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NO WAAAAAAAY HLTV NO WAAAAY
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Sweden Average_DMR_Enjoyer 
HOW IS SH1RO #4 im shocked.
2022-01-19 20:01
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LETS FKN GO
2022-01-19 20:02
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#39
apEX | 
Russia mlsha
Win k23 first
2022-01-19 20:08
24 replies
Start by winning a major
2022-01-19 20:10
23 replies
Astralis_0_Cologne
2022-01-19 20:11
20 replies
s0mple_0_Tournament_wins_in_South_America s0mple_0_ECS
2022-01-19 20:13
19 replies
Astralis_0_wins_in_Copenhagen_even_with_crowd_cheaters hahahahahahahahahahha
2022-01-19 20:15
18 replies
Lmfao you conveniently forgot about this, I guess hltv.org/events/3376/esl-pro-league-seas..
2022-01-19 20:17
14 replies
Odense = Copenhagen? OK dev0ce
2022-01-19 20:18
13 replies
It's literaly an hour drive, basically a sub-urb of Copenhagen + when have fucking cities became relevant in cs + your "goat" will have close to the feeling of greatness to win a grand slam on home turf
2022-01-19 20:20
12 replies
Mad cuz 0 wins in Copenhagen?
2022-01-19 20:23
8 replies
S0mple 0 ESEA cash cups deko 2
2022-01-19 20:32
1 reply
#117
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Czech Republic WysTaaN
Thats fun one actually
2022-01-21 15:59
mad cuz s0mple 0 moscow wins?
2022-01-19 20:35
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#116
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Czech Republic WysTaaN
He is not even russian. Expected take like this from Dev40%ce fanboi
2022-01-21 15:56
3 replies
I consider Ukraine part of Russia
2022-01-21 16:28
2 replies
just like you consider Odense part of Copenhagen while it is on a whole other island LUL
2022-01-21 16:36
1 reply
I consider Ukraine part of Russia for political reasons, not geographical reasons
2022-01-21 16:43
2022-01-21 16:03
hour drive from Copenhagen is literally either Sweden or Germany, if you drive for an hour you are past the whole country because its so small hahaha
2022-01-21 16:03
2 replies
Sometimes it's better to be small
2022-01-21 16:28
#140
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Denmark Xipingu
You won't be in Germany after one hour of driving from Copenhagen.
2022-01-21 16:37
Grand slam on home btw
2022-01-19 20:17
1 reply
fluke and only bcz of crowd cheaters hahaha 0 integrity
2022-01-19 20:18
#138
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Denmark Xipingu
Who cares, Copenhagen is basically Sweden anyway, I will not recognize it as relevant. Odense on the other hand <3
2022-01-21 16:37
nt apEX (his flair) has a major
2022-01-19 20:24
russian flag, he literally just won it
2022-01-21 16:01
Exactly my reaction. Letss Fuckinngggg GOOOOOOO NIKO!!!!!!!!!!!!
2022-01-19 20:11
#131
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Trinidad and Tobago r41
nice name hahahhaha
2022-01-21 16:21
HAHAHAHAHA WTF
2022-01-19 20:02
3 replies
#64
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Sweden crittaN
All those numbers put him well above everyone else on the list so far, but there were a few reasons why he didn't make it higher. Firstly, although he had arguably the second highest floor out of all players, his peaks weren't as impressive in comparison to the other candidates for top 3, with two of his MVPs coming at medium-sized events and even his IEM Katowice MVP being slightly less impressive than other candidates' best events. That was in large part due to the second reason, which was a drop-off in his performance when it came to Big matches and top opposition. While he was still one of the world's best in the Big matches, ranking 4th with a 1.18 rating, it was a noticeable drop from his 1.27 rating in all the other matches, as was the drop to a 1.15 rating against top 5 opposition, which was still joint-4th highest, but not enough compared to the very best. Lastly, while he did affect the game in a plethora of ways, he didn't put up as much direct impact that led to won rounds in comparison to the other candidates (for example, ranking 3rd in his own team when it comes to average kills in round wins).
2022-01-19 20:13
2 replies
i know #29 was just first reaction because hltv usually looks at ratings and mvps a lot so I didn't expect it to be sh1ro
2022-01-19 20:15
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#73
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Sweden crittaN
+1
2022-01-19 20:16
worst top 20 rankings in the last 5 years and im a NiKo fan.
2022-01-19 20:02
57 replies
#5
NiKo | 
Croatia Chongy
Plastic fan
2022-01-19 20:02
38 replies
how so, its true that NiKo is better individually and its not even close but the list is usually based on stats + NiKo wasn't a top 5 player for the first 6 months of 2021.
