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top-20 early prediction
blameF | 
CIS blameF_top2_fan 
it gets more and more random with every step. but here we go: 1) s1mple 2) zywoo 3) niko 4) sh1ro 5) hobbit 6) ax1le 7) electronic 8) yekindar 9) b1t 10) device 11) mir 12) blamef 13) hunter 14) jame 15) ropz 16) frozen 17) elige 18) twistzz 19) kscerato 20) degster im not sure about this year. if it was 2020, players like mir, blamef, ropz, frozen, elige, degster, kscerato wouldn't have made the list cos of lack of achievements, but this year is different. 3 achievements rule will definitely be broken so im ignoring it 2021's top is the most difficult to predict, all 19 picks except #1 are basically random all suggestion are based on stats from notable events (source of digits u see at pictures every year): hltv.org/stats/players?event=5608&event=..
2021-12-13 00:37
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#1
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United Kingdom mystix_08
tbh anything outside of top 4 i have no idea, you could make a case for any player really
2021-12-13 00:40
26 replies
true, and i don't know for sure how top2 - top4 players will be placed, this top is really wild, would be interesting to follow
2021-12-13 00:45
25 replies
top 3 is as clear as day this year, simple, zywoo, niko, who gives a crap about the rest.
2021-12-13 00:53
24 replies
top-2 could be clear but top-3 idk, there's real discussion between sh1ro and niko
2021-12-13 00:54
23 replies
i don't see how niko would be outside of top3.
2021-12-13 01:13
22 replies
#27
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World NukestrikE
i actually can... hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. and then count achievments and mvps...i think that niko is better than sh1ro but i can easily see sh1ro being ranked above him...and there is no way that niko can be above zywoo
2021-12-13 01:16
21 replies
Niko has been doin a lot better than zywoo what are u talking about.
2021-12-13 15:04
20 replies
#78
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World NukestrikE
not sure if trolling or trolling...
2021-12-13 15:13
19 replies
Niko is better 😉
2021-12-13 15:18
18 replies
#85
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World NukestrikE
keep telling that to yourself. wont change anything anyway and zywoo will be ranked above him. have a nice day, bye
2021-12-13 15:19
17 replies
Ok 👍🏼. Thats why vit kept telling zywoo to step it up but yea.
2021-12-13 15:23
2021-12-13 15:26
15 replies
#91
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World NukestrikE
bcs top20 is about last 3 months omegalul
2021-12-13 15:27
14 replies
U soo smart. Niko carried hes team to major finals. And zywoo has been playing bad lately like i said above.
2021-12-13 15:28
13 replies
#94
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World NukestrikE
ok my last post. bookmarked it for you so i can laugh even more later. till then bye
2021-12-13 15:32
7 replies
zywoo will be 3rd and niko will be 4th. bookmark this
2021-12-14 06:19
6 replies
i already did...and no, sh1ro wont be 2nd
2021-12-14 06:57
you were saying?
2022-01-22 20:17
4 replies
yeah i also bet on this xd
2022-01-22 21:49
3 replies
yea sure:D
2022-01-22 21:51
2 replies
really i lost 100$ cuz i bet on shire being above niko
2022-01-22 21:56
1 reply
tbh i thought that sh1ro will be above him as well:D but it was crystal clear that zywoo will be 2nd tho
2022-01-22 21:57
hey buddy whats up?
2022-01-22 20:17
4 replies
He got robbed its ok just like electronic. Niko will be 2 nd even better
2022-01-22 21:06
3 replies
yea yea QQ more...
2022-01-22 21:08
1 reply
False news trust me
2022-01-22 21:14
sure
2022-05-03 10:25
#2
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World NukestrikE
1st and 2nd is obvious but after it its pretty damn hard
2021-12-13 00:45
NiKo is not going to be in the top 3. No matter how good he has been individually, the team didn't win a single tournament
2021-12-13 00:46
2 replies
i was basing on fact that he attended all the playoffs and a lot of finals, dropping fantastic numbers. maybe sh1ro will overtake him with all his achievements, maybe not
2021-12-13 00:51
1 reply
#161
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Australia Sh1nenkai
sh1ro dropped amzing numbers to at tier 1 events too
2021-12-14 11:49
3) NiKo isnt going to happen. He may not even be above ax1le/hobbit btw
2021-12-13 00:48
9 replies
He will be above ax1le and hobbit 100%, but not above sh1ro.
