LETS FKN GO
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Start by winning a major
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Astralis_0_Cologne
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s0mple_0_Tournament_wins_in_South_America
s0mple_0_ECS
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Astralis_0_wins_in_Copenhagen_even_with_crowd_cheaters
hahahahahahahahahahha
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Lmfao you conveniently forgot about this, I guess hltv.org/events/3376/esl-pro-league-seas..
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Odense = Copenhagen? OK dev0ce
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It's literaly an hour drive, basically a sub-urb of Copenhagen + when have fucking cities became relevant in cs + your "goat" will have close to the feeling of greatness to win a grand slam on home turf
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Mad cuz 0 wins in Copenhagen?
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S0mple 0 ESEA cash cups deko 2
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mad cuz s0mple 0 moscow wins?
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I consider Ukraine part of Russia
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just like you consider Odense part of Copenhagen while it is on a whole other island LUL
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I consider Ukraine part of Russia for political reasons, not geographical reasons
hour drive from Copenhagen is literally either Sweden or Germany, if you drive for an hour you are past the whole country because its so small hahaha
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Sometimes it's better to be small
Grand slam on home btw
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fluke and only bcz of crowd cheaters hahaha 0 integrity
nt apEX (his flair) has a major
russian flag, he literally just won it
HAHAHAHAHA WTF
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All those numbers put him well above everyone else on the list so far, but there were a few reasons why he didn't make it higher. Firstly, although he had arguably the second highest floor out of all players, his peaks weren't as impressive in comparison to the other candidates for top 3, with two of his MVPs coming at medium-sized events and even his IEM Katowice MVP being slightly less impressive than other candidates' best events. That was in large part due to the second reason, which was a drop-off in his performance when it came to Big matches and top opposition. While he was still one of the world's best in the Big matches, ranking 4th with a 1.18 rating, it was a noticeable drop from his 1.27 rating in all the other matches, as was the drop to a 1.15 rating against top 5 opposition, which was still joint-4th highest, but not enough compared to the very best. Lastly, while he did affect the game in a plethora of ways, he didn't put up as much direct impact that led to won rounds in comparison to the other candidates (for example, ranking 3rd in his own team when it comes to average kills in round wins).
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i know #29
was just first reaction because hltv usually looks at ratings and mvps a lot so I didn't expect it to be sh1ro
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worst top 20 rankings in the last 5 years and im a NiKo fan.
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how so, its true that NiKo is better individually and its not even close but the list is usually based on stats + NiKo wasn't a top 5 player for the first 6 months of 2021.
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+1 but it makes no sense since NiKo wasn't a top 5/4 player in the first half of 2021.
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Was b1t a top 9 player before LAN ?
No, he wasn't even top 20.
Elec wasn't even top 10 before LAN but got top 6.
I'm glad HLTV values LAN performance above online.
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NiKo never sucked.
Even before LAN he was a top 6 player behind ax1le and hobbit.
NiKo has been on fire for 6 months after the player break with a 1.3 rating and 1.5 impact rating which shot him up top 3, nothing unreasonable.
And b1t was never top 5, infalted stats due to playing in the best team in the world. He rarely ever has above 20 kills but dies a little because navi just dominates.
Just watch b1ts rating drop as soon as navi start to underperform.
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"Firstly, although he had arguably the second highest floor out of all players, his peaks weren't as impressive in comparison to the other candidates for top 3, with two of his MVPs coming at medium-sized events and even his IEM Katowice MVP being slightly less impressive than other candidates' best events. That was in large part due to the second reason, which was a drop-off in his performance when it came to Big matches and top opposition. While he was still one of the world's best in the Big matches, ranking 4th with a 1.18 rating, it was a noticeable drop from his 1.27 rating in all the other matches, as was the drop to a 1.15 rating against top 5 opposition, which was still joint-4th highest, but not enough compared to the very best. Lastly, while he did affect the game in a plethora of ways, he didn't put up as much direct impact that led to won rounds in comparison to the other candidates (for example, ranking 3rd in his own team when it comes to average kills in round wins)."
This says enough really.
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What are you even talking about ?
