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Is ECSTATIC actually cheating?
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Korea Axiotimos 
Guys, do we have enough proof that ECSTATIC (or birdfromsky) is cheating? On Akuma there were enough videos and it was kinda very obvious that they were cheating, but i cant find any videos about ECSTATIC on youtube though.
2022-01-23 15:08
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2022-01-23 15:09
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someone from k23 said on twitter that he didnt know birdfromsky is the best igl and basicly said he believes he is using radar hack or something
2022-01-23 15:11
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Norber is a certified crybaby
2022-01-23 18:54
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There were some other posts claiming shit like "nato and some other standins for lingby vikings were super sus of birdfromsky after he kept making perfect calls, leading them to leave" but they couldn't be substantiated The entire thing just feels like the internet taking some bs at face value and rolling with it tbh...
2022-01-23 20:11
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nowhere near the outrage that akuma faced, not at all like that, but that doesn't mean we have full picture here. norber7 is always crying on twitter, i remember that one time he got destroyed by that havu 5 awp setup. however i did see some others like floppy throwing a bit of shade, but as i said nowhere near, its probably not true.
2022-02-07 12:33
Just CIS teams/fans crying
2022-01-23 15:09
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#9
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Lithuania whooooo
flag + flair
2022-01-23 15:11
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Seychelles is just a nice flag, im danish but live in austria i support the danish teams
2022-01-23 15:12
Lithuania
2022-01-23 16:13
not only CIS twitter.com/floppyCSGO/status/1485248813.. but still dont think that ecstatic cheating
2022-01-23 15:12
8 replies
Ukraine is not CIS, relax buddy just stay happy...
2022-01-23 20:01
7 replies
What
2022-01-23 20:23
6 replies
learn to read
2022-01-23 20:29
5 replies
He didn't say anything about Ukraine not being cis or being...
2022-01-23 20:47
4 replies
i'm just wondering why he cares so much about "CIS" if he is not a part of this garbage shitshow
2022-01-23 20:48
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Tf you talking about? #2 said cis fans crying. Read #20 again maybe learn to understand your native language
2022-01-23 21:48
2 replies
learn English ffs
2022-01-23 21:56
1 reply
You are on crack get help
2022-01-23 22:50
flag flair name. i remember you crying when astralis destroyed heroic.
2022-01-23 15:18
1 reply
I just like the flag I support the danish teams
2022-01-23 15:21
Well they are surely more sneaky than acuma
2022-01-23 15:10
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yeah gotta hand it to em if theyre cheating.
2022-02-07 13:12
#4
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United States qoietsammy
No. Funspark doesn't show player cams during rounds. But a lot of CT calls are sus af and floppy just said that the tournament doesn't have anti-cheat. There's no evidence though, and entropiq playing like shit today unfortunately. Fuck
2022-01-23 15:10
23 replies
everything checks out
2022-01-23 15:12
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#24
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United States qoietsammy
bro i literally said that we played like shit today anyways
2022-01-23 15:13
21 replies
sus calls? birdfromsky has always been known as a really good IGL just didn't have the team/players to show how good he is. they grind their way playing the most maps last year to top 20 just like how Entropiq did and they start calling them cheaters?
2022-01-23 15:15
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#40
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United States qoietsammy
there's a difference between being a good igl and 5-stacking a bombsite in a buy round over no info or 1 smoke . . . multiple times
2022-01-23 15:17
8 replies
multiple times? just once and they read them coz they can tell they are tilted. sstop being an idiot
2022-01-23 15:19
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#54
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Mauritius Parasyte
Tf is that explanation
2022-01-23 15:40
3 replies
so you are shocked that people 5 stack on Ancient? that's like most of the rounds since they all rush one site
2022-01-23 15:41
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#65
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Mauritius Parasyte
"they read them coz they can tell they are tilted."
2022-01-23 15:46
1 reply
yes they were. just like how birdfromsky got tilted at the end and started peeking into lack1's awp at the end
2022-01-23 15:49
show me any round where they 5-stacked with no info LMFAO it's insane how much u silvers are crying
2022-01-23 16:00
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#74
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United States qoietsammy
there were already multiple threads with pictures shut up mad bettor
2022-01-23 16:01
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with pictures? i'm not a bettor and i'm certainly not mad just laughing at all you silver bots crying without the ability to back up ur insane takes about anything. 5 sTaCk wItH nO iNfO iN sEvErAl rOuNdS. Literally didnt happen in any round but keep crying
2022-01-23 16:02
i get what you're saying but "birdfromsky has always been known as a really good IGL" is just straight up wrong bro ngl
2022-01-23 15:52
9 replies
he has been respected in danish CS. 'really good' is an exaggeration but he is a well respected IGL in danish CS and has been doing it for a long time just hasn't had the team to show his skill. ffs you are from denmark why u wanna shit on the guy?