2021-12-13 00:53
8 replies
His rating is barely better than them, and he has no MVP (Both ax1le and hobbit have 2)
2021-12-13 01:00
7 replies
NiKo will be above ax1le and sh1ro, you can comeback to this comment in january.
2021-12-13 01:03
6 replies
ok, I'll bookmark this :)
2021-12-13 01:04
5 replies
Ax1le and hobbit*. My bad I'm tired.He won't be above sh1ro.
2021-12-13 01:05
2 replies
Ok, I'll bump this still regardless of who is right. I won't bump it if NiKo wins MVP from Blast Global Finals tho because in that case he will be above them
2021-12-13 01:07
1 reply
#60
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Argentina Frannnnnnn
please remeember me as well
2021-12-13 04:10
Hello
2022-01-22 21:55
1 reply
hi!
2022-01-22 21:59
#7
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
imagine including blast groups but not the playins for kato & cologne
2021-12-13 00:51
1 reply
Is true, blast groups should be removed from all the rankings. I also feel like that V4 should be included to same level as something like rmr just because it was a lan.
2021-12-13 04:27
s1mple shiro niko zywo
2021-12-13 01:01
35 replies
+1
2021-12-13 01:03
#17
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World NukestrikE
omegalul
2021-12-13 01:04
32 replies
what is yours
2021-12-13 01:06
31 replies
#23
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World NukestrikE
1. s1mple(obviously) 2. zywoo. honestly its not even debatable anymore 3. sh1ro most likely 4-6. is kinda hard between niko, hobbit and ax1e but there is no freaking way on earth that zywoo wil be 4th. just no
2021-12-13 01:08
30 replies
zywoo wont be second.trust me bro
2021-12-13 01:09
29 replies
#25
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World NukestrikE
he will for 100% tell me 1 good reason why not? im just curious...
2021-12-13 01:09
26 replies
sh1ro more mvp,good ratings
2021-12-13 15:02
25 replies
#79
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World NukestrikE
so what that he has more mvps? s1mple had 1 in 2019 as well and was second. zywoo will be easily second you will see yourself
2021-12-13 15:14
24 replies
We'll see man.
2021-12-13 17:45
23 replies
i will be honest, its more like you will see bcs its kinda obvious. his stats are just way too superior to sh1ro... and btw im nowhere near sh1ro hater. he had amazing year. lan/online, doesnt matter but zywoo was the better player without a doubt
2021-12-13 17:50
22 replies
Just screen it bro
2021-12-13 17:54
Top players IN 2021 sh1ro was better than zywoo IN 2021
2021-12-13 17:54
20 replies
how was sh1ro better individually? tell me...he has more achievments but no way on earth that he was the better player lol. ok will bookmark this for you...
2021-12-13 17:55
19 replies
as i said. just wait till jan 17-19
2021-12-13 20:48
18 replies
yea sure we will wait and then we can talk about it but you still can answer me how was in your opinion sh1ro the better player this year. not more successful with his team(because he clearly was more successful) but better...
2021-12-13 20:49
#152
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France HoxjE
Sh1ro not even top3 1.18 rzting on lan and 1.08 impact ahah even niko >> Sh1ro
2021-12-14 02:57
7 replies
french kids being toxic
2021-12-14 13:31
haha gambit beat vitality lets see the 2021 top 20 bro
2021-12-19 01:40
5 replies
(btw i hate russian teams )
2021-12-19 01:40
#169
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France HoxjE
Cool story, mark this thread, shiro would be even very lucky if he makes top3 this year, niko way better on Lan
2021-12-19 01:59
3 replies
told u s1mple sh1ro/niko niko/sh1ro zywoo
2021-12-19 02:05
2 replies
Lol bro i dont care niko's place. We complained about sh1ro or zywoo will have better placement sorry for my bad english im drunk,sad and lonely
2021-12-19 02:06
#172
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France HoxjE
Its easy to check the ratings man, zywoo is 1.3 rating and 1.33 on elite events, shiro is 1.23 and 1.19 on elite events / lan with very low 1.09 impact when zywoo is 1.40+. Even without zywoo's mvp he would have been top2, sh1ro is fighting for top3 as Niko is 1.26 rzting on Lan and shiro is only 1.18. Mvp are only used when players are close in rzting but if hltv prioritize LAN events then shiro has no chance even to be top3.
