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CSGO = CIS?
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Australia rationale 
Six teams in top 30, wow.
2022-01-18 20:51
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#2
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Russia Strikeshow
Valorant=cis Csgo=cis Dota=cis
2022-01-18 20:52
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#11
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Gaming=cis
2022-01-18 20:55
What makes you think Valorant is CIS? ACEND is international, Liquid is Belgian/British, 100T, C9 and SEN are NA, KRU is South American, Secret is Filipino, XCrit is Asian, etc. There was a single CIS team in the top 16 in Champions.
2022-01-18 20:58
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#49
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Slovakia CRMN1
Valorant is pretty diversity-rich, that's true, but if you were to pick the best team of the year on both placings, ranking and prize won, then if I'm not mistaken it would most definitely be gambit although I haven't done the math myself.
2022-01-18 21:38
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#53
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Italy PhilD06
probably gambit or acend yeah, also sentinels is up there
2022-01-18 21:40
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Sentinels are a shit show Overconfident team with ego as high as mount Everest
2022-01-19 14:45
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#111
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Italy PhilD06
at the beginning they were winning everything, then they got worse yeah
2022-01-19 17:09
There were only 4 EMEA slots and 12 trash regions slots, so stop baiting. Btw 6/10 CIS players in Champions grand final.
2022-01-19 14:40
8 replies
How is me pointing out the facts about the nationality of teams baiting? If anything he was baiting by lying about Valo being CIS dominated.
2022-01-19 17:21
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First of all there is no CIS region in valorant like in CS:GO. And if u ever watched valorant esports u would have known that EMEA (EU+CIS) could have taken at least 15 slots if it was possible at Champions qualifiers. And valorant is really being CIS dominated (just not as hard as in CS:GO).
2022-01-19 17:33
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Sure, but why is it that most of the EMEA teams were EU and not CIS then? I see you trying to form an argument, but it still doesn’t change the fact that EMEA was dominated by Liquid and Fnatic for most of the year. The top 10 in the EMEA contains 2 CIS teams. That’s less than the number of Turkish teams in their own region, let alone the esport as a whole. And even if you want to put a lot of stock into Gambit’s sudden rise at the end of the year, ACEND did the same thing, except they actually won Champions.
2022-01-19 17:53
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Even Acend has CIS player in it. CIS team was considered the best for a half of the year and now considered the second best after Champions. The final went in Cloud9 - FaZe fashion, CIS team almost took the trophy. I'm not even sure that Acend would be favourites by odds against Gambit. EMEA was fucked by Riot last year, that's why ur point about other regions is wrong. CIS can be worse than EU sometimes, but there is no even competition between other regions and EMEA.
2022-01-19 18:14
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No CIS teams qualified for EMEA Masters 1, no CIS team qualified for Masters 2 Reykjavík, there was only 1 CIS team at Masters 3 Berlin, and there was only 1 CIS team at Champions. And in both cases it was Gambit. That means out of like 58 team slots CIS had 2. That’s less than 4%. And Gambit was only good for the last couple months of a 14 month season. And even if you wanna argue the region based slots, CIS is still only 2 out of nearly 20 slots.
2022-01-19 18:27
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But CIS teams had very few chances to qualify. Imagine major in CS:GO where CIS and EU teams r playing the same RMR with only 4 slots for the major. Ofc flukes will happen and some great teams wouldn't attend the major bcs of it.
2022-01-19 18:30
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Ah yes, it was a fluke EU qualified 90% of the time, compared to CIS’ 10%. That makes perfect sense. It was 18 flukes, I know it!
2022-01-19 19:17
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Ahahah, now u talk about EU, when even in EMEA quals CIS always had very few slots. 6/10 CIS players in Champions grand final, just live with that. Stop baiting and go watch some valorant instead.
2022-01-19 19:43
#119
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
I mean just like CS, Val tournaments have region slots, that's what makes it seem so diverse. I agree though it isn't CIS dominated currently.
2022-01-19 17:26
valorant or dota isnt cis
2022-01-18 21:07
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wait what
2022-01-18 22:48
Valorant=finnish
2022-01-18 21:14
25 replies
#38
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Finland 5way
what? :DD
2022-01-18 21:19
21 replies
Acend Bonecold Liquid Jamppi Fnatic Derke Big Kaspe 4 Finnish players in the top 5
2022-01-18 21:21
20 replies
G2(top 8th) hoody
2022-01-18 21:22
1 reply
Tenstar(top 11th) Polvi Koi(top 13th) H1ber
2022-01-18 21:25
#50
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Slovakia CRMN1
Derke is actually so good at that game lmao
2022-01-18 21:39
5 replies
I know Derke and Jamppi are actually shitting their enemies
2022-01-18 21:39
4 replies
#55
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Slovakia CRMN1
Jamppi not as much. He's far from the top jetts in the world atm in my opinion, but Derke was potentially a top 3 jett in the world in 2021.
