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sergej and finnish scene
Spinx | 
Finland bobi44 
so according nuoriiikka: twitter.com/nuoriiikka/status/1483038901.. sergej is out of gorillas, now he can finally come back to tier 1, but who will take him? havu will announce today sm1llee and ottond, i guess every one knew it already. thoughts about sergej and havu?
2022-01-17 12:41
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sergej base salary is 12k a month, havus is 3k...
2022-01-17 12:42
5 replies
#3
Spinx | 
Finland bobi44
yeah i didn't mean that sergej is going to ahvu obv not because they added smilllee and ottond
2022-01-17 12:43
1 reply
ottond is back?
2022-01-17 16:36
Hes not worth that anymore
2022-01-17 16:02
2 replies
He never was.
2022-01-17 17:49
apeks offered maden 20k and liquid offered styko 25k LOL sergej is easily 12k even at this point. he just wont play under international team
2022-01-17 19:12
sergej not a tier 1 player anymore, so he wont be back to tier 1
2022-01-17 12:42
44 replies
#5
Spinx | 
Finland bobi44
he is, if you have watched gorillaz games. he would upgrade many teams. like og would really need him instead of niko
2022-01-17 12:43
38 replies
+1
2022-01-17 12:45
-plopski +sergej in nip would be sick
2022-01-17 12:47
23 replies
i like this one very much
2022-01-17 12:49
Does NIP speak Swedish? Im pretty sure sergej dont have enough good Swedish to play in Swedish
2022-01-17 12:56
21 replies
yes they do, but they can switch to english, it would take some time, but its worth it, because sweden scene suck atm
2022-01-17 12:57
16 replies
#32
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Sweden gNeJS
Worth switching to English just for sergej? I dont think so..
2022-01-17 13:10
14 replies
i think it is, it would benefit esetag too he could help hampus better in mid rounds
2022-01-17 13:13
13 replies
#37
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Sweden gNeJS
Switching the entire team to English would be okay if they signed Zywoo. Switching to English for sergej that hasnt played T1 since 2019 and couldnt cosistently perform in T3 Gorillaz, no i dint think so.
2022-01-17 13:17
12 replies
tehy won't win anything if they don't change something, with the lineup the wont win anything
2022-01-17 13:24
11 replies
#43
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Sweden gNeJS
Yeah not going English with Sergej is whats stopping them from beating NaVi, yikes...
2022-01-17 13:25
10 replies
+1. There is no point to switch to english just because of sergej. AND sergej is not a support player and thats why -niko in OG would not make sense unless valde/nexa wants to be full support.
2022-01-17 15:58
9 replies
#91
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Sweden gNeJS
He should go to Havu or allus team and be star player imo. After that he can go to a team like Ence or Mouz.
2022-01-17 16:25
8 replies
Kind of agree but havu's roster is locked and I am actually quite interested in their new project. Another question is if sergej wanna play with allu anymore.
2022-01-17 16:27
7 replies
#93
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Sweden gNeJS
Wasnt it Sergej and Allu that wanted Aleksi out in favour of Sunny?
2022-01-17 16:29
6 replies
Maybe, but when Allu was on the HLTV confirmed, sergej also tweeted some shit about allu alongside sunny.
2022-01-17 16:32
5 replies
#103
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Sweden gNeJS
Alright wont happen then i guess.
2022-01-17 16:38
4 replies
Who knows... Gorillaz could actually build decent team out of the benched finnish players. Sunny, Sergej, Zehn, Doto, Zoree... Only lacking IGL...
2022-01-17 16:44
3 replies
#107
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Sweden gNeJS
+1, would be fun for finnish scene to have some more teams aswell. Who are the 2 final guys in Havu?
2022-01-17 17:45
2 replies
I guess you got answer to that.
2022-01-17 20:10
1 reply
#129
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Sweden gNeJS
Yeah worst timing ever to ask that lol. Hope they can establish themself in top 30. Always fun when nordic CS is competitive.
2022-01-17 21:04
Lmao
2022-01-17 16:33
NIP would def speak English with Sergej, they did so with Allu too.
2022-01-17 13:07
2 replies
yeah they did with allu back in the day, also es3tag struggles with swedish. switching to english and making nip a nordic mix makes sense
2022-01-17 13:13
1 reply
#38
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Sweden gNeJS
Pretty sure es3tag is more or less fluent in Swedish now, at least in game. Switching to english would just cause yet another obstacle and NiP right now needs stability.