2021-12-19 08:49
whats up now?
2022-01-19 20:01
8 replies
virgin
2022-01-19 20:03
7 replies
haha so mad
2022-01-19 20:06
6 replies
dont care i hope fnatic will be good this year
2022-01-19 20:07
5 replies
yea i can see how you dont and didnt care...cant even admit that you were wrong lol
2022-01-19 20:08
4 replies
im happy 4 zywoo. but i think sh1ro was better thank niko this year for sure
2022-01-19 20:16
3 replies
i thought that sh1ro will be above niko tbh...
2022-01-19 20:18
2 replies
okaay? it would be a flex or what? tell ur GF i hope she admire it
2022-01-19 20:33
1 reply
your virgin comment was way better...
2022-01-19 20:34
#56
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Indonesia FinZzz
He will tho and that iem mvp pretty much confirms it
2021-12-13 03:27
1 reply
xd
2021-12-13 15:01
+1
2021-12-13 15:51
kscerato above hunter, twistzz, elige, mir, frozen, yekindar and maybe blamef and b1t.
2021-12-13 01:02
15 replies
LMAO what did kscerato accomplished this year to be above all of this players? didn't even make into a final.
2021-12-13 01:03
1 reply
what did twistzz? and elige? and mir? and blamef? just look the stats bro. he was insane in big events as major, epl 13 and 14.
2021-12-13 01:05
#33
Jame | 
France masnoi
Above twistzz, elige, mir, blameF of course, maybe above hunter but above B1T and Yekindar is bias af
2021-12-13 01:35
2 replies
is questionable, you know? they have the same stats/acomplishments basically
2021-12-13 02:14
1 reply
Same accomplishements? Yekindar is sitting at way better stats then kscerato, and has won an event this year. Bit has won many lans, the major and a grand slam.
2021-12-19 10:25
I would be surprised if he even makes the list
2021-12-13 01:41
1 reply
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK what a joke
2021-12-13 02:10
Biased. Mediocre rating against top tier opposition is what cost xantares a spot last year, and let me remind you, xantares won 3 trophies and reached a lot of 3-4th places Kscerato has 1.04 vs top-5 and what did he win? Nothing. I don't know if he'll even make the list. Everyone u mentioned performed way more and way more consistent against top-tier opposition. Except maybe mir, but he's also a questionable candidate
2021-12-13 02:06
3 replies
aint lost time with you cuz i dont need this.
2021-12-13 02:12
2 replies
Yes, just keep being a deluded fan
2021-12-13 06:04
1 reply
I'm just rational and know when the player deserves or not to be in the top20, because I followed all the tournaments of the year and saw the performance of all, ie it is more of an INDIVIDUAL list, even if furia has not won anything, kscerato deserves YES to be in a great placement, same thing blamef and elige last year.
2021-12-13 07:04
0/8
2021-12-13 15:35
3 replies
why?
2021-12-13 15:45
2 replies
my bad i didn't see the maybe part
2021-12-13 15:46
1 reply
dont worry bro, and I'm not even trying to be a clubist bro, I'm just trying to pass on the information that kscerato deserves to be a little more valued, because his season was INSANE even with of furia's problems.
2021-12-13 15:49
Naf???????????????????? He was better than Elige this year
2021-12-13 01:20
2 replies
+1, idk if elige will make the list this year, but naf really should.
2021-12-13 02:11
1 reply
+1
2021-12-13 06:25
ropz frozen?
2021-12-13 01:20
broky where
2021-12-13 01:20
1 reply
Fixing awp misses
2021-12-13 01:29
#32
Jame | 
France masnoi
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE TO PUT ROPZ IN YOUR TOP 20 TELL ME PLS SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME HOW COME THIS GUY WOULD MAKE YOUR TOP 20
2021-12-13 01:33
3 replies
yeah i get your frustration. For me Ropz and frozen can barely make top 20, like 18-20ish and frozen maybe higher cause of the mvp
2021-12-13 02:16
2 replies
#47
Jame | 
France masnoi
Ropz not even trying to hide that he have no motivation to play for mouz for like half a year, no mvp, third best mouz rating on major mostly boosted by this game vs renegades (who?)
