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If 7th is hobbit
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Nigeria Antounde_Aboagye 
i would leave this website for a couple of hours if i was you, its going to be extremely ugly i can tell you that. hobbit has the be 5th
2022-01-16 18:14
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it is Ax1le - hobbit elec wil shae 5th or 6
2022-01-16 18:15
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#48
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Netherlands PawnyCS
hobbit and ax1le are basically the same, so either hobbit & ax1le on 7th and 6th or on 6th and 5th, noway they are on 5th and 7th
2022-01-16 18:54
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It will be 100% hobbit. I can confirm
2022-01-16 19:17
no
2022-01-16 18:15
i cant wait for hobbit not even in top20 !
2022-01-16 18:15
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#41
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Pakistan hawrU
ok then name all the top 7
2022-01-16 18:43
8 replies
zywoo shiro simple rest dont matter
2022-01-16 19:04
7 replies
XD but seriously zywoo niko simple shiro electronic ax1le cadian
2022-01-16 19:09
6 replies
true i forgot niko wtf
2022-01-16 19:09
1 reply
NiKo top3 pls hltv
2022-01-17 20:00
2022-01-16 19:16
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2 replies
But cadian is #1 ranked at screaming, so no chance for hobbit
2022-01-16 19:19
1 reply
Can't disagree
2022-01-16 19:20
Even you know he is 7th because you are only leaving for couple of hours. ps: he should be higher though
2022-01-16 18:16
7 replies
???? content
2022-01-16 18:16
5 replies
You lack confidence in him being higher than 7th
2022-01-16 18:17
4 replies
no lol, im just warning hltv
2022-01-16 18:20
3 replies
warning? lmao okay
2022-01-16 18:52
2 replies
i have 14 accounts in my disposal
2022-01-16 19:27
1 reply
truly scary stuff
2022-01-16 19:32
+1
2022-01-16 18:17
pretty sure it's Ax1le
2022-01-16 18:17
#10
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Slovakia Daev0n
7th electronic, 6th Ax1le, 5th Hobbit, 4th sh1ro, 3rd NiKo, 2nd Zywoo, 1st frozen
2022-01-16 18:20
11 replies
sh1ro higher
2022-01-16 18:19
9 replies
#17
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Slovakia Daev0n
edited after checking the stats
2022-01-16 18:20
8 replies
sh1ro will be 3rd, no chance niko will be 3rd while winning absolutely nothing all year long.
2022-01-16 18:21
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#21
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Slovakia Daev0n
NiKo's ADR is much higher than sh1ro's
2022-01-16 18:21
6 replies
sh1ro better rating in 2021 sh1ro 3 MVPS to nikos 0 sh1ro 6 events won to nikos 0 its not even close btw
2022-01-16 18:23
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#31
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Russia P0vTr
sh0r0 only 1 relevant mvp (V4 and cis rmr are irrelevant), YEKINDAR over Jame is counting as 0 MVP > 1 MVP no one cares about the wins in terms of another stats (YEKINDAR over b1t), NiKo has a lot of stats higher than sh0r0 so it's still debatable
2022-01-16 18:36
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stopped reading at "sh0r0" imagine calling someone sh0r0 who just had his first year in tier1 and already winning big events + mvps lol silly hater, next
2022-01-16 18:38
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#40
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Russia P0vTr
the only hate thing I've got in my answer is "sh0r0", there's no bait or delusional stuff or even a fkn opinion unlikely with your "its not even close btw" in #23
2022-01-16 18:42
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#50
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Slovakia Daev0n
Yeah it's really close. It all depends on which stats hltv will consider as the most important.
2022-01-16 19:03
#43
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Pakistan hawrU
lmao Since when High ADR > More MVPs
2022-01-16 18:44
when they put elec at 7th even he has like 4th highest lan/big events rating lol, chill out when shiro>niko, its gonna happen.
2022-01-16 20:23
Leave if you want, I'll stay.
2022-01-16 18:18
#7 it's electronic or ax1le
2022-01-16 18:18
#13
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Korea Rel^
7-Elec 6-Hobbit 5-Ax1le 4-NiKo 3-zywoo 2-sh1ro 1-s1mple
2022-01-16 18:18
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#26
ZywOo | 
Brazil reyaM
zycarrywoo 2nd......but sh1ro deserved this place, lets see...
2022-01-16 18:28
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#44
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Korea Rel^
it's so close between the two, i think that will be Sh1ro thanks to the Kato Mvp, i don't mind if Zywoo gets the 2nd either
2022-01-16 18:47
swap niko and hobbit and we are good
2022-01-16 20:30
Its almost impossible for 7 to be Hobbit imo, he was slightly better than Ax1Le in many metrics this year with the same MVPs (2) against electronic's 0. Hobbit will be 5th for sure, and even if Ax1le is above Hobbit, there's no way electronic is. Hobbit and Ax1Le are pretty far ahead of electronic in most stats.
