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b1t no MVP
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France pickpick 
I read this argument all the time for why he shouldn't be higher than ax1le or hobbit, but he's playing with s1mple electronic got only 1 MVP his whole career because of that
2022-01-14 20:32
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#1
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Yes, b1t shouldnt be higher than hobbit or axile. And its not just because of mvps
2022-01-14 20:33
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#10
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Albania Mgoldfish1
yeh just his first half of the year.
2022-01-14 20:39
#12
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Bosnia and Herzegovina lousooo
ruski fakeflagger... you were exposed many times, ruski fakeflagger
2022-01-14 20:41
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#26
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Canada Femtal
he's not wrong though
2022-01-14 20:57
#30
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1
2022-01-14 21:20
could have been the major mvp, but sasha was too op at the finals and the semis. however, almost all of b1t's lans are his evps
2022-01-14 20:33
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But electronic was after s1mple at major, not b1t
2022-01-14 20:53
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after the vitality game, b1t was leading the major statsboard, actually. He had a 1.44, then S1mple had 1.40, elec 1.38
2022-01-14 20:54
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Did major ended after vitality game? No, so who cares.
2022-01-14 20:55
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yeah, but it doesn't take away b1t's godlike performance
2022-01-14 20:55
Lets hope he will get one in 2022, this is gonna be a hard year for navi. Harder than 2021 imo.
2022-01-14 20:35
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#9
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
it would be beyond difficult. Elec got 1 mvp(and they lost that event), and he played with s1 for years. B1t would have to show something phenomenal in order to get his mvp
2022-01-14 20:39
#4
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Russia Pneuma
MVP/EVP don't have any weight at all by themselves. The only thing they display is how high of a peak a player showed at a tournament. So mvp can be equal to evp in any day considering the context
2022-01-14 20:36
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so his major and blast evps are better than both of hobbit's mvps pretty much
2022-01-14 20:38
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#8
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Russia Pneuma
Kind of
2022-01-14 20:38
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tbh makes it even more ridiculous that b1t isnt ahead of yekindar, at least to me
2022-01-14 20:40
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yekindar has crazy stats tho (KPR, ADR, impact) and has an almost-MVP from Katowice and he has overall better rating than b1t
2022-01-14 20:42
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in my book lan > online. Plus the way impact rating calculates u cant possibly have high impact in a team with s1mple and electronic in ur team really unless u win an event without losing a map (lol)
2022-01-14 20:51
#19
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Russia Pneuma
I think Jame and B1t were pretty close, but the main thing YEKINDAR was far better than Jame is that his rating were increasing with increasing of tournament relevancy. The higher stakes it was the better YEKINDAR and B1t played unlike Jame whose rating only decreased with big-elite events. This is why Jame's rating values lower and YEKINDAR's much higher. The remaing stats such as Impact and overall rating made YEKINDAR to be higher
2022-01-14 20:48
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imo b1t's form defines whether navi are gonna clap everyone or not, cuz s1mple and elec are always mostly delivering, so b1t was a key to their winning form and thats definition of actual impact in my book. Plus b1t doesnt have high impact rating exactly opposite reason why yekindar has 1.30, one has teammates to share space with, other doesnt. tho "eyetest" is subjective thing i know
2022-01-14 21:12
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#31
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Russia Pneuma
The reason why NaVi became dominant can lay upon not only b1t's performance but upon some other things that are impossible to figure out. When he joined NaVi finally felt that they have a complete line up with no weak links which gave them huge confidence and motivation. The other thing is LAN comeback. Resently NaVi proved to be not an online but a LAN team and I don't think that this is a coincidence that took place with b1t's joining since thay won IEM Kato 2020 awaiting for 1,5 years of online Era for LANs to comeback. As a Navi and B1t especially fan myself I don't underestimate b1t's part of their dominance, I consider him only as a great acquirement for team but not as a key factor of this success
2022-01-14 21:29
Hobbit likely has an evp from major and its possible that YEKINDAR also has one.
2022-01-14 20:45
b1t shouldnt be higher than ax1le and hobbit because he wasnt better than them in the 12 months of the year (not just for 3-4 months)
2022-01-14 20:37
b1t shouldn't have been top10 at all. Tooo many rookie mistakes. People forget about them because navi went godmode and he has good aim. He is a nr15 in my eyes, defo not a nr9
2022-01-14 20:38
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#13
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Bosnia and Herzegovina lousooo
0/8
2022-01-14 20:41
#18
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Fiji Keqing
+1 lmao he’s good but he only became really good in the last 3 months
2022-01-14 20:47
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#29
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CIS ateezy
not last 3 months. He has been delivering since starladder rmr
2022-01-14 21:20
#28
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CIS ateezy
u r right about his mistakes, but top9 is absolutely deserved because unlike those who were placed lower he performed when it mattered the most (not only farming stats on early stages against weaklings) and what is more important far more deep runs where b1ts impact cannot be overvalued, because after him becoming full-time player, NaVi always made it into finals (except EPIC league against radarhackers)
2022-01-14 21:19
#15
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United Kingdom fal36
if s1mple wasnt on navi he still wouldnt have an mvp cus they would go to electronic
2022-01-14 20:44
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Yeah. There was only one tournament whole year where B1t was second best player of his team. Usually he was third best with occasional fourth placing within his team.
2022-01-14 20:47
#20
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It has nothing to do with MVP's when it comes to Hobbit or Ax1Le being higher than B1T, though... Even without the MVP awards, there was no way B1T would rank higher than either player given how well Gambit played throughout the entire year and B1T not even playing for all of it.
2022-01-14 20:50
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