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AX1LE WHAT A GOAT
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North America drac0z 
making top 5 in his first year in t1 as a RIFLER. not to mention he's only 19 years old you can say whatever you want about him, but you should at least respect his talent. ez 4 ax1le
2022-01-17 20:20
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2022-01-17 20:21
It would have better if u had changed the title to good rifler instead of calling goat . Pathetic
2022-01-17 20:21
6 replies
he is russian fakeflagger what do you expect
2022-01-17 20:28
5 replies
#79
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North America drac0z
false
2022-01-17 20:51
4 replies
yeah sure, ruski
2022-01-17 20:51
3 replies
#81
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North America drac0z
any proof?
2022-01-17 20:51
2 replies
your posts + threads + this one
2022-01-17 20:52
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#87
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North America drac0z
what do my posts have anything to do with this?
2022-01-17 20:53
real ones remember 5balls ax1le B)
2022-01-17 20:22
5 replies
#20
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Russia M1shV4T
+1
2022-01-17 20:26
yes and then chilling in gambit (main roster) few years ago
2022-01-17 20:35
#103
b1t | 
Ukraine devitt
undeserved placement
2022-01-17 21:00
2 replies
#140
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Sweden any!
Yes b0t undeserved top-8
2022-01-18 00:03
1 reply
#161
b1t | 
Ukraine devitt
was he actually that bad throughout the year? Imo he should be among the best, no?
2022-01-18 09:02
#4
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India Jester_Bard
True.
2022-01-17 20:22
Ax1le's rookie year > B1t's in terms of individual performance I get that B1t achieved a lot, but his stats were nowhere close to Ax1les
2022-01-17 20:23
66 replies
laughing my f* ass off
2022-01-17 20:23
40 replies
I wonder fucking why
2022-01-17 20:25
38 replies
because my ass likes to laugh and because LAN performance under that much pressure and in crucial moments > all those online stats anyways I dislike no one so both played well, b1t rookie major winner is insane
2022-01-17 20:27
37 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1.. Their stats are nearly identical ON LAN. How is B1t miles above Ax1le, when the only thing he's substantially better than him at on LAN is surviving%? Then look at the rest of the year, Ax1le is miles above B1t in every category except surviving%; hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1.. Stop just looking at rating. Look at what B1t is actually doing in the server. He's the Jame of riflers.
2022-01-17 20:32
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#49
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Poland v1ctorex
Jame of riflers, wtf? explaib
2022-01-17 20:35
2 replies
he's baiting so hard atm don't care
2022-01-17 20:35
hes baiting but what he means is that b1t is a passive rifler whereas ax1le is getting his stats as part of the entry pack with nafany, which makes ax1le more impressive
2022-01-17 20:59
wait what? nearly identical? hahahha you must be baiting atm 1.12 rating vs 1.21 rating on LAN? truly nearly identical hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1.. look at major diff llllllllllllllllllllllll
2022-01-17 20:35
9 replies
Did you click the link I sent? Look beyond rating, they had nearly identical KPR, impact, assists, ADR. The only thing B1t was far better at were headshots and surviving%. That surviving% is exactly why his rating is so high Yes, Ax1le underperformed at the Major, but you can't look at a single event where B1t's team didn't lose a map to compare the two
2022-01-17 20:37
7 replies
you're right and you're respectful, so I respect Also I respect every player, both had insane years to begin their careers, I just don't like you disrespecting him like 'the jame of riflers'? the kid is performing insane on LAN
2022-01-17 20:39
6 replies
He's performing well, yes, but I hate seeing people call him a top-5 rifler in the world on LAN when he isn't even in the top-15 ON LAN in terms of ADR, KPR, impact, assists.... He's in the top-5 in two major categories, surviving and headshots. That surviving% is why is rating is so high
2022-01-17 20:41
5 replies
But also count friend that he plays with S1mple and Elec? The other 14 before him are maybe the stars of their team you know? I don't think there are much enemies left on the server when playing with s1mple and Elec? You maybe come across the last 2 and kill them and end with 50adr but all (crucial) duels won, you see what I mean?
