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I see they unified the American Continent as whole because brazil was stealing the spots from both SA and NA (due to the incompetence of the NA teams?). But would this revive NA Scene?
The only decent teams in NA are:
Team Liquid
Complexity
Evil Geniuses
When SA have:
FURIA
GODSENT
Last Dance
00Nation (with coldzera and malbs)
paiN
Sharks
TeamOne (with trk)
these 10 teams are the favorites to get the 6 spots. Does it save NA scene from death? Will Cloud9, NRG, CLG, 100T, Envy ever come back with a NA Roster? IMO The chances for NA still very minimal in that scenario, they will get 1 or 2 spots at very best.
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what? kkkkkkkk
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well they were not even close to their peak performance after all, it's like hiring Ronaldinho after he got out of form
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1. i agree paiN lost the hard carry
2. team one lost malbs but got trk who is very good, old 00 was sht
3. sharks... they went on last major at least
4. skeptical about 00? you even mentioned malbs yourself, and plus coldzera and try, strong team.
5. Last dance will be sht against EU, yeah i can deal with that but in Americas they are Tier 1 just like Team Liquid. At least better than new Complexity and NA dead teams for sure.
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No wag you’re putting Last Dance on Liquids level
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Last dance have no chance
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Players from FURIA, Liquid and MIBR reunited. Do you really think they have no chance for 6 spots in America? Delusional, they have more chance than Complexity, who have real chances. FalleN is the best IGL in Americas, VINI is the best support in Americas.
I agree that they are far from being favorites and there is a chance that they will be left out. But no chance to classify? in NA? you have got to be kidding me.
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no firepower
Vini and fallen only players that have potential
besides fallen and fer have a long and storied history of losing to tier 2 NA
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Only team liquid get a spot.
Brazilians will continue to take many NA spots the same way, so whatever.
6 NA spots predict:
- Furia
- Liquid
- Godsent (maybe)
- Complexity (maybe)
- 00Nation (maybe)
- EG (maybe, if Stewie2k doesnt tilt)
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I don't think I'm being optimistic, Complexity in the debut game managed to get a map out of Gambit (TOP 2 World). I don't think their lineup will do badly in NA
-Col +Last Dance pls god
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Hey, wake up
- TeamSpeak's voice
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I may be being a lunatic, but I think Last Dance (with the blessing of Jesus Christ) can beat Complexity and would make decent games against EG.
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For me the odds of The Last Dance against EG and Complexity are 25/75 in favor of EG and Complexity
nah, our heart can think that Last Dance will do something relevant, but our brain knows that it will be only sad to watch, probably
Complexity (extra salt) couldnt make it last major
And EG almost lost also
and it was against much easier competition online
On Lan we will see much different game being played
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EG has a new lineup today keeping only Brehze and Cerq, your comparison doesn't make sense... And Complexity is a favorite against Pain, Team One, ATK, The Last Dance among other NA teams outside the current list.
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Online sure complexity have advantage, but Lan is a much different game to play.
And EG has 2 players that were playing valorant a month ago.
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They said the same about Gambit and Heroic in the online era and both teams reached the semi finals of the Major in Lan, with fans. Nowadays most players have psychologists and they work the mental well so they don't play badly in Lan, don't be fooled by this that a player in Lan will play badly just for being in a Lan. they can barely see the crowd, that's if the next Major has fans depending on the pandemic situations. A professional player these days already gets it into his head that, being a pro player, he will eventually have to play on a stage for an entire crowd to see him.
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Heroic and Gambit didnt win any Lan event and didnt get to grandfinal so often anymore, G2 was way behind them in the ranks during online era but got to the final of almost every big lan event after that.
It still makes huge difference.
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Gambit reached the final of the Blast World Finals and won V4 an event in Lan, G2 did not win anything this year, both in the online and Lan era, only reached the Major final. Not to mention that at the Major Gambit lost to the champion. And we're talking about a year where NAVI was dominant... It wasn't Gambit that couldn't beat NAVI, nobody could beat NAVI
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They defeated Navi many times online before that.
Also using V4 as a example, are you joking?
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It's a trophy in Lan just as the discussion is about them playing well in Lan.
And today one is Top 2 and the other Top 5. If both were onliners, they would both be in the Top 15
Heroic and gambit even got top1 during online time
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Top 2
Top 5
Even after the end of the Online Era, an online team would not hold on to these positions.
I think at the next major the teams from Americas will be
Team Liquid
EG
Col
Furia
Godsent
00Nation
the next 2 teams in line that I don't think will make it, but have the next best chance if one of these teams fails are
Dap's Orgless
Pain
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you should've said SA have: FURIA GODSENT 00nation and 9z because lets be real these are the only promising teams and the rest is kinda meh
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9z lost they star AWPer to reunite with Coldzera and Malbs in 00Nation, so -9z +00. Other than that, paiN and Sharks went on last major using NA spots easily. Lastly, Last Dance with VINI, FalleN and boltz are promising players coming from FURIA and Liquid. TeamOne with trk is a team to watch, but ok i would remove, but not the rest.
