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dennyslaw | 
North America joeS 
I was glad to wake up today and see that Jason Lake and Complexity decided to skip out on CPHF and try to build an NA roster. It's time to go back to the orgs roots, and to stop trying to build international or foreign "juggernauts". Build a solid T2 farmer that can compete in T1 like Extra Salt. Might just become a fan again.
2021-12-20 16:49
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coL Grim coL floppy coL Stanislaw coL obo coL Junior
2021-12-20 16:50
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CoL JKS CoL AZR CoL Jkaem CoL Stewie CoL Autimatic
2021-12-20 16:55
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-AZR (Stewie IGL) + oBo I think they will want the 'core' (so at least 3 player) to be NA
2021-12-20 16:58
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#30
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Asia Torsyen
who awping
2021-12-20 17:13
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Auti
2021-12-20 17:13
obo tr8or
2021-12-20 17:29
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+1 obo very risky investment for every big org
2021-12-20 17:37
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obo is poison for any organization to touch. His stunt last year running away because things were hard should show every team out there what kind of a person he is.
2021-12-20 17:49
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give him a break he was 16-17 yo and long time away from his home
2021-12-20 19:00
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Yup and most 16-17 year olds would LOVE to be away from home playing video games for a living... The kid is soft and will certainly crack again under ANY kind of pressure.
2021-12-20 23:30
+1
2021-12-20 18:58
#56
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Canada loldougie
LMAO complexity would NEVER pick up oBot again
2021-12-20 17:46
#80
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Mauritius Parasyte
Can we stop with azr
2021-12-20 19:01
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Why? Just look at the massive improvement Renegades had when he started IGL That Renegades / 100T lineup didn't have much firepower compared to the other top teams at the time, JKS was the only real standout star, That says a lot about both AZR and Kassad being able to build a good team system
2021-12-20 19:20
i'd love to see auti back in action
2021-12-20 19:27
#48
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Brazil infatico
Fallen fer VINI boltz fnx
2021-12-20 17:30
stanislaw is a total waste of time tbh
2021-12-20 17:51
#111
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Russia ToughGuy
Solid tier 5
2021-12-20 23:35
Source ?
2021-12-20 16:51
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Thanks, It could be interesting.
2021-12-20 17:10
1 reply
yes hoping for the best
2021-12-20 17:19
#22
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United States dexzzz
Source 2 Engine
2021-12-20 16:57
#4
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Germany iBUYPOLAND
not a bad take, gather good NA talents and let them farm tier 2 NA events until they are ready for stuff like Pro League
2021-12-20 16:51
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#7
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Europe S0me_dude
Ready for 0-5 ? I'd rather invest into some Brazilians, at least they're passionate about game kkkkkk
2021-12-20 16:52
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no thanks
2021-12-20 16:53
#110
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Brazil aeeio
+1
2021-12-20 23:34
There are a lot of people farming tier 2 eu events and they are not ready for pro league so why would random NA team farming NA tier 2 which is skillwise like EU tier 5 be ready for TIER 1?
2021-12-20 17:35
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#51
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Germany iBUYPOLAND
Because they would get the slot for free of course theyre probably gonna get faked in Pro League but it would be easier to get there, so they can at least gain some experience
2021-12-20 17:37
#5
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
flag checks out
2021-12-20 16:51
#6
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Indonesia lukerey
If they willing to commit into EU maybe it's a right thing to do. Because eventually a lot of LAN events will be on EU. It's easier to built international/juggernaut rosters from EU players. Maybe mix it with some NA players.
2021-12-20 16:52
Source?
2021-12-20 16:53
#9
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Pakistan LoOuU2
get Party Astronauts , they good
2021-12-20 16:53
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+1
2021-12-20 16:54
I agree, but -ben1337 +grim
2021-12-20 16:56
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#18
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Pakistan LoOuU2
doesnt Ben IGL though ? but i agree , put Cynic on that role and we good.
2021-12-20 16:56
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does he?? I could have swore pwnalone was igl+awp but I might be wrong
2021-12-20 16:57
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#23
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Pakistan LoOuU2
nah i am sure it isnt Pwn , he wasnt even main awping that much before but he does it over Cynic now most of the times. Ben has been like a Hunden of NA in tier 3
2021-12-20 16:58
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maybe not best to get rid of him then since NA IGL's are hard to come by. I still think maybe 1-2 fraggers should be upgraded to grim/obo/autimatic/rush
2021-12-20 16:59
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#123
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Pakistan LoOuU2
well the 3 other than Djay and Ben do be doing fine so has to be one of those to leave.
