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Perfect developer for CS:GO?
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Vietnam andy_ 
if you could pick a developer for CS:GO, would you stay with Valve that does absolutely nothing except for cash grabbing, or something else?
2022-01-23 19:51
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2022-01-23 19:52
#2
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Brazil NotJuan
Riot Games
2022-01-23 19:52
42 replies
no
2022-01-23 20:03
kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-01-23 20:03
#23
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Russia avvakum
just because they understand how many cheaters there are in a free cs-like game i would also pick them
2022-01-23 20:04
35 replies
but can't make a game without cheaters lul
2022-01-23 20:08
34 replies
I mean, I’ve played with a single cheater over the course of 18 months of Valorant.
2022-01-23 20:31
8 replies
would say about the same for csgo, whats ur point
2022-01-24 05:35
7 replies
I play Valo probably 5x as much as CS now, and I’ve seen more cheaters in CS over that span
2022-01-24 05:47
Do you people who never see a cheater in CSGO (lol) think anyone who's not spinbotting with an auto in spawn isn't cheating?
2022-01-24 06:26
5 replies
I'll be honest, haven't seen a cheater in quite some time (a few months). I think most people who encounter cheaters probably have low trust factors. Mine is insanely good. Also, Riot as dev -- probably not. If you know anything about Riot games, whenever they introduce something, it's broken as hell to entice people to buy it then nerf it to the ground. Valve does a great job actually, super unappreciated.
2022-01-24 06:32
3 replies
Trust factor makes solo queue basically impossible. High chance your teammates will be incompetent. So you need to carry and if you do you'll get reported by the other team and it'll lower your trust. There's a good chance your opponents will be queued up or even worse queued up cheaters. Your teammates will often have no emotional control and will rage at you even if you're carrying. Trust only works for you if you have a 4 or 5 stack, and are a middle of the road player and avoid reports. Most people have very different experiences.
2022-01-24 06:38
2 replies
I only play solo queue lol. All my teammates have been very competent, even apologizing for toxicity. I don't do anything special either. I've never bought skins, don't have other games besides CS:GO. Somehow I have insanely good teammates.
2022-01-24 06:57
1 reply
I guess you're just lucky. I'm not. And since you don't do anything special (since you don't have to), you avoid reports and improve your trust.
2022-01-24 06:57
I haven't run into many unreasonably suspicious players either. And frankly, if I can't tell they're cheating, I don't really care. It's basically the same from my perspective; I die to something who was faster or in a better position. It only becomes frustrating if it becomes unreasonable. E: In fact, according to csgostats, I've only played with 11 vac/ow banned accounts since September of 2020. Obviously neither systems are great, but it's still not a bad benchmark imo.
2022-01-24 06:52
#67
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Russia avvakum
can u? can anyone? no but can you make it so i dont get cheaters every 3-4 games in wingman and then lose my rank because some edgy kid plays deagle autofire+autostop semirage? definitely
2022-01-23 21:14
24 replies
I use Trusted in CSGO and have in 100 matches 0,02 cheaters. Maybe don't be toxic then trusted works for you as well.
2022-01-23 21:15
23 replies
#71
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Russia avvakum
yeah sure, im just toxic u know i have literally never shat on anyone in matchmaking/wingman, yet i get regularly reported for idk, 10 kills a wingman game. after those games it is just hell. i remember i got literally into a hvh match with 3/4 players cheating right after two lucky games. I dont like it. I dont understand why you can't just SOMETIMES be good at this game (comparing to your rank)
2022-01-23 21:19
#79
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Russia avvakum
I've just got deranked from global wingman because of cheater. i never shoot my teammates. I don't talk in voicechat. I only write damage and stuff like gj/nt in chat + some info when necessary. I often carry the game (70-80% of games). I sometimes commend effort of my teammates, even if they are struggling, even if we lose (i really do not care about ranks, just winning/having fun). I have somewhat of an inventory (~30-40 EUR). If I don't look like a legitimate player with good intentions then who the fuck do i look like. I'm fucking sick of it. Every time you get that idiot with a blank account with loyalty badge. then its your fucking fault that those idiots abuse TF system/you get your TF decreased due to your own fault. Every time its me guilty, me whos done stuff wrong. I just want to play CS and have 3 other players be at least fair players.