2021-12-13 02:27
1 reply
yeah
2021-12-13 02:45
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro 3. ZywOo 4. Hobbit 5. NiKo 6. Ax1Le 7. electronic 8. dev1ce 9. Jame 10. b1t 11. HuNter- 12. YEKINDAR 13. CadiaN 14. Ropz 15. stavn 16. TeSeS 17. NAF 18. mir 19. EliGE 20. Twistzz Potential players: BlameF, REZ, Frozen, KSCERATO, degster, misutaaa
2021-12-13 01:49
3 replies
#145
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Europe _pedrin
Kscerato will be top 20 for sure, better than mir, elige and twistzz this year, even with furia problems
2021-12-14 02:18
1 reply
Ye but he's played significantly less important tournaments than the others, that's why I put him in potential. I am though, confident that the first 17 player will make it, albeit in a different order.
2021-12-14 04:42
This is so dumb. All of the heroic players have low ratings. Zywoo will be second, sh1ro will be 3rd. Yekindar is better then jame, b1t, and device.
2021-12-19 10:27
biased top oSee should be in top20 m0nesy in top10 at least
2021-12-13 01:40
1 reply
saffee top5
2021-12-13 15:45
hltv.org/stats/players?event=5608&event=.. I believe this list might be better I don't think the qualifying events will be included
2021-12-13 02:15
8 replies
+1 good list
2021-12-13 04:59
1 reply
thanks
2021-12-13 05:01
they will be included 100%. This is the correct one hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01..
2021-12-13 05:09
2 replies
No way electronic falls that low
2021-12-13 15:15
b1t not in top20? I'm not sure
2021-12-19 10:36
#105
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China RADNIKEY
The ranking isn't made purely by rating obviously, but Heroic at 18,19,20 would be pretty funny.
2021-12-13 15:47
2 replies
That is just a list of players ranked by their rating but we all know that is not the true list. At least it gives us an idea from where to start
2021-12-13 16:05
1 reply
#111
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China RADNIKEY
Yeah of course
2021-12-13 16:10
#44
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Argentina Lukem_Fan
Electronic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ax1le
2021-12-13 02:17
1 reply
Yeah, IDK why these guys think Axile with bad performance in all big lans overtakes Elec who clear second star in top1 team.
2021-12-14 06:10
#45
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Argentina Lukem_Fan
NAF over degster for sure
2021-12-13 02:18
also, yeah, this year is kinda hard to predict the list. At least I know what names will enter top 15 ish for sure, but I am not 100 % sure about the order. from 15 to 20 its basically picking with closed eyes
2021-12-13 02:19
#48
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Poland msfalif404
Stopped reading at, b1t
2021-12-13 02:29
1 reply
ez for b1t !
2021-12-19 10:37
#49
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Denmark Kon10R
Who cares anyway ... It's a T E A M game.
2021-12-13 02:32
+1 best top 10 ive seen
2021-12-13 02:50
#52
REZ | 
Russia inough
zywoo is not second this year for sure
2021-12-13 03:03
19 replies
#53
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France HoxjE
He is, s1mple and navi were better he cant be top1
2021-12-13 03:10
18 replies
#54
REZ | 
Russia inough
i think he is gonna be lower than niko/sh1ro, i am not saying about battle of s1mple vs zywoo, i know that s1 is exactly top 1 this year
2021-12-13 03:13
17 replies
#57
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Indonesia FinZzz
Zywoo won iem mvp just now, pretty much confirms he will be #2 or #3 at the very least
2021-12-13 03:29
#58
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France HoxjE
Why would Niko be over Zywoo when zywoo has better stats everywhere by a Huge margin and 1 mvp, why would sh1ro be over Zywoo with only 1.22 rating and 1.08 impact, very bad performance onLAN (1.18 vs 1.30+) for Zywoo and only has 2 Tier2 mvp that no one cares about ?
2021-12-13 03:55
14 replies
#59
REZ | 
Russia inough
i thought that sh1ro and niko has better stats or at least similar but they arent, my bad tho
2021-12-13 04:08
13 replies
Since lan started niko does have better stats. Zywoo hasnt been playing like he usually does.
2021-12-13 15:08
12 replies
#113
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France HoxjE
Wtf ? Ahahah Zywoo has better stats than Niko On Lan man just check Hltv wtf
2021-12-13 16:45
11 replies
Last 4 meeting’s niko dominated zywoo and vit.
