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Denmark kbye_ 
daily reminder that new faze > new g2
2022-01-21 15:58
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#1
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United States f1nessd
Why? I feel like g2 could have a higher peak although they still have jackz
2022-01-21 15:59
19 replies
#4
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Denmark kbye_
why? because no matter which tournament it is, choko will make sure g2 wont win by choking
2022-01-21 16:00
5 replies
like he made sure to fuck faze for 1 year straight lol
2022-01-21 16:04
4 replies
#21
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Argentina Joedash
1 year is too kind
2022-01-21 16:10
3 replies
lul he kept them relevant after that superteam. People expected something from Faze coz they had NiKo.
2022-01-21 16:18
2 replies
+1
2022-01-21 21:14
#115
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Argentina Joedash
I mean, if u kick ur IGL and have no plans of getting another one then for sure things won't go well. Of course Niko made the team somewhat relevant, but 2020 and 2019 were the worst years for FaZe. I barely watched the games since I knew they faze would lose and i was always right sadly
2022-01-21 21:47
if G2 replace jackz for yekindar ez major
2022-01-21 17:09
6 replies
facts
2022-01-21 17:25
#68
JACKZ | 
Croatia bert0
they can just as well remove hunter too, which leads to niko leaving as well.
2022-01-21 17:29
4 replies
jackz is just not that good as a player.
2022-01-21 18:41
3 replies
#94
JACKZ | 
Croatia bert0
he might not be, but hes great for his age + impacts players soo much off server
2022-01-21 20:21
2 replies
jackz is so selfless it's unbelievable and has a insane aim, only problem is sometimes his decision making
2022-01-21 21:16
1 reply
agreed
2022-01-21 22:22
#77
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United States Azaqa
No, they dont have a higher peak because they have jackz. Imagine if everyone on faze is playing good
2022-01-21 18:57
3 replies
But by that logic you can say 'imagine if everyone on G2 is playing good', which includes jackz. I think the peak for G2 will depend on m0nesy. If he can put up numbers, they should be better than Faze.
2022-01-21 21:02
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#134
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United States Azaqa
Jackz playing good is like 1.1 rating. Rain playing good is hard carry 35 kills. The peak is simply higher for faze, that doesnt mean theyll be consistent but they definitely have a way higher peak
2022-01-22 03:03
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By that metric, NiKo's peak is 1.5 rating on his own. hunter's peak is about equal to Twistzz I'd say. m0nesy's peak is probably higher than broky's, considering his mechanical skills, which are undeniable, Aleksib is individually stronger than karrigan and then you have rain who does make up for it. I'd put ropz's peak at about 1.35/1.4-ish.
2022-01-22 06:46
#112
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Norway thojo
G2 will prob have higher peaks, but also lower lows. FaZe has the advantage of a pre-existing structure, only need to implement Ropz into it, which probably wont be hard, considering I think both ropz and twistzz can be both very versetile players.
2022-01-21 21:29
Why are people hating on jackz? He is solid player
2022-01-21 22:08
#2
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Wales I_like_csgo
That is yet to be seen
2022-01-21 15:59
if rain is in form they could be so good but if rain will frag 10in every match then rip
2022-01-21 15:59
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#7
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Netherlands Hugedonger
basically it yeah.
2022-01-21 16:00
#67
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France possup
exactly
2022-01-21 17:25
#5
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Netherlands Hugedonger
I dig faze but hold your horses man. I still think they're a solid player short of a very good team. Maybe rain will surprise me this year, I don't know.
2022-01-21 16:00
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#88
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Canada JustLuke
+1 if they are able to upgrade rain for a player like frozen (possible) or like Yekindar (unlikely since he likes Jame) I would be completely sold. I think if rain finds his footing again they will be a good team but it depends on him
2022-01-21 19:25
Bu don't forget you are saying that the 4th best player on the team is rain. He may not be good enough to be a third star, but as a 4th player, you can definitely make things work. It's not like he doesn't have great games.
2022-01-21 21:04
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#136
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United States VRVegas
tru
2022-01-22 03:07
no ? Aleksib > karrigan NiKo >>>>>> twistzz Jackz =/> rain m0nesy (even unproven) > broky huNter </= ropz. XTQZZZ >>>>>>>>>>>> RobbaN
2022-01-21 16:02
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#13
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Netherlands Hugedonger
It has to function as a team. Seeing faze for the past years with NiKo in it they had all the firepower in the world but never functioned as a team. I hope G2 don't go the same way as it would be a tremendous waste of talent.
