox going to liquid .. switching to english comms permanently and he probably would have to move to US. He's married, so his wife would have to come with him probably .. not sure about him joining liquid, it's so random
2021-12-08 01:16
the shox move just doesn't make sense.. he lives in france and has a family there (i know they could move but that just doesn't seem likely unless that's something that they've been wanting to do for sometime) and his english seems pretty hard to understand. vini would the move to make in my opinion but who knows
2021-12-08 02:17
Lucky to be top 15? Naf and elige alone can carry any lineup to top 15 lmao
2021-12-08 01:52
3 replies
Haven't been currently and they have FalleN and Stew... So, I stand by my lucky to be top 15 with the new potential line-up. I said what I said.
2021-12-08 16:00
2 replies
They are at rank 12 rn.
2021-12-08 16:37
1 reply
With FalleN and Stew, yes... Very good... nitr0, osee and VINI aren't better than the current line-up.
2021-12-08 16:47
#51
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Finland RPGWiZaRD
nitr0 is a likeable guy that had quite a few fans eventhough he was kind of average player most of the time, his impact is more outside the server imo so he's like very good at handling interviews and such on stages. I know that won't bring trophies but that was his best strength at handling press/media/audience etc. For a big team like Liquid that has its positives too as long as rest of the team has good enough players, ie. he doesn't have to be a star player if he can be like "perfecto" kind of guy on the server, filling the gaps. -Stewie2k +nitr0 is such a big boost to likeable ratio for the team as a whole.
2021-12-08 00:54
He is a case similar to Karrigan's, + brain, - aim, but having to readapt again to the CS competitive, he will have to have at least 2, 3 months to be charged with results... But let's wait for to see
2021-12-08 00:57
3 replies
But let's wait for t osee
2021-12-08 01:29
lol @ comparing nitr0 to karrigan
2021-12-08 14:50
1 reply
compared the case, not the players. improve your text interpretation
2021-12-08 22:13
#73
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Europe S0me_dude
He can't save what is dead LUL
2021-12-08 01:07
not likely NA really going to have NO teams in the top 20 soon, maybe even the top 30 if extra salt don't step it up a little and if liquid doesn't produce results immediately this is the lowest NA has ever been in CS:GO... even 2013-2014 was better
2021-12-08 01:13
#77
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Iceland suriel666
LOL washed nitr0 switches to VAL x washed nitr0 switches back to CSGO <--- we're here washed nitr0 switches back to VAL
2021-12-08 01:14
1 reply
That is implying that he will even be able to get on a team back in Val once the league structure is in place. Which he probably won't
2021-12-08 03:29
#80
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New Zealand sparkillz
idk how a discord subscription service is gonna save na cs
2021-12-08 01:18
honestly, who cares?
2021-12-08 01:29
#88
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Brazil Elakk
NA fans will get a reality check when he comes back and shits the bed
2021-12-08 01:50
11 replies
true but i wonder what need to happen so br fans get reality check
2021-12-08 01:53
10 replies
#92
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Brazil Elakk
I mean we have many up and coming teams and NA biggest org is putting its hope on nitr0...
2021-12-08 01:56
9 replies
KSCERATO, yuriih, everything else in brasil is irrelevant and you are super delusional if you think that you have many up and commers
2021-12-08 01:59
3 replies
#118
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Brazil Anarchybr
Imagine sleeping on saffee, dumau, b4rtin and latto lol
2021-12-08 04:56
2 replies
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
2021-12-08 12:51
1 reply
#143
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Brazil Anarchybr
Flag
2021-12-08 14:40
"many up and coming teams" literally who
2021-12-08 02:04
4 replies
Godsent are a sick upset team with potential to be consistent top 20 for sure. Saffee looks really good in pain gaming, even vs tier 1. Last time Furia had a consistently good awper they were top 10 and even peaked to top 5. Brazil is in a similar spot to NA rn, one decent team that needs some changes to be top tier again and a couple of decent tier 2 teams. Furia's changes are looking a lot more promising than the rumoured Liquid ones though
2021-12-08 03:27
3 replies
#119
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Brazil Anarchybr
+1
2021-12-08 04:56
BRA is in a far better place than NA
2021-12-08 14:51
1 reply
+1
2021-12-08 16:43
yes
2021-12-08 02:01
Only if the team is -nitro -osee -floppy -naf -elige
2021-12-08 02:02
1 reply
-floppy +Vini And we good
2021-12-08 12:21
No one player can save NA. The biggest problem is the lack of orgs
2021-12-08 03:22
no the guy played valorant whole last year or more. now is coming back to tier 1. this move is so bad, wtf i see that fallen maybe is not the answer for liquid. but JT, for example, is much better today
2021-12-08 03:35
paycheck stealer
2021-12-08 09:21
I never saw him as a particulary great IGL, but he does seem to have some magical ability to make others around him perform well despite not being the best player ever, so to some degree I could see him making Liquid a somewhat legit top 5 - top 3 team again.
