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POOR KYOJIN
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Europe Sw1ftcs 
This kid has never played pro and played pugs only and all of a sudden he is in T1 team playing against some of the best players. Give this kid a fucking break he has such potential to become good if these haters didn't put so much pressure on him. The kid is such a calm humble shy player and as a human i can only imagine how much pressure he has knowing hes being called all sort of names by the community.
2021-12-16 22:09
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2021-12-16 22:10
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#65
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Canada go1x1n00b
Goatyojin
2021-12-16 22:53
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#123
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Ukraine Christoo
Who asked?
2021-12-17 02:19
some cheater. jking he is good tho.
2021-12-17 06:27
#2
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Austria Ostmark
he'll have a break don't worry
2021-12-16 22:10
6 replies
hahahaha
2021-12-16 22:45
+1 xaxaxa
2021-12-16 23:29
Paid holydays at that
2021-12-17 02:20
xddd
2021-12-17 02:20
+1
2021-12-17 06:08
ahahahaahahahhahaahahahah
2021-12-17 06:28
#4
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Serbia eliiiiii_
he has a career ahead of him compared to all the other failed rookies like LNZ, ztr, Lucky etc.
2021-12-16 22:10
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#6
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United Kingdom VeryUKCSguy
Lucky has more of a career imo. But as rifelr
2021-12-16 22:11
All of them have the potential to do well. Just because someone got thrown into the deep end and "drowned" doesn't mean they won't eventually learn how to swim. For some people it comes naturally, some especially so, but for most that isn't simply isn't true
2021-12-16 22:19
1 reply
+1
2021-12-17 01:14
#46
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Slovakia VladO.
failed rookies? dude they are all 18-19 years old lmao, do you even use your brains in Serbia?
2021-12-16 22:41
3 replies
A rookie is based on how long you played. All brand new high level players, so they were/are all rookies. frozen/sergej would be examples of people the same age that are not rookies due to experience. djoko was a rookie when he got picked up by dbl poney even tho he was way older than 20. It was because it was the first team that he was on a high level team.
2021-12-16 22:51
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#89
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Slovakia VladO.
I understand that very well, that's why I am confused as to why he is labelling them as failed, as they haven't even had the time to develop yet
2021-12-16 23:05
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#109
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Brazil noytt
imagine if people said B1T was a failed rookie from the time he was the 6th player, they just need time to learn and develop
2021-12-17 00:58
+1
2021-12-16 22:10
poor team vitality. their management came up with the brilliant idea of forcing them to raise and train a T0 pubs player in T1 tournaments somehow; dooming their chances for trophies. kyojin already had the time of his life as a pro player playing way above his league, stealing T1-team paychecks and earning ez semi finalist/finalist money while bottomfragging. you had it all backwards. no player in cs history had the luck to go from a noname t5 pubs player (while showing no huge potential) to stealing paychecks in T1 except him.
2021-12-16 22:17
13 replies
This +1 You can always say no. This guy is talking like he is being forced to play.
2021-12-16 22:14
You playing silver mm daily and all of a sudden you get offered into a team where they pay you 10k a month, you as an absolute bot would take the opportunity like everyone else. That does not give you the right to mock and insult surten individual based on their lack of experience, if you disagree with this statement than my friend you did not receive enough ass whooping.
2021-12-16 22:19
9 replies
so why are you feeling bad for a dogshit player getting overpaid? oh no hes getting a lot of hate for playing bad and getting criticised despite the fact everyone will forget about it in a month after hes gone. he secured the bag.
2021-12-16 22:26
?? kyojin can steal, but we the spectators cant laugh? are you that stupid? do you even know the "logic" youre trying to present? i know deep down you see yourself in this exact situation. Miraculously signed to a pro team while not having the talents for it. you wish to steal paycheck as long as possible but not get mocked for it too. you cant have it both ways dude. put up or shut up
2021-12-16 22:36
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Yeah really funny when you mock someone right, its also hilarious when you insult someone just because he is inexperienced in a video game. Lets blame the guy who accepted the contract to take the opportunity to play in a T1 team instead of blaming the ORG itself for even offering him the contract. Its not like the ORG is paying him the money its you who pays him the money so i understand why you people would hate him that much.