2021-12-21 14:08
#70
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United States Goob
ben is the igl
2021-12-20 18:29
#126
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Finland expertmen
They should bring them to EU to grind tier 2-3 tourneys and prolly - PwN, even though he is the best player on the lineup, but he is just too old for an awper. I would give him the role of analyst or another role that is about performing. Then, just a young AWPer that has potential: Minus from ATK? Another solution is giving the AWPer role back to cynic and bringing a rifler that has potential. Kinda worried for djay also, but right now I don't really know, who from NA could take his role.
2021-12-21 15:25
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#128
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Pakistan LoOuU2
yea i mean i love Pwn but it really is the fact that he is kinda pretty old , how much longer would he be able to perform ? Giving awp to Cynic back and getting someone like Marke (Grim would have been perfect but he is going to new Complexity in place of Marke) would make the perfect sense. Djay has been pretty underwhelming but lets start off with one move at a time , maybe Extra Salt picks these guys up ?
2021-12-21 15:37
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#131
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Finland expertmen
I will prolly expect that Extra Salt will get cynic, ben and infinite and keep MarkE (they'll give him djay's roles) and Sonic (back as an AWPer). There's a possibility that they'll decide to take BNB over Party Astronauts ( with - Spongey, + MarkE, Sonic), but personally I would take Party Astronauts' core. IMO best would be the solution that you mentioned, but I'm not mistaken, Sonic is prolly coming back to CS:GO (his twitter game atleast suggests that). and yikes, PwN will turn 31 in under a month.
2021-12-21 15:51
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#133
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Pakistan LoOuU2
well i would definitely prefer PA over BnB too if Junior does leave and Sonic back for real is a good addition as well tbh , maybe not even necessarily as an awper. Experienced and reliable player out there , but it will be sad to see PA without the 30 year old talent!
2021-12-21 16:18
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#134
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Finland expertmen
well, let's hope that PwN could get a some kind of role in ES
2021-12-21 16:40
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#135
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Pakistan LoOuU2
lets really hope so !
2021-12-21 16:41
#14
b1t | 
Belgium zne_
not signing CPH roster is best decision Jason Lake did in his life
2021-12-20 16:54
#15
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Europe S0me_dude
Bad move from any perspective, best NA players are in Liquid while rest are t3 EU at best, they should invest into BR or even cis team if org not willing to go EU again but then again, if management don't have top 5 ambitions anymore then it's fine
2021-12-20 16:57
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Bruh, Chokocheck just washed brazil and they don't even take the game serious. I'm good. No thanks, move on
2021-12-20 16:56
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#20
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Europe S0me_dude
But mens(( I'm leaving this thread !
2021-12-20 16:57
Extra salt
2021-12-20 19:28
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#86
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Europe S0me_dude
Too good for NA but too bad for T1 EU
2021-12-20 19:30
Its gonna be almost impossible to build a full NA team that can compete with EU. They already have jks who is a two time top 20 player as a lurker so I think the smart move is to keep him. IMO IGL - Stewie Lurker - jks AWP - Auti or Junior Support - oBo (if they wanna bring him back) Entry - Jkaem This is still an NA core while getting a better lurker and entry than you could probably find in NA right now
2021-12-20 17:01
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Holy based
2021-12-20 19:28
only way ill become a coL fan again
2021-12-20 23:58
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I just wonder if jks would even want to stay with CoL after this shit show
2021-12-21 00:35
#27
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Brazil infatico
Fallen fer VINI boltz fnx
2021-12-20 17:03
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flag
2021-12-20 17:13
#49
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Norway Snaids
Top 400
2021-12-20 17:34
better than last dance for sure
2021-12-20 17:21
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#46
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Brazil infatico
Fallen fer VINI boltz fnx
2021-12-20 17:30
Last dance would make them a lot of money tho
2021-12-20 18:49
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lots of views doesnt always mean lots of money
2021-12-20 18:49
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More money than Copenhagen match fixers At least last dance has fans and so they would have better marketing
2021-12-20 18:56
faNg floppy junior jks JT
2021-12-20 17:23
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baiter dumb baiter dumb
2021-12-20 17:24
Better take cis talent and make a team. Mir, lollipop, degster, magix, wonderfull... There is a lot more talent than in NA.
2021-12-20 17:24
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no thanks its time to go back to NA
2021-12-20 17:25
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The best thing they can do is buyout ES and get cerq to replace osee or go for junior. There is not a lot to build around in NA.