2021-12-13 18:39
10 replies
#121
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France HoxjE
Why do you change subject, we talk about top20 hltv 2021 160+ maps not 6 maps of 2021
2021-12-13 18:41
9 replies
Niko had rough time at the beginning of the year just like zywoo had last couple months. Zywoo is def one of the best but he hasnt played at well. We all know simple 1st no questions. 2nd they might give to zywoo cuz the last 2 years even know shiro had a better year than zywoo and niko
2021-12-13 18:53
8 replies
#133
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France HoxjE
Wtf are you even talking about, rating of both s1mple and zywoo is 1.30+ and ahead of everyone, no one is close to them they are in a category of their own, niko and shiro are both around 1.20 rating very far from zywoo and s1mple
2021-12-13 21:27
7 replies
Ur dumb. U really think all they look at is rating bro your retarted. Shiro accomplished a lot more than zywoo this year.
2021-12-13 22:24
I know u like zywoo cuz his french but he hasnt accomplished shit this year. Blast will determine between shiro and zywoo
2021-12-13 22:26
5 replies
#137
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France HoxjE
fking braindead, rating is the number 1 criteria for the individual ranking, MVP are only used to seperate players that are very close in stats like in 2020 for s1mple and zywoo. Sh1ro literally has only 1.22 and 1.18 rating on LAN with 1.08 impact rating, he will be really lucky to be top3 as Niko played way better on LAN, and Zywoo has as many Tier1 MVP as sh1ro, no one cares about CIS rmr qualifier mvp ahahah, go to bed kid you have no idea how the ranking works just go watch the ranking of 2019 dev1ce that was 1.30 impact, 3 MVP tier 1 and major mvp / winner that got only top3 behind s1mple
2021-12-13 23:12
4 replies
Hahahahah ya french are something else. Are u on ur period lmao
2021-12-14 01:51
I bet u 2 monesy is #2 100 $
2021-12-14 01:57
zywoo took top-1 in 2020 just cuz of EU rmr LUL, every single tier-1 event except IEM winter had CIS team in it, so CIS rmr mvp = EU rmr mvp
2021-12-19 09:03
1 reply
#183
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France HoxjE
Like i have said nobody cares about your mvp if you have a very bad rating especially on Big events, 1.17/1.07 impact not even top10 player on big events (shiro)
2021-12-19 09:45
#104
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China RADNIKEY
Probably not considering the last even win/MVP
2021-12-13 15:46
#55
mch | 
Brazil uezu
top 1 saffee source:yes
2021-12-13 03:14
Definently one of the better list I have seen someone post. I feel like Blamef and Mir cannot be ahead of Ropz and Jame, but then again at this point I'm not even sure if Ropz will be ahead of Frozen.
2021-12-13 04:15
#63
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United States joke_cs
No OSee no party
2021-12-13 04:39
I hope degster gets on a better team/org he def deserves it
2021-12-13 06:33
kscerato and ropz tooooo low but pre good list overall
2021-12-13 06:48
Device top 10 kekw in a year that he played worse than lambert
2021-12-13 06:58
Bro degster💀...he was good at t3 then had a honey moon a did a ace vs astralis and then 1.13 at every match
2021-12-13 07:07
#81
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Brazil Anarchybr
KSCERATO should be higher and also why is elige making on this list? Took him out and put NAF on it. Also yuriih > degster and frozen
2021-12-13 15:16
1 simple 2 shiro 3 niko 4 zywoo 5 electronic Top 5 here
2021-12-13 15:17
5 replies
#151
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France HoxjE
Nt
2021-12-14 02:56
3 replies
Lmao it’s confirmed 100%
2021-12-14 11:45
2 replies
#166
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France HoxjE
Nt
2021-12-14 15:17
#201
NAF | 
Asia aref81
Yeah but there is a small chance for niko#2
2021-12-19 10:42
#200
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Korea mercvry
+1 but not sure about electronic or Hobbit for 5th...
2021-12-19 10:41
#83
b1t | 
Belgium zne_
20) degster whats your job man? comedian? you have potential
2021-12-13 15:17
#86
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Brazil Nicolito
stopped reading at 3. NiKo. He will be top 4 or 5 at best.
2021-12-13 15:20
#87
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Denmark slacking
yekindar won't be top8, maybe 13-14 and shiro top3
2021-12-13 15:22
Niko is the better player over sh1ro but i doubt he will be placed higher. But one can always hope.
