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should i rather go for i5-12600k or i7-11700?
2022-01-17 09:33
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#1
Pol0 | 
Czech Republic olpp
probably the i7 cuz u dont need ddr5 but the overclockable one
2022-01-17 09:34
get amd, intel is complete garbage for 3 years now at least. i have the ryzen 5600x and its very good
2022-01-17 10:39
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#3
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Switzerland fNtm
intel > amd sry
2022-01-17 10:40
3 replies
oh shit u right, lmfao amd wtf
2022-01-17 11:15
Who wud have thought that a 1 year old cpu gets beaten... what you think will happen when amds am5 cpu comes out? hell their 3d version of their old 5000 series might even match the performance of the 12th gen intel cpu or even surpass it in gaming.
2022-01-17 12:24
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#73
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Switzerland fNtm
i dont care witch cpu is better to be honest
2022-01-17 19:44
not anymore
2022-01-17 10:45
8 replies
yeah agree I was wrong, just checked. intel is better in every aspect except power/heat regulation and security.
2022-01-17 11:17
7 replies
hltv user admitting he was wrong wtf
2022-01-17 11:26
5 replies
Yeah, Intel fell off and AMD popped off in 2020 and that's when I built my pc and did research. techspot.com/review/2337-intel-vs-amd-ga.. I didn't expect Intel to bounce back so insanely hard in 1 year lol
2022-01-17 11:29
4 replies
yeah same
2022-01-17 11:29
but 2022 will be different, amd catched up and they will sure beat the new gen of intel again .. in future amd > intel nowadays is 50 50, last year was amds year
2022-01-17 12:34
2 replies
I hope, but I think Intel just got cocky with their faux-monopoly and are now back to dominating. They have better engineers.
2022-01-17 14:01
Nah AMD new cpus will be total flop and intel will be the only go to company for cpus
2022-01-17 14:33
yeah bro,what were you thinking,better 200w cpu more power then 60w amd
2022-01-17 12:19
lol no, amd = oven
2022-01-17 11:11
19 replies
no, amd has better heat distribution and cooling, but i was wrong. intel is stronger, but just with significantly more flaws.
2022-01-17 11:16
18 replies
amd = oven intel > amd /closed edit: whoever still buying amd r delusional fugs
2022-01-17 11:22
17 replies
#16
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Europe JohnnyPayn
agreed on the oven part however for winter its nice lol
2022-01-17 11:22
8 replies
Objectively wrong. Professionally tested as having less heat generation with the same performance in regards to intel cpu's. tomshardware.com/features/amd-vs-intel-c..
2022-01-17 11:23
7 replies
+1
2022-01-17 11:27
#24
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Europe JohnnyPayn
well had intel all my adult life and they never had over 60-65 degrees and my amd goes to 80+ up to 90 regularly so i couldn't give less of a fuck about what some magazine features when i have my own real life experience to back up my claim
2022-01-17 11:29
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That's how dumb people think (you're not dumb, just this thought process, respectfully). You're basically saying: My personal experience with various unaccounted-for external factors is more credible than regulated testing by experts with strict conditions for accuracy through consistency. It's like me saying cigs cause cancer, and you say you smoked cigs all your life and never got cancer.
2022-01-17 11:34
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#42
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Europe JohnnyPayn
my take is i don't give two fucks about any 3rd person tests when i have my own which have dramatically different results from the others might have gotten a bad chip with the ryzen but when i actually googled it there were pages and pages full with people having the same issues never had this with intel despite overclocking hell i had better temps with overclocked intel than i have with my undervolted ryzen now i still like the ryzen as it is super fast the fan noise is annoying tho
2022-01-17 11:50
Guess you dont know how ryzen work after all these years.... PBO overclocks itself till it either reach max PPT or 90c. I imagine you got 5800x? since its easy for that to get high temp bcus of the small surface area it has compared to 5600x, 5900x and 5950x who has their cores split up = more surface area to get rid of heat. Nobody cares about temperature these days on cpus other than intel plebs who are still stuck in the past. Simple solution for ryzen is to lock PPT to 125 or less, shud save you 10-20c, with maybe 1% performance lost. But 12th gen intel cpus are ovens.... they literally have to throw almost double the watt to beat ryzen by up to 25%.
