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most overrated player
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Latvia doug_water 
imo "young talent" michu who is older than 3x major champion Magisk. delusional poles have been praising him for years but every time he gets an opportunity to prove himself he goes 0.80.
2022-01-15 21:35
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#1
jabbi | 
Brazil falmes
twistzz
2022-01-15 21:36
7 replies
#6
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Chile jotler
flair
2022-01-15 21:37
6 replies
you
2022-01-15 21:39
5 replies
#12
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Chile jotler
me what
2022-01-15 21:41
4 replies
Flair
2022-01-15 21:44
3 replies
#22
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Chile jotler
why?
2022-01-15 21:52
2 replies
#138
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Brazil nasd_
atumalaca
2022-01-16 17:45
1 reply
#139
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Chile jotler
manito ^^
2022-01-16 17:47
broky
2022-01-15 21:37
4 replies
#8
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Latvia doug_water
i dont think hes even that highly rated, this year he was pretty garbage compared to last year when he was dropping 30bombs left and right (when niko was still in fazer)
2022-01-15 21:38
broky has never been overrated, u high?
2022-01-15 22:24
#73
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Sweden any!
+1
2022-01-16 05:18
#105
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New Zealand Iuca5
+1 for a main awp yeah, hes kinda nice in the clutch tho which is a good skill to have
2022-01-16 11:43
s1mple
2022-01-15 21:37
13 replies
i think it's time ur government cuts off your internet connection again my friend
2022-01-15 21:49
12 replies
i arent think that
2022-01-15 21:50
11 replies
im joking brother, i hope the situation in your country improves quickly. one love
2022-01-15 21:54
3 replies
<3
2022-01-15 21:55
#38
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Germany azmq
wtf hltv so nice
2022-01-15 22:49
1 reply
He realized that he might get banned so he pussied out
2022-01-17 06:49
#67
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Niger Feline
"i arent think" OMG, dumb s1mple's hater. gamcheat gloryhunter. most overrated players are gambit squad: haven't won a single serious LAN trophey in 2021
2022-01-16 05:00
6 replies
#75
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Sweden any!
axaxxaxaa mad lulvi fangay
2022-01-16 05:19
newfag detected
2022-01-16 05:44
angry russian 13 yo kid spotted
2022-01-16 11:24
THIS IS hltv!
2022-01-16 11:43
In what way is Gambit overrated?
2022-01-16 17:34
how many teams won LAN trophey in 2021?
2022-01-17 06:46
Only polaks talk about him.
2022-01-15 21:37
#7
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Latvia 4swen4
why overrated, if teams choose him thats for a reason
2022-01-15 21:38
1 reply
yes because they overrate him
2022-01-17 06:47
#9
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Chile jotler
maybe b1t
2022-01-15 21:38
15 replies
I agree. The kid has done amazing, don't get me wrong. Deserves the spot he got in the top-20. But he's also not OVERLY high in many stats other than headshots and surviving, and I think his surviving % as a rifler kind of shows how his stats might be a bit inflated by how much Na'vi dominated Lots of people put him in their top-3 riflers, and I just don't see that level of impact yet
2022-01-15 21:50
14 replies
#23
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Chile jotler
+1
2022-01-15 21:52
+1
2022-01-15 21:59
#41
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Morocco Hways5onat
+1
2022-01-15 22:54
#45
mhL | 
United States KadamJ
+1
2022-01-15 23:07
+1 as soon as navi starts to lose his stats will be the first to drop
2022-01-15 23:22
1 reply
True, but I really hope under Electronic and S1mple he improves to the point where they don't have to be winning for him to put up a good performance
2022-01-15 23:24
#53
FaNg | 
Canada JC_123
+1
2022-01-16 04:04
#54
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Finland notits
+1 its insane how some people say hes got the best rookie year ever just compare his first year: hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?startDa.. to zywoos first year: hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start..
2022-01-16 04:09
5 replies
#61
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Brazil TodoFuro
best after zywoo?
2022-01-16 04:28
2 replies
#62
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Finland notits
probably yes, but still not even near zywoo on an individual level
2022-01-16 04:34
Depends on if you consider S1mple 2016 as his rookie year. He played on Hellraisers before that, so wasn't exactly high T1 competition, then went to Liquid and Na'vi in 2016 where he got to play in big tournaments. Ended the year ranked 4th Nowhere near Zywoo, but I'd say probably more impactful than b1t
2022-01-16 11:45
#145
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Brazil cauby
Me + You + My mom + ZywOo = 0 Majors b1t = 1 Majors. Best rookie ever.
