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64 tick = cant spray, bullets dont collide with target most of the time
trust factor = doesnt work at all and if u get low level (aka report someone or get reported for any reason) u might as well unistall cause you will only play with cheaters
no anticheat = lets face it, its like night and day with faceit anticheat and i dont care about the intrusive drama, its just useless as it is, 100% useless as it has been proven several cheats are still undetected after many years paid or not paid
language barrier = on mm almost noone can speak proper english or refuse to communicate in basic english (cause they're idiots) unless youre playing in NA obviously but thats another story for another time
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if you play well and get reported u get low trust factor
if u report anyone for any reason u get low trust factor
gg
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Simply not true
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ok reddit user
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"and they aren't cheating"
more like
"spinbotting, aimbotting, wallhacking but not detected by VAC"
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Yeah I agree. Though how are red trust players going to get out of red trust if they keep reporting cheaters who don't get banned.. :D
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It's a circle of pain, because what the game wants you to do is not complain about the cheaters and just accept losing basically till you aren't considered toxic anymore. You can also guess right and with an entire VAC wave if you have reported enough cheaters - boom, welcome back to neutral/green :D
It's like a bloody Russian roulette... :D
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In my experience, I report everybody normally whether for toxic or cheating, and just recently I got out of red trust now. I can't say the reason for others, only passing on my experience. All I did was play very regularly (40 mm games within a month) and nothing else out of order really. People report me a lot for toxicity too, I still have an automatic mute.
I know why I got into red trust in the first place - it was the first time I didn't restart my PC after cheating on a smurf and switched account. Seems to have gone away over time because I didn't do anything funky on my main account that I play legit on. Maybe I'm lucky, but I genuinely think it's because I played very regularly and didn't get reported for cheating, that's all.
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Something goes wrong then, and be aware that we live in a time and age, where the SJW's rule the internet - which means that one word can be the trigger of your reports, even if the word isn't offensive in any way.
It sounds stupid, but I bet you know what I'm talking about.
Reports that isn't correct won't affect you when it comes to your gameplay.
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toxicity doesn't affect trust factor at all
old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comment..
Valve dev confirming it only affects likeliness of cheating.
complaining about tick = looking for excuses
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lol, everyone knows how bad is 64 tick, half ur bullets get lost in the matrix when u shoot
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No, actually #2 is right
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i hope ure trolling
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point being? Practice makes perfect I guess?
He obviously values other things over his CSGO skills and that's fine, like, he has a youtube channel that makes him a lot of money....
His skills and understanding of the game is more than sufficient to test mechanics.
Also fact that you take IQ into account in a game that's only a grind and nothing else does not encourage me that you want to have a reasonable conversation.
U dumb asf hehe
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placebo effect works just like it supposed to. find another reason to complain.
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Sm are fun Lm are fun
/case closed
funny
Why play CS:GO
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cause its the only good fps
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I more or less follow the scene and even sometimes watch matches. What's wrong?
every person who likes to watch soccer or any other sport usually practices it?
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trust works tho
i can mostly agree about the last one, but not for the rest
# 1 -> not completely true, i have a potato pc so i wouldn't be able to spray on 128tick anyways and when someone with high-end pc sprays (or at least tries to spray) it can look pretty ugly
# 2 -> trust is fine, just basically the ranking system is broken and the games can be very one-sided most of the times
# 3 -> i mean there are cheaters everywhere, so we don't need to cry about Valve's anti-cheat at first place - i have only encountered very few cheaters in last couple of years.
# 4 -> is kinda true but u can get the things messy in any platform (faceit, esea etc.) and toxicity is not a platform related problem - they are everywhere you go....
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1# make separate queues = problem solved
2# its not fine when anyone can report u at anytime and plummet ur trust factor, also u cant report people otherwise goodbye trust factor
3# not even close to faceit, at least faceit has anticheat where u have to pay good money to afford cheating
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# 1 -> that is basically never happening, not because Valve cannot do it, it's because they DON'T want to do it? Why? What will be the point of playing on a third party services then? What will entice you to pay faceit to play there (or on any other platform if u have 128 for free).