2022-01-16 18:23
Haha I'll be here my friend
2022-01-16 18:22
#25
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Sweden EntonXD
s1mple niko zywoo sh1ro electronic hobbit ax1le
2022-01-16 18:24
2 replies
#32
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Finland Kashmiir
ChoKo 2? Based :D
2022-01-16 18:36
1 reply
#97
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Sweden EntonXD
best player in the world at the very end of the year imo. and insane performance on lan.
2022-01-16 20:27
#29
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Switzerland nierg
Ax1le 7th, H0bbit 6th and elec is probably 5th imo. I think HLTV is going to say LAN Major+LAN BLAST World Finals > other achievements. One thing that speaks for HObbit is his MVP medal though.
2022-01-16 18:34
#33
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Finland wormi
elec/ax1le/hobbiyt is tight battle
2022-01-16 18:37
why you care so much if another man is #5 or #7 kinda gay if you ask me
2022-01-16 18:38
#36
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Kazakhstan oscar9992
I think Hobbit is either 7'th or 6'th. Depends on how HLTV weighs LANs & Big events, where Electronic was clearly superior to Gambit duo.
2022-01-16 18:38
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he clearly wasnt, this was one of elecs worst years individually, it just so happens to be his best as a team.
2022-01-16 18:39
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#39
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Kazakhstan oscar9992
Yes. 2018 Electronic was far better than 2021 version of Electronic.
2022-01-16 18:41
#42
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Czech Republic Sybas
7. hobbit 6. ax1le 5. electronic 4. niko 3. sh1ro 2. zywoo 1. sasha
2022-01-16 18:44
Hobbit 7th, Electronic 6th, Ax1le 5th is my call. But I'm also stupid, so who knows
2022-01-16 18:48
1. Sasha 2. Mathiueasduiuasdzuausduzsaidas 3. Kolya 4. dima
2022-01-16 18:48
1 - s1mple 2 - NiKo 3 - ZywOo 4 - sh1ro 5 - electronic (4 and 5 could be swapped at a stretch) 6 - hobbit 7 - ax1le I rank them like this because the top 3 are obvious (though there is debate between zywoo and niko but thats not the point) I think sh1ro was very consistently good all year and was always performing usually around 1.1-1.2 throughout the year even when his team didnt do great, but I have electronic higher than hobbit and ax1le even though the start of the year was pretty shaky for him, at big events he was putting up actual superstar numbers. hobbit and zx1le (though hobbit was less affected) both didnt do great on LAN and people may hate to hear it but LAN's are just objectively the most important metric this year. All the biggest tournaments were on LAN except 1 or 2 and LAN's are a more difficult environment anyway. The reason hobbit and ax1le don't make top 5 this year for me is that when they were playing those big tournaments their ratings completely plummeted from the 1.17 or so they would usually be getting, which electronic was getting consistently since may at the latest.
2022-01-16 18:57
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typical biased navi fan: -electronic above ax1le and hobbit -thinks elelctronic comes close to sh1ro -puts zywoo at third because he is mad he got two top1s in a row :DDD Dont get me wrong niko is my fav player of the remaining but he was only better than zywoo (and simple) towards the end
2022-01-16 19:44
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Put zywoo at third bc i rushed the top 3 to get to the main point of the thread, u clearly came in as french fan mentality with ur zywoo inferiority complex and started talking about it for no reason And i said that electronic could swap with sh1ro at a stretch, which is what some people are doing by cherrypicking stats Electronic outclasses ax1le and hobbit on lan but they are both obviously better online, I rate LAN higher than some people bc stages make or break people and if you cant handle it (like how ax1le had obvious struggles) then you cant ever win the biggest tournaments.
2022-01-17 18:31
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im not a zywoo fan, its just that your whole list is fucking wrong ukcs
2022-01-17 19:01
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i didnt say zywoo fan i said french fan but ok
2022-01-20 13:12
bruh what?? ofc its hobbit or ax1le its obvious
2022-01-16 19:11
will be Hobbit 99% electronic top 5 99% Ax1Le better stats against better teams
2022-01-16 19:12
#56
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Switzerland Tyrsk
1- s1mple 2- ZywOo 3- sh1ro 4- NiKo 5- Hobbit 6- Ax1Le 7- electronic
2022-01-16 19:15
it is obviously ax1le or Hobbit. the chances of either of them getting 5th are close to none If b1t can get top9 with basically only Big event stats and achievement, since his overall year stats are barely top20 if even top20 at all, electronic will EASILY pass by ax1le and Hobbit who are nowhere near elec when looking at Big event stats and achievement, since his overall stats are actually amazing compared to b1t. stats vs top20 Hobbit 1.16 ax1le 1.16 electronic 1.13 stats vs top20 on Big events electronic 1.22 ax1le 1.14 Hobbit 1.10 since Big events counts 3 to 4 times as much as overall stats, big chance Hobbit gets 7th.