2022-01-17 20:43
4 replies
Absolutely, but can you really say that he's a top-5 or even top-10 rifler then? If they use him as the clean up crew?
2022-01-17 21:00
3 replies
It's indeed very early to say that, I'd say the last months he surely looked like it. But you made some good points. For me at least, if I had to choose my team to win I would choose him))) Thanks for interesting and good conversation btw
2022-01-17 21:03
2 replies
Oh let me just say I don't think he's a bad player at all!!! I think he's new, but he's playing his position perfectly and it's awesome to see. I just don't think he's a star yet. I bet playing under S1mple and Electronic will easily turn him into one in the months/years to come!!
2022-01-17 21:05
1 reply
Yes and I actually agree with many of your points looking closer to it. It all just went so crazy by winning that much. Will be interesting year 2022.
2022-01-17 21:07
#86
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Finland notits
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1.. ez4ax1le, 5x better player tbh
2022-01-17 20:53
hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?event.. hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?event=5.. very similar stats my boy, imagine counting that V4 tier 4 event
2022-01-17 20:36
12 replies
Just saying, look at ADR, KPR, impact... It's not like B1t was miles above on LAN, they're all within 0.01 points
2022-01-17 20:39
11 replies
So similiar stats on big events B1T played much better on major B1T won the major Stop being delusional
2022-01-17 20:57
10 replies
Why not look at the rest of the year then? If they held similar stats on LAN, B1t beat him in one event, and Ax1le was better in the other what? 15 events of the year?
2022-01-17 20:58
9 replies
8 replies
Funny, because unless we're looking at two different pages I see that they have nearly identical impact, ADR, KPR, APR... The only thing B1t is better at is DPR, which has the greatest impact on rating Look beyond the rating when you compare players, there's a reason Jame had a 1.20+ rating most of the year
2022-01-17 21:03
7 replies
Well its not a surprise that he has low DPR rate when NaVi destroyed everyone in 2021 hardly giving 10+ rounds for their opponents most of the time, also B1T's role in the team makes him getting these numbers They have similiar Impact Rating sure, but 1.21 rating>1.12 rating Also 1.27 (1.23 impact)>1.02 (1.01 Impact) on major 1 major>0 majors 8 events won>6 events won Stop being delusional
2022-01-17 21:12
6 replies
Are we still talking best rookie of 2021, or best rookie of one event of 2021? Also I just told you why you shouldn't just use rating, you said it exactly right. It makes sense why he has a low DPR, and that's the exact same reason he has a high rating. Don't be cringe and use team achievements to judge individual performance. Pretty easy to win when you have two of the best players in the game on your team
2022-01-17 21:17
5 replies
"Don't be cringe and use team achievements to judge individual performance." With this mindset YEKINDAR should be #4
2022-01-17 21:21
4 replies
Now you're getting it
2022-01-17 21:29
3 replies
No I dont, because you still rate axile higher than b1t
2022-01-17 22:04
2 replies
That's fine, you don't have to agree with me. HLTV does, pretty sure they're a better judge than either of us🤷
2022-01-17 22:12
1 reply
nobody is perfect 😋
2022-01-17 22:15
#56
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Poland v1ctorex
Identical hahahha 1.12 vs 1.21
2022-01-17 20:36
2 replies
Look beyond ratings
2022-01-17 20:39
He doesn't know maths chill
2022-01-17 20:44
#89
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Finland notits
completely wrong in saying hes the "jame of riflers", his survival% is only higher because navi dont lose many rounds. you can see that even boombl4 (the guy who always dies first and the most) has a higher survival% than most players
2022-01-17 20:54
6 replies
Yes absolutely, that's why his rating is so high. You can't point to another statistic to account for his rating
2022-01-17 20:57
3 replies
#106
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Finland notits
youre right, i really dont see any other stat that hes exceptionally better at than ax1le, opening kill success is the same pretty much, ax1le better at flashes, theres nothing that stands out aside from survival%
2022-01-17 21:02
2 replies
There's nothing wrong with that, it's a good playstyle and works amazing for Na'vi. However, it's pretty hard to say he's one of the best players in the world or a superstar, when he doesn't really have the stats to back it up yet I think he absolutely will be a star, I just think it's unfair to say that he is yet
2022-01-17 21:06
1 reply
#115
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Finland notits
i completely agree weve seen him play bad when navi werent winning everything and he was a substitute, so we know he has a weakness in him
2022-01-17 21:09
some people are just ultra biased and delusional
2022-01-17 20:58
1 reply
Give me a stat that B1t is exceptional at
2022-01-17 20:59
I'm glad
2022-01-17 20:28
#9
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Russia EL30
+1
2022-01-17 20:24
True
2022-01-17 20:24
#13
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Denmark slacking
+1 but get ready to be attacked by ivan fans
2022-01-17 20:25
1 reply
Oh god you were so right
2022-01-17 21:10
b1t is a real rookie who did it on LAN, no one expected such an improvement from him in the environment where everyone expected him to "choke" (Like Gambit partly did). That's why his rookie year was objectively better
2022-01-17 20:27
11 replies
#24
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Slovakia Daev0n
Everybody seems to forget b1t's first months in NaVi..
