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making top 5 in his first year in t1 as a RIFLER. not to mention he's only 19 years old
you can say whatever you want about him, but you should at least respect his talent.
ez 4 ax1le
gj)
It would have better if u had changed the title to good rifler instead of calling goat . Pathetic
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he is russian fakeflagger what do you expect
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yeah sure, ruski
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yes and then chilling in gambit (main roster) few years ago
True.
Ax1le's rookie year > B1t's in terms of individual performance
I get that B1t achieved a lot, but his stats were nowhere close to Ax1les
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laughing
my
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because my ass likes to laugh
and because LAN performance under that much pressure and in crucial moments > all those online stats
anyways I dislike no one so both played well, b1t rookie major winner is insane
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hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1..
Their stats are nearly identical ON LAN. How is B1t miles above Ax1le, when the only thing he's substantially better than him at on LAN is surviving%?
Then look at the rest of the year, Ax1le is miles above B1t in every category except surviving%;
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1..
Stop just looking at rating. Look at what B1t is actually doing in the server. He's the Jame of riflers.
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he's baiting so hard atm don't care
hes baiting but what he means is that b1t is a passive rifler whereas ax1le is getting his stats as part of the entry pack with nafany, which makes ax1le more impressive
wait what? nearly identical? hahahha you must be baiting atm
1.12 rating vs 1.21 rating on LAN? truly nearly identical
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1..
look at major diff llllllllllllllllllllllll
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Did you click the link I sent? Look beyond rating, they had nearly identical KPR, impact, assists, ADR. The only thing B1t was far better at were headshots and surviving%. That surviving% is exactly why his rating is so high
Yes, Ax1le underperformed at the Major, but you can't look at a single event where B1t's team didn't lose a map to compare the two
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you're right and you're respectful, so I respect
Also I respect every player, both had insane years to begin their careers, I just don't like you disrespecting him like 'the jame of riflers'?
the kid is performing insane on LAN
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He's performing well, yes, but I hate seeing people call him a top-5 rifler in the world on LAN when he isn't even in the top-15 ON LAN in terms of ADR, KPR, impact, assists....
He's in the top-5 in two major categories, surviving and headshots. That surviving% is why is rating is so high
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But also count friend that he plays with S1mple and Elec? The other 14 before him are maybe the stars of their team you know? I don't think there are much enemies left on the server when playing with s1mple and Elec?
You maybe come across the last 2 and kill them and end with 50adr but all (crucial) duels won, you see what I mean?
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Absolutely, but can you really say that he's a top-5 or even top-10 rifler then? If they use him as the clean up crew?
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It's indeed very early to say that, I'd say the last months he surely looked like it. But you made some good points.
For me at least, if I had to choose my team to win I would choose him)))
Thanks for interesting and good conversation btw
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Oh let me just say I don't think he's a bad player at all!!! I think he's new, but he's playing his position perfectly and it's awesome to see. I just don't think he's a star yet.
I bet playing under S1mple and Electronic will easily turn him into one in the months/years to come!!
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Yes and I actually agree with many of your points looking closer to it. It all just went so crazy by winning that much.
Will be interesting year 2022.
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16555/ax1..
ez4ax1le, 5x better player tbh
hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?event..
hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?event=5..
very similar stats my boy, imagine counting that V4 tier 4 event
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Just saying, look at ADR, KPR, impact... It's not like B1t was miles above on LAN, they're all within 0.01 points
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Why not look at the rest of the year then? If they held similar stats on LAN, B1t beat him in one event, and Ax1le was better in the other what? 15 events of the year?
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LAN comparison:
hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?startDa..
hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?start..
Excuse me?
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Funny, because unless we're looking at two different pages I see that they have nearly identical impact, ADR, KPR, APR...
The only thing B1t is better at is DPR, which has the greatest impact on rating
Look beyond the rating when you compare players, there's a reason Jame had a 1.20+ rating most of the year
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Well its not a surprise that he has low DPR rate when NaVi destroyed everyone in 2021 hardly giving 10+ rounds for their opponents most of the time, also B1T's role in the team makes him getting these numbers
They have similiar Impact Rating sure, but 1.21 rating>1.12 rating
Also 1.27 (1.23 impact)>1.02 (1.01 Impact) on major
1 major>0 majors
8 events won>6 events won
Stop being delusional
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Are we still talking best rookie of 2021, or best rookie of one event of 2021?
Also I just told you why you shouldn't just use rating, you said it exactly right. It makes sense why he has a low DPR, and that's the exact same reason he has a high rating.