2022-01-16 19:23
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so much time passed and still people dont see the "big events" filter it's fucked and does consider big events only from July HAHHAH
2022-01-16 19:33
#71
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Also factor EVP's/MVP's. Ax1Le and Hobbit have two a piece, Electronic only has EVP's.
2022-01-16 19:38
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great point jonty
2022-01-16 19:38
sure but device and Jame also had an MVP, b1t also did not have an MVP. The fact of the matter is if you look at not only this but also previous rankings, Big event (which means LAN) and Big game stats are BY FAR the most important to HLTV when making their ranking, and electronic outdoes both so much. Sure the 2 MVP's count for a lot, but without those MVP's they would not even come close to coming close to electronic, with them they are close to him, but I don't see how they get passed him.
2022-01-16 19:41
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#78
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I understand that but HLTV isn't ranking the players on big events alone and apart from big events, Hobbit and Ax1Le beat Electronic in other statistics plus very valuable MVP awards. I'm not saying Electronic won't be 5th, I'm just saying it's also possible he will be 7th. EDIT: Typographical error.
2022-01-16 19:45
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Oh my statement is just a very confident prediction, of course there is a possibility that elec get's 7th, but I just don't see it happening. Guess we'll find out soon enough
2022-01-16 19:49
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#87
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yeah, absolutely. ^^
2022-01-16 19:55
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And once again the hltv ranking becomes harder to comprehend for me lmao, oh well, not that far off at least
2022-01-16 20:01
2 replies
told you mate, one stat isn't representetive for everything
2022-01-16 20:02
#94
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I had Electronic picked at 7th for the longest time but that's the beauty of predictions. ^^ The more contested the spot, the better the outcome. :D
2022-01-16 20:08
#63
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United States 1point25
7 is elec 6 is axile 5 is hobbit 4 is niko 3 is zywoo 2 is shiro 1 is simple screen
2022-01-16 19:25
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nope. 7 ax1le/Hobbit 6 ax1le/Hobbit 5 electronic 4 NiKo/sh1ro 3 NiKo/sh1ro 2 ZywOo 1 s1mple
2022-01-16 19:38
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nah electronic doesnt deserve 5th and sh1ro is 1000% 3rd lol, niko hasnt won anything all year long.
2022-01-16 19:43
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Yeah I think 90% chance of sh1ro 3rd as well. but 0% chance of 2nd, and NiKo big event stats are so much better than sh1ro that I do see a 10% chance he beats him, even if sh1ro beats him in every other catagory. also electronic 5th is 80% sure for me, his Big event and Big game rating are not even close to Hobbit or ax1le, electronic has sooo much better rating in most important stats. The only thing that can help ax1le or Hobbit to outdo him is MVP's but all of those were online and we all have seen the rest of the ranking, b1t is top9 while not even being top20 online. It's obvious that Big LAN counts 10x more than online cs in the ranking, like it or not
2022-01-16 19:47
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we cant just isolate one stat and base everything off of that, and forget about all the other stats and accolades. that just does't soubd right.
2022-01-16 19:48
1 reply
edit lol
2022-01-16 19:48
2 and 3 switch then correct
2022-01-16 19:49
ez for electronic
2022-01-16 19:27
#68
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Ukraine zergggg
hobbit has better stats next has to be ax1le
2022-01-16 19:34
Nt Anthony Savage
2022-01-16 19:34
1 reply
+1
2022-01-16 19:42
#70
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Really no need for this course of action. All three players are deserving of those placings and no matter whom it may be, it's a fantastic placing for them.
2022-01-16 19:36
#81
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Russia RogueDecay
if #7 is elec I'm logging out from HLTV, bookmark this.
2022-01-16 19:48
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#88
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
What for, though? I always see these unnecessary ultimatums being presented because a certain player isn't a certain rank but the other players are just as deserving of it.
2022-01-16 19:57
2 replies
we're just having fun jonty, nobody is actually seriously threating anyone, no need to take everything so literally.
2022-01-16 19:58
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#92
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I guess so but it's hard to tell sometimes. xD My apologies. ^^
2022-01-16 20:03
#83
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Denmark thekr4k3n
Hobbit shouldn't even be top 20, wtf you are talking about
2022-01-16 19:48
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#95
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United States 1point25
hobbit did more than enough to be in this list this year
2022-01-16 20:20
nerd spotted
2022-01-16 19:49
Some of you guys are alright, don't come on HLTV tonight
2022-01-16 20:04
nope he wont be 5th
2022-01-17 20:01
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