2022-01-18 21:40
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#68
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Finland Nollegee
Jamppi still does really good while being the igl tbf
2022-01-18 22:12
2 replies
would love to see jamppi back in cs
2022-01-19 17:31
Agreed, Jamppi maining Jett, Oping, and IGLing is a ton of work. You would think they would give IGL to L1NK or soulcas, but TL has been pretty good regardless.
2022-01-19 19:19
Bonecold isn’t even the best player on his own team lmao. The top 4 is probably cNed, TenZ, Derke, nAts
2022-01-18 22:31
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I meant that in the europe's top 5 teams, there's 4 finnish players. while the next one that isn't in top 5 is in a top 8 team. lot better than in csgo I must say :DD
2022-01-18 22:33
Finns and Russians actually much closer to each other as people think.
2022-01-19 18:04
#133
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Finland 5way
mf name me teams, not players
2022-01-19 18:05
8 replies
Kova #23 in Europe :D
2022-01-19 18:46
7 replies
#139
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Finland 5way
exactly, in europe
2022-01-19 19:17
6 replies
aka the bestest region in valo
2022-01-19 19:52
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#148
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Finland 5way
but Kova aint even full finnish? wtf are you talking about. That's like saying team liquid and fnatic are good Finnish teams because of Jamppi and Derke :DD
2022-01-19 20:08
4 replies
jesmund + the other irrelevant player is good enough for it to be finnish. also derke is like the worlds best valo player :DD
2022-01-19 20:09
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#150
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Finland 5way
Do you know the difference between team that's full finnish and a team that's international with 1-2 finnish players? If not then please take off your Finland-glasses
2022-01-19 20:14
2 replies
naww I'm keeping them on. finnish valo scene = bestest valo scene
2022-01-19 20:15
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#152
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Finland 5way
lmao
2022-01-19 20:16
Nice, but who cars?
2022-01-19 17:24
1 reply
Finland cars🚗
2022-01-19 17:25
#136
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Denmark Lucas3709
Valorant=Finished*
2022-01-19 18:27
Call of Duty = NA 💪💪💪
2022-01-18 22:23
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True, but there’s only 2 regions in CoD lmao
2022-01-18 22:32
#83
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Russia M1shV4T
LoL CIS when?
2022-01-18 22:35
#108
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Seychelles renatorib
R6 = br
2022-01-19 14:50
Only russians play dota though xd that's like saying Sweden top 1 Floorball
2022-01-19 17:55
Look at the HLTV top 20, 7/10 players are CIS. And another plays for a CIS team
2022-01-18 20:52
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#18
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Russia SoloN7
Recently, Putin said that he wants to make eSports a national sport, many universities in the country already have teams recruiting talented players.
2022-01-18 21:02
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he said a lot of things dude
2022-01-18 21:09
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#29
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Russia SoloN7
Not really. It must be admitted that he knows how to keep his promises, no matter what anyone says
2022-01-18 21:10
4 replies
I would rather trust the astralis ceo than Puting mate
2022-01-18 21:16
#42
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Denmark Polakva
2022-01-18 21:23
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#48
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Russia SoloN7
Yes, this is one of the most memorable phrases. I agree that he violated his words here, but it was a forced measure and believe me, he realized many promises, it’s just that failures are remembered much longer ...
2022-01-18 21:28
+15 rub Kremlin bot Ebanie osli
2022-01-19 12:37
look at the top 10 instead
2022-01-19 14:43
1 reply
I meant top 10 my b
2022-01-19 17:17
Ukraine/Latvia/kazakhstan isn't cis.
2022-01-19 19:24
1 reply
In CS Ukraine and Kazakhstan are So stop trying to bully me for my geography just because I'm American thank you
2022-01-19 19:30
I mean, Denmark has 4 teams in the top 20 and they are only 1 smallish country.