2022-01-21 16:02
11 replies
+1 but even the 2021/current faze isn't working either.
2022-01-21 16:03
2 replies
#27
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Argentina Joedash
How can current faze work if they didn't play a single game yet?
2022-01-21 16:12
1 reply
forgot to edit that*
2022-01-21 16:13
Lololo did you see faze all year? How was that functioning as a team? They also got smoked by G2 every time they played.
2022-01-21 16:06
4 replies
They functioned as a team, they just lacked firepower, always playing the top teams close(except Navi I guess).
2022-01-21 16:20
3 replies
They barely made it to the major on a miracle
2022-01-21 18:54
2 replies
yes because there were only 2 RMR, one of which they played with Coldzera so they basically went into the 2nd RMR without many points. Then they only lost 1 bo1 that they should have won and that fucked them over entirely. Also, it was not a miracle at all, they needed just one of the 4 underdogs to place last in playoffs, it was basically guaranteed and they won the bo3 matches that they were required to win to qualify
2022-01-21 18:56
1 reply
Well, it's not a reason to excuse, OG didn't even make to major only because they lost one bo1 match against Mad Lions.
2022-01-22 17:02
Lol, how tf FaZe is functional as the team? Did you see their T-sides in 2021? It was goddamn awful, dude.
2022-01-21 16:26
2 replies
Faze has unmatched firepower from all sides except Karrigan. and cs go is a game to kill and in faze now there are killers to spare.
2022-01-21 16:41
#137
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United States VRVegas
mostly because rain is having a hard time on entries
2022-01-22 03:09
#23
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Namibia HUrrik4N
This is the worst bait I've ever seen
2022-01-21 16:11
1 reply
not a bait.
2022-01-21 16:11
Karrigan >> Aleksi NiKo >>>>> Twistzz Jackz <<< rain m0nesy < broky HuNter- <<<< ropz XTQZZZ = RobbaN
2022-01-21 16:11
5 replies
0/8 but expected from user.
2022-01-21 16:12
ropz > hunter???????? are u dumb? Hunter 12th player of 2021 Ropz 18th. ropz isn't even better then baitF.
2022-01-21 16:51
3 replies
ropz 7th player of 2020 HuNter- 13th
2022-01-21 16:57
#59
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Norway KhT
maybe because G2 was better than mouz? We will see this year who will perform better or not. + ropz doesnt need another player to deliver like hunter do with jackz.
2022-01-21 17:13
1 reply
Ropz needs karrigan lmaoooooo
2022-01-21 22:41
Karrigan >> Aleksi NiKo >>>>> Twistzz Jackz < rain m0nesy =< broky HuNter- =< ropz XTQZZZ > RobbaN There fixed for ya
2022-01-21 16:22
3 replies
0/8.
2022-01-21 16:15
Based imo
2022-01-21 16:21
This. In what world is an unproven pug stomper better than top20 proven player?
2022-01-21 17:32
Aleksib > karrigan NiKo >>> twistzz Jackz < rain m0nesy = broky huNter < ropz. XTQZZZ >RobbaN
2022-01-21 16:25
2 replies
m0nesy futur top 5 player though.
2022-01-21 16:25
1 reply
true
2022-01-21 16:26
#80
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United States Azaqa
aleksib>karrigan on firepower, not as igl NiKo>>Twistzz Jackz<rain m0nesy<broky (for now) hunter<ropz
2022-01-21 18:58
I wonder how you are comparing here? You are just looking at role for role, kind off... You are comparing NiKo to Twistzz, while I would compare hunter to Twistzz in the first place. Second, you have no idea of m0nesy's skills in tier 1. They look good in the academy league, but top teams will be anti-stratting the shit out of awp'ers, so it remains to be seen. Third, are you comparing Aleksib and Karrigan on a fragging level, IGL level or a mix? If a mix, I'd put them even. Karrigan is simply a lot more experienced and has shown that he can bring teams to the top 3 consistently, while Aleksib so far only has had 1 team where he managed that. Though on an individual level, Aleksib is definitely better. If you are going to compare individuals, I would do it as follows, leaving out the IGL's. NiKo>ropz>Twistzz=hunter>broky>m0nesy?>rain>Jackz
2022-01-21 21:10
6 replies
NiKo>>ropz>>hunter>=twistzz>broky>m0nesy(?????)>rain>jackz>>>aleksib>karrigan
2022-01-21 21:18
5 replies
I can kind of vibe with that, but the reason I excluded both IGL's is because you would have to factor in a lot of things that can't just be explained with simple stats.