2022-01-17 20:27
1 reply
> online > on LAN
2022-01-17 20:28
#28
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Russia EL30
There were some expectations for b1t at least. Doesn't matter good or bad. Ax1le wasn't even known to anybody
2022-01-17 20:28
1 reply
no one really knew about b1t before he's got promoted to the main roster
2022-01-17 20:29
B1t did it on LAN with a team that was winning everything in dominant fashion Fun fact, B1t was not in the top-15 best players in ANY stat line other than headshots and DPR. Hardly star stats. He's like the Jame of riflers
2022-01-17 20:29
6 replies
so basically like Twistzz but better in the one stat twistzz is good in?
2022-01-17 20:31
1 reply
Haha, I like Twistzz because he's Canadian but I'll freely admit he's not a superstar right now However, Twistzz did beat B1t in every category on LAN other than surviving% and by extension rating
2022-01-17 20:34
Notable stats 1.21 rating in elite events (#6) 73% KAST (#8) 1.11 rating in big matches (#9) +373 k/d difference (#13) > B1t did it on LAN with a team that was winning everything in dominant fashion the worst excuse I've ever heard. B1T's addition was reason why navi started dominating, then flamie should've been a top10 player every year if it had been so easy all this time. Guy was literally performing on the same level as electronic on Cologne and Major, and even outperformed him on BLAST Fall. 1.27 rating on his 1st ever event with crowd (major) when ax1le had some beautiful 1.02, even worse than nafany (and you can't blame the team, Gambit have made it to the semis even with him ghosting)
2022-01-17 20:44
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Other important stats to consider, all on LAN, top-30, min 30 maps played; 1.13 Impact (#17) 48.3% 1+ kill rounds (#12) 78.7 ADR (#20) 0.71 KPR (#16) 0.14 APR (#15) 0.11 Openings per round (#18) All of these were ON LAN this year, where he supposedly went massive. How can you say he's a top-10 player, better than all other rookies, when he can't even crack top-15 in any of these stats that stars are supposed to have? Ax1le literally did better in all these categories except multikills ON LAN, where he supposedly shit the bed You want to know the stats he did amazing in? 0.56 DPR (#4, literally one behind Jame) 76.1 KAST (#3, where literally 4/5 Navi players are in the top-5) And headshot stats, where he topped the list obviously These are literally Jame level numbers, people criticize Jame for only doing well in these stats and having a high rating. Why aren't they doing that for B1t??
2022-01-17 20:56
#73
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Ukraine Valta
NAVI won everything after b1t joined , so......
2022-01-17 20:47
1 reply
Absolutely, he's a fantastic addition to the team and obviously boosted team chemistry. That however doesn't provide any input into individual performance
2022-01-17 20:59
1,02 rating at the Major under pressure really better than b1t XDDDDDDDDDDD stupid onliner
2022-01-17 20:32
#45
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Russia ToughGuy
He's not? Online=irrelevant pretty much anyone who is not gambit fan knows that And he was dogshit on lan aswell
2022-01-17 20:33
3 replies
He had identical statistics to B1t on LAN other than surviving%. Don't just look at rating, look at what they do on the server
2022-01-17 20:35
2 replies
1,11 rating ax1le < 1,21 rating b1t fully on LAN 1.02 rating ax1le < 1.27 rating b1t on the Major stop crying he is an onliner for sure.