2022-01-17 05:28
1 reply
#156
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Finland notits
thing is, trophies are won by the team, not by the individual
2022-01-17 13:44
#130
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
+1. Amazing talent but definitely not top 3 rifler.
2022-01-16 17:36
#14
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Hungary szia
i do not remember a sh1ro flick
2022-01-15 21:46
3 replies
#58
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Finland notits
2022-01-16 04:22
2 replies
#111
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Sweden morotN
wtf almost draken level
2022-01-16 11:49
1 reply
#128
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Finland notits
draken would hit that without the gap, he would timing wallbang flick upwards
2022-01-16 17:32
#15
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Russia Slavaa
Karrigan, woxic, fallen
2022-01-15 21:48
5 replies
I honestly think Karrigan is kind of underrated right now, as a player. As an IGL he needs to step up quite a bit especially with Ropz coming in. But as a player, I think he's probably one of the best at setting up others for success. A lot of the time it looks stupid and he's dying for no reason, which can be the case sometimes, but I'd say he's won Faze more rounds from gathering info than he's lost from dying first
2022-01-15 21:56
4 replies
+1 not so many people can understand this
2022-01-16 11:05
I wish there were stats to rate such play, do they come under impact rating?
2022-01-16 17:43
2 replies
Unfortunately no, I don't think there's a good way you can track it statistically. So no matter what his stats will always look like shit
2022-01-16 18:05
1 reply
info play has a huge impact in tier 1 cs, these players will always be underrated I guess.
2022-01-16 18:10
aleksiB
2022-01-15 21:51
5 replies
+1
2022-01-15 22:42
#55
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Sweden gNeJS
Dont mention him, soon this thread Will have 600 Finns talking about how he almost won something once.
2022-01-16 04:15
2 replies
#71
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Finland notits
i dont understand why people always say this, i dont think ive ever seen more than 3 finnish users defend aleksib at once everyone knows aleksib hasnt proven himself yet, but he 100% seems like a very smart guy irl so i wouldnt be surprised if he succeeds in G2, but we will have to wait and see
2022-01-16 05:17
1 reply
#85
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Sweden gNeJS
Tbh i havent seen anybody say this. I dont hold anything against Aleksi, seems like a nice Guy. But finnish People have been talking about him more than portuguese People hyped Fox when he was in Faze. Countless threads about him everyday where everybody say the same thing. I dont wish aleksib anything bad, im just tired of everything around him.
2022-01-16 11:00
Most underrated player
2022-01-16 05:56
#24
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Poland iKriliseQ
sh0ro, s0mple, b0t Basically all the noobs that have "1" in nick
2022-01-15 21:54
B1t, Xyp9x, Hunter, Syrson, Valde
2022-01-15 22:02
8 replies
#57
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United States cmohr
aleksib
2022-01-16 04:21
4 replies
I think G2 overrates Aleksib. I don't think average hltv user overrates Aleksib.
2022-01-16 04:44
3 replies
Average hltv user is smarter than G2?
2022-01-16 05:56
2 replies
I mean, the average HLTV user didn’t do a lateral trade for someone that may or may not be an improvement (nexa for Aleksib). Normally when you replace an IGL, you want it to be an obvious upgrade, which in Aleksib’s case, has yet to be seen. But what do I know? I’m just an average HLTV user.
2022-01-16 12:23
1 reply
+1
2022-01-16 13:45
Big +1 for hunter
2022-01-16 11:06
+1 for syrson, but these times are over
2022-01-16 11:16
valde overrated af
2022-01-16 11:25
#32
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France Azimutt
Aleksib KennyS Jame
2022-01-15 22:03
4 replies
#109
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New Zealand Iuca5
Jame?????????
2022-01-16 11:47
3 replies
#118
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France Azimutt
Awp abuser, all the team play for him, bad igl.
2022-01-16 12:48
2 replies
#124
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New Zealand Iuca5
sooooooo........... zywoo is also overrated?
