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actual liquid tier 1 fix
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Switzerland fakeflaggo2 
1. get shox the fuck out of this team: he is old, washed, has a shit mental and most of all is not the role they need. they desperately need aggressive entries, not 0.99 rating old baiters 2. sign obo: top-tier roleplayer, improved every team he's been in while playing awful roles 3. poach boros from endpoint: extremely aggressive, young, and talented entryfragger. _exactly_ what they need. under a t1 org and with guidance from veterans like elige and naf he will become the next yekindar
2022-01-14 23:51
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#1
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Lithuania Scanixon
You cant fix something that is dead source: I'm banned from the cemetery
2022-01-14 23:54
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how come
2022-01-14 23:55
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sexing other corpses
2022-01-15 02:43
#3
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Poland Astoner55
As crazy as it sounds after reading it twice I actually have to agree with you, although boros would be a huuuge risk. I'm thinking someone like Yekindar would be PERFECT if they had the money (and if Yekindar would even want to leave, because iirc I read somewhere that he really want's to stay VP at all cost because he believes they will be the best in the world), this team could potentially be a major contender. But that's just my opinion!
2022-01-14 23:57
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pretty good opinion of course yekindar>boros, but like you said, I don't think VP will sell him for anything in liquids budget
2022-01-15 00:00
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Poland Astoner55
Exactly. But a man can dream, right...!
2022-01-15 00:07
I would guess Liquid has the money, but I wouldn’t want to be the only non-native English speaker on the team, and if YEKINDAR does leave, he should do it for a top tier international project with a real vision, like FaZe or G2. (Preferably FaZe)
2022-01-15 00:22
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Poland Astoner55
I think team Liquid consisting of Ellige, Naf and oSee (3 best NA players right now imo, not counting Twistzz cause he is playing in europe, if he had counted he would've taken the 3rd place), with Yekindar as probably the best raw entryfragger rn, tied with electronic (they're beasts mens), with ellige leading, as he already has a leader personality (and said he could try it iirc), and oBo being the young gun that is improving himself all the time would be better than FaZe with struggling Rain and outdated Karrigan... and even better than gambit tbh. I see this team as the first team in NA's history that is able to produce an ERA. Their rivalry with NAVI would be amazing. But we can only dream, because they're getting nitro and shox, two outdated guys. Not a bad idea, they can surely click together, but honesty I think they will not find success with this roster, sadly. Young guys proved to be better. Look at Zywoo, 18yo top1 on his debut year, look at gambit youngsters, look at b1t, look at yekindar, look at m0nesy (although he has to prove himself on tier1 LAN and stupid G2 fans tend to forget that, somehow), look at stavn, look at misutaaa, look at sergej in 2019, look at s1mple in 2014, look at torzsi right now, look at how mouz nxt developed, look at young CIS players, look at new european talent. It's always the new that changes it all, and they still opt for the old, already failed players. But they can flourish, they very well can win some thropies. I just don't think we're talking ERA here, rather top5 at best...
2022-01-15 02:37
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Poland Astoner55
And ~top18 at their worst, cause I think they could win no more than 2 big trophies this year, but they would be a consistent playoff team had they found their form))
2022-01-15 02:42
#48
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Greece RedWinter
Liquid probably has the biggest budget in the scene bro. They were more than willing to pay for Monesy + ropz
2022-01-16 12:38
Isn’t Endpoints whole thing that they want to stop selling up and coming players? Cuz they have that legacy clause in their contracts right?
2022-01-15 00:20
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e: i read your comment wrong, but i hope they dont. nertz also deserves a much better team
2022-01-15 00:29
Legacy clause means free money for his teammates if he gets bought so there is incentive for his teammates to continue being feeder team, I doubt any of them will make it to tier 1
2022-01-15 00:41
#32
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Scotland Azaqa
no legacy is basically if the veterans of the team train young players when they get sold they make part of the money from the buyout, they're still fine with selling their talent afaik its just to be fair to their veterans who are developing the talent
2022-01-15 04:31
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so now their focus will be on scouting young players to make money instead of winning
2022-01-15 04:38
#38
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Sweden Lagge15
Like mentioned in #32: the legacy clause is for members who stay for certain time and also fulfills some other requirements. The whole idea is for incentivising bringing up 1-2 players and sell them on for a profit. It is kinda like the post-Fifflaren NiP but where they actually got a plan for the players they bring in
2022-01-15 08:21
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Bahrain Ax1yn
BOROS amazing player, It's actually surprising other organization hasn't picked him up yet, Endpoint is literally a dogshit team other than Nertz, It feels like it's just BOROS and Nertz carrying the whole team every time, IMO these both players need to get upgraded to different organization and with better players. Last year he also missed IEM Fall due to Visa issues, sad times.