2022-01-21 21:20
4 replies
igl's is hard to rank but I would say karrigan has fell of a lot in the past year. Faze looked awful on tsides, were always blowing leads away and karrigan kept giving entries to the enemy team
2022-01-21 21:22
3 replies
But it's difficult to not think the players he had to work with were partly at fault. It's difficult to get anything going when you have washed-up olofmeister on your team. Now with ropz, it could definitely be different, but that remains to be seen. I'm just excited to see all these new teams in action really.
2022-01-21 21:24
2 replies
I just can't comprehend how robban is still there as a coach after all this time. He is good to travel with the team but they really need a better coach
2022-01-21 21:27
1 reply
I don't have much insight on him unfortunately. He must be doing something right if they want to keep him.
2022-01-21 21:28
#142
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Poland IG0R2115
Stopped reading at huNter </= ropz.
2022-01-22 14:27
daily reminder that ropz is overrated and m0nesy is outdoing him
2022-01-21 16:01
4 replies
based on what . im trying to have a decent debate
2022-01-21 19:22
3 replies
streets saying m0nesy is destroying everyone on bootcamp so im excited for blast next week
2022-01-21 19:23
2 replies
With a lot of AWP'ers, teams also need to learn how to play against them. They might not have answers immediately, but give it a tournament or two and an inexperienced awp'er can lose a lot of impact. Also: it's scrims. They probably aren't doing all they can to counter m0nesy either. That being said... It would be cool if m0nesy can come out swinging and just beat the whole field.
2022-01-21 21:13
even fnatic alex according to smooya drops 40 bombs in pracc . not a valid point brother saying that ropz is overrated ( he is proven to be a top 10 rifler in the world ) and overhyping m0nesy who didn't play a single t1 game lol .
2022-01-21 21:19
in what world lol
2022-01-21 16:01
1 reply
#114
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Romania DZthebest
lol worlds ?
2022-01-21 21:31
#10
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Kuwait seca34958
watch faze being really bad with ropz lol
2022-01-21 16:01
13 replies
#12
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Denmark kbye_
u watch faze beating the shit out of everyone in blast
2022-01-21 16:01
12 replies
#15
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Kuwait seca34958
reminder that faze has never won a bo3 against navi
2022-01-21 16:03
11 replies
#58
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Norway KhT
hahaahahahah 0/8
2022-01-21 17:11
9 replies
#61
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Kuwait seca34958
? the last time they won against Navi was a different core
2022-01-21 17:22
8 replies
#62
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Norway KhT
yes thats true I thought you were talking about their ALL time match past.
2022-01-21 17:23
1 reply
#63
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Kuwait seca34958
lol no, most top 20 teams have beaten navi at some point
2022-01-21 17:25
They only played twice against Na'Vi with the current core. Also a reminder that since those times Na'Vi and Faze played, Na'Vi has only lost 6 games (4 vs Gambit, 1 vs BIG, 1 vs Liquid). Oh... And G2 hasn't beaten Na'Vi either. Your argument doesn't mean much.
2022-01-21 21:17
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4 replies
Okay. I missed 2 games apparently. Don't know how I did that honestly. I still wouldn't call the line-ups without karrigan the core though. No IGL and both coldzera and olofmeister don't bring much. Then still... We are comparing Faze and G2 here. When is the last time G2 beat Na'Vi? If you want to give the argument that they haven't beaten Na'Vi in the past year as to say "Faze are bad", then the same argument goes for G2, doesn't it? Not only that, but apart from their series at Cologne, they always managed to at least get one close map in there, which I believe with the addition of ropz, can be turned into a won map. The argument "They didn't beat Na'Vi" is just a bad argument, because by that metric, only Gambit are actually good and the previous Liquid line-up and BIG are better than teams like Vitality, G2, Heroic etc.