2022-01-16 13:14
1 reply
#126
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France Azimutt
Sure zywoo very bad igl
2022-01-16 14:11
Ch0k0 cross hair placement abuser
2022-01-15 22:02
#34
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Romania reXPixieS
Fallen Fer fnx boltz and VINI
2022-01-15 22:04
3 replies
#40
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Brazil guelzy1
vini bigger than your scene
2022-01-15 22:49
2 replies
#110
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New Zealand Iuca5
Nexus would beat last dance easily
2022-01-16 11:48
Vini is not bigger than french scene rofl
2022-01-16 13:10
nitr0, dude should not be allowed on any team that aspires to be above tier 4
2022-01-15 22:09
3 replies
To be clear, we’re talking about Intel-Grand-Slam-winning nitr0, correct?
2022-01-16 16:24
2 replies
the washed valorant nitro yes
2022-01-17 05:32
#151
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Denmark Zorrondo
the 0.8 rating awp abuser who retired cuz he sucked, yes him
2022-01-17 06:19
#39
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Brazil guelzy1
michu is good
2022-01-15 22:49
I don't see Michu being overrated by the general cs community
2022-01-15 23:04
AcilioN (being igl in many teams, paycheck stealer, full dogshit like a player and igl)
2022-01-15 23:05
Id say aleksib as an igl cuz he didnt do much after the ence run, but g2 this year will tell, imo he might be good in a team that hoghly relise on strats not star players but i think g2 is not it and i also think teams after astralis didnt find succes in strats but rather individual performance and setting up star players for succes. I also think michu is kinda overrated, but only because everyone hopes that he ends up in a team that isnt already crumbling, i think if he will end up in a team that is consistent he will not be the star but people will not overrate him either due to him just doing the job
2022-01-15 23:19
In terms of actual ratings, I think Rain has been overrated. He had a 1.07 LAN rating for 2021, which is pretty good overall! But then you look at each of the individual matches, and literally nearly 50% are red. Another probably 40% are under 1.10. The last 10% are above a 1.80, and it absolutely drags up his rating so much. Literally in his last 25 maps, 3 of them he's gotten above a 2.00 rating. To most other people they would be career defining maps. Hell, fucking NiKo only had ONE map above a 2.00 rating at LAN this year, and Rain pulls of 3 in his last 25 maps?? The guy goes absolutely god mode 10% of the time, and is a relatively below-average player the other 90%. It's absolutely crazy to see, and then his stats overall say he's performing relatively well because of how crazy a handful of maps are All this to say I love Rain, it's just SO FRUSTRATING to see highlights of ridiculously high level play sprinkled into a mix of below average maps
2022-01-15 23:23
7 replies
when rain is in form, hes one of the most satisfying players to watch
2022-01-16 05:35
Interesting analysis, you would expect patchy form from an entry fragger/aggressive rifler so for that reason I’d be inclined to keep him in faze
2022-01-16 11:31
1 reply
Oh absolutely like I said, I honestly love Rain and his playstyle. I just really think he needs to work on his consistency. Even if he can just get his median matches around a 1.10 rating, it'll be a massive improvement for Faze Something else interesting, in the past four or five months Faze have only lost two maps that Rain went positive. Like 90% of the time, if Rain simply gets more kills than deaths they win the match
2022-01-16 11:38
Can you link the matches where rain goes god mode? Ty
2022-01-16 11:58
3 replies
2 replies
Small sample size but damn all of them were faze starting on ct side. And then you add ropz to that 💀
2022-01-16 12:54
1 reply
These are just 2.00+ ratings last year on LAN It seems like a small amount, but it's actually the same amount as S1mple and Zywoo, three times as much as NiKo Even compare on his team, Broky has none and Twistzz just barely has one map at exactly 2.00 rating Like, getting a 2.00 rating in a tier one match is career defining for a lot of players. I'd say it's something the majority of players will never achieve, especially on LAN Another interesting statistic is that across last year, every single time Rain went positive, Faze won. If Rain manages to get more kills than deaths, Faze would almost 100% win the map. Imagine if they got him to be a consistent 1.10 rating player again, not superstar level, just consistent. They'd never lose
2022-01-16 13:05
#52
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Germany mrzxea_cs
Monesy
2022-01-16 04:00
in terms of how overrated: b1t m0nesy ropz twistzz aleksib REZ Karrigan broky Pretty much taught me to ignore everybody with a navi or faze flair talking about the ability of players
2022-01-16 04:19
5 replies
#59
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United States cmohr
ropz is not overrated lmao
2022-01-16 04:23
4 replies
Yeah he kinda is, dudes act like he's a top 5 rifler insane god that'll elevate faze to tourney wins
2022-01-16 04:50
3 replies
EG fan talking about overrating hahahahahahah
2022-01-16 11:09
2 replies
flair + flag + name
2022-01-16 12:03
1 reply
OK
2022-01-16 12:14
m0nesy, this dude will underperforme in tier 1 for sure because of lack of experience, 1.07 rating is expected.