Don't be cringe and use team achievements to judge individual performance. Pretty easy to win when you have two of the best players in the game on your team
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Now you're getting it
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Look beyond ratings
He doesn't know maths chill
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Yes absolutely, that's why his rating is so high. You can't point to another statistic to account for his rating
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There's nothing wrong with that, it's a good playstyle and works amazing for Na'vi. However, it's pretty hard to say he's one of the best players in the world or a superstar, when he doesn't really have the stats to back it up yet
I think he absolutely will be a star, I just think it's unfair to say that he is yet
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Give me a stat that B1t is exceptional at
I'm glad
True
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Oh god you were so right
b1t is a real rookie who did it on LAN, no one expected such an improvement from him in the environment where everyone expected him to "choke" (Like Gambit partly did). That's why his rookie year was objectively better
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> online
> on LAN
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no one really knew about b1t before he's got promoted to the main roster
B1t did it on LAN with a team that was winning everything in dominant fashion
Fun fact, B1t was not in the top-15 best players in ANY stat line other than headshots and DPR. Hardly star stats. He's like the Jame of riflers
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so basically like Twistzz but better in the one stat twistzz is good in?
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Haha, I like Twistzz because he's Canadian but I'll freely admit he's not a superstar right now
However, Twistzz did beat B1t in every category on LAN other than surviving% and by extension rating
Notable stats
1.21 rating in elite events (#6)
73% KAST (#8)
1.11 rating in big matches (#9)
+373 k/d difference (#13)
> B1t did it on LAN with a team that was winning everything in dominant fashion
the worst excuse I've ever heard. B1T's addition was reason why navi started dominating, then flamie should've been a top10 player every year if it had been so easy all this time. Guy was literally performing on the same level as electronic on Cologne and Major, and even outperformed him on BLAST Fall. 1.27 rating on his 1st ever event with crowd (major) when ax1le had some beautiful 1.02, even worse than nafany (and you can't blame the team, Gambit have made it to the semis even with him ghosting)
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Other important stats to consider, all on LAN, top-30, min 30 maps played;
1.13 Impact (#17)
48.3% 1+ kill rounds (#12)
78.7 ADR (#20)
0.71 KPR (#16)
0.14 APR (#15)
0.11 Openings per round (#18)
All of these were ON LAN this year, where he supposedly went massive. How can you say he's a top-10 player, better than all other rookies, when he can't even crack top-15 in any of these stats that stars are supposed to have? Ax1le literally did better in all these categories except multikills ON LAN, where he supposedly shit the bed
You want to know the stats he did amazing in?
0.56 DPR (#4, literally one behind Jame)
76.1 KAST (#3, where literally 4/5 Navi players are in the top-5)
And headshot stats, where he topped the list obviously
These are literally Jame level numbers, people criticize Jame for only doing well in these stats and having a high rating. Why aren't they doing that for B1t??
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Absolutely, he's a fantastic addition to the team and obviously boosted team chemistry. That however doesn't provide any input into individual performance
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He had identical statistics to B1t on LAN other than surviving%. Don't just look at rating, look at what they do on the server
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It doesn't matter in the end, B1t is rolling in the dough. Calmly buys his babushka a house at the black sea from where she can watch across to see Putin change into his pyjamas.
Ax1le has all his MVPs and visits the candy-store for a lollipop because that's all he can afford.
ZywOo was the best rookie, B1t is the richest rookie. Ax1le is neither.
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Pretty sure all the Gambit boys made like 350k this year haha, I'm sure he's doing alright
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People are blind to see the difference between online and LAN here ..
And he has a girlfriend
Waht a GOAT
trash onliner takes top5 instead of really strong LAN players
im not mad but someone is :^)
well deserved fr tho
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its him and yekindar for me
IN G.O.A.T AX1LE
WE TRUST
would be better if not bot on lan
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+1
+1
+1 onliner lul
online hero , lan zero
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yes and for top 5 thats anecdotal
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Well b1t's 9th is anecdotal aswell
Sadly for you and everyone malding in this thread half the year was played online for everyone.
Ax1le was in the question for being the top 5 player pretty much since the start of the year and he 100% deserves his spot, meanwhile b1t got top 10 even tho he didn't perform up to a good level for almost 6 months of the year.
hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?event.. not exactly 1,15 rating.
this is not top 5 player in the world for sure HLTV have no business on that list.
Onliner
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HLTV are on drugs or ruskis paid them, not sure
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+1
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i would also add b1t >>>>>>>>>>> ax1le, hobbit
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Electronic would have been higher if ruskis had paid them lmao haha
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ruskis hate NAVI since it is Ukrainian organization so they wanna see Gamb0t's ruskis higher in ranks
carried by hobbit, nice top 5
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Respect to Ax1Le - What a rookie year indeed! Same for sh1ro, in that regard. :D
he looked pretty flat on lan. elec hobbit and bit deserved to be higher, but whatever.
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I think HLTV top-20 is no more relevant since 2020
Too many questionable positions
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Respect +w onliner?
What should I do next? Respect Skanooble or what?
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19yo goat...
I respect his talent and his skill, I don't respect the guys who made the top 20 list this year
hobbit robbed axile onliner
+1 Respect, he's very talented and skilled, only needs to gain more experiences onLAN.
Onliner LUL. Electronic and hobbit robbed!
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great player, so mechanically gifted, definitely one of the very best riflers at the scene rn. He was on fire for the whole year, but especially in first half of 2021, that was something else, he was just destoying everyone, and it looked so smooth. Hope to see him playing in that form again soon
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