2022-01-17 13:20
#88
i am | 
Europe Zinn0
he can learn with es3tag
2022-01-17 16:18
Farming tier 2/3 teams doesn't necessarily mean you can perform in top10 tho. I also wouldn't consider a team like OG tier 1.
2022-01-17 12:49
10 replies
og can challenge every team there are so i count them as a tier 1, but i understand your opinion. nexa flamez mantuu sergej valde could do very well, if manta get his shit together with flamez
2022-01-17 12:51
9 replies
I don't think OG stand much of a chance versus most of the new and improved rosters in Tier 1 (G2, Faze, Astralis given some time, Vitality) but sure, their roster isn't bad. Think nexa being forced to IGL is gonna be very bad for them, but who knows
2022-01-17 13:05
1 reply
yeah not anymore with improved roster i agree, but last year they had so many close games and big wins, they just couldn't have deep runs and consistency
2022-01-17 13:05
Could be a good roster, though I would like to see them signing a dedicated IGL to replace valde, who has been struggling a lot for quite a while now
2022-01-17 16:12
6 replies
valde was support before and nexa can be support too, so would just get rid of niko
2022-01-17 20:17
5 replies
Yeah but nexa doesn’t want to IGL anymore and Valde supposedly doesn’t want do it either
2022-01-17 20:18
4 replies
yeah i know thats why i said -niko.... you said they could replace valde and i answered that valde support -niko???
2022-01-17 20:20
3 replies
True but I wrote #84 as a response the roster you proposed in #20
2022-01-17 20:24
2 replies
yeah true, i smell miscommunication here:DD
2022-01-17 20:26
1 reply
Yeah mens))
2022-01-17 20:33
he goes negative against academy teams and only farms rating vs teams like x gamers and aab (literally who???)
2022-01-17 12:49
#97
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Sweden GabeeM
It’s very uncertain though because he was playing tier 2 sometimes tier 3 teams and playing good but if he is a true tier 1 player his stats should’ve been around 1.2 rating or more and the were more like 1.1.
2022-01-17 16:34
gorillaz had very rough year and played very poorly but still sergej managed to put good numbers. hltv.org/stats/players/11916/sergej?star.. with good igl, with good team structure he will bounce back to tier 1 very quickly
2022-01-17 12:47
4 replies
Good numbers? It literally says "okay" and it is against tier 2/3. Nothing against sergej but your opinion seems quite biased.
2022-01-17 16:00
3 replies
when your team is always losing these numbers are good.
2022-01-17 16:01
2 replies
When you are playing opponents from tier 3 and you are supposed to be tier 1 player, this numbers are okay at max. He was their star player (also played awp for a while). Do you really think that there is no correlation between sergej's performance and Gorillaz' losing?
2022-01-17 16:13
1 reply
#100
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Sweden GabeeM
+1
2022-01-17 16:35
havu
2022-01-17 12:43
5 replies
#6
Spinx | 
Finland bobi44
sergej won't go havu
2022-01-17 12:44
4 replies
why?
2022-01-17 13:33
3 replies
havu have roster locked already
2022-01-17 13:35
1 reply
ok then
2022-01-17 13:35
and sergejs buy out is too much for havu
2022-01-17 13:35
#7
Spinx | 
Finland bobi44
i did not mean that sergej will go havu. i tried to ask thoughts about sergej and havus new roster
2022-01-17 12:45
#9
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Greece RedWinter
ottonD aerial xseven sergej IGL top 15 team
2022-01-17 12:46
1 reply
don't think so. without aleksi aerial and seven isn't tier 1 players
2022-01-17 12:48
#10
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Finland HARD4ENCE
How do you know the players HAVU will announce is sm1llee (literally who?) and ottoNd? This would have been a lifetime chance to pick up sergej, like wtf.
2022-01-17 12:47
9 replies
ottond is kinda obvious because they need awp, and smile is upcoming player. And if you click my link you see that nouriiikka confirms it
2022-01-17 12:49
7 replies
#27
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Finland HARD4ENCE
And wtf is sergej about to do? Does he just expect to join a t1 team straight out the gate after being out of the scene for like 1,5 years? No international team (at least t1) will pick him up. He should humble up and come to realization if he let his career go down this path he needs to grind his way back up. And only reasonable option in that case would be HAVU.