2022-01-18 20:53
3 replies
true. But 3 cis teams(vp, navi and gambit) won most of the events this year
2022-01-18 20:54
2-3% of the playerbase vs like 25% and still 4 teams + so many players on international teams is pretty impressive But most of my fellow countrymen are tryhard nerds, so it does make sense
2022-01-18 22:56
1 reply
Denmark top 1 csgo country no doubt
2022-01-19 20:17
#5
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Europe JohnnyPayn
go play fucking matchmaking it feels like 90% of the community is bloody cis
2022-01-18 20:54
10 replies
because there is fucking money in CS now... selling skins, accounts, cheats... A big fucking MONEY GRAB, so all these CIS scum is everywhere now.... CIS region is simply corrupt as hell.. cheating is a way of life for them.. cs is fucking dead with all these scum now roaming everywhere selling accounts, skins and cheats
2022-01-18 21:43
9 replies
*sweats in Chinese rare knives hoarders*
2022-01-18 22:26
#84
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Europe JohnnyPayn
couldnt give less of a shit about skins but agreed on the cheats can't play a single matchmaking game vs ruskis without them starting to hack when they lose or they get rekt too hard
2022-01-18 22:42
2 replies
csgostats.gg/vac-stats-2021 Russia actually tops with most banned accounts, but not by that much
2022-01-18 22:58
1 reply
no hackers on guangdong server confirmed
2022-01-19 20:26
ahahahahahahhahaha what a loser
2022-01-18 22:50
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a loser is some scum like you trying to scam people off their money.. you are no better than a fucking gypsy you fucking nerd virgin.. Come to my country and go make pizza delivery u fucking scum
2022-01-19 14:34
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imgur.com/a/9aQ9D06 russian can only deliver a pizza like this for your waifu. is that why you're such an offended loser?
2022-01-19 17:39
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waifu? go watch your anime u fucking weak incel I would make u my bitch if you ever dare to leave ur fucking room u fucking weak pathetic loser. better hope u will not get enlisted in putins army hahaha fucking dog
2022-01-19 17:42
1 reply
Let's do a video call to look at each other? huh?
2022-01-19 17:44
don't we count bulgaria in cis?
2022-01-18 20:54
13 replies
is it because...
2022-01-18 20:55
2 replies
it's only based on the fact v1c7or looks like a russian gopnik.
2022-01-18 21:02
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kekw
2022-01-18 21:13
sweden education best education
2022-01-18 20:55
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i was just assuming since the cyrilic alphabet originates from bulgaria. That it would make sense for them to be included in cis. This is ofc the cyrillic in russian speaking countries. Not greece
2022-01-18 21:01
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well, that's a good point actually, but going by this logic a lot of slavic countries can be considered CIS, which is wrong. CIS in esports = every former USSR country, CIS in general is different, like in CS Ukraine is CIS, when IRL they left CIS, for example
2022-01-18 21:06
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#54
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Europe Nictake
So are baltics CIS too in esports?
2022-01-18 21:40
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well, yekindar is playimg with CIS team and speaks russian properly, whereas ropz and broky are playing EU. it's hard to say exactly where the border between CIS and EU Baltic players lies. I would myself classify it as EU
2022-01-18 21:57
someone like yekindar or r0b3n can be considered CIS
2022-01-18 22:12
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Russia bult0
russian speaking players can be considered cis, guardian and yekindar are prime examples
2022-01-19 14:27
I mean, this cs logic is dumb. Yes, Ukraine was still CIS time ago (2014/2017), but they should change it. Like valorant did.
2022-01-18 22:22
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#76
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Czech Republic Dooscha
why? Their scenes are clearly connected
2022-01-18 22:28
"Yes, Ukraine was still CIS time ago (2014/2017)," They were not if u are talking about in real life situation.
2022-01-19 19:26
Should be in the top 30 when the region has a lot of support behind it rn, europe in general.
2022-01-18 20:55
The rest of the world moved to the better game
2022-01-18 20:55
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#15
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Which is?
2022-01-18 20:56
10 replies
Valorant pew pew Heal me Jett
2022-01-18 21:03
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#21
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Heal me Jett???? Do you even have 2 digit iq?
2022-01-18 21:04
5 replies
#35
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France Carrotaboy
Omfg I can’t even tell if you are baiting or not
2022-01-18 21:16
Haha, is it Sage? The one who heals?
2022-01-18 21:23
2 replies
#46
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Supposed to be yes, that is why I’m so confused
2022-01-18 21:26
1 reply
There’s a video where a guy basically shouts at a Jett for not healing or reviving him, which is where the “Heal me Jett” comes from.