2022-01-17 12:35
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#60
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Europe JohnnyPayn
... Nobody cares about temperature these days on cpus other than intel plebs who are still stuck in the past... "almost double the watt to beat ryzen up to 25%" absolute bullshit they take around 40% more tdp but up to 25% is also insane performance gap and no temps DO matter as fan noise is annoying as fuck and longevity can be an issue i own both ryzen and intel and by calling others "fanboys or plebs" you just make yourself sound like a biased keyboard warrior degen and yes i do own the 5800x as i thought 8phys cores is the perfect balance between longevity for gaming and not overkill like the 5900 or the 5950 even and i didn't care to google potential flaws i also have a friend who tells me his 5800x never exceeds 65 degrees and we got the same cooling i rather upgrade more often than spend so much on high end stuff
2022-01-17 13:52
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Just make ur fan not go higher than you like it to go? if you put ur fan to 100% the cpu will just boost higher till it hits 90c again, if you lower it it will hit 90c much sooner, unless it hits ppt first. 90c is not a problem and longevity is pointless since they can run 90c 24/7 for 5 years+... 90c is only a problem because you make it into one, its almost like you think companies cant make products work with 90c... His 5800x can be a pretty lame one that cant overclock much which will keep it at the ppt it was designed for, where most 5800x can easily go 20-25watt higher.
2022-01-17 14:57
tomshardware.com/features/amd-vs-intel-c.. Winner: AMD. In judging AMD vs Intel CPU performance per watt, it's impossible to overstate the importance of having the densest process node paired with an efficient microarchitecture, and TSMC's 7nm and AMD's Zen 3 are the winning combinations. The latest Ryzen processors consume less power on a performance-vs-power basis, which equates to less heat generation. That eases cooling requirements.
2022-01-17 11:23
7 replies
winner - intel 7 point loser - amd 5 point lmao
2022-01-17 11:35
6 replies
trolling or low iq
2022-01-17 11:36
5 replies
trolling low iq still can bait you supa hard and make u angri :) 7-5 7-5 7-5 7-5 7-5 loser amd
2022-01-17 11:44
4 replies
do you want me to be angry? i dont fall for it sry mens
2022-01-17 11:40
3 replies
tomshardware.com/features/amd-vs-intel-c.. thx for link btw it says intel is better than trash amd 7-5 7-5 7-5 :)
2022-01-17 11:44
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Yes, I was the one who linked it and agreed Intel is better overall. I disagreed that it was oven, it's objectively better at cooling and heat distribution at the same performance with better power consumption.
2022-01-17 11:44
1 reply
nah amd cpu and gpus r oven I used to fry eggs on it :)
2022-01-17 11:46
That i5 is pretty equal to 5600x
2022-01-17 11:37
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no, i retract my statement. AMD was better when the ryzen launches in 2017, but intel popped off hard in 2021 and is now way better
2022-01-17 11:41
5 replies
True Intel really stepped it up last year
2022-01-17 12:08
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Not rly... if their response is a cpu that almost doubles in watt to beat ryzen by only up to 25% then its pretty lame and they gonna lose badly if they dont step up way more. The upgraded ryzen 5000 series with 3d cache literally catches up to that if not surpassing it... if amds 6000 series or whatever they gonna call it have 25% or more than the 5000 series like they usually do with the same tpp and 3d cache on top well bye bye intel unless they actually step up.
2022-01-17 12:41
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Compared to how far Ryzen was ahead it's pretty big step but i agree ryzen will probably take the crown with the new gen cpus
2022-01-17 13:00
4 years to beat amd by up to 25% isnt amazing at all... just for them to get beaten again in a few months and even more when amd finally go over to am5.