2022-01-17 12:59
6 replies
they had roster locked before sergej was available, sergej is still contracted to gorillas and i don't think that havu will pay his buyout + big fat salary
2022-01-17 13:00
#39
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Sweden gNeJS
+1 i dont know what this is but thread starter seems to believe that the top 10 teams are standing in que to sign free agent Sergej.
2022-01-17 13:23
4 replies
i don't think about top 10 team, but top 20 teams would be perfect to him. +sergej isn't free agent so doubt he will sign for a long time
2022-01-17 13:30
3 replies
#56
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Sweden gNeJS
Maybe a team like Ence or Ecstatic. Apeks is full now but that could have been an option.
2022-01-17 13:36
2 replies
back to ence would be good move to sergej
2022-01-17 13:37
1 reply
Lol he is not on Ence level, tier2 player rn
2022-01-17 16:34
they signed them before sergej was free.
2022-01-17 16:39
#16
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Greece RedWinter
anyway the only real option I see is OG instead of bot niko, although he won't have aleksi to vouch for him
2022-01-17 12:49
1 reply
yes, make valde support and give sergej good roles
2022-01-17 12:52
Sergej to OG rebuild Mouz should’ve get him for ropz but....
2022-01-17 12:50
10 replies
yeah sergej would have been very good pick up for mouz
2022-01-17 12:52
9 replies
Just imagine Frozen star torzsi awper Sergej lurker Bymas entry Dexter igl(but they should look for the better replacement)
2022-01-17 13:25
8 replies
i like this one very very much
2022-01-17 13:29
dexter could be ok support/igl to this team tho
2022-01-17 13:32
6 replies
Yeah but u know this team is pretty young so they need someone like karrigan,snappi,... to lead them and imo dexter is not that guy
2022-01-17 13:35
5 replies
yeah thats true
2022-01-17 13:35
maybe give nbk change to be igl/support?? just need to kick dexter
2022-01-17 13:36
3 replies
I dont think its a good idea either But im 100% agreed with u about igl who supports too
2022-01-17 13:42
2 replies
yeah its not perfect idea, but they just signed nbk so they wont bench him so -dexter +sergej and give nbk a change is realistic. If it wont work then try to get igl support with experience.
2022-01-17 13:43
1 reply
Exactly I just said that regardless of what happened in the roster But if nbk says he would like to be the igl/support then why not at least they can try And if the things didn’t go well just remove him for igl
2022-01-17 13:53
#23
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Namibia aimdemon
Wait havu ottond? I'm a havu fan again
2022-01-17 12:55
1 reply
yes, i hope ottond will find his old form again
2022-01-17 12:56
#33
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Sweden gNeJS
Sergej good but "back to tier 1" no. Couldnt carry in tier 3 with Gorillaz so dont think he is ready for T1 yet.
2022-01-17 13:12
1 reply
he wasn't ready in ence too, but when you give opportunity he will learn fast. he is still young and he would bounce back fast, just need opportunity
2022-01-17 13:15
#41
JK | 
Asia flipflop
Apeks would've looked deadly with him
2022-01-17 13:24
1 reply
i agree
2022-01-17 13:32
LEZGOOO HAVU OTTOND #HAVUJA
2022-01-17 13:26
Like people have said I would see sergej joining a tier 2 international roster or a finnish org for starters if/when he gets released from the gorillaz contract. Honestly a team like Kova with sergej and doto would be an alright contender in smaller tournaments.
2022-01-17 13:39
3 replies
i think sergej can do better than kova, at least havu. he is still young he played well when team played poorly
2022-01-17 13:41
2 replies
nt now that kova has a proper coach + analyst. they're going top 30 in 2 months
2022-01-17 14:03
Yet to be seen how the new Havu roster will work out, sergej would be a cool addition but Sm1llee is a promising player putting up numbers despite extremely inconsistent results from hReds in general. Havu certainly has been lacking in the consistency department so an addition of two players who don't really have slumps like Aerial and xseveN is huge for the team. I guess the main takeaway is that sergej just has to play for starters, another long break will just do harm and then it's gonna be the tier 3 CS blues without a doubt.
2022-01-17 14:13
#61
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Serbia Ljannister
He would be good fit in OG. Dunno for Ence.