2021-12-16 22:43
6 replies
actually i do blame the org, and it was my very first sentence in my first comment. they have no clue what "a player with potential" looks like, and simply invested into a random guy with above-average aim who is decently young, hoping he would turn out to be the next star. but kyojin himself, having benefitted from high pay, leaped into the country's best team out of nowhere, dragging it down for a whole year, and replacing a well liked player (le tank) someone who had it this good CANT possibly avoid mocking.
2021-12-16 22:50
5 replies
If the org is to blame than why should you or anyone even hate a guy who is trying his best but doesn't get far due to not having much experience? Why does he deserve to be mocked and insulted when he is trying his BEST, its not like he is trying to bring the team down on purpose? If you were in his shoes wouldn't you accept the contract, and wouldn't you feel really GREAT when the whole community is insulting you because its funny right..
2021-12-16 22:51
4 replies
you have to realize, being subjugated to laughter and mocking by the crowd is part of an athlete/competitor's job, real sports or video game. if there hadnt been so many silly viewers watching, the tourney organizers wouldnt make any money, and conversely the pros wouldnt get paid nearly as much either, and then there wouldnt even be a competitive scene to begin with. in what normal world could playing video game gets you paid, if not better paid than a lot of hard, laborious jobs? only a large pool of immature and toxic could this happen, and that goes for actual sports' audience let alone a video game's audience - so you are only being naïve for getting upset over the natural ways of things. and yes, if i was in kyojin's shoes, i wouldnt give a flying fuck what kids are saying about me since im getting paid 10k+ a month + prize money LOL. its like winning the lottery while getting stunk by flies. its all surface noise so who gives a fuck? in fact i bet you care more about hate towards kyojin than kyojin himself does. grow the fk up and find something better to be upset about lol
2021-12-16 23:17
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Stopped reading after first sentence, cba to argue with an abvious troll.
2021-12-16 23:19
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you always stopped reading after first sentence, because you know the more you read the more you idiotic logic gets dismantled, and your poor little heart cant take being dismantled and views forcibly shifted. one day when your weak little mind grew strong enough to read past someone else's the first sentence youll realize there is nothing to feel sad for about kyojin, LOL.
2021-12-16 23:26
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So much ego for a nobody who thinks its funny to mock and insult individuals, that's basically what your people are known for. You're not the person to talk about "little heart" when you're the one who has none of it. Based on your absolute digusting logic it is compleletly fine to insult and disrespect someone and in fact its really funny according to you. Real fucking hilarious to bully surten individual trying his best but can't succeed. Once you grow up and try to be funny towards the wrong person you will realise that there are borders and people can be hurt emotionally and after you get that whooping that you should have gotten long time ago you'll realize there is a difference between acting to be a big man on the internet compared to real life. You're abviously baiting and if not you need serious mental help. Im not gonna respond since i already showed you your placed. OMEGALOL
2021-12-16 23:44
#39
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Nepal askyee
yeah he's playin bad but he was definitely showing huge potential based on those highlights. Did u even see his aim on those videos?
2021-12-16 22:31
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Aim is the least important factor in pro cs dude. who cant aim in pro cs? who cant instant HS? who cant be sick online? what tier 3 player cant cobble together a few clips for a highlight playing against T5/pubs? picking him for "good aim" was precisely the reason that this roster move turned out for the worst. he cant hold any sites for shit, he barely contributes to the team. thats why he bottomfrags almost every game. having good aim means nothing. knowing how to get easy kills mean a lot more. he is the easy target in T1 despite sick aim because of his lack of understanding and experience.
