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S1mple/Zywoo
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United States Azaqa 
How long do you think these two will last as top 2 on the list? Its already been 3 years so far, how many more until one of them falls off or retires?
2022-01-22 20:43
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#1
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Poland Astoner55
I give s1mple 2 more years and then he burns out
2022-01-22 20:44
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#11
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France poulpup
as any human being, sadly
2022-01-22 20:46
ZywOo for another 4-5 years s1mple for another 2-3 years But who knows? Hobbit peaked at 27 lol.
2022-01-22 20:44
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#7
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Are ypu saying that s1mple and zywoo havent peaked?? What would be consider a peak then? Having 1,5 rating at the end of a year lmao?
2022-01-22 20:45
19 replies
Why not? They both can do that shit
2022-01-22 20:47
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#19
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
You do understand that s1mple has 1.35 rating in 2021 and he has been THE MOST DOMINANT EVER. Having 1.5 rating means that a player can play 3v7 and they still can win
2022-01-22 20:48
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Now i'm not sure in my opinion. Saw a comment where a guy said that S1mple might lose his grip after a while due to his slightly rambunctious lifestyle. I began to notice that a large number of videos appeared on YouTube, where Sasha misses in situations where he usually hits. But maybe it's the echo of the holidays? #9
2022-01-22 20:53
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#26
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Potentially. He might be a bit rusty(by his standarts), thus he misses some of his shots
2022-01-22 20:54
forest prime was higher than 1.35 same for gtr
2022-01-22 21:34
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#31
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
No it wasn’t
2022-01-22 21:39
2 replies
it was rating 1.0 anyway so can t compare
2022-01-22 23:37
1 reply
Yes you can hltv.org/stats/players/compare/39/get-ri.. Looking at the difference in stats its bullshit that gtr has a higher rating
2022-01-23 00:29
#43
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
can this go down as one of the dumbest things I've read on HLTV this year
2022-01-23 06:22
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expected from a dumb navi fans , pretty sure you didn t even know cs back then , they have the record of match wihtout defeat 87/0 .. forest rating at that time was higher than 1.40, keep dreaming
2022-01-23 13:34
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nobody cares about ancient times though, imagine comparing it to the present. s1mple 2021 is the best performance of all time for like 99% of people, nothing will change that
2022-01-23 14:15
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i know but it dosen t proove it s correct if it s true for 99% of people . no point arguing , people will say the same in a few years for a other player.. there is no point comparing with ancient time but it s just what you did.. opinion are biased, wihtout real fact for me no one is right
2022-01-23 14:38
#16
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
2021 might be s1mple's peak most likely unless he also goes nuclear in 2022 also.zywoo hasn't peaked yet. zywoo was just 1v5 last 3 years. we will see zywoo's peak when he get top 10 players are teammates.
2022-01-22 20:47
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#21
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
i can agree to this, except s1mple peak. We cannot know when was his peak until he retires
2022-01-22 20:49
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idk i think it will either be 2021 or 2022. I dont think navi will have an era after 2022 still, they will drop off, fall apart or other teams will catch up. I dont think they will have a better era than astralis (just personal opinion, maybe they will. They have sick players and a great coach to do it). And you cant really accel as much if ur team is not dominating. This year it was both s1mple being insane and navi being as dominant as they were. If navi were like 2018/19 navi we would propably still consider 2018 s1mple as the highest individual peak ever. We have to keep in mind that winning more also boosts your confidence and stats :)
2022-01-23 14:21
Yeah, why not xD At one point, I used to think that hitting an annual rating of 1.25 in Tier-1 is crazy and such players are Gods (which they are). Then s1mple shows a 1.35, and I'm like......ok xD
2022-01-22 20:48
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#24
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
#19 That would have to be the most ridiculous, dominant, nuclear performance in any esport ever. If that happens, i am sure noone can surpass this level of dominance in any esport ever
2022-01-22 20:50
Everyone thought s1mple was at peak in 2018, but here we are. Breaking his own records
2022-01-23 14:37
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#54
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
The thing is I can comprehend how dominant would be a team, with a player going 1.4+ throughout the year/ Navi have been demolishing everything with s1mple having 1.35. It just seems insane
2022-01-23 14:44
2 i'd say atleast
2022-01-22 20:44
only 1 year anymore cuz s1mple will move to Valorant after getting bored while winning every event
2022-01-22 20:44
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#8
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United States Azaqa
If he gets bored of winning everything in CS imagine how bored he'd be in a game where tier 3 NA CS players are considered a top 3 team
2022-01-22 20:45
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#17
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Wales LorisDF
hold up, since when has there been scottish flags on hltv?
2022-01-22 20:47
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#23
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United States Azaqa
They added it like 2 days ago :D im just fakeflagging cause new flags are cool I'm actually from USA
2022-01-22 20:49
#5
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
s1mple, 3 more years. Zywoo, 5-6 years
2022-01-22 20:44
2022 for you: g2 will start off strong, navi wont be able to find their form after that looong break, they will struggle to find the motivation now to fix it and after g2 domination vitality will start winning again. Top4 will be Niko/m0nesy/zywoo and s1mple 4th
2022-01-22 20:45
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#10
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Canada Femtal
impossible that m0nesy is top 3...
