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s1mple no1 for ever?
Ukraine liarcsgoCNCS 
Was there ever a better prime for anyone or do you think there will ever be anyone who'll beat his prime?
2022-01-23 10:48
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Yes, this was the highest peak that any player ever had in CS. That was officially declared yesterday: mobile.twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/148498.. And this - "With a resumé like that, an argument can even be made that this was the strongest year anyone has ever had in the history of the game. Considering s1mple having the highest floor, highest peaks, highest impact, and earning a record-setting number of eight MVPs, this was likely the most convincing #1 placing in Top 20 history, surpassing Christopher "⁠GeT_RiGhT⁠" Alesund's dominant year 2013." - From the article itself.
2022-01-23 10:51
7 replies
+1 A very good take from tgwri1s
2022-01-23 10:54
#11
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New Zealand SWARN151
+1
2022-01-23 10:57
#19
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Finland Ekkkku
+1
2022-01-23 11:55
+1
2022-01-23 11:56
#22
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Israel who_asked
+1
2022-01-23 11:58
#75
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Iceland suriel666
+1 EZ for the GOAT
2022-01-23 21:38
yes, s1 definitely the most dominant player ever AND in the current meta (which is much deeper and difficult than early CS:GO's)
2022-01-23 21:46
#3
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
smooya can do it easily
2022-01-23 10:53
zywoo. he's the best player in the world. you never count zywoo out in a 1v4 if he isn't saving and he's the only person in the world that can do that.
2022-01-23 10:53
6 replies
#5
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
if vitality is decent there's a real possibility
2022-01-23 10:54
nt apex
2022-01-23 12:15
#76
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Iceland suriel666
"this was the strongest year anyone has ever had in the history of the game." nt
2022-01-23 21:39
#179
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Ukraine IGotHooes
time to change your nickname, men))
2022-01-24 11:20
1 reply
#181
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
He cant tho hahaahahah
2022-01-24 11:23
Can't be compared because s0mple farmed stats during online era
2022-01-23 10:55
4 replies
#14
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New Zealand SWARN151
That's a foolish/ill-knowledged argument, considering that s1mple's LAN stats are a whole league above his online stats, in addition to having 100% winrate across 2021 LANs, and delivering the most impressive LAN performance of all time. And of course, s1mple being the highest rated player on LAN events in all of Tier-1 CSGO history.
2022-01-23 10:59
1 reply
he is baiting
2022-01-23 21:49
what about 2018
2022-01-23 11:00
I miss the times when there were good baits on hltv
2022-01-24 09:41
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
2018 s0mple > 2021 s0mple more maps played less awp worse team yet same rating
2022-01-23 10:55
2 replies
2019 device > 2019 zywho Won major Didn’t stat pad Didn’t get set up by his team
2022-01-23 10:58
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#15
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
0.10 rating difference too much
2022-01-23 10:59
not in the foreseeable future. Next year will be competetive af, so no team will dominate as much as navi. Therefore, s1mple is like 2nd in team achievements (after device), but way ahead of the pack in terms of stats. players like zywoo or niko aren't bad, but s1mple this year was a whole different beast
2022-01-23 10:57
4 replies
+1 the first year ever when everyone knew the top 1 basically were 100% surely s1mple.
2022-01-23 11:59
2 replies
2016 Cold was also pretty much sewed up I think.
2022-01-24 07:35
yeah the first year :DDD except for 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019
2022-01-24 09:22
tbh idk what to expect at the start of the year from teams like G2 vita and others who made roster changes, if the practice time wasn"t enough, it will be a Gambit/Navi domination again which would really be boring even if they play good cs
2022-01-23 13:00
Already 3 zywho fangirls coping above. Talking about the most obnoxious and toxic fanbase
2022-01-23 10:57
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#24
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Israel who_asked
true lol Imagine calling some fanbase toxic and annoying when you behave like this
2022-01-23 12:01
Zywoo will never be on s1mple's level. Guy was an elite player for like 7 years at this point on awful teams. I don't think Zywoo will reach those heights for that many years.