2022-01-19 20:03
37 replies
#26
NiKo | 
Croatia Chongy
Low dpr farmer and awp abuser and baiter not better than god NiKo
2022-01-19 20:06
36 replies
+1 but it makes no sense since NiKo wasn't a top 5/4 player in the first half of 2021.
2022-01-19 20:06
33 replies
Was b1t a top 9 player before LAN ? No, he wasn't even top 20. Elec wasn't even top 10 before LAN but got top 6. I'm glad HLTV values LAN performance above online.
2022-01-19 20:08
26 replies
#55
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CIS ateezy
after lan he was top5 player, but they placed him 8-9 which is fair unlike niko's top3 despite not winning a shit and sucking even in r2.0
2022-01-19 20:11
10 replies
NiKo never sucked. Even before LAN he was a top 6 player behind ax1le and hobbit. NiKo has been on fire for 6 months after the player break with a 1.3 rating and 1.5 impact rating which shot him up top 3, nothing unreasonable. And b1t was never top 5, infalted stats due to playing in the best team in the world. He rarely ever has above 20 kills but dies a little because navi just dominates. Just watch b1ts rating drop as soon as navi start to underperform.
2022-01-19 20:14
9 replies
#81
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CIS ateezy
nice excuses btw. b1t stepped up hugely and if there was another player instead of him, he would suck. niko was top6 while winning 0 events whereas other top10 players won at least 1 event. But as he solo carried second half, ngl it would be fair to give him top4 spot but no more
2022-01-19 20:22
8 replies
"Firstly, although he had arguably the second highest floor out of all players, his peaks weren't as impressive in comparison to the other candidates for top 3, with two of his MVPs coming at medium-sized events and even his IEM Katowice MVP being slightly less impressive than other candidates' best events. That was in large part due to the second reason, which was a drop-off in his performance when it came to Big matches and top opposition. While he was still one of the world's best in the Big matches, ranking 4th with a 1.18 rating, it was a noticeable drop from his 1.27 rating in all the other matches, as was the drop to a 1.15 rating against top 5 opposition, which was still joint-4th highest, but not enough compared to the very best. Lastly, while he did affect the game in a plethora of ways, he didn't put up as much direct impact that led to won rounds in comparison to the other candidates (for example, ranking 3rd in his own team when it comes to average kills in round wins)." This says enough really.
2022-01-19 20:23
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#89
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CIS ateezy
Do u even understand that they just pick the most comfortable statistic figure as excuses in order not to seem biased?
2022-01-19 20:26
6 replies
What are you even talking about ? What comfortable statistics, literally says there that he drops off in perfromance in big matches. What's the problem ?
2022-01-19 20:28
3 replies
#96
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CIS ateezy
Imagine if niko was top4: do you what would they write? ikr, it will be smth like he wasn't doing well in first half of the year, no trophies, not consistent enough and only 2 finals which they lost. It doesn't matter what they write actually- they are just cherry picking
2022-01-19 20:31
2 replies
No one is cherry picking. Sh1ro fell of in important matches and wasn't even the best in his team in certain stats.
2022-01-19 20:32
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#102
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CIS ateezy
so u r saying that missing in important single matches is worse than being missing on important events?
2022-01-19 20:34
There is no bias, dpr farmer is worse
2022-01-19 20:36
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#109
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CIS ateezy
it is up to you which playstyle u prefer but all we know is overall sh1ro was better
2022-01-19 20:38
#57
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CIS ateezy
and elec got top7 which is fair enough
2022-01-19 20:12
14 replies
Elec's top 7 was boosted due to LAN perfomance, same as NiKo.
2022-01-19 20:15
13 replies
#87
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CIS ateezy
it would be boosted if he got top5, but he was better than yekindar/b1t and jame- so noone was robbed then. But today the biggest robbery happened
2022-01-19 20:25
12 replies
Read the paragraph I replied to you. You will get your answer.
2022-01-19 20:26
11 replies
#91
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CIS ateezy
everyone knows that HLTV crapped their assholes out today, and only delusional individuals cannot admit it, sorry btw nice nickname(not sarcasm)
2022-01-19 20:28
10 replies
The only delusional individuals I have seen have russian flags. The majority seems to agree with NiKo being top 3 so I don't know. Sh1ro had a better year but NiKo is a better player.
2022-01-19 20:30
9 replies
#98
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CIS ateezy
noone even throws a doubt in terms of individual skill, but hltv is (or was) about stats and accolades as well as individual awards
2022-01-19 20:32
8 replies
NiKo has better stats tho. Big events, LAN, top 5 and top 10 rating, kast, kpr it's all in favour of NiKo.