2022-01-17 20:38
1 reply
#124
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Slovakia DR_GON
actually look at what is hltv rating is made from
2022-01-17 21:36
#48
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Denmark nicram64
+1
2022-01-17 20:34
+1
2022-01-17 23:12
It doesn't matter in the end, B1t is rolling in the dough. Calmly buys his babushka a house at the black sea from where she can watch across to see Putin change into his pyjamas. Ax1le has all his MVPs and visits the candy-store for a lollipop because that's all he can afford. ZywOo was the best rookie, B1t is the richest rookie. Ax1le is neither.
2022-01-18 02:10
1 reply
Pretty sure all the Gambit boys made like 350k this year haha, I'm sure he's doing alright
2022-01-18 02:28
onliner
2022-01-17 20:23
2 replies
+1
2022-01-17 20:24
#15
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North America drac0z
ratio
2022-01-17 20:25
#7
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North America 2287
thought he'd be 6th but still gotta respect
2022-01-17 20:23
#12
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Denmark slacking
he was great at start of the year but didn't convince me in LAN
2022-01-17 20:24
1 reply
People are blind to see the difference between online and LAN here ..
2022-01-17 20:25
And he has a girlfriend Waht a GOAT
2022-01-17 20:25
trash onliner takes top5 instead of really strong LAN players
2022-01-17 20:26
im not mad but someone is :^) well deserved fr tho
2022-01-17 20:26
#22
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Russia mshkoda
maybe best rifler of new generation, only start of the way i hope
2022-01-17 20:26
1 reply
its him and yekindar for me
2022-01-17 20:29
#23
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Australia thisba!tes
IN G.O.A.T AX1LE WE TRUST
2022-01-17 20:26
1 reply
=1
2022-01-17 20:28
would be better if not bot on lan
2022-01-17 20:28
#31
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Russia ToughGuy
1,02 at the major? 0 relevant lans? Not great in my book
2022-01-17 20:28
3 replies
+1
2022-01-17 20:31
+1
2022-01-17 20:50
+1 onliner lul
2022-01-18 07:59
#34
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Russia RogueDecay
online hero , lan zero
2022-01-17 20:29
5 replies
he has like 1.15 rating on lan !??!!?
2022-01-17 20:30
4 replies
#44
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Russia RogueDecay
yes and for top 5 thats anecdotal
2022-01-17 20:33
2 replies
Well b1t's 9th is anecdotal aswell
2022-01-17 20:35
Sadly for you and everyone malding in this thread half the year was played online for everyone. Ax1le was in the question for being the top 5 player pretty much since the start of the year and he 100% deserves his spot, meanwhile b1t got top 10 even tho he didn't perform up to a good level for almost 6 months of the year.
2022-01-17 21:38
hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?event.. not exactly 1,15 rating. this is not top 5 player in the world for sure HLTV have no business on that list.
2022-01-17 20:40
respect!
2022-01-17 20:31
#40
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Norway HologramM
He will be more consistent, i want to believe
2022-01-17 20:31
#46
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Europe JohnnyPayn
Onliner
2022-01-17 20:34
Its funny because he played mediocre at the major and his always better at online events more than LANs Hobbit on the other hand had every stats better than Ax1le, also much better results at the major Such a bullshit
2022-01-17 20:39
8 replies
HLTV are on drugs or ruskis paid them, not sure
2022-01-17 20:43
7 replies
idk man but for me electronic>Hobbit>Ax1le HLTV is very funny
2022-01-17 20:45
4 replies
+1
2022-01-17 20:46
1 reply
Bro, tell me what possibly more could electronic do to make it to TOP 5? Won 8 events with NaVi (including Major) 9 EVPs 1.28 Rating (1.43 Impact) on major 1.23 Rating (1.27 Impact) on Big Events Consistently perform great since 2018 Like wtf
2022-01-17 20:51
i would also add b1t >>>>>>>>>>> ax1le, hobbit
2022-01-17 20:48
1 reply
electronic, b1t, hobbit, sh1ro, ax1le
2022-01-17 21:03
Electronic would have been higher if ruskis had paid them lmao haha
2022-01-17 20:46
1 reply
ruskis hate NAVI since it is Ukrainian organization so they wanna see Gamb0t's ruskis higher in ranks
2022-01-17 20:48
who's #4 prophet?