2021-12-16 22:43
"kid" He's 22
2021-12-16 22:13
9 replies
sshh dont tell him that. It'll make him cry, hes afraid of facts
2021-12-16 22:14
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Ironic, aren't you the one with triggered nerves spamming my threat cause i stated a fact??? =D Keep punching the air bud.
2021-12-16 22:20
#24
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Korea Haachama
You act like anyone above the age of 19 is a boomer
2021-12-16 22:19
6 replies
he's a legal adult and isnt even the 2nd youngest on his team
2021-12-16 22:28
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#41
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Korea Haachama
22 is nowhere close to old
2021-12-16 22:38
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in csgo terms is about the age you reach your peak usually
2021-12-16 22:38
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If you start at 15/16. Some players started later.
2021-12-17 01:00
PwnAlone
2021-12-17 01:13
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xiter xiter1111
2021-12-17 01:22
This is professional sport environement, if you play bad its only your fault, Vitality gave him chance, he failed, there is nothing to complain about.
2021-12-16 22:18
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he got paid so much money for doing a lousy job too
2021-12-16 22:19
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Ok? Who's fucking fault is that? Stop with this tired "paycheck-stealer" as if it's a real thing. The org makes all the decisions regarding his employment and paycheck. If he's overpaid, that's their fault.
2021-12-17 01:15
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It is a real thing and you shouldn't cry about getting made fun of by dumbasses on hltv if you aren't doing your job and still getting paid way more than you should be.
2021-12-17 01:54
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I don't care about criticism or being made fun of, it comes with being a pro. I only objected to unironically calling him a paycheck stealer, which is nonsensical.
2021-12-17 02:17
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Did he do his job properly?
2021-12-17 02:18
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Yes?? When he is hired by the org, it's his job to play cs for vitality. That obv means, practicing with the team, working on his individual level, showing up to games, etc. It's not his "job" to have a certain rating or to win a specific clutch. All of this is a gamble on the orgs side. If he isn't doing the job well enough (which in this case means the actual results on the server) he can be fired or cut, which is happening now. No paychecks stolen.
2021-12-17 05:54
Nah, he looks completely lost even after like 8 months in Vitality. The most brainless player in tier 1 for sure.
2021-12-16 22:29
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Silver opinions kinda irrelevant :D
2021-12-16 22:45
And zywoo says " hold my baguettes, i go kill'em'all"
2021-12-16 22:30
#43
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 and he is imporving so much
2021-12-16 22:39
#44
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France zarlemci
every hltv weeb fell in love with him it seems
2021-12-16 22:39
TRUE. I SAW POTENTIAL IN KYOJIN, HE IS TALENTED KID
2021-12-16 22:41
#49
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Albania hardcoar
BOT Kyojew he's not bad tbh
2021-12-16 22:42
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#83
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Australia Australis
kyojew ayy lmao
2021-12-16 23:03
He should play some tier2 cs tbh. Gain the confidence and then smash some heads at tier-1. Cuz even now after such a long time in vitality he's still kinda lost, on t side especially. His aim is sick but gamesense and consistensy is not on his side atm.
2021-12-16 22:44
yea
2021-12-16 22:45
#54
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
probably he is a star player material, not someone who can do RPK's job properly
2021-12-16 22:45
6 replies
+1 The kids these today often just need the pro experience and they are insane
2021-12-16 23:02
"star player" cant even spray normally
2021-12-16 23:05
4 replies
hahahahahahah
2021-12-16 23:07
#104
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
I knew someone gonna have a problem with this, his aim is good, but needed to play in a key player/star position to unlock his true potential, but sadly they gave him different role
2021-12-16 23:36
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You expect Vitality to put kyojin in star positions when you have misuta/shox and the Mr woo?