2022-01-22 20:46
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haha people said the same about zywoo. monesy is the closest player ever to what zywoo was showing in tier 3 scene, destroying everyone. He is not as good as zywoo, but his mechanics and creativeness is far above s1mple and many other top players, you just havent seen enough of him. Doing it in tier 1 will be a whole other beast so i really have 0 certainty that he will actually be a top5 player in 12 months, but he has the obvious potential.
2022-01-22 21:13
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#29
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Canada Femtal
potential is a big I think it will depend a lot on the team there is a lot of factors to take in I doubt he will carry G2 I'm expecting a good year for him 1.15 rating and top 15. This year will be the most competitive year in a while with all the new rosters but I still do think the top 3 will be mostly the same in 2022 especially with their new rosters ZywOo and Niko will be more deadly
2022-01-22 21:30
I agree with you, but monesy need to work on his emotions, because in big matches he is probably gonna choke, but its fine he still young, and will need to get some experience first
2022-01-23 00:23
idk how people can type like this
2022-01-22 20:46
#13
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United States Azaqa
Interesting prediction, imo though even if navi have a bad year s1mple will still be top 2 at least
2022-01-22 20:46
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yea his stats are really consistent so its unlikely that he drops out of top3 or sth like this, but i dont actually value his impact as much as many people here praise him.
2022-01-22 21:14
s1mple is not here for long, he is 24 + drinks alcohol which decreases reflexes, speed reaction. ZywOo can be here as long as he motivated cuz he is 21 and he won't be limited by his physical condition.
2022-01-22 20:45
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S1mple drinks alcohol not so often and he still looks much more healthy than zywoo in his 21. Big amount of fat and sugar plus sedentary lifestyle will destroy your health even faster.
2022-01-23 00:12
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Say that to ZywOo, cold, old NiKo, old flamie and etc. xD
2022-01-23 05:27
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NiKo became fit, zywoo is only 21 but he is on the way to be washed, flamie and cold are washed 3-4 years already.
2022-01-23 14:00
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#56
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Georgia rubiconaim
0/8. if u check Instagram of zywoo u can see that the whole team has an active lifestyle. not like Navi guys smoking and drinking whole night in club :)
2022-01-23 14:58
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0/8 bait
2022-01-23 14:59
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#58
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Georgia rubiconaim
u mean i baited baiter?
2022-01-23 15:00
6 replies
I was talking facts, you are talking some bullshit.
2022-01-23 15:02
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#60
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Georgia rubiconaim
lmao, I was also talking facts about zywoo and his lifestyle. if he has weight it doesn't mean that he has passive life. and ''fact'' that he is on the way to be washed is more bullsh1t
2022-01-23 15:04
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You can see him at last tournaments, he looked extremely unhealthy for 21 y.o. It is actually means he has passive life, he is cs go pro, playing games 90% time and eating unhealthy food, wake up, this is not fantasy world. Everyone on the way to be washed up with this kind of lifestyle, at 21 you still can eat and drink everything just wait 2-3 more years and see what happens.
2022-01-23 15:16
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That's why s1mple will lose his skill due to motivation & physical condition. He is 24 already, started drinking at 16-18, probably.
2022-01-23 15:23
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Yeah he is drinking 24/7 also coke, heroin, whores and clubs every day. NA brain always delivers.
2022-01-23 15:28
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Did i say about 24\7? I know about him more than you, chump.
2022-01-23 18:00
None of them were as fat as zywoo. Maybe a bit less but yeah
2022-01-23 14:53
#15
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Canada go1x1n00b
s1mple is finished. Zywoo is going to be good but will be overshadowed by sh1ro
2022-01-22 20:47
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Flair definitely checks out
2022-01-22 20:48
Its so difficult to predict, i can see s1mple being top2 for 1 year or 2, then drop to 3 then come back to 1 and zywoo doing the same..
2022-01-22 20:49
I believe m0nesy will overtske the throne in 2 years
2022-01-23 00:18
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+1 i think this year M0nesy will be second but idk who will be 1st
2022-01-23 00:20
I say about 2 years for simple and 4-5 for zywoo
2022-01-23 00:22
#40
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Korea ramza72
s1mple already top 1 2018 - present day
2022-01-23 05:46
Zywoo already peaked so he will never come top /1 again. It's only downhill from here
2022-01-23 06:02
#42
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Indonesia FinZzz
Zywoo will overtake s1mple at this rate. Only 3 years at tier 1 and is already winning #1st two times and #2nd one time. Majors, grand slams, and other tournaments will come once Vitality get their shit together Zywoo will get better and its exciting to see this guy blossom even more under Zonic
2022-01-23 06:13
they are still at their peaks and they only seem to get better every year so within a few years mb
2022-01-23 08:44
#51
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Australia B_Tannen
30 years old.
2022-01-23 14:39
2 years atleast...It's insane how these 2 put insane performance with such consistency. Such a joy to watch.
2022-01-23 14:42
Both of them taking the top 2 spots? 2022/2023 is likely, after that I think S1mple will start to get older and stay top 5 for another few years before falling off harder. In at most five years he'll be out of the top 10. ZywOo might have a harder peak in a few years, so he'll stay in the top 5 or top 3 until maybe 2025. But top 1 and 2 being those two will only be for another two years, and that depends on them not having a bad year like ZywOo did in 2021 or S1mple did in 2019, though a bad year for them was still top 2 then.
2022-01-23 14:44
These are all bullshit. It's possible the two will be top 2 for a decade. Same things were said about lebron.
2022-01-23 18:03
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