2022-01-17 20:47
1 reply
#76
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North America drac0z
sh1ro 100%
2022-01-17 20:49
carried by hobbit, nice top 5
2022-01-17 20:52
1 reply
True
2022-01-17 20:53
#84
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Canada JonZherka
H0bbit>
2022-01-17 20:52
#85
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 Respect to Ax1Le - What a rookie year indeed! Same for sh1ro, in that regard. :D
2022-01-17 20:52
#114
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Brazil yDoFFer
yea
2022-01-17 21:08
gj
2022-01-17 21:25
#125
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Brazil guelzy1
fallen better
2022-01-17 21:37
#129
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North America drac0z
bump
2022-01-17 21:54
he looked pretty flat on lan. elec hobbit and bit deserved to be higher, but whatever.
2022-01-17 22:02
1 reply
i agree but what can we do about that? same shit is gonna happened in this year, because same people will create this ranking
2022-01-17 22:21
I think HLTV top-20 is no more relevant since 2020 Too many questionable positions
2022-01-17 22:14
5 replies
true I think they changed judges since 2020 or something is wrong
2022-01-17 22:22
#138
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North America drac0z
Respect ax1le yo
2022-01-17 23:11
3 replies
Respect +w onliner? What should I do next? Respect Skanooble or what?
2022-01-18 01:16
2 replies
#142
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North America drac0z
yes pls
2022-01-18 01:23
1 reply
No,no & 1 more time:NO!
2022-01-18 04:17
#135
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Aruba ESY!
Ax1LE GOAT
2022-01-17 22:15
Damn fools all forgot that there were lots of matches and games before Major and a few LANs that we had, fishbowl fish memory
2022-01-18 01:28
19yo goat...
2022-01-18 01:29
#145
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North America drac0z
bumpp
2022-01-18 02:03
#147
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Serbia eliiiiii_
NiKo, electronic, YEKINDAR, Hobbit >>> and it's not even close, guy is gonna get shut down next year on LAN when he'll be forced to carry sometimes, rather than just be slotted into a system that wins everything (online)
2022-01-18 02:13
+1 but change title to good player
2022-01-18 02:40
I respect his talent and his skill, I don't respect the guys who made the top 20 list this year
2022-01-18 02:41
1 reply
i agree
2022-01-18 13:31
#152
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Poland Scromnick
actually ez 5 axile cuz 4 is for niko
2022-01-18 03:10
hobbit robbed axile onliner
2022-01-18 03:12
+1 Respect, he's very talented and skilled, only needs to gain more experiences onLAN.
2022-01-18 07:44
1 reply
#166
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North America drac0z
+1
2022-01-18 13:44
Onliner LUL. Electronic and hobbit robbed!
2022-01-18 07:58
damn the term goat is really overused
2022-01-18 09:04
everyone is a goat nowadays, huh? and sh1ro will be the goat next day? KEKW
2022-01-18 09:10
1 reply
#167
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North America drac0z
yes
2022-01-18 16:43
Its funny how hardcarrying riflers like electronic and Hobbit are gonna be lower than awp abuser sh1ro and axile who is worse in my eyes than two riflers mentioned in my comment
2022-01-18 13:33
top 4
2022-01-18 16:45
the word goat has suffered such an inflation
2022-01-18 16:46
great player, so mechanically gifted, definitely one of the very best riflers at the scene rn. He was on fire for the whole year, but especially in first half of 2021, that was something else, he was just destoying everyone, and it looked so smooth. Hope to see him playing in that form again soon
2022-01-18 16:47
1 reply
#172
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North America drac0z
+1
2022-01-18 21:16
#171
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North America drac0z
ez 4 ax1le
2022-01-18 21:16
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