2022-01-17 12:37
1 reply
Yes AMD is unfortunately inferior now. They were equal and then better from 2017-end of 2020 so that's where my comment came from
2022-01-17 14:02
xD, your 5600x weaker than 10600KF, god bless ya!
2022-01-17 11:44
1 reply
+1
2022-01-17 11:48
#4
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
I5 12600k is monster for its price
2022-01-17 10:44
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#17
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Europe JohnnyPayn
12400f is same as the 12600k overclocking is overrated anyways
2022-01-17 11:23
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#44
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
Yes but in general its very good option
2022-01-17 12:14
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#47
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Europe JohnnyPayn
yeah i figured if you go for intel rather buy a cheap one and upgrade every few years as the expensive ones aren't worth the extra cash as you need a new mobo for almost every new gen anyways and every 3 gens > older expensive cpu you potentially even save money so getting a 150-200€value chip every few years + new mobo > 300€+ chip
2022-01-17 12:16
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#48
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
Thats why I bought i5 10600kf and 5th gen motherboard ez upgrade mens
2022-01-17 12:17
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#50
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Europe JohnnyPayn
ah cool friend of mine has the same i got the 9600k+1650super in a mid range pc that now catches dust in my cupboard and bought a 5800x+3060ti last year
2022-01-17 12:18
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#52
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
If you had a good deal for 3060ti ez men))
2022-01-17 12:19
i5 has great value for the money and it will work in the future as well so i would go for i5 plus it's overclocking capable
2022-01-17 10:48
#7
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Denmark Pand43N
you should rather go buy a girlfriend, if you have one, buy her something instead of cpu.
2022-01-17 10:50
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#8
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Denmark Pand43N
i have no idea about cpu sorry. But girlfriends like to get stuff, that i know.
2022-01-17 10:51
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#15
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
Thats called gold digger
2022-01-17 11:21
5 replies
#19
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Denmark Pand43N
thats called life
2022-01-17 11:23
3 replies
#45
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
You think your gf is loving you because of stuff you buy her yeah sure very good life lmao
2022-01-17 12:14
2 replies
#46
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Denmark Pand43N
thanks man, its a good life ill tell ya
2022-01-17 12:16
1 reply
#49
rain | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
If you are enjoying it then sure go for it !
2022-01-17 12:17
That's called women
2022-01-17 11:31
what kind of item is that?
2022-01-17 14:21
buy i3-8100 cheap and good.
2022-01-17 11:10
Intels prices are so good rn... I just grabbed 10400f for 115 € . Worth every cent
2022-01-17 11:29
12600k with ddr4 mainboard
2022-01-17 11:34
i7
2022-01-17 11:36
#53
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Germany TrTafitson
12600k gonna be better in almost any scenario (see this for example youtu.be/OkHMh8sUSuM), get a ddr4 mainboard for it though, cause ddr5 isnt really better yet, but waaay more expensive
2022-01-17 12:21
4 replies
was thinking of ROG B550 strix or something in that matter.
2022-01-17 14:23
3 replies
#67
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Germany TrTafitson
B550 is AMD, though??? What you want is a Z690 or maybe a H670
2022-01-17 14:31
2 replies
lmao literally didnt notice before like an hour ago... Yeah then im guessing i got to go Z590 GAMING CARBON
2022-01-17 16:47
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#72
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Germany TrTafitson
That would only work with the i7-11700 though since intel switched socket between 11th and 12th gen, for the i5-12600k youd still need z690
2022-01-17 16:53
Get amd, AMD>intel, i dont eant you to get scammed.
2022-01-17 14:25
#66
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Estonia Kukkel
Intel trash, get AMD
2022-01-17 14:26
1 reply
I ARENT THINK THAT
2022-01-17 16:48
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