2022-01-23 21:30
9 replies
Who plays wingman lmao
2022-01-23 21:35
8 replies
#84
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Russia avvakum
the one whos not ready to spend 30+ mins to play a match? whatever
2022-01-23 21:36
7 replies
Play short mm. It's better.
2022-01-23 21:38
6 replies
#88
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Russia avvakum
not for me sorry short mm has more newbs than regular mm (i am global)
2022-01-23 21:50
5 replies
xddddddddddddddddddddddddd (i am global)
2022-01-23 23:24
4 replies
#114
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Russia avvakum
what rank is for context and people do do stupid shit there
2022-01-24 00:20
3 replies
oh okay (i am global)
2022-01-24 14:54
2 replies
#174
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Russia avvakum
this info does not give me any reference as you have not provided any feedback on mm experience
2022-01-24 15:08
1 reply
hmm maybe (i am global)
2022-01-24 15:08
toxicity doesn't affect trust lol
2022-01-23 21:43
10 replies
It does if you get reported.
2022-01-23 21:52
6 replies
not for being toxic. I've had many grief cooldowns and many automutes on one account, and I still never went in red trust on it because of these things.
2022-01-23 21:53
5 replies
Truth is nobody knows how it works. Nobody knows how anything valve does or makes works
2022-01-23 21:58
2 replies
i defo went red trust because of having a cheat on my pc. but it seems to be going away because i played about 30 games without getting reported much, so thats that. play regularly, dont get reported = good trust
2022-01-23 22:00
Valve have stated toxicity has nothing to do with it.
2022-01-24 06:02
#168
juho | 
Congo, Democratic Republic of nUgez
wow toxic and british. im so suprised:DD
2022-01-24 10:49
1 reply
it's not my problem that dudes who are toxic can't handle it back to them.
2022-01-24 10:50
neither of you have any idea what affects trust, because Valve has literally released no information on how it works.
2022-01-23 23:29
2 replies
i can only go off my personal experiences, like everybody else. #90
2022-01-24 00:19
2022-01-24 06:02
i can agree with u, same with me
2022-01-24 02:04
XDD
2022-01-23 20:23
hahaha not in a million years
2022-01-23 21:31
#121
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Europe Y1J1NG
+1
2022-01-24 00:43
8/8
2022-01-24 15:09
Icefrog
2022-01-23 19:53
in some way its good that we have valve, because if there was another developer we would get balance and meta updates every 2 months but then again we are not getting important things like a good anticheat etc
2022-01-23 19:54
honestly riot.
2022-01-23 19:55
#6
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Hands down I would choose Volvo over activision or ea
2022-01-23 19:55
30 replies
#7
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Vietnam andy_
Valve = EA, both of them do it all for money
2022-01-23 19:57
29 replies
#9
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Wales I_like_csgo
Valve haven't introduced pay to win elements into their games yet
2022-01-23 19:58
12 replies
#29
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Vietnam andy_
keyword: yet But releasing cases, operations and no actual content or proper anticheat just shows that they look at the game as a source of money and nothing else
2022-01-23 20:11
7 replies
What makes you think that they'd ever introduce pay2win elements?
2022-01-23 20:12
6 replies
#53
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Vietnam andy_
They like money
2022-01-23 20:25
5 replies
pay2win doesn't make you money if you lose your whole playerbase from it.
2022-01-23 20:26
3 replies
+1 valve aren't dumb
2022-01-23 20:30
2 replies
#94
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Other KittyVN
valve are actually super smart thats why they have such a loyal audience and they make a shit ton of money
2022-01-23 22:03
+1 they are greedy af but not dumb. They dropped paid mods for skyrim etc. pretty quick after they saw how much people hated that change. Prolly learned their lesson from that.