# 2 -> not true at all, i got many reports on some of my accounts, and when i play really good and vs. bad opponents (when i basically run all over them) it is understandable that i will get reported for cheating - you just can't forbid people ticking the boxes - there has to be some way of trying to resolve some of the problems the game has
# 3 -> what was the name of that star player recently linked to NaVi? (i am just joking but you have to get the point) Was it STARGAZ or something?
Have a good day
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OP doesn’t know what the hell they’re talking about
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this is an EU+ thread, please move along
1# theres penty of reason to still play faceit, ladder, fpl, anitcheat, exposure to pro world etc etc do i really have to explain it to you? lol
2# the current situation is just bad, play good and get punished with low trust cause people are salty, surely theres a better solution
3# i dont know what youre talking about
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1# your mom
2# doin your mom
3#she was fine
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cringe
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Overused word (cringe)
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1. Did i sound aggressive to you? Because i wasnt, im just saying it how it is.
Why you think you won't be able to spray on 128 tick? "wouldn't be able" and "im not able" are two different things. When you say i wouldn't be able it sounds like you dont even know yourself, you either can or cant.
Plus spraying on 128 is a lot better than spraying on 64 tick.
Regardless of your PC, on my own pc where i was getting 80 fps faceit was better for me, same with my new pc where i play with 260-300 fps.
Spraying actually kill people unlike MM and has less randomness in it.
2. Ranking system is indeed shit af.
Sometimes my teammates have 3 kills whole game whereas i have 30+
Sometimes we destroy, othertimes we get destroyed. There is no consistency at all.
I am Supreme and i play with my LE friend.
3. VAC is useless, whereas on faceit its almost impossible to cheat due to the regular updates.
4. Ppl in MM always toxic af but thats because they just dont care enough about it, they rather win on faceit than on MM, so they usually troll, yell or mess around being funny.
On faceit ppl talk and give info, wanna win.
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1. Do you play with net_graph 1? Do you know what is var reffers to? Well when there is a gunfight or there are multiple people in close area that value gets higher which results in game smoothness, if it is higher, game gets laggy - my point is when i play mm i have like 10-15 when in a huge gunfight , but when on faceit it gets up to 40 - try to spray with that.
2. You said what i've said so i am not wrong about that
3. There are cheaters everywhere. I have watched some videos of youtubers close with the community which say that there are even pro players cheating for many years - why is that not revealed? Why do you think? I have a very reasonable opinion about that but it's up to everyone to realize why is that thing still bugging this game.
4. I was talking about toxicity - there are toxic players everywhere, it's true that ppl troll in mm, but it's not that true that they tryhard on faceit - from the games i have played on faceit like 80% were "gg go next" 3rd round into the game and they start muting each other because ofc they don't understand each other (english language is still a problem nowadays - how sad) - so yeah kinda the same as mm....
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When i play faceit everyone speaks English, i don't remember my last MM game where someone didn't speak Russian.
It's always the same shit.
Pros may cheat, some tier 2 pros when there is no anti cheat as a requirement.
Still you can cheat for free on MM and not get banned.
For faceit you need to have ur cheat updated right before the game and hopefully faceit didn't update yet.
And it's expensive af if u want a cheat who may bypass faceit ac
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if someone reports you it doesnt ruin youre trust factor, at least not for me.
Ive never really had any problems with MM, only in my first matches ever did I get cheaters.
128 tick is better than 64 but 64 isnt bad either, people are forgetting cod's 24 tick servers and how they are still really good and popular...
For me it's 3/100 games people speak almost on every game English and not russian and if they speak it is fine i don't care atleast if they give callouts. Gud egglish btw
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I see more finnish people : D
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My life goal = have fun with friends on a video game
If you have bad trust factor it’s because you’re toxic and quit out all the time. That’s a you problem. Not the game.
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no
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Good argument
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i gave arguments above, im not gonna repeat myself
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Yeah and you got clowned
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youre the reddit user from before pls dont talk to me
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Ok mens have fun complaining
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YEEEEESSSS This. Is. It! I am trying to get the 3rd one rn
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I feel you man
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sadge
I don't play cs go actively. Occasionally i'll casually play 1-2 matches per week and mm is perfect for that.
i just play mm with my irl friends we just fuck around and shit talk
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thats pretty fair
I have reached level 10 on faceit
Just for the sake of a tick, I wanted to reach Global elite in MM, then in wingman, and that's it. The game can be deleted, then it's difficult for me to strive for something high with a ping of 100 and a bad PC.
sometimes playing mm because not in form for faceit (havent played in a while, don't wanna play more serious, or tired for example)
only with friends of course
Its easy to find a match, plus if you dont take the game too seriously its fine
im gonna answer your 4 points and then give my reasoning afterwards
1. learn to aim lol spraying works fine
2. why do i care if trust factor is bad for new accounts? i have an old account so it doesnt effect me.