2022-01-19 20:34
5 replies
#108
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CIS ateezy
oh, u learnt how to cherry pick, but i can also highlight aspects where sh1ro was by far the best (clutches, % of opening duels won, dpr, overall r2.0, top50 r2.0, top30 r2.0, top20 r2.0 and btw niko has lower kast than sh1ro
2022-01-19 20:37
4 replies
I didn't cherry pick shit, you cherry picked. Tell me the bullshit stats you said here are more important than the onse I presented ?
2022-01-19 20:39
3 replies
#112
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CIS ateezy
yes, clutches are more important any day of the week but impact doesn't include it, and yes top30 and top20 r2.0 are more representable than top5 and top10. in kpr there isn't huge gap between them, and the only stats where niko was better is adr
2022-01-19 20:42
2 replies
Clutches are not important. NiKo spent majority of the year entry fragging with jackz which leads to him dying early, he is not in position to clutch while sh1ro's job, according to naffany, was for him to survive and clutch, you can't compare that.
2022-01-19 20:44
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#114
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CIS ateezy
if u r denying the fact that clutches are important, there's no point in the further discussion. But I respect you for not baiting and trying to insult me personally while arguing. GL
2022-01-19 20:47
Kast isn't, but impact is*
2022-01-19 20:35
Clutches are important. What I'm saying is that it's not a fair comparison. That's like comparing adr. NiKo will naturaly have a higher adr cuz he is a rifler, it's just not a fair comparison. Edit: im on my phone so I cant see comments far away so i had to move it a bit to the left
2022-01-19 20:51
#40
NiKo | 
Croatia Chongy
Yes he was you are delusional
2022-01-19 20:08
2 replies
he wasn't, you can check the games and stats for yourself, it was until flashpoint/iem cologne where he started doing insanely good and then peaked in the major.
2022-01-19 20:09
1 reply
#45
NiKo | 
Croatia Chongy
Bro i am baiting you so hard just stop replying
2022-01-19 20:10
2nd LAN half > 1st online half
2022-01-19 20:09
2 replies
look i would have agreed with this if only hobbit and ax1le were lower than electronic, but since they aren't, i don't see a logic behind this.
2022-01-19 20:10
1 reply
yeah, this year top20 kinda destroys its own logic, but I definitely like their latest decision of NiKo as top3. At least something can fix this list
2022-01-19 20:13
My man couldnt be any right
2022-01-19 20:11
literally everything checks out stfu
2022-01-21 16:03
Fake fan, 0/8 NiKo had better rating everywhere, except overall))))))
2022-01-19 20:03
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2022-01-19 20:04
5 replies
0/8 #9
2022-01-19 20:04
4 replies
can't accept facts apparently.
2022-01-19 20:05
3 replies
Well, if you would've watched some G2 games live and, or demos you would agree with me)))))))
2022-01-19 20:05
2 replies
never said he wasn't better, read my previous comment again.
2022-01-19 20:06
1 reply
NiKo was a top player the first 6 months, though... He always had 1+ rating, always made the matches intense, close)
2022-01-19 20:08
+1 really weird rankings
2022-01-19 20:04
How do you feel getting roasted! lmao
2022-01-19 20:07
6 replies
delusional s1mple fangirl still crying.
2022-01-19 20:08
5 replies
Delusion and crying is all you ch0ko fancasuals are! lmao
2022-01-19 20:09
4 replies
s1mple fangirl still crying zzzzzz
2022-01-19 20:09
3 replies
Rent free buddy, this is again gonna end with you running off to your mommy with tears coming down your cheeks ch0ko fanclown. :D
2022-01-19 20:11
2 replies
keep crying s1mple fangirl.
2022-01-19 20:12
1 reply
2022-01-19 20:13
2 replies
shouldn't electronic be higher than both ax1le and hobbit if LAN mattered that much ?
2022-01-19 20:13
1 reply
#66
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France HoxjE
i agree with that
2022-01-19 20:13
#4
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
This is a massive shock ngl
2022-01-19 20:02
Niko better
2022-01-19 20:02
4 replies
+1
2022-01-19 20:03
+1
2022-01-19 20:03
+1
2022-01-19 20:05
#143
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Serbia eliiiiii_
+1
2022-01-21 16:44
At least can fix this ranking
2022-01-19 20:03
#12
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Ukraine d3adLY
ahhhhhha
2022-01-19 20:03
I'm actually a fan of NiKo but what are you fucking doing HLTV. You sucks this year so bad.