2022-01-23 15:56
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#84
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Denmark Zodiacal
He is on a team rn ranked among the world maybe 250 best players at the moment so think he can be considered a really good igl I think ecstatic has played quite strange in the past months, have been thinking it was because of different priorities in tournaments and that the roster was moving away from Lyngby Vikings
2022-01-23 16:26
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they have been inconsistent since the switch to Ecstatic but the talent has always been there. and they are always fun to watch and have good comms
2022-01-23 16:32
Its not about shitting on the guy at all. He is a good igl in the tier 2 scene but he is like the 8th best igl in denmark, so i wouldn't categorize him as someone who "has always been known as a really good igl".
2022-01-23 16:27
5 replies
8th? name the other 7 guys better
2022-01-23 16:32
4 replies
In no specific order Gla1ve Karrigan Cadian AcilioN Snappi Msl Hooxi
2022-01-23 17:09
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msl OMEGALUL. he is washed. we will wait and see what apeks do with Acilion
2022-01-23 17:16
2 replies
Not going to argue with an incompetent hltv user who slings around the classic "didnt manage to do anything with a dysfunctional team for a year? MEGA WASHED!! But this guy who won 2 matches in a tier 2 tournament once is a REALLY GOOD IGL compared to the rest of the danish igls who has won tournaments and played regularly vs tier 1 opposition" As for acilion it's quite obvious that he's a good igl who can put up decent numbers in high pressure matches while maintaining a tactical level.
2022-01-23 18:15
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Hoo Xi +5000 social credit points
2022-01-23 19:52
ive never heard of birdfromsky until late 2021
2022-02-07 13:13
#5
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Europe Ex0dus_
That might mean that they are not cheating
2022-01-23 15:10
#6
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CIS TheBigSAM
Oh, you wait until this Funspark finals end, we will see plenty. These guys were allegedly matchfixing under previous tag and now have perfect gamesense across the board, Just wait for a bit
2022-01-23 15:10
WHO ARE THESE?
2022-01-23 15:11
#10
El1an | 
Malaysia LonT
Idk , but we'll see...
2022-01-23 15:11
there's as much evidence as the leaf and xeppa cheating accusations
2022-01-23 15:11
12 replies
which equals to none
2022-01-23 15:11
1 reply
exactly
2022-01-23 15:12
#13
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Korea Axiotimos
then it means its not enough?
2022-01-23 15:12
9 replies
2022-01-23 15:12
there is no evidence only people calling shit because of salt, not taking sides they might be but there is 0 proof
2022-01-23 15:13
7 replies
#57
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Mauritius Parasyte
I mean it's 4 players from 4 different team that are calling them cheaters I don't see pro like that often
2022-01-23 15:42
4 replies
still no proof
2022-01-23 15:42
2 replies
#61
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Mauritius Parasyte
You are right but calling them salty is dumb since they said stuff like that only against ecstatic
2022-01-23 15:44
1 reply
still salty, ur a pro player act like it and dont go around being a baby untill u have proof.
2022-01-23 15:45
flusha moment
2022-01-23 19:52
Tabsen didn't have any reason to weigh in, yet he did
2022-01-23 16:17
1 reply
fair enough tabsen respectable
2022-01-23 16:17
No.
2022-01-23 15:12
there is any proof?
2022-01-23 15:12
we'll see
2022-01-23 15:12
there will never be proof lol... just look at akuma, where is the proof? only speculations.
2022-01-23 15:13
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#34
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Korea Axiotimos
but on Akuma, the things were very obvious you know. the player cams, ridiculous plays, etc... i was wondering if the accusation on ECSTATIC is as plausible as that on Akuma.
