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American Conservartism
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Brazil Endaldo_Pereira 
The american conservative movement is completely nonsensical...The US was founded by the prime mover of revolutionary liberal subversion. "E pluribus unum" was never limited in scope. Its not surprising that the American State is the responsible for the overturning of traditional monarchical European Order, that is: the overturning of Christendom.
2022-01-18 01:12
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2022-01-18 01:13
agreed. what is worse than conservatism, is that the united states is divided by politics and ideologies.
2022-01-18 01:15
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United States TrashPanda
The world*
2022-01-18 01:18
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Yeah it's really everywhere, but most the media is in the US so that's most of what people see Crazy that political divide is so dramatized on TV, because idk about anyone else but I don't really feel it in real life? I am a fairly far left person, I work in a conservative-dominant field, and I've never had any problems with disagreeing with anyone politically
2022-01-18 01:28
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No it isnt everywhere
2022-01-19 10:32
The west* Everywhere else just has 1 side powerful enough to have destroyed the other side or a population so fucked that paying attention to governmental affairs doesn't matter. It's really only western countries that divide 50/50 on literally everything just so we can have arguments and feel like we've won something.
2022-01-18 01:29
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This strong 50 50 polarisation is UK and US because of 2 party systems, we mainlanders have a different thing
2022-01-19 10:32
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There are more than 2 parties in Britain and the third party has been in power recently and the parties even work together, or have in the past. "mainlanders" aren't any different, Germany has had 1 party for the past 25 years that's usually called a dictatorship, France has 2 parties.
2022-01-19 10:34
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Bro you need to take a political science course
2022-01-19 10:35
Usa just divided to 2 Eu countries has 20 parties lol
2022-01-19 10:28
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Kosovo Arkanan
ok endaldo_pereira
2022-01-18 01:16
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Brazil TiagoQc
every side has bad takes... but conservatives have less
2022-01-18 01:16
#5
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United States TrashPanda
I’m not apologizing for old rich white ass clowns that don’t care about anything but making money and having pissing contests in their echo chamber.
2022-01-18 01:18
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gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
American conservatism is kind of in a wierd position cause it's leading a liberal economic policy but a conservative value-based ideology. Like it's kind of build off the "traditional" liberal values but only the economic.
2022-01-18 01:22
Either I can't read, or this is a lot of big words strung together to give the appearance of being smart You said a lot without really saying anything at all
2022-01-18 01:24
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USA is a country of freemason revolutionares. Its conservative movement will always lose politically because it only focuses on fighting the latest progressive fads but can't look at himself to see that its own basis are progressive.
2022-01-18 01:28
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So you want American conservatives to what? Establish a monarch?
2022-01-18 01:29
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Good question
2022-01-18 01:30
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I'm so confused
2022-01-18 01:36
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gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
You aren't alone I have no idea what he is saying. Is he suggestion that they aren't conservative enough???
2022-01-18 01:32
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I'd be horrified of what is more conservative than the US😂
2022-01-18 01:36
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Everything before the French Revolution was leaps and bounds more "conservative" if that label can be applied at all
2022-01-18 01:46
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I mean I guess, but there was a revolution for a reason...
2022-01-18 01:47
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Yeah, elites abandoned Christendom for freemason deism thats why
2022-01-18 01:49
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So you just want every conservative to fight for a church state?
2022-01-18 01:50
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I want mass conversions, specially from the elites. If that happens everything else falls back into place
2022-01-18 01:51
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I mean, most of the world isn't Christian. Kind of a weird fight Seems that in much of the west, Christianity is becoming less and less popular. Do you really think any type of THAT conservative policy would be politically effective?
2022-01-18 01:54
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I really do. In fact I think its the only way for conservatism to win at all. Everything else will just temporarily halt the velocity of progressivism but it will never stop it much less reverse it.
2022-01-18 01:55
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Well you have half the population that doesn't want to stop progressivism, what about them? You just kinda ignore them?
