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As the title says, use the players below to create a team. No need to take "comms" into account (imagine all of them can speak English). Just make a "dream team" and your reasoning.
Kyojin
KennyS
Amanek
Sanji
Olof
JW
Flusha
Golden
Gade
MSL
Allu
Doto
Farlig
Zehn
JKS
oBo
Hen1
Lucas1
Chopper
Mir
Woro2K
Sausol
ChrisJ
Acor
Thomas
Oskar
SergeJ
Sunny
lollipop21k
h4rn
REDSTAR
v1c7oR
hAdji
Maka
Poizon
BnTeT
AZR
AdreN
Mou
P.S: I know some of these players already have new projects, but since those aren't announced yet they remain on this list. I also don't know if some of the players have moved to Valorant.
jks - good lurker
kennyS - main AWP
sergej - entry
Doto - support
suNny - IGL
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Not convinced. JKS would need to hard carry...
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It would be a Renegades 2.0
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(Yeah ok flair I know. ) Being great for over 3 out of 4 years and ending it on a bad period is not the same as "had a good period but then went back to shit"
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he was pretty bad in G2, then i remember for a period he looked like he was back to being the kenny we knew and then sadness came back.
If you look at his stats they weren't even that bad, but that's only because he was super inconsistent, he'd have games where he was a monster and then bottom frag in the next game.
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He was the 7th best player of 2017, 2018 was an off(not bad but certainly not good) year while still being the best player on the team overall, 2019 he was hard carrying the team throughout the entire year, first half of 2020 he was in contention for top 5 but then fell off hard for some reason around the player break. Only september to february (so like 4 months of his entire career) has he been a bad player
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And you seem to look at him with huge recency bias, was I wrong in anything I said?
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>gratification
>good awper
????????
kennys awp when cheater2k is on the list 0/8
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I think Flusha and Sunny already realize they don't work well together. I guess MSL is the IGL? JW the AWP?
I think this team would be like Gorillaz or South...
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I think they thought to do another project but not work out. Seems the first all project with c9 that was trash but they kinda good together tho.
Little underrated "like Gorillaz" I think maybe solid tier2 and few big tournaments? Not saying they will winning everything but seems good teampick.
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not happening
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in 2022? curious why.
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bntet
mou
obo
lucas1
jks
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Interesting. Not sure about lucas1
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Agreed. -Lucas1 +somebody else and this team is good
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actually good team. But depends if Chopper doesn't lack as an IGL.
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good team. Amanek could 2nd AWP when needed.
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oskar - AWP
JKS - Lurk
AZR - IGL
Sanji - Support
Sergej - Entry
ChrisJ - Coach
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I kinda like this team. Oskar can do calls too if needed. The only issue is Sanji's firepower. Unless you're an IGL you can't "just provide" flashes...
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true, I was kinda on the edge about adding Sanji, mainly added him just bc I like him
Sanji was good before getting support/cash bank roles, he was carrying his previous teams
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Olof was also the best player in the world at some point.
I think we should rely on recent performance. And even if Sanji usually used trash weapons, there were other things lacking about his overall gameplay.
You mean that SANJI's firepower is so high compared to other's so he would carry the team and leave others to his shadow?
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Sanji is restraining his skills so we don't have an era of domination worst than Astralis.
Decent team but I would take Amanek over sanji as support
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yeah I'd say that's probably better
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How would Kenny G music skills be used? What's his main weapon, Saxo or piano?
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what rank would he be in the top 20 hltv 2022?
chrisJ-medic
chrisJ-antivac
chrisJ-vac-rifler
chrisJ-Starawp
ChrisJ-VaccLurker
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Unfortunately, the team won't be able to play worldwide.
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at least not in australia :)
JKS (is a good player)
Allu (could definetly IGL this team)
KennyS (still one of the most talented AWPers, maybe if he gets a second chance he will train harder)
AmaneK (rifler)
Kyojin (i always thought that he never showed his full potential in Vita. He´s young and could be so much better with an IGL like Allu)
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I don't trust Allu as an IGL with another AWP...
sergej (rifler)
sunny (entry)
zehn (lurker)
MSL (igl, supportive rifler)
acor/farlig (AWP abuser)
this one uses ppl not on ur list but i like it anyway
hen1 (AWP abuser)
lucas1 (supportive rifler)
steel (igl)
marke (entry)
sonic (rifler)
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Isn't the first team a bit mid? why did you go with it?
2nd one I can't count it because steel is in Valorant.
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I forgot that man existed to be honest, lmao.
first one i restricted myself to only nordic countries so the culture gap isnt huge
second one is using br steel
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#81
In that case, I'm not sure about Sonic. Decent team for NA.
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there rlly isnt much to pick from
i wanted to just do leo_drk and vsm and comm in portuguese but theyre both on teams
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Do you think this team would be better than Skade? Who's AWP between h4rn and Poizon?
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missed this one.
How do you see AdreN leading this team? I'm really curious to see why did you choose him over other options.
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Who's the IGL?
Bntet (support)
Hen1 (Awp)
Azr (igl)
Jks (lurker)
lolipop21k (entry)
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Not bad.
suNny and Allu both have teams and sergej and suNny do not like allu but without that:
Allu
Sergej
ZehN
Doto (igl)
SuNny
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How far do you think this team would go?
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Without conflicts between players, and if doto can become good igl their upside could be even top 10 team. But there is so many players that have not been that good for a while so I could also see them be like only an top 25 team lol.
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mmm in terms of skill is great. I'm not sure in terms of working with space how JKS, BnTeT, and Woro would be together.
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good team on paper. depends if Farlig can be a consistent AWP.