2022-01-22 06:53
3 replies
#141
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Kuwait seca34958
ok listen, the thing I was replying to was "faze beating the shit out of everyone in blast" for which you have to beat Navi I don't care about G2, they were never mentioned and they are not expected to beat Navi anyways
2022-01-22 14:13
2 replies
Oh like that. I see now :)
2022-01-22 16:39
#145
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Denmark kbye_
faze and navi are in different groups in blast, soooooooooo
2022-01-22 17:05
and G2, with the current core (ever since NiKo left)
2022-01-22 08:09
#11
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Switzerland nierg
NiKo>Twistzz m0nesy=broky if not m0nesy>broky hunter>ropz AleksiB>karrigan Jackz<rain
2022-01-21 16:01
1 reply
#22
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Estonia v1dic
hunter<ropz
2022-01-21 16:10
Lol G2 is significantly better than Faze. Faze is done Karrigan is washed and rain is beyond inconsistent. Twistzz is an entry fragger trying to be the main rifler. Broky has the lowest impact of any AWPer In t1.
2022-01-21 16:07
4 replies
faze didn't beat g2 but g2 didn't win anything just like faze. with the difference that faze had a thousand changes and was never able to adapt. On the contrary, practically the whole year g2 had the same team and never won anything. So g2 is more embarrassing than FaZe.
2022-01-21 16:49
3 replies
Lol finishing 2nd at every major lan up to the major is disappointing while faze finished top 4 once all year okay buddy. Also G2 had several lineups this year with Kenny in jackz out then jackz in Kenny out and finally nexa out Kenny in but sure they had the same team all year.
2022-01-21 18:55
2 replies
Stop talking nonsense .... coming out second or fifth is the same. the important thing is to win the tournament... not to start second or third or tenth. lost thought.
2022-01-21 19:00
1 reply
lollllllll 2nd and 5th are not even remotely the same getting 2nd at LAN consistently without an AWPer is very impressive.
2022-01-21 20:06
niko > twistzz monesy > broky hunter < ropz aleksib > karrigan jackz > rain
2022-01-21 16:08
KKKKKKKKKKK Faze's never beaten G2. Until they kick karrigan and rain they will be trash forever
2022-01-21 16:09
3 replies
faze didn't beat g2 but g2 didn't win anything just like faze. with the difference that faze had a thousand changes and was never able to adapt. On the contrary, practically the whole year g2 had the same team and never won anything. So g2 is more embarrassing than FaZe.
2022-01-21 16:49
2 replies
0/8 Faze is a joke
2022-01-21 17:13
1 reply
a Japanese talking about cs is a joke. go play pokemon
2022-01-21 18:57
We will see. No need to be cocky my man. AleksiB is kinda overrated as an IGL but they still got a lot of potential. If Aleksib proves everyone wrong G2 might become the team that dethrones NaVi i'm pretty sure. And actually i'm not rly confident with Karrigan. He is good IGL but he is kinda old for tier 1 IMO. I still going to bet FaZe will be in the Major final this year but i'm not rly believe in it.
2022-01-21 16:15
1 reply
i thinck both g2 and faze can detrone navi well atleast we would have 3 equal teams that can win any tournament not forgetting about vitality they can be insane aswell
2022-01-21 16:28
#32
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Canada JC_123
obviously
2022-01-21 16:16
Nah mate broky trash
2022-01-21 16:17
daily reminder that G2 is yet to announce both XTQZZ and Aleksi.
2022-01-21 16:18
+1 faze forever
2022-01-21 16:19
#38
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Norway TheDEA
Hard to be too excited for G2, they haven't won anything since 2017 and will probably keep that streak for a long time.
2022-01-21 16:21
#39
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Italy PhilD06
flair
2022-01-21 16:21
Pls stop talking shxt ffs
2022-01-21 16:23
#42
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Romania DZthebest
buy faze stickers- lots of them
2022-01-21 16:24
1 reply
#64
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Denmark kbye_
already have :)
2022-01-21 17:25
hjahahhahahahahahahahahhahahja Ropz < huNter- Karrigan < AleksiB Broky < m0NESY rain > JaCkz Twistzz < NiKo FaZe is nothing but a retirement home for washed up players.
2022-01-21 16:53
2 replies
how is hunter better than ropz? because hunter had 1 better year than ropz? meanwhile monesy hasnt even played one game in tier 1 and he is already better than broky?
2022-01-21 19:00
1 reply
useless debate . fans are fans . based ppl wait and see
2022-01-21 21:26
#53
RUSH | 
Germany rs6a
FaZe Clan blew a 15-11 lead in the 2018 Boston Major to Cloud9 giving NA its first and only Major in CS:GO history
2022-01-21 16:52
3 replies
G2 blew a 14-7/15-12 lead against Na'Vi to give Na'Vi their first and only Major in CS:GO history. In both instances NiKo was on that team... Not that I think NiKo individually choked (apart from that one deagle). It was him who got G2 that deep into the final in the first place. But your argument still doesn't make sense.
