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1. dev1ce, dupreeh, gla1ve, xyp9x and magisk (3 majors, 13 big lan event trophies, 4 big lan event 2nd places, 9 big event top 4s, 3 big online trophies, 2 big online 2nd places.).
2. olofmeister, jw, flusha, krimz and pronax (2 major titles, 1 big lan trophy, 11 other lan trophies, 5 lan 2nd places, 7 lan top 4s). would've lasted longer if the lineup stayed together. Sure dennis brought short term success but it led to the eventual collapse
3. GeT_RiGhT, F0rest, xizt, friberg and fifflaren (1 major, 4 big lan trophies, 2 major grand finals, 14 smaller lan trophies, 5 lan grand finals). really tight but they narrowly lost due to smaller competition.
4. Fallen, fer, coldzera, taco and fnx(2 major titles, 1 big lan event trophy, 5 big lan events grand finals, 4 big lan event top 4s). not an era but fantastic team nontheless.
5. S1mple, electronic, b1t, perfecto, boombl4 (1 major, 3 big lan trophies, 3 big online trophies, 2 big online trophies). probably passing the lg/sk squad soon. Depends on how long the big spenders take to catch up.
6. nitr0, elige, naf, twistzz and stewie2k (7 big event lan titles , 1 big event lan 2nd place, 2 smaller lan 2nd places, 1 big event lan top 4). shame astralis went on vacation and didn't come back in relevant form until the major.
7. karrigan, NiKo, rain, olofmeister, guardian (4 big event lan trophies, 4 big event lan 2nd places including a major grand final, 2 big event lan 3-4th). imagine if they won those 4 grand finals they really should've.
8. hobbit, sh1ro, ax1le, nafany and interz (5 big online trophies, 2 smaller online trophies, 3 big online finals, 1 online grand final and 1 major top 4). shame they never truly showed up on lan.
9. zywoo, shox, apEX, rpk, nivera and misutaa (2 big online trophies, 1st in the fall blast groups, 4 big online 2nd places and 2 big online tournament top 4s). Shame this roster broke apart so fast. kyojin was such a massive downgrade
10. kennys, shox, nbk, apEX, bodyy - 2 big event lan trophies, 1 other lan trophy and 1 big event top 3. I'm putting them here because honestly, they were mad underachievers for the performances they put up. They always beat sk and put up a great fight against any other opponents but kept underachieving despite good overall showings. similar to karrigan's mousesports.
[honourable mentions] - virtus.pro - probably should be the number 10 tbh, karrigan's mouz, envy/ldlc of shox, happy, kioshima, nbk and smithzz
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Fair list honestly, a bit of swedish bias seeping through but you know
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swedes won a lot more so makes sense
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name checks out XD
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doesn;t change the fact that they dominated the first few years of csgo
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not saying otherwise :DD
I don't think so, in the early days cs was completely dominated by swedes so the list makes sense.
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lmaoo
hahah, very rare indeed to see a thread were one's opinion is reasoned.
ok current navi being #5 is just ridiculous, its really likely they will deserve that spot soon but they just don't deserve it yet. Also IMO gambit just really don't belong here... if they win some more events then sure but all they did is win 50% of the online events and then flop when lan came back
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+1 envy, ldlc and vp before navi and gambit. but navi should be somewhere on the list, one more major and they are top2/3 teams of all time.
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man, it seems like the gold vp lineup was 20 years ago, sad
i think 2015 envy should be top 6-7
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It's my favourite lineup but it only won a few events and had a small period of being really good. It collapsed quickly afterwards
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Gambit and vitality were more consistent in a more competitive era.
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VP finished 1st, 5th-8th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th-8th, 5th-8th, 3rd, 2nd, 4th, in consecutive majors, and they been to every major that was played when the Golden Five played for VP. That’s 7/10 times they at least made the semifinals of a Major over that period. And that’s just their achievements at Majors. And all of those placements occurred during the time of OG NiP, both versions of Fnatic, VeryGames, Envy, near the end, Astralis and Liquid. To put Vitality, an actually very inconsistent team, and Gambit, a team that’s only existed for a year, above the likes of VP seems crazy to me.
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I was referring to envy there. I have already acknowledged vp a number of times already
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Over whom exactly? Only vp makes sense to me
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Tried to sneak in gambit hmm?
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C9 is just stupid and you know it bro. G2>envy. Yeah polish vp over g2 I guess.
no roster with TARIK
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Tarik content goat
no vp T_T but good list
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Tell me one specific titan roster that was consistently good/won a lot. Same with envy. Verygames was briefly number 1 in a far weaker climate
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i think the old LG/SK lineup should be in third or second
It still hurts thinking about Faze and those losses
actually Vitality is nowhere top in „top rosters” ranking,every lineup on this list is a real deal, very well working teams with stars and personalities. Astralis never was a one man army, neither SK, Fnatic, NIP and nor s1mple’s NaVi, and Vitality is, its one hypercarry zywoo and 4 guys who struggle to put up a 1.00+ rating, futhermore, the Vitality lineup is making roster changes atleast two times per year. There is completely no way to sneak Vitality into this ranking
Don't know if pre-2016 teams would stand a chance against tier 2 today
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Not bad list
But there are no Cloud9 (major roster), mouz 2018, LDLC 2014, Polish VP, Envy 2015; and Vitality are too high
+1 Not sure about Vitality, replace with classic VP, but very nice and informed list men
1. Astralis 2018-2021 (device, dupreeh, Xyp9x, Magisk and gla1ve)
2. fnatic 2014-2015 (olofmeister, flusha, KRIMZ, JW and pronax)
3. Natus Vincere 2021-present (s1mple, electronic, B1T, Perfecto and Boombl4)
4. NiP 2012-2014 (GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, Xizt, friberg and fifflaren)
5. LG/SK 2015-2016 (FalleN, fer coldzera, fnx and TACO)
6. Virtus.pro 2013-2018 (Snax, NEO, TaZ, pashaBiceps and byali)
7. LDLC/EnVyUs 2014-2015 (Happy, shox, NBK-, SmithZz and kioShiMa)
8. Liquid 2019-2020 (EliGe, Twistzz, NAF, Stewie2k and nitr0)
9. Astralis 2016-2018 (device, dupreeh, Xyp9x, gla1ve and Kjaerbye)
10. FaZe 2017-2018 (NiKo, rain, GuardiaN, karrigan, olofmeister)
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Only the first 3 were the same lineup. The following two were with maikelele and allu respectively
Astralis
Fnatic 2015
Nip 2014
Lg
Liquid 2019
Navi current
Fnatic with Dennis
Faze clan in 2017 18
Astralis with kjaerbye
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Sk with boltz
Sk with felps
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