2022-01-24 07:20
valve make billions off steam its not worth risking your reputation for the fraction of profit p2w could potentially bring
2022-01-24 06:04
agents are somewhat pay to win but true
2022-01-23 20:12
3 replies
That was unintended though and they've made several efforts afterwards to eleviate the visibility issues. Also you can see that with their newer agents, they tend to make them more colorful and more visible
2022-01-23 20:13
At this point a lot of the agents are pay to lose. They updated a lot of the areas where they could blend in and all the new agents are either more visible because of colors or have larger models and stick out of angles more
2022-01-23 21:20
agents are stupid but they're not really p2w compared to lootboxes/buying upgrades etc
2022-01-24 06:05
#10
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
At least you can play Volvo games without donating hundreds of dollars onto a game. Ea is way worst when it comes to micro transactions
2022-01-23 19:58
5 replies
But the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.
2022-01-23 20:12
4 replies
#40
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
I get this point, but guess what. Not many people give a shit if they don’t own one or more characters. Unless those characters affect gameplay, like in fifa, this argument is useless. If it does affect, then it’s straight up pay2win
2022-01-23 20:14
3 replies
I was joking and referencing a quote from an EA employee
2022-01-23 20:15
2 replies
#45
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Oh, my bad. Didn’t mean to go for a rant or to be mean. I’m just annoyed as fuck when it comes to game companies in general. I don’t think I can say right now, that there is a single game company that I genuinely like. All of them are either making trash games, destroy games, or have internal problems
2022-01-23 20:18
1 reply
#120
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Lithuania arres
Sad but mostly true. There are couple hidden gems in a big pile of shit tho
2022-01-24 00:39
Actually, if Valve would do it for the money they would more be like EA and Blizzard. And that isn't the case
2022-01-23 20:15
2 replies
#123
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Lithuania arres
Valve do not even make any games anymore. If you do not count hl alyx, their last significant game was dota 2 in 2013
2022-01-24 00:54
that's some hard ass fucking copium you got there man. Valve is better than most of the twats around in the game industry but they're not great either. youtube.com/watch?v=edIFFm12AOQ valve no longer want to develop games they just wanna milk more money so they push their creative talent aside
2022-01-24 00:59
like every company?
2022-01-23 20:23
2 replies
#57
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Vietnam andy_
Riot at least pretends to put effort for that money, so they care not only about money but also about their product itself
2022-01-23 20:29
1 reply
#95
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Other KittyVN
good joke
2022-01-23 22:03
That's what companies are for
2022-01-23 21:24
Except valve develop linux gaming, portable gaming and provide u best game service,
2022-01-24 00:37
1 reply
#133
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Vietnam andy_
2022-01-24 01:53
#153
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North America 007DBR9
valve are way too hands off to become a monthy patch pay to win game dev
2022-01-24 06:49
Activision now that Microsoft owns it. They produce the best software
2022-01-23 19:57
7 replies
like Edge Browser Pepega
2022-01-23 20:18
4 replies
Or Microsoft store lmao
2022-01-23 21:55
It's a very good browser
2022-01-24 05:29
Edge is mostly a chromium reskin, so the same as chrome.
2022-01-24 07:22
1 reply
Cuz they failed their own work.
2022-01-24 10:19
they produce some of the worst games too
2022-01-23 23:19
1 reply
Warcraft 3 Refunded LUL
2022-01-24 07:22
Yes I'd stay with Valve because I like the game as it is and with any other developer there'd be a risk that they fuck it up trying to "improve" it
2022-01-23 20:00
11 replies
+1 so many people don't realize that valve not doing much is actually a blessing. staying true to its roots is important for the legacy of a game.
2022-01-23 20:01
3 replies
#19
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Doing nothing is not a blessing, but I agree than rather than making useless changes, doing nothing is a better option. There are things that can be improved in cs, but volve either too busy or lazy(probably this)
2022-01-23 20:03
2 replies
yeah that's what i mean. other developers just make changes for the sake of it or to grab even more money, so it's better the way it is with valve. just look at blizzard ruining WoW so much that they have to release a classic version of their game because too many people can't stand the shit anymore they threw at them over the years lmao, ultimate humiliation.