2022-01-21 21:23
2 replies
#116
RUSH | 
Germany rs6a
Faze chokes everything and will not win anything notable in 2022. I will delete my HLTV account if they do.
2022-01-21 22:02
1 reply
#133
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Korea Rel^
I remember Anthony saying the same
2022-01-22 00:51
#55
Jame | 
France masnoi
daily reminder that either FaZe or G2 wont win anything this year
2022-01-21 17:05
I've seen Tenz play, he doesn't even use a monitor. He visualizes the map in a detailed rendering, completely in his mind. He has a biological wallhack; his godlike perception highlights all enemies within light-years. His eyes are closed as his mouse gracefully swerves across the table, making immaculate twitches as he flicks from head to head.
2022-01-21 17:08
2 replies
#66
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Denmark kbye_
lol
2022-01-21 17:25
BatChest
2022-01-21 18:41
I'm a massive Faze fan but c'mon man
2022-01-21 18:42
9 replies
What? On paper faze has a way better roster than G2. It’s all up to whether or not karrigan performs or not which will decide whether or not faze is the best team this year
2022-01-21 19:25
8 replies
I'd say that on paper their rosters are equal. A lot will depend on m0nesy, but he doesn't have to be an absolute star on G2, since they have NiKo.
2022-01-21 21:26
Lul. NiKo alone has more impact than ropz and twistzz combined
2022-01-21 21:31
1 reply
Delusional
2022-01-21 22:18
I love both Ropz and Twistzz, but Hunter and NiKo easily outpace them M0nesy needs to prove himself in tier one, of course, so it's hard to compare him and Broky. But it's already known Broky really needs to work on his passiveness. Rain is better than Jackz no doubt AleksiB (and Nexa, if that deal falls through) both are better than Karrigan in terms of firepower. Both probably worse IGLs, but Karrigan has been calling an awful T-side all year. If Faze wants to stand a chance he really needs to improve his calling on T-side Personally I think they could contend, but G2 should definitely beat Faze
2022-01-21 22:22
4 replies
Cringe name, also you’re in for a rude surprise
2022-01-21 22:36
3 replies
Homie Faze is my favorite team, I'd love for them to pull up and start dominating. But we need to temper our expectations. +Ropz is massive, but it's not the only solution they needed to have Also don't be a toxic Faze fan my guy, you're ruining it for the rest of us
2022-01-21 23:30
2 replies
Homie, if you were a FaZe fan, you would've known broky is one of the most passive awpers t1 has ever seen.
2022-01-21 23:31
1 reply
Yes, he's literally THE most passive t-side AWPer. He's a great player, but his inability to get openings really brought the team down When I said "work on his passiveness" that's what I meant, he needs to stop being so passive. Faze lose their openings way too much, and a lurker like Ropz isn't going to fix that Edit for context; hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star.. Literally the only player in the top-30 attempting less openings on T-side is Interz, a support player On top of that, he is only successful 53% of the time. He's so much more mechanically gifted then someone like Jame, but attempts less and succeeds less He's a shit T-side AWPer right now. Faze need to fix that to be contenders, which I hope they will be
2022-01-22 00:21
Faze will choke as Karrrrigon is still the IGL
2022-01-21 18:56
0/8
2022-01-21 18:57
+1
2022-01-21 19:00
Daily reminder that you are retarded
2022-01-21 19:23
5 replies
#87
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United States Azaqa
everything checks out
2022-01-21 19:24
3 replies
My flag doesn't
2022-01-21 19:25
2 replies
#91
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United States Azaqa
It does.
2022-01-21 19:26
1 reply
It doesn't /closed
2022-01-21 19:27
#132
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Korea Rel^
+1
2022-01-22 00:49
a team with karrigan and broky is not good
2022-01-21 22:03
Ok
2022-01-21 22:06
#119
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Trinidad and Tobago r41
i just checked rankings and it doesnt seem like it
2022-01-21 22:06
#124
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
New FaZe = Old G2 maybe a little bit better New G2 is better than Old faze, at least on paper
2022-01-21 22:30
#131
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Korea Rel^
I aren't think that...
2022-01-22 00:49
#146
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Serbia Cheerio23
I want to say +1 but I'm also very excited for G2 G2 will definitely have to overcome a lot more problems than FaZe though and FaZe will be the team I cheer for the most in 2022.
2022-01-22 17:08
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