2021-12-08 09:24
Unless he is the best IGL in the world, he is not going to do anything good for NA CS, his aim is tier 3-4, his understanding of the game is decent.
2021-12-08 09:29
nitr0 led liquid to victory on LAN multiple times until the player break, then they all suddenly fell off. he was really at his worst during the online era should no one should care about. either way he's a billion times better than FalleN with his completely outdated strats, plus elige loves him so elige will play good
2021-12-08 12:32
#138
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Poland Astoner55
How can he be the NA saviour if he is literally mediocre at best? I think Liquid picking him up again says a lot about their ambitions. They just want to be the best team in NA, which isn't hard if they're about to take the best AWPer in NA, and their only competition is fucking dead EG, lol
2021-12-08 13:03
lmao, nitr0 is dogwater compared to fallen, these gringos are crazy kkk...
2021-12-08 13:43
Yes he can, new Liquid doesnt have any gaping issues other than shox (just like current Liquid) but they could surprise.
2021-12-08 13:46
#141
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Palestine __rQ__
Respectfuly, no.
2021-12-08 13:52
1 reply
+1
2021-12-08 14:44
paycheck stealer like fallen, es3tag e others
2021-12-08 14:58
ppl are too biased do take any opinions here in account. brazilians think fallen is good. non brazilians thinks he is shit. US' thinks nitro is good. non US's think nitro is shit. everyone is wrong: fallen is good enough, both igl and awp but not the best in any. nitro is not bad at all as an igl imo. different but somewhat same tier igl as fallen but may be a better fit for TL, purely because synergy matters and you cannot force that in to ppl. seeing Elige bottom fragging tells us something sub optimal in TL. EU's opinion doesn't matter. the worse we get the better for them. Eu's want shox in TL, i mean....
2021-12-08 15:09
1 reply
+1 for this line: "(nitro) may be a better fit for TL, purely because synergy matters and you cannot force that in to ppl. seeing Elige bottom fragging tells us something sub optimal in TL. "
2021-12-08 16:46
#155
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Belarus Khosrau
He couldnt even save himself lol If liquid think he is the solution they should sell their good players so they dont waste their career
2021-12-08 15:19
I think Elige will get better if nitr0 comes back Elige loves nitro, the only person in CS:GO scene who elige likes lol, maybe elige likes naf also
2021-12-08 15:27
It's funny when ppl bring up accomplishments from years ago, and pretend like nothing happened since then. Nitro left because he wasn't good enough anymore. He'll be average at best. Prob stomp some t2-3 na teams and then lose to every good team.
2021-12-08 15:37
#158
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Australia sh4ww
i mean, if stewie stays they have their 2019 roster except they have their main issue fixed, having an awper but i dont think the skill is quite there for stew and nitro
2021-12-08 15:41
#159
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Canada firtlast
the only thing that can save NA is some kind of a salary cut if the top players don’t make the next major legends stage.
2021-12-08 15:42
nitro, elige, naf, floppy, osee can save NA
2021-12-08 15:58
2 replies
Floppy LOL!
2021-12-08 16:02
1 reply
lol what
2021-12-08 16:11
I wonder why people believe a washed up valulrant player can be the NA savior.
2021-12-08 16:05
#175
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United States Phamous3k
No. One player can’t save an entire region.
2021-12-08 16:14
I’d be really surprised if he could. Frankly he left to valorant because of his waning skills in CSGO (and money lul) and i really don’t know how playing a different game for 2 years will help him return better in CS. Not expecting much out of him
2021-12-08 19:30
Extra Salt will save NA
2021-12-08 22:15
idk but its better than nothing
2021-12-08 22:36
#199
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Serbia biTe19
Kinda i guess
2021-12-09 00:38
CaN NiTr0 sAvE nA?XDDD
2021-12-09 00:44
3 replies
nitr0=money>passion
2021-12-09 00:44
2 replies
yeah thats right XXXPAK1 you are so good with pro scene
2021-12-09 00:44
1 reply
ty im from 3 world country with no GF and bad english
2021-12-09 00:45
Unfortunately he couldn't maintain a 1.00 rating in an infant child's cartoon toy game, he needs to retire before he holds another team back.
2021-12-09 00:48
no -.-
2021-12-13 09:25
"Can Nitro save NA" -> No! It's NA, no one can save NA. :D :D :D
2021-12-13 10:45
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