3. i only fight like 1 cheater every 30+ games and they usually are legit hacking and dont even top frag so who cares.
4. i play on EU and NA servers & language barrier does suck so i usually 5man and when i dont 5man i will admit language barriers do come up but i dont feel like faceit is much better in that regard.
The main reason i play mm is its just more fun, im not trying to go pro so id rather play mm as its less serious. Ive grinded in the past and i have the ability to play 7-8faceit and hold my own but i also got so into cs that my day would be ruined with 1 or 2 losses. In mm i can lose 20 games in a row and still be happy its less serious & more fun.
spraying on 64 tick isnt that hard lol
Trust factor usually works if you play regularly and aren't cheater, good trust you barely get any cheaters. Toxicity has nothing to do with it, but how often you play does.
I was good trust factor throughout all my 5 automutes over 1.5 years even when i got cooldowns for griefing multiple times. Only when I didn't restart my PC after using cheats did I get red trust factor on my legit main account, and it's still there. Probably getting VAC soon but whatever.
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typical navi fan
I agree. It's a shame that in year 2022 we don't have a better version of counter-strike.
64 tick = cant spray, bullets dont collide with target most of the time.
Can't spray on 64, can't spray on 128 tick, skill issue
trust factor = doesnt work at all and if u get low level (aka report someone or get reported for any reason) u might as well unistall cause you will only play with cheaters.
my account is old so trust factor = high
no anticheat = lets face it, its like night and day with faceit anticheat and i dont care about the intrusive drama, its just useless as it is, 100% useless as it has been proven several cheats are still undetected after many years paid or not paid
high trust factor doesn't see many cheaters,
language barrier = on mm almost noone can speak proper english or refuse to communicate in basic english (cause they're idiots) unless youre playing in NA obviously but thats another story for another time
Same problem in faceit what are you on about?
1 cheater in the last 6 months
bad pc, dying mouse still DMG
cry harder
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dmg is not high rank lmao
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its not but its not like i cry everyday about MM
i just play and get good enough
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get good enough
u realize dmg is like slightly better than gold nova right?
u wouldn't make 10 frags on faceit
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like yeah sure but there are bigger priorities in my life rather than getting LEM or faceit lvl 8+ or whatever
just cos i dont grind cs doesnt mean i dont grind something else
but i never cry
even though cry is indeed actually empirically free
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i can guarantee you cry will never be free
also its okay to not try hard but don't go around saying ur a good player :)
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being ok while no cry >> being good while cry
was more or less my point
but yeah DMG is not even remotely special ofc
dmg is mostly like 1 lvl in faceit, i constantly get some 1 lvl dogs in mm in supreme elo (70 wins) i dont play shitty mm cuz it really sucks my trust factor is red for unknown reason, 9 lvl faceit playing with my low elo noob friends who cant get 5 kills but still having fun
In NA you can communicate better, but the ranking system is really bad... I'm a GN2 and I regularly get completely new players in my games (I had a guy with literally 6 hours total played on my team a few days ago and he had 2 kills in 25 rounds so he was probably an actual new player), and I regularly get low silvers on my team who feel bad because they've performed poorly, only to find out that they solo queued into a full nova game. I've gotten matches after only 5 seconds of queueing only to be in a game with 6+ silvers as a GN2, and queueing with my friend (whos also my rank) doesn't have ANY effect on this. Also the lack of bots is really stupid as well.
voo's video "Matchmaking is Broken & It's Killing CS:GO" talks about this as well, its definitely a pretty big issue imo
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Blame NA playerbase, also voo's a reddit tier snowflake
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seems like a lot of people dont wanna open an anticheat ;)
Here's an interesting thing about trust factor:
I stream and thanks to stupendous implementation of preventing OBS from working and capturing CSGO I have to resort to one of two things:
1) play in borderless mode, anyone who has ever used that knows it's TEEEEEEEERIBLE for your input latency. And statistically I am hella worse as well while playing with it, duels are wonky and I can't seem to respond in time to anything, always needing to adjust aim more and more. NO
2) enable third party apps access, basically going -untrusted.