2022-01-18 02:01
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Of course not. I want to convert them as I said above.
2022-01-18 02:02
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Good luck I guess lmfao
2022-01-18 02:28
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You can laugh but ive seen it happen to the most lost, atheistic kinds of people. As long as there is faith there is hope.
2022-01-18 02:30
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I'm just not a fan of people that try to force their beliefs on others, sorry
2022-01-18 03:11
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Conversions must be genuine, therefore there is no forcing, Now once critical mass is reached, certainly there will be cultural and social pressures and thats the political win.
2022-01-18 11:00
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gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Idk if you know this but it's kind of in the "classical" conservative ideology to bigot against other people and races That's definitely forcing your beliefs on others.
2022-01-19 10:24
The primary ideology of America is libertarianism (freedom). Currently our climate is getting so progressive it is threatening freedom, that is what the right is claiming.
2022-01-18 02:02
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I sympathize with libertarianism but saying it is the main ideology of America is just not true. Besides that are many types of libertarians and the only ones I find respectful are the paleo-hoppean types and even those suffer from too much faith in materialistic "ethics"
2022-01-18 02:04
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Our constitution is built on the idea of giving power to the people. That is why we have guns, freedom of press, right to a attorney and speedy trial, freedom of religion, militia rights, etc. Everything our founding fathers did was basically a big “fuck you” to authority. Liberty is definitely the top thing the American government is built on.
2022-01-18 02:17
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Except that not all authority is the same. Rejecting natural, orderly authority is not the same as rejecting evil, disorderly and unnatural authority. This distinction is much needed. The first will only throw you right in the arms of more sinister masters ie of the later kind of authority.
2022-01-18 02:26
0/8
2022-01-18 01:26
who cars?
2022-01-18 01:27
Am I supposed to take blame for the actions that people living in the US 300 years ago made?
2022-01-18 01:39
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i'm not blaming NockBofferman for anything
2022-01-18 01:47
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Korea Rel^
+1
2022-01-18 01:58
I've studied this but depending on the field you choose your analysis will vary. Mainly US trying to raise their hegemony. You can look at the german war reparations, Dawes Plan, International Institutions, how they tried to breakdown British commonwealth. U.S should be considered the pussiest country because they did not engage in war until they understood how to control the war and aftermath. U.S only became a protagonist from the debt it gave, besides that idk
2022-01-18 02:17
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the US international policies were maybe the third worst thing to happen to the West, after the French Revolution and WWI
2022-01-18 03:21
US principles were wrong since the beginning. The rot of today is just the outcome of such system. They are a superpower by chance.
2022-01-18 02:32
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United States qoietsammy
right..
2022-01-18 02:35
I was gonna disagree 100% but I read it again and understood what you said, mainly +1 except when you say the US was FOUNDED on revolutionary thinking. that's simply not true, the ''american revolution'' wasn't a revolution. It was a series of reforms, first political then economical, intended to strenght local power over centralization. Obviously it's gonna vary depending on what meaning of ''revolution'' you're using, but what happened in the US wasn't even close to what happened in France, one was trying to reform the oppressive taxation system in the country (and in the proccess had to take out English domination) and give more power to the local, the other was a bunch of teens trying to destroy their civilization and everything behind them to give place to the ''amazing new world'' they were creating. the results are knows to everyone
2022-01-18 03:31
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thats the exoteric tale. The esoteric story one is actually a coup of the revolutionare elites against monarchy and the christianity.
2022-01-18 11:02
if you think they are bad you should see the american left
2022-01-18 03:41
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United States qoietsammy
true
2022-01-18 03:44
if I criticize the right is because I want it to win. I know the left are completely off the rails degenerates.
2022-01-18 11:03
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Brazil MimAcher
Conservative = zionism.
2022-01-18 03:45
In the west there's no right. Republicans Democrats one shit. First are Very Pro Israel, Democrats are very ProChildrenMurdering, i am happy i don't live on USA. I really want Traditional Monarchy back
2022-01-19 10:38
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