2022-01-23 15:16
4 replies
its obvious because everyone are already accusing them of hacking, hence everything they do will be 'obvious', hell, the same shit happened to ropz before as well
2022-01-23 15:19
3 replies
+ literally all cis teams accused them + shady manager or whatever it was with betting and match fixing + they disbanded soon after + they didnt make any notable result as a team since than + none of them made any notable result with any other team since then
2022-01-23 19:38
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+1
2022-01-23 23:09
yes, thank you for proving my point. accusation after accusation after accusation after accusations
2022-01-24 09:06
There can never be proof unless they admit it But there was a lot of evidence to say akuma were cheating
2022-01-23 15:41
#27
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Germany Gabbah
Okay ngl I have NEVER seen such a bot like birdfromsky, who was literally full sprinting in the beginning of the round through the monster smoke without any flash, do such godlike reads and pull of stacks and high risk plays this consistently. It is absolutly absurd on how much bs this series is in my opinion. Pushes without flashes, when no enemies are there, insane ulility usage at the right time. Lets not forget they got shit on in the first series, only making Vertigo kind of close. This feels so hard like some kind of cheating.
2022-01-23 15:13
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#36
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Kuwait seca34958
they can't cheat, the tournament is using VAC!
2022-01-23 15:15
If u change "bridfromsky" to "karrigan", ur comment will still be correct. It doesn't prove that birdfromsky is cheating.
2022-01-23 15:19
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#47
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Germany Gabbah
by all respect FaZe tactics atm is shit to what birdfromsky calls atm considering the CT-Sides he has been putting out. Also karrigan approved t1 caller, birdfromsky idk what tier this even is. I mean the guy is loosing to teams like Dignitas 0:2 and winning against entropiq? I call bs on that
2022-01-23 15:25
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#48
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Korea Axiotimos
not winning anymore tho xD
2022-01-23 15:27
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#52
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Germany Gabbah
Their T-side is dogshit, which makes it even more suspicious, consdiering how insane all of their CT-sides have looked. You dont just go from god to bot from changing sides and on every map played aswell. Especially the last two force buys before overtime? Bad call considering you would have had a full buy if you didnt force, but no they force two times, and nearly lost because of that. Considering the godlike calls on CT-side this is just so weird and seems off
2022-01-23 15:36
No, there is no 100% evidence. Even flusha's cheating seemed way more possible.
2022-01-23 15:14
#29
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Brazil Vicmar
We'll get answers on lan
2022-01-23 15:14
Ofc not
2022-01-23 15:14
I think after this tournament some people will create videos with evidences of radarhacking
2022-01-23 15:14
akuma players weren't even trying to hide it tbh, they literally abused the radar. As for ecstatic it's not confirmed but I'm pretty suspicious myself, they legit have great t3 players but not good enough for their results, I'm leaning towards birdfromsky having a radar and calling based on that but the case is not even close to akuma, only suspicions, nothing else, no proves at all
2022-01-23 15:14
#33
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Germany KimpaVita
You can’t find another video of ecstasic because they haven’t won against navi
2022-01-23 15:14
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because they can't even get close to tours that navi play lol
2022-01-23 19:56
#38
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Germany TrTafitson
Just watching the last map of ecstatic - entropiq ive got to say some plays smelled a bit fishy. But it does not seem as obvious to me as Akuma, so yeah idk
2022-01-23 15:16
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#41
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Germany TrTafitson
It might be getting obvious in a couple of rounds, when the game starts getting close and the calls suddenly get godlike again, though
2022-01-23 15:17
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#53
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Germany TrTafitson
So looking at it after the game: Either they were too scared to turn their hacks back on after half time, or (more probable imo) they actually didnt cheat at all, because calls went to absolute shit after the half time break.
2022-01-23 15:40
I remember that they interested me after doing such an uncommon, but perfect read as planting for heaven on overpass and playing afterplant in heaven even though they had completely no info if I remember correctly.
2022-01-23 15:45
#39
Jame | 
France masnoi
birdfromsky is a tactial genius. He is best known for his signature tactic „going B, but then turn on radar hack and go A”
2022-01-23 15:16
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#49
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Palestine llihxelF
xaxaxaxaxa
2022-01-23 15:28
#51
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Finland Sk1reh
top 3 igl 4 sure
2022-01-23 15:30
#50
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Canada Bannasad
idk but they did get really good really suddenly, and their reads have been better recently than when they were lyngby vikings
2022-01-23 15:30
just weak teams and their fans crying when they get beat by godfromsky
2022-01-23 15:43
#60
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There is no evidence to suggest cheating but as always, it will remain a possibility. May I know why there is cheating claims against ECSTATIC?