What comfortable statistics, literally says there that he drops off in perfromance in big matches.
What's the problem ?
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No one is cherry picking.
Sh1ro fell of in important matches and wasn't even the best in his team in certain stats.
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There is no bias, dpr farmer is worse
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Elec's top 7 was boosted due to LAN perfomance, same as NiKo.
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Read the paragraph I replied to you.
You will get your answer.
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The only delusional individuals I have seen have russian flags.
The majority seems to agree with NiKo being top 3 so I don't know.
Sh1ro had a better year but NiKo is a better player.
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NiKo has better stats tho.
Big events, LAN, top 5 and top 10 rating, kast, kpr it's all in favour of NiKo.
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I didn't cherry pick shit, you cherry picked.
Tell me the bullshit stats you said here are more important than the onse I presented ?
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Clutches are not important.
NiKo spent majority of the year entry fragging with jackz which leads to him dying early, he is not in position to clutch while sh1ro's job, according to naffany, was for him to survive and clutch, you can't compare that.
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Kast isn't, but impact is*
Clutches are important. What I'm saying is that it's not a fair comparison.
That's like comparing adr.
NiKo will naturaly have a higher adr cuz he is a rifler, it's just not a fair comparison.
Edit: im on my phone so I cant see comments far away so i had to move it a bit to the left
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2nd LAN half > 1st online half
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look i would have agreed with this if only hobbit and ax1le were lower than electronic, but since they aren't, i don't see a logic behind this.
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yeah, this year top20 kinda destroys its own logic, but I definitely like their latest decision of NiKo as top3. At least something can fix this list
Fake fan, 0/8
NiKo had better rating everywhere, except overall))))))
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0/8
#9
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can't accept facts apparently.
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Well, if you would've watched some G2 games live and, or demos you would agree with me)))))))
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never said he wasn't better, read my previous comment again.
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NiKo was a top player the first 6 months, though...
He always had 1+ rating, always made the matches intense, close)
+1 really weird rankings
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delusional s1mple fangirl still crying.
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s1mple fangirl still crying zzzzzz
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shouldn't electronic be higher than both ax1le and hobbit if LAN mattered that much ?
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This is a massive shock ngl
Niko better
At least can fix this ranking
I'm actually a fan of NiKo but what are you fucking doing HLTV. You sucks this year so bad.
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+1 people just look at stats but niko is a way better player having these stats as a rifler and on a team that isn't good enough
didn't expect hltv to do that tho since sh1ro has better rating and mvps, kinda based ranking
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Another retarded ranking like the one from 2019 where Simple was 2nd lmao.
All these guys who Picked Niko over Shiro are complete clowns!!!
Guy shit the bed for half a year and just because he performed well in last 5 or 6 months and still didnt win anything gets a 3rd! Can you believe that?
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It just fucking stupid, holy cow
Sh1ro should've been #3 a 100%
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did u even compare their stats head2head? niko has much better stats
Well, fcking deserved!!!!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
daylight robbery, wtfffffff
lol
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I mean, I do think NiKo deserves to be Top3, despite him not winning anything this past year. Cuz if you look at G2, that’s pretty much NiKo Esports, for someone to be able to push a team to grand finals and high final standings at Tier1 events by his own, that just shows how good he is.
Haha bot gambots
NiKo deserves it, but this is really the weirdest Top20 in a long time
HAHAHAHA
im shocked
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baiter
didnt deserve 4th, shiro was obv top 3 but apparently hltv doesnt care about stats or wins, they just care about popularity or something...
Shiro had better stats through the whole year except for a few random months.
And shiro won way way more tournaments than niko, plus shiro had 3 mvps...
Like wtf hltv big steal right here.
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1. open 2 tabs w/ niko and shiro stats
2. select last 12 months filter
3. check every match filter (lan,online,big events, majors)
4. here u go, now u know why niko is #3
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and? its very clear that niko has better stats. only online sh1ro has 0.07 advantage, meanwhile niko has 0.06 advantage on LAN, 0.12 at BIG events and 0.15 on MAJORs. AND he has like twice the impact always
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ok u r delusional, bye
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