2022-01-23 11:00
27 replies
then how was he better than him 2 years in a row? 🤔🤔🤔
2022-01-23 12:17
25 replies
#77
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Iceland suriel666
because he wasn't. it's just that hltv guys decided to weigh some stats higher for him
2022-01-23 21:40
4 replies
in 2019 he was clearly better in 2020 it was dead-close stat-wise but won with team achievements - 6 MVP's and 4 EVP's at big events "Why was ZywOo the best player of 2020? ZywOo edged out s1mple in one of the closest races for the No.1 spot in the history of the HLTV Top 20 thanks to being a more impactful player in the most competitive tournaments and in the biggest matches." - HLTV article he was just better and more impactful which won him more events, stop being delusional
2022-01-24 11:12
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#185
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Iceland suriel666
yeah except that hltv themselves told s1mple to blame valve, because they didn't give out MVPs to CIS RMRs and that it was the mvps in the end that he lost 2020
2022-01-24 11:33
2 replies
there were 3 cis rmrs, in two of them navi shat the bed and won only one which would've brought just one mvp to simple. And zywoo would still have 3 more
2022-01-24 13:03
1 reply
+1 out of all events, s1mple played the worst in these cis rmrs
2022-01-24 19:47
#94
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CIS StandINZ
He was better in 2019 by a bit and wasn't better in 2020 so... 3 years n1 vs 1 year n1. Hope you can count. Also s1mple 1 major mvp zywoo 0 major mvp
2022-01-23 23:29
19 replies
Zywoo #1 player in his first two years on t1 scene S1mple????????
2022-01-24 09:27
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#135
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CIS StandINZ
S1mple stable top 1 stats in every major. Zywoo???????
2022-01-24 10:07
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'S1mple stable top 1 stats in every major' Hahahhahaha, this made my day So what did s1mple achieve in his first two years of tier1 cs? Cmon cis boy, this is a simple question ;)
2022-01-24 10:13
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#137
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CIS StandINZ
Major final ? What did zywoo achieve ? Inflated stats and undeserved n1 ? Kkkkkkkkkkkkk.....
2022-01-24 10:14
13 replies
Three tier1 titles, two tier2 titles Two #1 player awards S1mple - one choked major final XD XDDDDDDDDDDD
2022-01-24 10:21
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#142
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CIS StandINZ
Yeah yeah. watch s1mple destroy him for next 5 years
2022-01-24 10:29
3 replies
Btw i forgot s1mple's main achievement The ESL ban XDDDD Cry and cope fan of toxic cheating scammer kekw Zywoo will overcome s1mple in everything after few years
2022-01-24 10:32
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#151
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CIS StandINZ
Cry is free irrelevant scene
2022-01-24 10:34
1 reply
Indeed cry is free irrelevant scene
2022-01-24 10:34
2, newbie spotted, reported
2022-01-24 11:16
7 replies
What 2?he choked one major final in his first two years of real cs (2016 and 2017) Reported
2022-01-24 11:40
6 replies
2018
2022-01-24 11:42
5 replies
2018 was his third year of real cs, 0iq
2022-01-24 11:42
4 replies
Idiot? Learn to read alt dog
2022-01-24 11:43
3 replies
Idiot? Learn to read alt dog
2022-01-24 11:43
2 replies
Nice to know that you can copy paste, next step is to read message slowly and answer, but that’s may be a little bit advance for you
2022-01-24 11:45
1 reply
Idiot? Learn to read alt dog
2022-01-24 11:45
#175 delusional
2022-01-24 11:11
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#213
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CIS StandINZ
Yeah hltv quote ok delusional
2022-01-24 13:09
Never? Lmao nice guess, the odds for that arent as great as you seem to think tho.
2022-01-24 07:56
#28
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India Eosha
What
2022-01-23 12:15
i have an extremely extremely strong feeling zywoo will beat him. the bots are gone and he's zonic's golden child to nurture now. like a puppy on the teet of their mother.
2022-01-23 12:17
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but i still have to say XQTZZ > Zonic in terms of nuturing + i am afraid that zonic will force zywoo to play in a certain way unlike before were he was allowed to "play as he wants"
2022-01-23 13:01
1 reply
No one is going to force zywoo do anything because he's the player that can make them win. Use your brain.
2022-01-24 07:57
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Faroe Islands klnv
s0mple will destroy his career
2022-01-23 12:19
1 reply
Already too late no ? His career is already awsome. Don''t be toxic for no reason and enjoy both players ! S1mple is the goat of this year, nou doubt.
2022-01-24 19:54
Where is ecolai, you know that mediocre awper?