2022-01-23 20:12
1 reply
#44
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Not a wow player myself, but I genuinely felt sad for wow players. Activision blizzard, at least before takeover, is known for destroying games that work perfectly fine. We have already spoken about wow, but look at cod, that new map and changes pretty much killed the game. HS, that is straight up casino.
2022-01-23 20:16
Game is already fucked up by Valve. 3rd party services like FaceIt/Esportal/GamerClub and "legendary game" status are the only things that still make cs popular.
2022-01-23 20:23
6 replies
What makes cs popular is that it is the best game in its genre
2022-01-23 20:24
4 replies
Because there are only too games in this genre: CS GO and Val*rant (basically CS GO but with cartoonish graphics). Not that hard to be best game in genre when there are no other competitors.
2022-01-23 20:33
2 replies
There is a lot more competitors in the genre, they just couldn't get past csgo and didn't have the marketing power of Riot.
2022-01-23 20:36
1 reply
+1 the only relevent ones are csgo and valulrant
2022-01-24 00:47
#96
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Other KittyVN
yeah i have played so many shooters but not even one of them comes even close to csgo. I couldnt imagine playing any other shooter for 1000+ hours
2022-01-23 22:05
Those platforms get less traffic than Valve's MM'ing servers.
2022-01-24 01:15
#12
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Greece Noocklas
volvo still, just buy new developers
2022-01-23 20:00
Stay with volvo. Riot will make the game like anime and shite. Activision will probably release a new cs franchise every two weeks. EA will add drop boxes with agents which are p2w. The game is so good that it doesn't anyone.
2022-01-23 20:00
#14
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Finland notits
Facepunch studios
2022-01-23 20:01
Valve no doubt
2022-01-23 20:02
valve.
2022-01-23 20:03
Dani
2022-01-23 20:04
1 reply
#125
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Netherlands joostlek
Today we introduced a new item. For 400$ you can now buy milk at the utility section of the store. With this milk, your bones will become invincible for 20 seconds. We also introduced a bat so you can hit billy instead of your willy.
2022-01-24 01:11
Valve. Game is in a perfect shape, except anti-cheat, but no one would play regular MM anyways. So why complain? Enjoy before it's too late.
2022-01-23 20:04
11 replies
perfect shape lel
2022-01-23 20:10
10 replies
yes, perfect shape
2022-01-23 20:11
9 replies
- disgusting peekers advantage with high ping - less fps every update - big cheater issues since 10 years -overpowered awp - destroyed wallbanging complete - movement worse than source and 1.6 -burst not fixed since 10 years -buggy molotow ---PERFECT SHAPE
2022-01-23 20:17
8 replies
Peelers advantage cannot be fixed for a competitive game without extrapolation, which is terrible for a competitive game. Less FPS with updates is normal for games. How is burst broken? You gotta be a silver to think awps are op.
2022-01-23 23:25
5 replies
i have 3.7 k elo and play cs since 2002 pls shut the fuck up and dont talk with me about cs kid
2022-01-24 00:26
4 replies
People complain in Valorant about peekers advantage.. as the other user said that isn't a CS:GO problem. Hence why the best try to play on lan. Other user mentioned about FPS Cheaters is a big issue for Valve (not so much on ESEA/faceit as they get caught) so I will give you that Yes the AWP is overpowered but not in the sense it makes the game unfair.. at least in a competent competitive environment. If half the team on a CASUAL server has the AWP.. yes, that's quite toxic. If 1-2 guys have it in a MM"ing game, as long as you and your teammates are competent that shouldn't be a problem. How often are you playing people who are the equivalent to Simple in your ranks? Wallbanging is still there? You just can't spam areas that logically shouldn't be able to be spammed. I love 1.6 but that feature belongs in that game. Watching people default into spam spots isn't exactly viewer friendly to people with no CS knowledge. Not sure how you can say the movement is worse than Source.. pretty much an opinion anyway. As for 1.6... the games are on different engines so stop comparing things that can't be compared. Burst? I honestly find bursting with the famas fine and the glocks burst is good enough at super close range. Don't think it should be used for anything further. Buggy molotov? As in.. random spread?
