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"elec robbed"
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United States Heatjkweird 
yall be saying "elec won more but less mvps cause of s1mple" "elec deserved higher rank" obv its easier to "win more" when you have the best player in the world on your team. and pretty much all top players would have more mvps if not for s1mple.
2022-01-16 22:29
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im just mad because im a fanboy
2022-01-16 22:31
11 replies
I like your honest style
2022-01-16 23:15
8 replies
its like when you want your son to get first place in his football tournament even though you know he isnt good enough
2022-01-16 23:16
7 replies
but elec is really fucking good.
2022-01-16 23:26
6 replies
yeah but half of the season was played indoors because of the rain and hes alot better when playing outside
2022-01-16 23:28
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#48
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Russia SoloN7
Your metaphors are beautiful, well said
2022-01-16 23:34
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#51
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United States lacedsocks
fr i like this guy, honest and smart
2022-01-16 23:44
It's an analogy, not a metaphor
2022-01-17 06:17
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#75
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Russia SoloN7
Metaphor is a hidden comparison, as far as I remember from school, but you may be right
2022-01-17 17:40
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Yeah, I'd say it's a metaphor since a comparison without any comparative word (e.g : like, more than, less than). Analogy would work as well I guess since covid is associated to rain even though both are completly different. Let's not argue on the name mens)) <3 <3
2022-01-17 18:07
But elec is genuinely better than hobbit or ax1le tho. Like stats dont really show everything.
2022-01-17 03:02
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yeah well, then go put a list that isn't stats based.
2022-01-17 18:48
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Germany teure
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-01-16 22:32
1 reply
i mean when b1t is there his stats go down. so probs that
2022-01-17 01:24
#3
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
"elec won more but less mvps cause of s1mple" yes this is true but no he wasnt robbed, he is exactly where he deserves to be
2022-01-16 22:32
12 replies
agreed
2022-01-16 22:33
#7
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United States Heatjkweird
exactly +1 also my point was you can apply that to all top players. niko would have more mvps if not for s1mple. zywoo would have a shit ton more. its just pointless to be mad about
2022-01-16 22:40
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#21
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
im not mad about it, just s1 is too good for any of his teammates to get mvps
2022-01-16 22:42
#11
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Bahrain Ax1yn
The best part about him is he is so consistent throughout the years, I love papatronic 🥰
2022-01-16 22:35
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#12
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
+1
2022-01-16 22:35
he belong to the street
2022-01-16 22:38
no it's not true or you have to explain it to me... Without simple, electronic this year = 0 MVP
2022-01-16 22:49
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#29
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
with s1mple he is still 0 mvps, because sahsa just outperforms his teammates so much that he is the only one who deserves mvps
2022-01-16 22:50
3 replies
Ok but without simple navi would have barely won any trophy this year so no mvp for elec neither
2022-01-16 23:43
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#64
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Re read what I said in #29, I have pretty much stated that it’s impossible for elec to get mvp
2022-01-17 06:14
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I understand, but it's absolutly not correlated to simple, and thats what I think ;) but anyway I agree with you overall
2022-01-17 11:30
+1 he is where he is supposed to be
2022-01-16 23:32
FaNg 1 mvp frozen 1 mvp electronic 0 mvp
2022-01-16 22:32
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#5
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Zamn, I aren't know this information, Thank you!
2022-01-16 22:33
#9
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United States Heatjkweird
I dont know why ur disrespecting FaNg and frozen they are beasts
2022-01-16 22:34
2 replies
they deserve top6
2022-01-16 22:35
1 reply
brilliant
2022-01-16 22:42
FanG 1 mvp NIko 0 mvp FanG top 4 confirmed
2022-01-16 22:35
2 replies
checkmate
2022-01-16 22:37
#54
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United States cybonics
Agreed
2022-01-17 01:07
if mfs still think navi is a one-man army, you have no idea how t1 cs works mate, this ain't 2018, s1mple is getting enough help from all of his teammates to win these tournaments.
2022-01-16 22:37
5 replies
to be fair navi was a one-man army for a long time.