2022-01-16 04:27
3 replies
1.07 rating is great for most players, literally top20 level rating this year. For a rookie 1.07 would be totally extraordinary. But many people do expect even better from him which is of course quite ludicrous to expect that much.
2022-01-16 04:52
overhyped, not overrated yet
2022-01-16 05:18
1 reply
#112
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Sweden morotN
+1
2022-01-16 11:51
#68
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Niger Feline
olofmeister. was beasting only in old days in low competitive era. dunno why nowdays people think that he's good...
2022-01-16 05:08
1 reply
#70
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Finland notits
no one thinks hes good, everyone thinks hes a legend (and not a bad player still either)
2022-01-16 05:15
#69
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Finland notits
m0nesy = guy hasnt proven himself in t1 at all and people expect him to be insane (could still happen) fallen = he is dogshit with awp, its just a fact syrson = he fell off
2022-01-16 05:14
3 replies
fallen is far away from his prime so we cant expect him to steal the show nd kick asses, but still he does his work and supports other player like no other, he has a highest flashing stats. maybe he isnt fit for tier-1 but he can do well in tier-2
2022-01-17 05:35
2 replies
#157
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Finland notits
yes, i believe he can play in tier 1 too, but this would require him giving up the awp
2022-01-17 13:44
1 reply
yes, in a more supportive role, much like sanji
2022-01-17 13:59
Device
2022-01-16 05:18
rez, dont know why anyone thinks he's a god barely made it to 0.7 kpr career average
2022-01-16 05:28
not me
2022-01-16 05:43
#80
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Korea Axiotimos
sh1ro most overrated for sure, low impact + mediocre skill with inflated rating
2022-01-16 05:45
m0nesy sh0ro ropz REZ broky AleksiB
2022-01-16 05:49
2 replies
#86
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Sweden any!
hohol kkkkkk
2022-01-16 11:01
1 reply
#90
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France sugasean
osuzday
2022-01-16 11:08
aleksib
2022-01-16 05:57
#89
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France sugasean
m0nesy
2022-01-16 11:08
1 reply
we will see, im very curious
2022-01-16 11:17
#92
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Vietnam andy_
Djokovic
2022-01-16 11:12
3 replies
#132
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United States cybonics
lmao
2022-01-16 17:38
2 replies
#134
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Vietnam andy_
they call him the best player and he won't even be playing in grand slam LMFAO
2022-01-16 17:40
1 reply
#137
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United States cybonics
he did all that pussy footing around the vaccine to eventually get barred by the Australian gov't
2022-01-16 17:44
for me its ropz and frozen
2022-01-16 11:17
m0nesko
2022-01-16 11:23
#99
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CIS sp33dywx
sh1ro
2022-01-16 11:27
Dev1ce
2022-01-16 11:34
#102
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Italy 21Mercer
Es3tag
2022-01-16 11:38
1 reply
nobody overrates es3tag except orgs
2022-01-17 05:42
NAF. Bodyshoot and do nothing all round.
2022-01-16 11:40
2 replies
#133
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United States cybonics
flag??
2022-01-16 17:39
whats the problem of bodyshooting
2022-01-16 17:43
rez
2022-01-16 11:44
snappi
2022-01-16 12:49
#131
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
The Destroyer of Teams - Es3tag.
2022-01-16 17:37
1 reply
#146
RUSH | 
Germany rs6a
+1 2nd biggest paycheck stealer in CS right now
2022-01-17 05:30
b1t and sh1ro and ax1le
2022-01-17 05:23
JkS
2022-01-17 05:32
#152
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Ukraine Bakagan
allu, karrigan, Xyp9x, shox, Oscar, monesy
2022-01-17 06:38
blameF
2022-01-17 13:53
ecolai
2022-01-17 13:58
#161
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Estonia RopzOnTop
m0nesy, sure he might be good but not as good as people think. he isnt the next s1mple.
2022-01-17 14:00
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