2022-01-24 01:26
3 replies
i got cancer when i read this silvershit
2022-01-24 01:34
lol it's pretty much fact that csgo movement sucks in comparison, funny how all the movement gamemodes (surf, kz, bhop) need to use plugins + cvars to replicate css settings to make them somewhat enjoyable and how bhop + surf are more competitive on source than csgo
2022-01-24 06:08
#147
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Uzbekistan R_Sick
Someone with sound reasoning, ignore that Jerman baiter
2022-01-24 06:13
Movement is way better than source,you just have poor taste and understanding
2022-01-24 07:27
1 reply
u never played cs 1.6 i guess
2022-01-24 13:37
#24
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United States cmohr
CSGO devs are fine. We've had like 3 operations in the past 2 years along with plenty of updates from a small dev team. What more do you want? All developers are "cash grabbers", they dont make games for free.
2022-01-23 20:04
4 replies
#35
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Vietnam andy_
Small dev team haha 10 minutes of people buying cases could fund thousands of developers for this game
2022-01-23 20:12
2 replies
#74
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Spain Kyuuta
still, theres like 17 people at valve working in game development, and they can choose to work on whatever project they want, so maybe 3-4 devs in cs
2022-01-23 21:21
1 reply
#97
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Other KittyVN
yeah its so funny how big valve as a company is but then their game studio is like an indie studio xD
2022-01-23 22:07
Yea, the hate at Valve has been pretty unwarranted for the most part. At least in that 2 year time frame you mentioned. Their operations could be better but I doubt they have someone who only thinks about the kind of content that goes into the Operation as that kind of stuff takes a lot of time and effort. In the end it gives everyone something to do each week and unless you are plain unlucky you should be able to make at least your money back by using your stars.
2022-01-24 01:32
the ones who made left 4 dead 2 ... so still valve, but from 10y ago
2022-01-23 20:06
2 replies
btw skip through this video to see how much were valve ahead of their time back in late 2000s youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8
2022-01-23 20:14
So valve from when they first made cs go
2022-01-23 21:21
EA games
2022-01-23 20:08
1 reply
challenge everything
2022-01-23 20:11
Obviously stay with Volvo lmao.
2022-01-23 20:12
#47
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Russia heha
Valve better than any others
2022-01-23 20:19
#52
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Russia Aleksgri
I love csgo the way it is, so I would stay with Valve
2022-01-23 20:25
I think Rockstar Games is the best out there. Yes, they take a lot of time, but their end products are flawless. With csgo, I don't think they should be the one bcz of the nature of the game.
2022-01-23 20:25
5 replies
A lot of time: 57 lifetimes of waiting for gta 6. But you’re right that their end products are amazing
2022-01-23 21:21
2 replies
Yeah good but never good for the gunplay lol
2022-01-23 23:17
Seriously, GTA 5 came out in 2013. Atleast they should have given an official statement about gta 6 by now. Also looking forward to the next red dead game.
2022-01-24 05:30
#98
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Other KittyVN
gta remaster wants to talk about this
2022-01-23 22:08
1 reply
I don't like the definitive edition. I haven't played it, but based on the YT videos I don't like it. There are GTA 5 mods that are way better than the definitive edition. But really looking forward to GTA 6 now that unreal engine 5 is out.
2022-01-24 05:27
Anyone that isn't ea or acti. Valve neglect the fuck out of cs and have since they picked it up. Any dev with a good track record would be better for the game. Valve is dogshit in general especially since they stopped developing new pc games.
2022-01-23 20:27
2 replies
they did Half-Life VR 2 years ago... They did artifact (but was a fail) and Dota Underlords
2022-01-23 21:18
1 reply
vr is not a pc game. not really anyway plus they abandoned underlords a year ago. it clearly wasnt the quality that used to come from valve
2022-01-24 01:28
#58
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France PaulST2
Myself I just need to learn C++
2022-01-23 20:29
Epic Games Riot is good, but Epic is better
2022-01-23 20:32
1 reply
Epic james best, I want Spiderman skin in Csgo
2022-01-24 06:55
Valve is a great developer, but they don’t want to do their job, they just wanna sit there and rake in the cash from crates and keys.