2022-01-16 22:36
it's 3 man army vs the world
2022-01-16 22:41
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#25
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Bolivia Natusch
sometimes, maybe, but they became more of a cohesive unit the last couple of tournaments that they played imo
2022-01-16 22:46
1 reply
true, well structured team finally
2022-01-16 22:51
in 2018 navi was a 2man army , don`t forget that year electronic got 4th best player in the world , higher than dupreeh who had a stellar year
2022-01-17 01:15
#10
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Europe LorddSF95
Fair enough. Even if gambit are onliners they dominated the scene in 2021 for quite a long time. Not talking about titles but they were the most consistent team alongside na'vi
2022-01-16 22:35
I'm not even mad about people malding over electronic, because honestly him Ax1le and Hobbit are completely interchangeable. Comes down to semantics between them However if I see one more god damn comment malding about B1t getting #9 I'm going to lose it. He's pretty lucky he got as high as he did
2022-01-16 22:37
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if b1t continues his form he will be much much higher than ax1le & hobbit next year, but this year it's kinda fair i guess
2022-01-16 22:42
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My only issue is that nobody has actually looked at his stats apparently?? It's like people look at his rating, and that's it Fun fact for you, he had the sixth highest LAN rating. That's awesome! So how about his other stats ADR? Not even in the top-20 for 2021 KPR? Not even in the top-20 for 2021 Impact? Not even in the top-20 for 2021 Assists? Not even in the top-20 for 2021 In fact, there were only two stats that contribute to rating that B1t performed well in; DPR and KAST. He didn't die. Of course, he wasn't BAD in the fragging department, but not even being in the top-20 in any of those stats??? How could anyone say he's a top-10 rifler at that point. He is quite literally the Jame/Sh1ro of the riflers
2022-01-16 23:01
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lol im surprised, he should definitely be super impactful, well that's weird ofc if you count in the whole year that makes sense, cuz he was pretty bad at the beginning, but in late 2021 he was nuts
2022-01-16 22:54
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On LAN when he was going nuts, we'll take a look at his stats (minimum 30 maps played, top-30 teams) Multikills? #12 in the world ADR? #20 in the world KPR? #16 in the world Impact? #17 in the world Entries? Must have good stats right? He has the second lowest attempts at entries on Na'vi, in fact, he has the 18th lowest entry attempts in the world on LAN, that's like the bottom 25% of players However, there are three major stats he shines in. Entry success, headshot stats, and DPR again. Entry success is very important, he NEVER attempts to get entry kills, but when he does he generally gets them. Headshots honestly don't matter to me. And DPR is the same thing, he is literally the Jame of rifling Idk, not even making it in the top-15 ON LAN for ADR, KPR or impact? Hardly a top-10 rifler in my mind
2022-01-16 23:14
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nice detailed stats, thx for the "enlightening" hahaha i guess he's not set up for the entry fragging, electronic is, but he definitely gets a lot of important kills during the rounds, for example if na'vi is down 3 vs 5 and b1t gets two insane kills and turns the game around (elec & s1mple do it all the time too)
2022-01-16 23:19
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Absolutely, I think he's a world class talent, I think Na'vi (specifically Blad3) can mould him into a superstar rifler like electronic, however I can't believe how many people push this idea that he's one of the best riflers in the world right now because they see his rating and that's it
2022-01-16 23:22
3 replies
yeah hltv rating is kinda overrated if you think about it (even all the stats)
2022-01-16 23:25
2 replies
+1 it fails to also take into consideration the impact of other playstyles that are SUPER crucial to top teams, like Perfecto or Interz on support
2022-01-16 23:27
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i agree, interz did such a great job most of the times and people call him bot, very sad
2022-01-17 20:52
what is DPR?
2022-01-17 06:27
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Deaths per round, basically how often a player survives. It's the stat that people criticize Jame and Sh1ro for, because surviving is the one stat that has the biggest impact on your rating This is also why someone like NiKo or Yekindar arguably has some of the best stats in the world, but their rating is massively impacted because they die much more often Personally, I think it's crazy that someone considered a star-rifler has a top-5 DPR stat, but isn't in the top-20 of any other stat category other than rating
2022-01-17 14:42
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Isnt surviving already counted in KAST ?? why is there another redundant stats for this DPR ??