2022-01-19 20:03
Maybe now people will stop complaining about tier 2/3 mvps
2022-01-19 20:03
lmao deserved , & also niko deserve #3 spot
2022-01-19 20:03
3 replies
+1 people just look at stats but niko is a way better player having these stats as a rifler and on a team that isn't good enough didn't expect hltv to do that tho since sh1ro has better rating and mvps, kinda based ranking
2022-01-19 20:10
2 replies
same , but yea niko deserve it for sure , he did everything a pro player can do at the most important events, so niko #3
2022-01-19 20:07
1 reply
#69
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CIS ateezy
and still won nothing
2022-01-19 20:15
lets goo!!!
2022-01-19 20:04
#22
ropz | 
North America jcoN
why are people mad? Gambit owned the first half of 2021...
2022-01-19 20:05
Another retarded ranking like the one from 2019 where Simple was 2nd lmao. All these guys who Picked Niko over Shiro are complete clowns!!! Guy shit the bed for half a year and just because he performed well in last 5 or 6 months and still didnt win anything gets a 3rd! Can you believe that?
2022-01-19 20:05
5 replies
Flag
2022-01-19 20:06
1 reply
Fake Flag Glory hunter ;)
2022-01-19 20:07
It just fucking stupid, holy cow Sh1ro should've been #3 a 100%
2022-01-19 20:11
2 replies
Never gonna watch these washed up noobs podcast ever again...
2022-01-19 20:13
1 reply
did u even compare their stats head2head? niko has much better stats
2022-01-21 16:13
#27
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Serbia Aco_
cuz niko better
2022-01-19 20:06
Well, fcking deserved!!!!
2022-01-19 20:06
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2022-01-19 20:08
daylight robbery, wtfffffff
2022-01-19 20:11
lol
2022-01-19 20:13
#59
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Poland kola5410
what in fuck's name is that?
2022-01-19 20:13
#68
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
im not tbh, only reason he would be higher is mvp's and tournament wins
2022-01-19 20:14
1 reply
#128
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Europe Zwenix
Which is dumb to think this could be the deciding factor in individual ranking
2022-01-21 16:15
#74
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Portugal MrPato
I mean, I do think NiKo deserves to be Top3, despite him not winning anything this past year. Cuz if you look at G2, that’s pretty much NiKo Esports, for someone to be able to push a team to grand finals and high final standings at Tier1 events by his own, that just shows how good he is.
2022-01-19 20:16
Haha bot gambots
2022-01-19 20:23
NiKo deserves it, but this is really the weirdest Top20 in a long time
2022-01-19 20:29
1 reply
#94
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Sweden Smauxx
Probably because of LAN and Online events. With 1 Major.
2022-01-19 20:30
HAHAHAHA
2022-01-19 20:30
Their sponsorship doesn't come from the CIS region xD
2022-01-19 20:34
im shocked
2022-01-19 20:34
calm down gambit fans its just onliner freakin sh0ro why so mad go cry to some1 other than people on hltv
2022-01-19 20:42
1 reply
calm down g2 fans its just onliner freakin ch0k0 why so mad go cry to some1 other than people on hltv
2022-01-21 16:11
baiter
2022-01-21 16:05
didnt deserve 4th, shiro was obv top 3 but apparently hltv doesnt care about stats or wins, they just care about popularity or something... Shiro had better stats through the whole year except for a few random months. And shiro won way way more tournaments than niko, plus shiro had 3 mvps... Like wtf hltv big steal right here.
2022-01-21 16:10
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#126
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World Canvinus
Just like last year, nothing new.
2022-01-21 16:14
1. open 2 tabs w/ niko and shiro stats 2. select last 12 months filter 3. check every match filter (lan,online,big events, majors) 4. here u go, now u know why niko is #3
2022-01-21 16:20
4 replies
thats literally what i did
2022-01-21 16:22
3 replies
and? its very clear that niko has better stats. only online sh1ro has 0.07 advantage, meanwhile niko has 0.06 advantage on LAN, 0.12 at BIG events and 0.15 on MAJORs. AND he has like twice the impact always
2022-01-21 16:24
2 replies
if you compare the stats each month of the whole year shiro is still better, since niko only popped off in the last few months
2022-01-21 16:33
1 reply
ok u r delusional, bye
2022-01-21 16:35
When you farm stats against t2 t3 teams, what you expect?
2022-01-21 16:15
#129
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China RADNIKEY
Hello Max
2022-01-21 16:16
#141
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Denmark Xipingu
If he's #4, he's #4. Deal with it.
2022-01-21 16:38
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