2022-01-23 20:32
1 reply
#102
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Vietnam andy_
probably the best comment in this whole thread, well written
2022-01-23 23:12
#64
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Germany MTD3
Capcom (Monster Hunter devs)
2022-01-23 20:34
Gaijin without a doubt.
2022-01-23 20:34
2 replies
Literally the only company other than EA and GW that could make csgo even more money hungry, probably even pay to win.
2022-01-23 23:15
1 reply
Yea as an oldtime war thunder player I fully agree.
2022-01-24 17:11
#69
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China RADNIKEY
All developers are bad in their own ways do Valve works fine because we at least know what we’re going to get
2022-01-23 21:15
1 reply
#99
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Other KittyVN
+1
2022-01-23 22:09
Valve is the only company that hasn't abandoned Linux users unlike Riot or Ubisoft. They also actively support the open-source community, And with Vulkan support coming soon to CSGO, we will have to rely even less on Microsoft's proprietary DirectX API. The Proton-compatibility layer is another thing. I wouldn't want an Anticheat as intrusive as Riot's Vanguard on my system, so i am fine with VAC or maybe something slightly better that runs on the System level rather than Kernel level.
2022-01-23 21:22
5 replies
#100
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Other KittyVN
+1
2022-01-23 22:09
#101
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Vietnam andy_
who tf uses linux in 2022
2022-01-23 23:12
3 replies
It's not about Linux only, valve make huge impact into pc game technology's. Furthermore Linux much better than Linux, everyone know that. If not for the stupid faceit, I would have been sitting on arch linux as the main system for a long time already. I will never install Windows on a laptop.
2022-01-24 02:01
Yeah for real, I feel like Linux was growing in mid to mid-late 2010's. I don't really think too many people are using it outside of programming and business applications.
2022-01-24 06:28
1 reply
You can't run .exe files on linux?
2022-01-24 07:29
#80
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Finland KieZuZ
The GD studios
2022-01-23 21:32
valve.
2022-01-23 21:32
1 reply
People really underestimate how good valve games are. the best example of this is like Left for dead compared to that god awful "back for blood" game that was released recently that is complete and utter garbage with no polish to it.
2022-01-23 23:14
#87
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Serbia PinkiPaj
rockstar games
2022-01-23 21:46
1 reply
#117
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Poland brochu
you kill 1 ct and you get 5 stars for the rest of the match, no ty
2022-01-24 00:29
The people that made 7 days to die, cuz they are dedicated as fuck to their game and work on it around the clock.
2022-01-23 23:13
#110
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Finland Kashmiir
Starcraft 2 devs. Game idea its garbage but SO MUCH FUN, mens.
2022-01-23 23:26
Literally anyone would do this game better justice. Just sell the rights to Faceit
2022-01-23 23:38
Treyarch
2022-01-24 00:33
The fact valve leave it alone is great.
2022-01-24 01:13
1 reply
+1 if it ain't broke, don't fix it
2022-01-24 07:31
#130
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Germany mrzxea_cs
I think Valve is fine. It could be much worse. Also imo the cash grabbing isnt that much compared to other games. Skins etc. are completly optional and dont do shit in this game but since the market for them became so big its only logic that Valve try to profit from that. As long as they release some bangers like Half life Alyx etc. Im fine with it.
2022-01-24 01:29
volvo 100%
2022-01-24 06:11
for getting laid and free knives/skins
2022-01-24 07:15
volvo even tho they are making lots of money.
2022-01-24 07:20
Bioware
2022-01-24 07:23
Toyota
2022-01-24 08:05
#170
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Switzerland nierg
Id take Valve as a nonprofit with an actual lead instead of everyone doing fuck all
2022-01-24 10:53
Ubisoft
2022-01-24 13:40
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