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ok maybe the last dance works alrigh but i'll be more interested in some of the NA lineups than SA at the moment.
SA=BRAZIL lmao
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SA do not have seven good teams.
Furia are good. Godsent are decent, no more than that. The rest are pretty trash.
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they lost their star player + their igl. It looks promising on paper, but CS is not just about hitting heads.
5 SA
1 NA (Liquid)
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Pain and Sharks are garb, they got wiped from the major. Last chance is a retirement home. Team One sucks. Godsent is alright, but I dont think they will win anything in Europe, maybe get some upset wins every now and again. Only teams with a chance in SA are Furia and 00Nation, and I kinda doubt 00Nation do anything unless Try turns out to be a hard carry or VSM shows up like he did when he first joined MIBR. I think the major will have
Liquid
Complexity
EG
Furia
Godsent
00Nation (maybe)
I dont think SA is that much better than NA right now, maybe there are more good teams in SA, but at the top they're pretty much the same.
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No, I'm pretty sure these 3 NA teams will all get a spot because there's really not much of a competition from SA. Only Furia and Godsent can be compared to the 3 NA teams, but the rest aren't really even close to their level. I think It's gonna be Liquid, Evil Geniuses, Complexity, Furia for sure, and then probably Godsent and finally 00Nation, or possibly Last Dance depending on how good they will be. But I don't think the rest of the SA teams (paiN, TeamOne, etc.) have a chance to get a spot.
NA will probably be the same as now, but Asia scene will be dead (even more)
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It's for underage people only so their bigger teams won't be affected
furia and godsent are far ahead of the others, probably liquid and COL will make it too, last 2 spots between EG, last dance, 00nation, new extra salt and PA
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Furia and Godsent are the only good BR teams.
00nation new team, they might scrape by and make it though.
Liquid, CoL, Furia, Godsent, and MAYBE EG
What you're forgetting is that those 3 NA teams will be partnered for the majority of events and will have the most practice against T1. Also Orgless (Extra Salt soon) and Party Astronauts still exist which would shit on sharks and TeamOne without malbs. They will also probably be on the level of Pain and Last Dance.
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ok but party astronauts are just randoms. not even close to last major, paiN, FalleN and VINI did it easily. Vs Liquid ok, they are better, vs EG ok, debatable but Party Astrounauts? its a meme lol, even mch (retired br player) said partyastronauts player are br fans who asked autographies for him and other br players who kept saying in the match br are "speed demons" while losing. come on lmfao you are baiting.
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Party Astronauts aren't "just randoms" and so what if they are br fans?
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Brasil bestest country! Lesgo Brasil
last dance OMEGALUL
Confirmed spots:
Liquid, Furia
Likely spots:
EG, coL, 00Nation, Godsent, Last Dance
Maybe a Cinderella run, but not likely at all:
Team One, Pain, Sharks, Orgless, Party Astronauts, MIBR
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That's why I put MIBR in the unlikely tier. Should've put 9z in there too, but honestly I'm not sure how good they'll be now.
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Now you going to talk about flags? was refuted and now comes with this? Ew.... typical of people who can't see themselves wrong and go for skin color, flags or anything else to take the focus off the argument.
Party Astronauts didn't even participate the last Americas RMR because no relevance. BNB had literally 0 points in RMR. And you saying that they are in the same level with teams who actually qualified and played the major? above good teams? You are 100% baiting or know literally nothing about americas CS.
Liquid, Col, EG, Furia, 00, Last Dance
PA and Orgless are upset picks but it'll depend a lot on who they play in RMR (PA > EG if they kept Infinite). BNB is dead unfortunately. Chococheck maybe if they're VERY lucky. NA Challenger League will be a decent indicator of what to expect.
pAIN and Team One have no chance without their carries and idk what to think about GODSENT.
Sharks and MIBR have 0 chance unless everyone else forfeits
SA may have more teams on that list, but they are really inferior to the 3 main NA teams. I see furia and godsent making it, but all the others will fail at the first hurdle
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I dont have much faith in stew roster tbh
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They're the NA version of the last dance
both of them will struggle
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Yeah, i dont have faith in neither, but eg looks like a better lineup than Last dance imo
Pretty much impossible to predict since we didn't saw nor Eg, liquid, last dance and 00 nation.
The only true obvious pick is furia since we dont know the other good teams, and the others aren't super strong.
Furia is the only decent Brazilian team, every team you listed below godsent have been beaten by tier 2/3 NA teams like party astronauts and bad news bears. Not to mention coL was dominating all of them besides Furia. Liquid will show the best results, along with Furia and coL
dude
FURIA and GODSENT are good
teamone and paiN both lost their best players
stop pretending BR is good lmao
I like this change :D
Only like one of the Brazilian teams you mentioned is actually competitive with the NA teams. Teams like PA are better than half the br teams on that list. Delusional much?
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PA lmao
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