2022-01-23 15:44
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#64
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Greece RedWinter
tier 2 cis teams are known for crying after getting beat even though they make millions by matchfixing themselves, k23 and unique against ecstatic, forze and entropiq against fiend etc etc
2022-01-23 15:45
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#66
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Ah - fair enough then. So it's assumed match-fixing then, which explains the comeback even though comebacks themselves are not really evident of match-fixing, it's just because of the tournament.
2022-01-23 15:47
#67
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Canada Pyxelated
if you accuse these guys of cheating just because norber says they are, you're braindead. As far as I'm concerned there isn't any sufficient evidence out there. The fact that norber is even calling these guys out is ridiculous. Imagine being so focused on how your opponent is playing vs how you are that you start calling them cheaters instead of focusing on what you could've done better. Unacceptable behavior for a pro. Focus on what you could've done better and move on. I don't give a shit if they actually are cheating, it should never impact your ability to do your best which it clearly did by his remarks on twitter.
2022-01-23 15:49
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#130
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Other 88MPH
Many people accused birdfromsky before n0rber7. hltv.org/forums/threads/2574744/is-ecsta..
2022-01-23 23:23
Accusing teams and players of cheating without a shred of evidence is so fucking disgusting...
2022-01-23 15:51
It's hillarious that all the accusations come from the most skechy russian players who have the shadiest history ever suddenly showing up after the scene went online. Don't forget EntroPIGS have 2 former Hard Legions players LMFAO
2022-01-23 16:03
#81
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United States cmohr
Doesnt Zipel co-own this team?? I dont think he would allow cheating, and I think he definitely would know if they were cheating
2022-01-23 16:14
this is a new situation thats popped up so you won't find any yt videos rn
2022-01-23 17:18
no birdfromsky god
2022-01-23 17:40
i have been watching this team for a while now because wolfY technically reps NA lol. birdfromsky is not cheating he just plays like a crazy person. you will see as this gets better and makes it to LAN
2022-01-23 18:23
Back in a Day innocent until proven guilty, now guilty until you record an emotional video with an explanation
2022-01-23 18:32
K322 is just as sus as ecstatic, tier 2 CS is a mess in a whole, some teams use hacks some teams match fix
2022-01-23 18:35
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matchfixing is reasonable in their case since 98% of them will stay tier2 if won't drop to t3. can't make much money from winning lootbet cups.
2022-01-23 20:00
#97
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Germany mrzxea_cs
Its very hard to cheat nowadays. After the Akuma incident Im sure it became even harder. And with hard I dont mean its hard to cheat but its hard to hide it because teamspeak is being recorded and often the players need to record their screen with a camera.
2022-01-23 18:39
birdfromsky has been having these performances for a while now, hes just getting the best out of his team finally i dont think hes cheating, hes just a really smart and experienced player
2022-01-23 18:41
nah, innocent until proven guilty people is jsut crying
2022-01-23 18:42
No it's cope from k23 typical clusterfuck headshotter CIS team, they see a structured team and think they're cheating.
2022-01-23 18:42
1 reply
> structured team > T side on Ancient vs Entropiq xD
2022-01-23 18:52
No they doesnt
2022-01-23 19:46
#110
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Asia La3aya
Is ECSTATIC (or birdfromsky) cheating? No, i dont see any godlike shit here. Just some good form and good days from team mate
2022-01-23 20:07
#114
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Denmark Mursten
Ofc they're not cheating. It's just the russian fans being mentally retarded
2022-01-23 20:31
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#125
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Other 88MPH
-2 of birdfromsky's ex teammates -n0rber7 -floppy -w1nt3r -waterfallz -nickelback -some forze players -some finest players I'm not saying birdfromsky is cheating but these accusations are not coming from fans and mad bettors.
2022-01-23 23:09
Sure they are
2022-01-23 22:51
no proof
2022-01-23 22:52
#122
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Spain Nepomu
I mean it’s not the first time people complain about them but not many proof
2022-01-23 22:52
2 replies
There is no proof at all. The only thing people have on birdfromsky is that he makes this stack calls on Ancient. But that may just be a good gamble by him
2022-01-23 22:58
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#129
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Other 88MPH
But how would YOU prove that birdy is using a radar hack? You couldn't. These gambles are impressing a lot of people. hltv.org/forums/threads/2574744/is-ecsta..
2022-01-23 23:14
#124
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United States EthanPro
YES YES YES YES
2022-01-23 23:01
There is no proof. People don't learn with chaos' situation.
2022-01-23 23:07
I do not say they are cheating but that is why LAN is 5times more important then online cs.
2022-01-23 23:08
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