2022-01-23 12:50
he just playing awp what do you want?..
2022-01-23 12:51
ZywOo will. 3 years as a pro and he is already twice #1 and once #2. And he is only 21 y.o. I bet he'll become a GOAT player after s1mple retires.
2022-01-23 12:54
4 replies
man in 3 years he won nothing relevant in csgo, and his 3 times in major he never passed quarters
2022-01-23 17:56
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i have to tell you it s a team game, and zywoo add as much trophy in 2 years as s1mple in 6 , so it s not that bad , for now he is doing a lot better than s1mple with trophy and top1 /top 2 and mvp in just 3 years, let see in 3 more years.. for me both are more or less equal but zywoo is not at his best yet, and maybe s1mple is also not as his best yet, i think s1mple can stay in the top 3 for many years
2022-01-23 18:16
What did s1mple achieve in 3 years?
2022-01-24 09:29
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#183
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Serbia e_loK
Apart from 2021 domination, nothing We had astralis winning everything in 2018 and 2019 and we got a bit of liquid at one point. But vita and navi were barely teams back then
2022-01-24 11:28
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Czech Republic realProkda
s1mple bestest, no one is even close, now I forbid anyone to argue. /closed
2022-01-23 13:10
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nt prokda :D
2022-01-23 21:44
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France iatis
We will see if zywoo use awp this year to the same extent (thought already 7 percent less than s1mple (kill wise)). I looked one demo, and dupreeh were pretty talented CT awp. Bit is the second awp user with less than 4 % kill in Navi. Whereas last year shox were 12 %. It might repeat this year. So peak wise, might be lesser.
2022-01-23 18:13
I have contacts that know how the new vitality roster is going and according to them they are looking unstoppable because zywoo finally has 2 players who are positive their whole careers. ZywOo coming for #1 he is probably the best rifler and pistol player in the world and #2 at awping.
2022-01-23 18:14
6 replies
Vitality and G2 huge pressure for 2022 and I think personally they will fail hard
2022-01-23 21:54
5 replies
i lied btw
2022-01-24 03:47
4 replies
Why you lieded men?
2022-01-24 07:54
3 replies
i didnt lie about him being the best rifler and pistol player and #2 awper
2022-01-24 11:02
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#184
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
I mean id say dennis is the best pistol player but ok
2022-01-24 11:30
1 reply
stop living in past mens and hltv even said he was #1 in pistols for 2021 lul
2022-01-24 14:10
Its really hard to compare, the domination of Navi is based on a hole of performance by other dead teams. If Navi and s1mple can continue this numbers and domination in 2022 aswell, you cann call this the highest peak.
2022-01-23 19:05
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China RADNIKEY
Coldzera or FalleN
2022-01-23 21:24
s1mple is besterestest forever
2022-01-23 21:28
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Ukraine Xpicyy
+1
2022-01-23 22:09
With the crazy stuff m0nesy is already doing I'm sure some random kid better than s1mple will come around in the next 10 years.
2022-01-23 21:46
1 reply
It's not like s1mple is pushing 30 or something.
2022-01-24 07:59
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Iceland suriel666
easily yes
2022-01-23 21:47
#85
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Brazil Madamrocas
I think in a couple of years, zywoo might have the greatest year in the history of cs.
2022-01-23 21:50
Might not be forever but pretty sure these records he set in 2021 won't be broken in a long time.
2022-01-23 21:52
He has been surpassed countless times by zywoo
2022-01-23 21:52
Zywoo > S1mple in a couple of years Zywoo instantly became a top1-2 player while s1mple took some years
2022-01-23 21:52
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2019 was Zywoo's peak (he was 0.01 rating worse than s1mple, but took top1 cuz of RMR MVPs...) 2020 = s1mple was real top1 2021 = s1mple is far ahead of zywoo and others 2022 = ...
2022-01-23 22:11
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ah yes the real top 1 is decided by a fanboy and not HLTV
2022-01-24 10:15
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rating, numbers, performacnes you can cope but it won't change facts. everyone know that in 2020 S1mple got robbed by HLTV
2022-01-24 10:30
1 reply
no 2020 s1mple sucked ass
2022-01-24 21:02
ZyWoO still zero t1 LANs won And already falling off. Yeah s1mple > zywho next 5 years
2022-01-24 06:21
no no no no no no no
2022-01-23 23:27
Zywoo still better individually He can school s0mple
2022-01-24 06:30
5 replies
s1mple = better rating, better place of the year, more trophies, way more consistent, way more skilled, way more versatile
2022-01-24 07:37
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France bjjthibz
i agree on all except the "way more consistent". Consistency is ZywOo's main quality ! But overall S1mple was far ahead in 2021, no doubt.