2021-12-13 15:25
1 reply
Only simple is better than niko right now
2021-12-14 02:01
blame over k0nfig? I think not, maybe last year, but not this.
2021-12-13 15:27
no way mir and blamef are above hunter, also I think sh1ro has no3 on lock with all his event wins and MVPs
2021-12-13 15:33
#98
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Portugal TimiKS
i think misutaa should be in the list
2021-12-13 15:36
Ax1le bot should never be higher than electronic.
2021-12-13 15:37
#102
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China RADNIKEY
wtf is degster doing there, it was fine before that
2021-12-13 15:46
Just remove online events, ez ranking.
2021-12-13 15:50
#109
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Denmark Rubix__
Refresh, Stavn,????
2021-12-13 15:52
1 reply
refresh?brooooooooooooo
2021-12-13 18:55
frozen,mir too high in the list, b1t > yek, twistzz at least top14
2021-12-13 16:11
I feel like Roej should be in the top 20. I realize ill get roasted for this.
2021-12-13 17:49
#122
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United States Jeebur
S1mple Sh1ro Zywoo NiKo Hobbit Electronic Axile device Jame B1t Yekindar ropz Hunter frozen kcserato Twistzz EliGE degster NAF rez This was my pretty rough 2021 top 20 (was made right after the major so stuff could change especially towards the bottom) I took Lan Rating, Online Rating, Team Success/Event Success and MVPs into making this
2021-12-13 18:42
6 replies
#143
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Canada Sneksist
dont care about rest but NAF>EliGE this year easily
2021-12-14 02:03
1 reply
#146
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United States Jeebur
both have basically the same stats this year but these last tournaments could change it
2021-12-14 02:33
no way man. zywoo is definitely top2, axile>electronic, yekindar>bit.
2021-12-14 02:47
1 reply
#156
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United States Jeebur
it was made before he got the mvp
2021-12-14 05:12
#199
NAF | 
Asia aref81
No way degster makes it to the top20
2021-12-19 10:41
1 reply
#202
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United States Jeebur
1.18 on LAN 1.19 online, he was solid the whole year besides this end point where spirit fell off. List was also made a while before that
2021-12-20 19:49
#136
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United States Azaqa
anyone with zywoo at #2 is honestly recency bias, he was extremely average for 6 months if not longer and hasn't won anything all year
2021-12-13 22:29
2 replies
He got really great rating and a lot evps, that is enough. shiro can't compete with him if you know who ranked top2 between simple and device.
2021-12-14 02:49
#150
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France HoxjE
You call 1.30 rating average ? xD nt kido
2021-12-14 02:55
#138
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Denmark Mursten
damn that's the first list I've seen that is actually good
2021-12-13 23:14
Lmao people are getting so pissed here lol. Who gives a rats F whos 1st and whos 20th.
2021-12-14 02:00
delusional, kscerato at least top 10
2021-12-14 02:04
Bit is so overrated this year reminds of twistzz a couple years ago
2021-12-14 02:36
#153
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Denmark orwelles
top 3 has to be s1mple niko zywoo. just on a different level from the rest.
2021-12-14 03:24
2 replies
sh1ro >>>> niko this year
2021-12-19 09:01
1 reply
#203
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Denmark orwelles
at exit fragging
2021-12-23 16:47
9 - b1t 10 - device...
2021-12-14 05:05
#162
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Australia Sh1nenkai
where is b1t his lan peformacne is on par with electronic, s1mple, niko and zywoo and i bet hltv isgoing to value lan peformance alot
2021-12-14 11:55
Mir might fall down the ranking due to him not being on spirit last months?
2021-12-14 11:55
1 reply
#192
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Australia Sh1nenkai
he wont even make it cause he hasnt played many tournements that will be counted towards your rating for the list hltv top 20 only accepts (speculation since this is from previous info on past top 20 lists) rn its looking like: cs summit, katowice, proleauge s13, dh spring, cis epic leauge, iem summer, cis starladder rmr, blast spring final, iem cologne, proleague, iem fall cis and eu, major (not challengers), v4 festival (cause ther wsa some top 10 teams), blast fall final, iem winter, blast world final so mir has played only 8 of them, and also inactive for the past 2 months. so no way he is making it with only half the tourenemts played and it aint even good stats he averages 1.15 rating, good but only half tournements played, prob no evps from them other than an rmr, and it aint good enough to put him in the list, this goes for the other spirit players and players like el1an who is a beast but hasnt played much of the allocated events where as the gambit players have played 14 of them.