2022-01-19 14:22
It’s a meme
2022-01-18 22:08
CSGO 2, currently in beta version
2022-01-18 21:23
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#47
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Good, I’m ok with waiting. But plz make it faster rather than slower
2022-01-18 21:26
1 reply
eye can only see 2fps so valve framelocked csgo 2
2022-01-19 20:28
#13
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CIS ateezy
8 outta 10 in top10, so yeah
2022-01-18 20:56
5 replies
4/10
2022-01-18 21:05
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#28
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CIS ateezy
when it comes to CS GO, Ukraine, Latvia and 13 more countries- all of them are CIS. And you miscounted even if you exclude Latvian and ukrainian players- actually 5/10 without them
2022-01-18 21:09
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Entropiq, Gambit, NAVI, VP Or I don't understand
2022-01-18 22:12
1 reply
I think he was counting players
2022-01-18 22:22
Ohhh you're counting players... Then yes, CIS has had a good year
2022-01-18 22:47
superior genes
2022-01-18 21:08
we are poor and have nothing to do than play video games 24/7
2022-01-18 21:14
1 reply
#57
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Australia rationale
Yeah, true.
2022-01-18 21:46
Life there is generally sad and boring, people are middle class and play games to forget their sorrows
2022-01-18 21:16
EU still better.. Top 10 - 5 teams Top 20 - 14 teams Top 30 - 20 teams
2022-01-18 21:18
#45
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Iceland iPhone))))
I wish I was european because I want to see my 30s
2022-01-18 21:25
1 reply
#62
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Dude you got hope, I think russian average life span is at least 50 years, (if you're man that is)
2022-01-18 22:03
Esport and p0rn are their two big exports
2022-01-18 22:00
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#80
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Australia thisba!tes
Pœrn is international thing, thø
2022-01-18 22:32
Right now, yes.
2022-01-18 22:06
It was always the strongest region in esports tbh
2022-01-18 22:07
3 replies
asia? Literally any game that gets picked up majorly by the asian region, gets dominated by them
2022-01-18 22:54
2 replies
Makes sense when something like 66% of the world population lives in Asia.
2022-01-19 14:25
1 reply
That is Why CIS are ruling ‘’EU’’ esport
2022-01-19 17:24
eu ded region
2022-01-18 22:13
#67
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CIS elefiveS
CIS is love, CIS is life
2022-01-18 22:10
#71
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San Marino Loyuu
19 european teams in top30
2022-01-18 22:19
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#77
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Australia thisba!tes
CIS is also europe, so we have 26 european teams in top 30
2022-01-18 22:31
1 reply
30 teams in the top 30 are from planet earth 😎
2022-01-18 22:49
#81
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Seychelles Ayane
cis is european i think
2022-01-18 22:33
I think the biggest problem EU is having right now, is that a lot of really good players are scattered across so many international teams, with 1-3 really good players and 2-3 players that are dogshit... You see how many danish players are on top 30 teams? Considering the danish population only contributes to like 2% of the playerbase, i think we're still doing good. Same with other countries ( CIS are only playing with CIS, probably due to the strong language barrier ) The biggest problem in EU as of now, is that nobody has figured out to actually make an international roster work, until then... I don't think we'll see EU on top again. Maybe G2 or Vitality can do it idk
2022-01-18 22:59
games have always been a big hobby here. imagine you have lans in every district of Moscow several times a week and you get easy money, if you too young, its fun.
2022-01-18 23:12
do you count how mane european teams in top 30? :)
2022-01-19 14:24
#98
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Brazil ImReverx
2022-01-19 14:26
#100
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China RADNIKEY
Same as Denmark a few years ago
2022-01-19 14:28
#106
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Russia mshkoda
Europe and CIS, only two strong regions now
2022-01-19 14:46
CSGO = MixTeams? 6 Teams in Top 30
2022-01-19 14:49
#109
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Russia WiHuu
Ez katka
2022-01-19 14:55
#117
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Canada sentrox
It's how CSGO go's. You'll go for a stint of time that CIS is on top of the game, then down the road, those teams that were on top, fall off, and then Europe moves to the top. And then, once very rarely. NA CS moves its way up there for a short period.
2022-01-19 17:24
#127
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Trinidad and Tobago r41
nope eu is wayyyy better
2022-01-19 17:44
bit what are the other 24🤔
2022-01-19 17:46
#129
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Moldova nutel
8 cis players in top 10
2022-01-19 17:49
not so unexpected when CIS only plays like 3 games (val, some moba and cs) because those are the only ones that their potato pcs can run then if they're really good they'll starve themselves for 3 months to be able to get a good pc that can run cs at 300+ fps so they can compete
2022-01-19 19:29
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