2022-01-15 00:26
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Endpoint want to stop selling their young talented players though, according to #6 (and I’ve read that somewhere myself too)
2022-01-15 00:27
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Then, GGWP its fucking sad players like BOROS and Nertz deserve better organization and better teammates.
2022-01-15 00:29
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Idk if they slowly build a team around them it can turn out well imo. But if they insist on keeping two or more UK players and no insane new UK talent shows up from out of nowhere then it could indeed be GG
2022-01-15 00:46
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#45
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England julz!
they literally arent even a uk team anymore lol
2022-01-15 15:20
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cruc1al adopted uk citizen at this point
2022-01-15 15:22
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#47
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England julz!
true but still its clear endpoint dont care about being UK core anymore, they just care about getting random young guns
2022-01-15 15:23
Nertz literally played 12 maps and u talking about carrying :)
2022-01-15 15:16
oBo LOL
2022-01-15 00:26
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you obviously either started watching cs in mid 2021 or have no idea what you're talking about. young, talented, and very clever player victimized by a dogshit EG (michu was also very mistreated, like always. cerq, daps, stan and brehze disgusting paycheck stealers)
2022-01-15 00:31
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michu was all aim no brain player lol
2022-01-15 01:09
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not sure what you base that on but ok👍
2022-01-15 01:10
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#30
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Albania Zhurma
did u watch EG games?? literally every single fucking round on dust 2 on ct side he would DRY peak LONG with an M4 when HE KNEW the enemy was POSTED with an AWP his aim is the only thing carrying him and that's not even the best
2022-01-15 04:10
#33
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Scotland Azaqa
actually just facts, michu is so terrible he has above average aim and faceit lvl 8 game sense, always doing some braindead shit throwing huge advantages
2022-01-15 04:32
I think we should let liquid play a few events before we decide on changes
2022-01-15 00:35
oSee is fine but idk about shox. Nothing wrong with shox but I think oBo would be good. He does well in the harder roles and still has potential to grow.
2022-01-15 00:41
+1
2022-01-15 00:42
Liquid tier 1 fix: Kick shox and beg for stewie2k to return. The problems with him came from igling and elige infighting, nitr0 is the clear leader and is back to be the boss. Also double asian buff with osee, he is the key to NA achievements like grand slam and major, etc. Or they could’ve gotten floppy, fang, obo, or any other young NA player instead of a 30 year old french guy who’s there for a paycheck, god damnit.
2022-01-15 01:07
obo doesnt fit in liquid
2022-01-15 01:08
Obo 100% over Shox, has to happen. I'm calling a 6 month trial phase, no playoff appearances, -shox +Obo (if he isn't slotted into any other NA team beforehand)
2022-01-15 01:10
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while nitr0 elige naf obo osee is an improvement, IMO they need to cut one of the boys in favor of some new blood
2022-01-15 01:11
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Really? Elige and NAF are still top-20 players though, Osee just needs to prove himself in T1, and Obo had consistently performed above average on Col and EG. That really only leaves Nitr0, but who else from NA do you get to be your IGL? Surely not Daps or Stan, Stewie as an IGL didn't work out, maybe JT? But then again, Elige and NAF are notorious for being hard to lead, would be a lot for an up and coming IGL I'm not sure, after Obo for Shox if changes needed to be made I think you'd either have to drastically change the entire team, or look for expensive replacements from EU
2022-01-15 04:00
They should’ve kept Grim
2022-01-15 02:44
#31
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Korea Axiotimos
Didnt know the boros guy existed until now, but wow he is a beast
2022-01-15 04:27
#34
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Brazil ImReverx
source: BOROS
2022-01-15 04:33
Neither of them is ready for tier 1. Boros is the "next yekindar", xaxaxa sure and I'm the brother of Jesus Christ.
2022-01-15 04:43
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oBo already proven on t1 scene in coL
2022-01-15 15:11
obo probs playing valo rn
2022-01-15 08:01
Fang > Boros
2022-01-15 09:25
Shox english is good, but i doubt that he can understand native speakers in game like naf Elige
2022-01-15 15:16
No
2022-01-15 15:17
#44
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Philippines sLiPpeRy
flair btw
2022-01-15 15:18
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