2021-12-19 10:33
imagine putting degster in top 20 ahahahah
2021-12-14 12:00
looks good but you forgot stavn and maybe rez/hampus
2021-12-19 08:56
3 replies
stavn maybe, close to top-20 maybe 18-22, but rez and hampus??? rez kinda top-25 humpus not even top-30
2021-12-19 08:59
2 replies
hampus had crazy good impact, decent stats, and rez had pretty solid stats. they won iem fall and placed decent at a few tournaments, would probably replace degster in 17-20
2021-12-19 09:07
1 reply
iem fall tier-3 event, no CIS team no even tier-2 event, CIS dominate this year, so it doesnt count he only have 1.04 rating there is no way he is gonna be in top-20, rez yea maybe replace degster
2021-12-19 09:13
1) s1mple 2) zywoo 3) sh1ro 4) nikp 5) ax1le 6) hobbit 7) electronic 8) jame 9) yakindar/ropz/blameF 10) yakindar/ropz/blameF 11) yakindar/ropz/blameF 12) d1vice 13) b1t 14) kscerato 15) hunter 16) twistzz 17) mir 18) degster 19) naf 20) fl1t
2021-12-19 08:58
#178
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Canada go1x1n00b
How can you make top 20 list without nafany? You put degster, kcerato, ropz, frozen, blamef but not nafany? Wtf
2021-12-19 09:07
#181
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Brazil TodoFuro
Looks like this year there are too many good players. I dont know if the online era helped with it, but there are at least 10 teams very competitive. Players as well, even in teams t2 and t3. Players with amazing stats and performances. It will be very hard to choose the players and the ranking. In my opinion, the major has a big role in this. Its the biggest tournament of the year and one of the few lan ones. I bet the major will influence a lot in which player to pick.
2021-12-19 09:16
#182
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Denmark Rubix__
bro refresh is beter than degster
2021-12-19 09:25
#184
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India taco9873
refrezh instead of degster man he's so good
2021-12-19 09:50
Electronic is top5 (at least)
2021-12-19 09:50
Overall a pretty good list, but there are some errors: Degster will not even be close to making top 20 Mir will be in the bottom top 20 if he even makes it Hunter is too highly rated Bit will be top 17-12 If you have elige, you should also have naf there. Naf should also be low top 20
2021-12-19 10:21
1 reply
good prediction except b1t
2022-01-22 21:59
year is basically over how is it an early prediction
2021-12-19 10:23
Where is dan1? xD I'm joking, but this guy or someone from BJ next year will be on top20 trust me. Just look at this! youtube.com/watch?v=3teLGJRTBvo
2021-12-19 10:24
Degster mir blameF lol
2021-12-19 10:25
#193
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Turkey EydeX
Shiro is second if we look at the whole year
2021-12-19 10:33
3 replies
Lets see
2022-05-03 11:41
2 replies
#234
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Turkey EydeX
bro wtf :D
2022-05-04 15:10
1 reply
Man sh1ro is top1
2022-05-04 15:13
#196
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Korea mercvry
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro/NiKo 3. sh1ro/NiKo 4. ZywOo 5. Hobbit 6. electronic 7. Ax1Le 8. YEKINDAR 9. B1T 10. dev1ce 11. stavn 12. Jame 13. huNter- 14. mantuu 15. nafany 16. Twistzz 17. ropz 18. El1an 19. hampus 20. Perfecto
2021-12-19 10:39
3 replies
#198
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Asia aref81
No mantuu but others are reasonable
2021-12-19 10:40
#204
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Indonesia FinZzz
Zywoo at 4th? Wtf
2021-12-23 16:52
Why would zywoo ever be that low?
2022-01-23 00:58
#197
NAF | 
Asia aref81
Degster and mir lmao
2021-12-19 10:39
Almost)))
2022-01-22 21:07
zamn!
2022-01-22 21:10
1 reply
#220
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Poland sunba
zolera indeed
2022-01-22 21:13
nt nt
2022-01-22 21:52
almost rip mir and frozen mir should be #20 and frozen 15-19
2022-01-23 00:53
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