I went for 2 and whenever I streamed I played with shitton of cheaters, it's unholy and it kinda goes without saying that if I stream I do not cheat, it would be kinda stupid to violate a contract that has my name and my ID on it.
But when I play just for my self without streaming I do not go -untrusted and 2-3 games in cheaters seems to filter out. There's still some but matches at least are not 16-4 or 3-16 of one team only rushing one site and wiping enemy team without any flashes or smokes or anything, you know, you average cheater game where each round is 30 seconds max.
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not all cheaters are super obvious, a lot of them just play with info or toggle harder when they are losing, or just toggle in key rounds / situations
if someone is good at it u wont even notice hes actually cheating unless u watch the replay from his pov
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I watch demos, when I notice shit's sus I watch the demo.
And yeah, in some cases it's a bottom fragging guy walking around looking trough walls.
In others it's pre made squad with each one of them toggling it for a few rounds.
If someone was good at it they would not cheat, so you can ALWAYS see them cheat.
Number one telling of cheaters is that their movement sucks but aim is godlike.
They can't cheat for movement apart from certain jumps, but that's even worse because you see them suck at walking around and then they do a perfect mid pillar to window to vent jump 10/10 times.
trust factor is straight bs.
in the old days, when you report someone, this person doesn't get low trust factor, and instead just gets overwatch if he is cheater and gets banned.
but now, if you headshot someone, they immediately report you, which gets you into low trust factor mm matches with other idiots.
what a fucking joke, valve.
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true #125
exactly and some people dare to say its not true
+1 this is so retarded
i created a smurf cuz i only play vs cheaters on main
=> get reported a lot cuz ppl get owned => play vs cheaters again
its actually ridicolous
Cry Bro Cry, Cry is Free
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its not free ffs
for lulz I guess, I play it sometimes to relax after work, it has nothing to do with try hard tho
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Agreed brother
agreed with pretty much everything except language barrier ... as long as you don't play 5 stack you will always have ppl trolling or speaking ruski only
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usually i have 2 or 3 people speaking between themselves in my team
obviously they don't give calls in english
and the 4th guy just doesn't speak
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yea the bullets dont actually register like half of the time
and people say its placebo lol
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Stupid take tbh:
64 tick does not matter that much, it is just an excuse to play bad.
Trust factor: is one of the best things valve has added. It works so fucking well tbh, you are just toxic if you keep getting reported
No anticheat: this is a fair complaint, but with good trustfactor it should not be such a huge issue.
Language barriers: still an issue on faceit.
My goal has always been global elite, so i understand why you would want to play mm.
MM died in a bad bad way coz of Valve's negligence.
i am playing mm for farming Rank exp for Service medals :B
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you and me = GIANTS
64 ticks is worse sure, but not that bad. You mostly wont notice missing shots apart from very slim amrgin HS or awp flicks
Trust factor is very easy to get if you arent toxic actually
I rarely find cheaters. If you have prime and a decent trust factor you wont too. A lot of people say they find cheaters when they actually didnt, and the other guy just knew how to shoot them. Dont do that.
Yeah thats kinda bad.
TL:DR MM isnt that bad, but still Faceit is better, and I only play MM because ranks have shiny images
Ty for advice
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we are BROTHERS
I was playing mm yesterday and some guy on the other team was mad at our team for "tryharding mm".
What a fucking loser lmao, "wahhh the only way to play that matters is faceit, why aren't you throwing???"
just speak in portuguese ,everyone knows it here when im playing
:D
with friends because they are gold nova's bro
Nades trajectory is horrible, whenever I throw an he is like a powerpoint presentation.
Cause im too old to even attempt playing smart and well, playing mm is so brain dead and easy even at global, playing high lvl faceit as carelessly as I play mm is just bad
I only play if I'm waiting for a friend to play faceit and I just want a short match or if I want to play a specific map that isn't Mirage...otherwise MM is full of cheaters, crappy 64 tick servers. My only regret is not playing Faceit sooner.
Because some people just want to chill and have fun after a hard day of work, something you'll learn when you're older, they want something that's easy to use and mm is perfect for that.
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