2022-01-17 14:45
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Exactly!!!! That's why I criticize Rating takes into account ADR, KPR, impact, DPR and KAST If you notice, surviving a round increases both your DPR AND your KAST, so surviving has the biggest impact out of any stat on rating This is why Jame, Sh1ro, and now B1t can have some of the highest ratings in the world, but not even make it in the top-20 when it comes to any of the other stats (ADR, impact, KPR) They're amazing player, they play their roles perfectly, but I personally think we're awarding being passive too heavily. There's no way someone like NiKo should have a worse overall rating than Sh1ro, just because he dies more often
2022-01-17 14:53
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thats why i want niko to be placed higher than sh1ro and jame out of top 20 cuz he isn't even top 10 awper imo
2022-01-17 20:55
fucks MVPs? It's about rating
2022-01-16 22:41
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United States cmohr
1.28 rating at major> 1 online MVP from ax1le
2022-01-16 22:45
4 replies
glad to know they both played a total of two tourny's this year!
2022-01-16 22:46
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but bro mvp is all that matters hltv.org/player/16555/ax1le#tab-trophies.. 2 mvp checkmate!!!!
2022-01-17 00:41
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#56
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United States cmohr
hope ur being sarcastic
2022-01-17 01:12
I am not even a Navi fan personally but I think Electronic should be higher personally. Electronic is irreplaceable on Navi and the team wouldnt have been as dominant without him. I dont think they would have been number 1 without him.
2022-01-16 22:51
2 replies
We will just have to see who they put above him
2022-01-16 22:51
1 reply
Ax1le next, then Hobbit and Sh1ro/Niko/Zywoo in any order
2022-01-16 22:53
#41
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United States Jeebur
im pretty sure he had a pretty rough beginning to 2021 too right?
2022-01-16 23:24
For me it definitely was 1. s1mple 2.Niko 3.Zywoo 4.Sh1ro 5.electronic 6.Bit
2022-01-16 23:32
2 replies
youre only looking at lan results
2022-01-17 01:09
1 reply
Fuck online pro play gambit was farming back then playing "perfect" cs with defaults and adjustments for every event which just isnt possible on lan
2022-01-17 15:51
#49
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Canada JonZherka
Yeah it sucks half the year was online otherwise he'd be higher
2022-01-16 23:38
#52
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
And the thing is, he wouldn't have won almost any MVP if not for S1mple. He wasn't any good in the first half of the year, and in the second B1t would have gotten the MVPs instead of him
2022-01-16 23:55
elec deserves higher but the other people above him make perfect sense too
2022-01-17 01:21
He deserved his 7th spot and not sure about the rest but damn he doesn't care about his appearance. He now looks as 'good' as Dosia, well done mate
2022-01-17 01:28
0/8 im not gonna listen to some murican retard's opinion so nt
2022-01-17 03:01
#63
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Sweden Swediz
Tbh this is a fair ranking, so many people forget the online era with gambit dominating…..
2022-01-17 03:03
#67
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Australia Sh1nenkai
you realise this is 2021 not last 4.5 months of 2021 also he only has one stat in top 5 and t he rest is 10-20th best also his first 6-7 months of 2021 he was doing decent at best with around 1.09-1.11 rating players like ax1le and hobbit had a 1.17-1.21 rating in first 5-7 months of the year and their lan stats are 1.12-1.15 which is like electronic's rating this year not to mention hobit and ax1le both have 2 mvps ax1le has 2 tier 1 and hobbit has a tier 1 and a 1.5 tier one cis only
2022-01-17 06:28
Gambit has 3 players in top-7, it's not an excuse that "NaVi better team, so they won more". Also electronic by pure skill is obviously better than Hobbit and Ax1le, he just wasn't so good online and had s1mple to be praised with all NaVi's mvps.
2022-01-17 11:32
electronic is a top 2 rifler. try and name a better rifler and him that's not niko. pro tip: you can't.
2022-01-17 14:44
2 replies
+1
2022-01-17 18:33
literally +1
2022-01-17 18:48
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