2022-01-24 11:00
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s1mple's consistency is 5+ years in a row dude zywoo's career is 3x shorter
2022-01-24 11:10
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France bjjthibz
yes, in that way i understand what you mean, but if you take proportionally, there has to be an argument, ZywOo 1st 3 years : 1st, 1st, 2nd ... it is also very consistent ;) EDIT : actually we shouldn't even "argue" and just profit to have these 2 monsters playing in the same period, it kinda reminds me the CR7/Messi thing in football, let's just enjoy watching them because they are definitely not normal players !
2022-01-24 11:19
s1mple highest peak ever, cry is free ))
2022-01-24 07:44
here come the fanboys fighting over who is better.
2022-01-24 07:44
I saw that one awp clip of m0nesy on mirage and I’m convinced he can surpass s1mple. When s1mple was young, csgo was still pretty lackluster in terms of strategy and overall aim/positioning. m0nesy is growing up when cs is so complex and skillful, who knows how high he can get
2022-01-24 08:15
1 reply
0/8 m0nesy is overrated kid, won't do much except destroying of G2's CS:GO roster
2022-01-24 10:31
3 replies
based Smooya. i'm not surprised that S1mple + Smooya = bromance #GO_UK!
2022-01-24 10:33
2 replies
lol, I could have copied anybody's status tbh tho. The guy has beaten all individual records in this game haha
2022-01-24 10:34
1 reply
+1
2022-01-24 10:34
highest skill ceiling was clearly kenny
2022-01-24 10:33
1 reply
no way s1mple 2021 >> s1mple 2018 >>>>>>>>>> kennyS' peak
2022-01-24 10:34
deserved this year, absolute monster and has truly developed into a great. Honestly though, I preferred watching get_right in his pomp. Could be I was younger and it feels nostalgic but there you go.
2022-01-24 10:37
#159
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Ireland reyno0o
If Vitality have a year like NaVi had last year, Zywoo could definitely beat s1mple from last year.
2022-01-24 10:39
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vitality is falling down
2022-01-24 10:41
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Ireland reyno0o
we'll see how things go with the new lineup. It's a big ask though for them to have a year like NaVi just did, let alone even be competitive with NaVi
2022-01-24 10:51
S1mple number 1
2022-01-24 10:39
only zywoo but he has diff playstyle
2022-01-24 10:57
#169
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Ireland reyno0o
delete
2022-01-24 10:59
#170
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Latvia Tibro
bro it is sport ofc in cs is harder becouse it is teamgame, but probably someone like m0nesy or some young no lifer will be better if motvation is on point
2022-01-24 10:59
maybe
2022-01-24 11:39
ZywOo is not in his prime yet, with more experience he might surpass S1mple's peak in 2021, but there's no way to be certain. Eventually there will be someone who peaks higher than either of them though, there is always a gradual improvement. That's why records and the best players of all time are most often very recent, everything improves. Think of Magnus Carlsen in chess, none of the historical chess legends would manage to beat him, probably not even any of the runner-ups. In CS the first player who was GOAT-worthy was GTR, but 3/4 of the top 20 now is better than his peak, though it doesn't take away how great he was, because he was the foundation on which the great players today have built, including S1mple, though S1mple peaked so much higher that GOAT status is probably even more deserved by him.
2022-01-24 11:51
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Romania xypperz
xyp9x, easily.
2022-01-24 11:51
coldzera
2022-01-24 12:10
S1mple was a beast for the last 6 years now, remember that he brought an average team like Liquid to a fkn major final, if S1mple had a good team he would have been N1 for the last 6 years in a row
2022-01-24 13:00
#212
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Germany X5ander
maybe Aqua from BIG Academy could be better than simple. Or Xantares, when the new turkish superteam begin to perform.
2022-01-24 13:06
if zywoo wins major and top 1 this yr, he already replaces s1mple as goat. if s1mple wins major and top 1 this yr, he will probably never be beat.
2022-01-24 19:54
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