2021-12-20 17:27
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there actually is though. grim, obo, autimatic, RUSH, Stewie, All of EG, Party Astronauts, BNB
2021-12-20 17:29
They should get XTQZZZ, shox/NBK & DBL Poney -ex3rcice
2021-12-20 17:25
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no thanks thats a retirement home
2021-12-20 17:26
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? Reply needs to have actual content
2021-12-20 17:28
Not true, Valorant is where the old washed up csgo players go.
2021-12-20 22:32
#47
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Brazil infatico
Fallen fer VINI boltz fnx
2021-12-20 17:30
#40
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Romania Mavericckk
maybe LookingForOrg will work? they've been playing really good recently
2021-12-20 17:27
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yes they also have jks, free upgrade
2021-12-20 17:45
#43
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United States ilkym00th
Infinite (entry) Minus (AWP) Obo (Star) Ben1337 (IGL) Rush (Support)
2021-12-20 17:29
they should sign obo again at this point :d
2021-12-20 17:44
copenhagen flames suck but also na cs suck he should invest in valorant
2021-12-20 17:48
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they already had a valorant team
2021-12-20 17:49
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then he should invest his money in george floyd nfts why waste money on na cs there are only enough good players for 1 org liquid
2021-12-20 17:49
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0/8 nt tho maybe he can sign Venezuelan team? oh wait lmao too poor to afford pc go play runescape for your career m8
2021-12-20 17:51
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im clearly not venezuelan north america is dogshit at csgo and valorant, dont be emotional and call me rude names, your region is funny
2021-12-20 18:02
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"clearly not Venezuelan" >has vene flag youre a special one arent you?
2021-12-20 18:04
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no one has ever fake flagged on this website burger
2021-12-20 18:12
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you still are fucking retarded. >clearly not venezuelan Learn to read/write/use brain and come back
2021-12-20 18:13
#129
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United States Phamous3k
You fake flagged Venezuela Lol. I’m super curious what third world ur from lol.
2021-12-21 15:41
#69
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Bulgaria Stoyan_g
Na just has lower iq and thats why they will never be good cuz too dumb
2021-12-20 18:25
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this entire sentence structure is worse than a 5-year-old.
2021-12-20 18:30
#73
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Latvia emzijs
they should try to bring in some NA guys from vaLULrant, maybe they find something interesting and good
2021-12-20 18:32
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only guys who should come back from valo are Xeppa and Leaf
2021-12-20 18:34
love the guy tryna revive na
2021-12-20 19:25
Actually not a great idea to invest in NA Csgo but if they did, they can probably come up with a cheapass t2 team. Few young talent and veterans are available. Good talent- FaNg, Floppy, Infinite, Wolfy, Junior, obo Good experienced veterans stewie2k, jks, rush, JT, stan Just an opinion
2021-12-20 19:41
Stewie Obo Jks Junior Rush
2021-12-20 19:44
Jkaem oBo Deko/w0nderful Rush cynic/nexa I would give a 1 month trial to cynic , people sleeping on him just cuz he plays in tier 3 NA but he has been pretty impactfull for a IGL
2021-12-20 20:02
It would be nice to see some orgs put some work into NA to try and grow it again.
2021-12-20 21:27
any reason why they changed their mind for CPHF?
2021-12-20 21:27
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0-16 to nemiga
2021-12-20 22:20
1 reply
well they deserved it
2021-12-21 15:00
#99
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Brazil guelzy1
I told them to
2021-12-20 22:21
but they taking na team instead so they even stupider than they would be picking cphf
2021-12-20 22:35
1 reply
+1
2021-12-20 22:51
#106
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United States kalimbo
I agree man. Even if a new Complexity is T2 team from NA I'd rather watch that then some foreign guys who don't even speak English
2021-12-20 22:52
#107
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Trinidad and Tobago r41
they signing old Fiend with Kaluber and dreamer man
2021-12-20 23:02
+1 fan base will grow with a solid na team
2021-12-20 23:04
cph is so bad, they cant achive more with 0.8 rating igl
2021-12-20 23:53
thank god, cphf is not good
2021-12-20 23:55
Where did you see this? I hope it's correct cuz I was saying this 3 weeks ago
2021-12-20 23:56
Stew Grim RUSH junior *Brehze/oBo *Brehze is probably going to valorant though, but obviously he'd be the first choice for a star NA rifle who's available
2021-12-21 00:39
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