2021-12-17 02:41
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#141
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Ofc not. I'm assuming he could do that in a different team
2021-12-17 12:50
#58
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Slovakia VladO.
what do you expect from 90-and-below iq HLTV users who've been watching pro cs for a year at most? Kyojin has been playing top-tier cs for 8 months lmao, he's doing pretty decent considering his experience and the roles he plays in vitality if you say otherwise you are either delusional, stupid, or baiting (or all three)
2021-12-16 22:47
4 replies
birdfromsky is much better
2021-12-16 23:01
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birdfromsky is playing against t1 constantly ?
2021-12-17 01:02
#133
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Indonesia FinZzz
+1. These kids dont even watch Kyojin at all. They just look up stats after game and says his trash
2021-12-17 06:08
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#139
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Slovakia VladO.
exactly, I haven't been following pro cs since 2020 and it took me a single match to realize that kyojin hate is absolutely undeserved
2021-12-17 12:23
because of him only all french team will be dismantled.
2021-12-16 22:54
#74
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Finland Finn777
He has decent aim but no brain. Still they are winning matches so Vitality should keep this roster even kyojin
2021-12-16 23:01
+1
2021-12-16 23:01
#80
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United States Azaqa
I feel bad for him being thrown straight into t1, but at the same time ur honestly wrong he doesn't have potential beyond being an offbrand scream. He has just no gamesense whatsoever only aim. Same as tenz was. He should go to valorant he would be the best player by far tbh.
2021-12-16 23:02
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iunno about that last line
2021-12-16 23:08
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#106
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United States Azaqa
Hes like tenz but even better aim, all that seems to matter in valorant is aim so
2021-12-17 00:52
#113
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Brazil Lok72
and about the first? a shot in tier 1 is everything a pro player wants
2021-12-17 01:08
Ah yeah, the cheater who was instantly forgiven when Vitality recruited him and said he was legit. Yup. Indeed.
2021-12-16 23:04
Well I got nothing against him but he's just no there yet.... It sucks but that's what it is...this guy got a nice aim and good potential, but him game sense, teamplay, and anything required in t1 is pretty much lacking.
2021-12-16 23:05
#96
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Sweden DonGatsby
Tbh as a rookie he has been playing very well, ofcourse people are gonna hate for no reason
2021-12-16 23:16
Kyojin is the new DEV1L
2021-12-17 00:54
#108
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Russia 1578
yeah he definetly having a break soon infinite break from tier1 cs
2021-12-17 00:54
He is getting better, but it is true, his gamesense and teamplay are not that good. Honestly, Apex uses him as a bitch : put him entry fragger, decoy for him in Mirage. So, it doesn't help to built his confidence. It is like Lucky who should be awping, but he is "practicing his rifle".
2021-12-17 01:07
#117
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Iceland suriel666
he's an ex-cheater that only got cleared because Vitality has connections as a big org
2021-12-17 01:17
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#140
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Mauritius Parasyte
Spitting facts here
2021-12-17 12:30
#120
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Argentina UnluckyNN
i dont think he doesn't have the potential, its just there are better players playing in tier 2 that deserve the chance more, he got his chance and didnt use it. Look at b1t, look at phzy having a real impact and earning their place
2021-12-17 02:16
genuinely think he'd be better in valorant or something. cant see any top org picking kyojin up from vitality in cs if it took over half a year to get nawwk a team. and it isnt even a good one LOL
2021-12-17 02:23
For 8 months he was a constant liability and weak point in an already top heavy Vitality team. Does he have a future? Maybe. He was thrown in the deep end in a tier 1 team replacing a rock-solid player, it was always going to be hard. While the firepower is there, everything else is so underdeveloped, raw and completely unpolished.
2021-12-17 02:31
tier 1 player
2021-12-17 02:34
Either you got it or you don't Source: b1t
2021-12-17 06:02
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#135
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Indonesia FinZzz
It takes time for youngsters to become good Source : misutaaa
2021-12-17 06:09
1 reply
You proved he's bad Source: you
2021-12-17 06:17
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