2022-01-17 13:43
a team like mouz nxt could maybe pick him up next weplay season and could add him for free on their main roster later on if needed
2022-01-17 13:46
1 reply
+1
2022-01-17 13:48
#65
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Finland TQMM1
Sergej would have been maybe fitted in g2 to replace jackz but thats not gonna happen. I dont think rn there is team in top 20 for him (dont know if some of the teams are looking to make roster change). Zehn sergej doto could maybe make some potential finnish team? It would be sick to see him playing with jimpphat in the future. There is a few options for him but that buyout is going to reduce these team offers.
2022-01-17 13:51
Ecstatic -daffu +sergej
2022-01-17 14:02
#68
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Finland autism@exe
should have gone to Faze 2 years ago
2022-01-17 14:02
#71
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Finland Vilujay
Ence sergej or OG sergej, cant think of any other teams
2022-01-17 14:20
1 reply
yes i agree
2022-01-17 15:25
OG? ENCE? But most likely bench till the end of the season
2022-01-17 14:25
1 reply
yes i agree
2022-01-17 15:25
#73
s0m | 
Ukraine ple_
sergej leaving gorillaz now is kinda late i think, many teams that could have gotten him have already locked their lineups (Apeks, HAVU, mouz, ENCE possibly cuz of maden rumors) maybe OG instead of niko tho
2022-01-17 14:32
1 reply
yes i agree with you. og is only change now
2022-01-17 15:24
I'd like to see him join a team like Havu to get his name out there again...He kinda has to show that he still has it before i think he can actually come back to a T1 team. (i don't consider Havu T1).
2022-01-17 16:07
1 reply
I wish but apparently Havu signed sm1llee already
2022-01-17 16:16
I hope he goes to mouz over dexter. NBK can take over IGL duties
2022-01-17 16:18
tier 2 if lucky got 16-0d by mouz nxt on nuke (this was gorillaz map pick)
2022-01-17 16:19
New Havu good. Just give them some time to perform. Sergej is in the same spot as Michu. He needs to get new boost from lower level. -Choco +Sergej maybe :DD
2022-01-17 16:18
#94
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Finland Owava
sergej will join forces with his little brother Jimpphat in new roster, with Mikko 'XartE' Välimaa as IGL, and doto and jemi will fill the roster for now. Source: trust me
2022-01-17 16:29
sm1llee is an unproven onliner and ottoNd is most definitely washed up. Cant see HAVU making the climb to top 30. Also according to that tweet, allu and ZOREE in same team? oopee and Arvid? Jesus christ, finnish scene truly is dead
2022-01-17 16:37
1 reply
Says the swedish guy :d
2022-01-17 20:12
#102
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Finland saunamdma
so havu downgraded both roles, just disband at this point imo
2022-01-17 16:37
1 reply
->roskiin
2022-01-17 17:52
#106
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France r0ckT
sergej joining up with xseven, aerial and ottond could be sick for havu
2022-01-17 16:46
team idea: allu xseven aerial sergej maikelele ez win next major
2022-01-17 17:51
3 replies
sergej aerial and seven wont play with allu
2022-01-17 20:19
2 replies
true. and they will never be relevant again. maybe sergej on mouz or something, but definitely not xseven or aerial.
2022-01-17 22:18
1 reply
agree. sergej can play n a good team some point if he gets motivation back, but aerial and seven is past their prime and wont play ever again in tier 1 team
2022-01-18 08:13
Why is everyone obsessed with this guy? Editored: I haven't seen him make one good choice in his career, except for accepting to join Ence maybe. If you think about it, he screwed allu over publicly instead of direct talks, his org members indicated at him being spoiled brat who has never worked a hour of real work in his life, he left for the army supposedly motivated, yet cut it short. Then joining this Gorillaz project, that has been stalling for a full year regarding in-game results as well as organizational order. I guess he was a decent rifle, but not as good as people consider him. I think people just want to believe and prefer optimistic delusions that would make a great story.
2022-01-17 18:02
3 replies
#112
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Finland maelli
Have you seen him playing?
2022-01-17 17:56
1 reply
Actually I did some years back. But that was before he did all the efforts at making himself irrelevant.
2022-01-17 18:04
nt allu
2022-01-17 17:56
#114
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Ramko
he is going to ence 100%
2022-01-17 17:58
#120
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Lebanon Dogman69
worthless thread, too many finns
2022-01-17 20:14
1 reply
123 comments atm, i think this was ok thread
2022-01-17 20:20
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