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Yes, I think that's the expected outcome.
Still, no one here chose him for a team. Sad
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Funny, because I checked the polish teams to see if I was forgetting someone (I thought about Rallen). I reached Anonymo and didn't pay attention to see Snax was still benched.
kjaerbye
hen1
jks
oBo
amanek
azr
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I'm not sure about oBo and Amanek on the same team. I guess Amanek is entry and oBo support?
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obo entry amanek support
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Thinking about it is better than I initially thought.
Their best map is Vertigo, isn't it? lmao.
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their only map is vertigo
Olofmeister
Flusha / golden
Sergej
Poizon
Sunny
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We already know how Flusha, SergeJ and Sunny work.
Poizon
Lollipop21k
Chopper
Allu
Sanji
I know this team would make much more sense with woro instead of poizon, but i want him to have another chance.
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why allu?
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In this team allu decided to give awp to poizon and try to revive his career as an IGL
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Then why chopper? Do you trust Allu as an IGL with another AWP?
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Chopper cuz firepower
I wouldn't trust allu to do anything, but maybe he can do something as an igl
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I don't think Chopper is a good option for firepower.
Mir is the right option (plus you have a lurker while lolli is entry).
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I think chopper can be really good if he gets good roles, he has a good aim and is a good team player.
Mir is mechanically very good, but the problem is the mentality he brings to the team. If he can be less toxic he would be great for this team.
Lollipop21k (entry)
Allu (igl and secondary awp)
Poizon (awp)
Sanji (support)
Chopper (passive rifler/anchor)
It's definitely not the best team in the world, but i think its interesting and might work.
It may lack a bit of firepower but thats expected since i didn't exactly pick the best players there are free.
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it's creative for sure.
In that case, I would use Chopper as entry. I believe more in lollipop as a clutcher.
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i never watched many nemiga games, so ill believe in what you say
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I can't see this working. You should try to explain.
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IMO lacks firepower. If oBo is entry and KennyS gets tilted because of missing shoots, they're doomed.
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you didn't put jks.
I never said "Choose players in their peak performance". So in this case I'm analyzing how the team would work when things aren't perfect.
KennyS last stage in G2 was him missing too many shots and performing worse through the match because of it. And Kenny without the AWP is pretty much useless.
oBo is the entry, so he has a higher chance to die. oBo dead, KennyS not having a good game, how can you recover those rounds when neither Golden nor Sanji have firepower?
It's all down to Mir needing a +1.30 rating to mitigate those things.
That's why IMO I wouldn't see this team going too far.
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i wouldnt see this going that good too, but you cant get a tier 1 team from those benched player either, so just tried to put by positions some players, also this team if happen wouldnt be like a full "entry" like just dying everyone for other, golden/mir/sanji could entry sometimes too.
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I respect it. I can't deny the creativity
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Mikka “Firepower” Kemppi
allu “Twofaced” Toledo
sergej
Doto
Zehn
Ez major final + disband 2 weeks after major
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Aleksib was the problem?
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kio was the problem
Draken
JW
Golden
Olof
Flusha
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Draken is with Savage. Fnatic benched those players for a reason.
P.S: I get it.
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Draken isn’t signed he is just a stand in. Himself said in an interview that he has something else planned for 2022 and he isn’t planning on staying in Savage
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Didn't know that. Thanks.
BnTeT support
Jks lurk
AZR igl
Woro2k awp
Lolipop2k entry
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AZR - IGL
Jks - Lurker
Mir - Entry
Oskar - awper
Amanek - 2nd awper on ct side and support
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I like it
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Wasn't ISSAA playing Valorant?
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I mixed things up. When he was benched by OG he was playing valorant but stayed on CS with EF. Somehow while making the list I thought it was the other way around.
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who is IGL? Maka?
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Chopper
Mir
Lollipop2k
Aunkere
Woro2k
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is this a leak?
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No but just makes sense all these players are too good to be free agents
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Do you believe on the team or is it just a memory trip?
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bntet and kyojin roles? just curious
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prolly he made kyojin as star and bnTeT as support
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I kinda like #84 more.
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interesting
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because is interesting
I guess JKS is the star, but the system is good enough that doesn't depend on his performance. Obo can be entry but is a good support for KennyS in CT. Amanek can entry, lurke and can 2nd AWP if needed.
Is a good team, but people have posted better options with the same idea.
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MSL - AWP/IGL
jks - Lurk
oBo - Support
mir - entry
lollipop21k - rifle
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interesting, but I would put Amanek as a support because I don't trust MSL to be the only awper in the team (Yeah Amanek is not peak awper either).
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I honestly think this team could beat last dance. So you might be right.
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pretty good. But I like mir better as a lurker. He obviously can entry, but he has so much game sense that he's more valuable the longer he stays alive IMO.
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interesting
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I would switch lolli and mir roles. I love lolli aim and transfers, while I like Mir better as a lurker and clutcher.
Still an interesting team.
Why is no one picking Gade? Curious
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Gade is good, but over his career has been playing a lot of different roles and doesn't really excel in any. It's more that there's better options if language is not an issue. Unless you want sexiest player.
Or if you just want good looking team
JKS (lurk)
Gade (rifle)
Kyojin (rifle)
Golden (IGL/support)
Acor (AWP)
Probs not best team but could work
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Sponsor team for sure.
obo, mir, hen1, jks and sunny
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Reasons on why do you feel sunny is the best IGL for this team?
AZR, farlig, jks, mir, amanek
and
ChrisJ, HEN1, BnTeT, SunNy, SANJI
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aimed for the most random team that could actually be in top30
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I guess they could be top 30 with some of the teams in it, lmao.
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and what about your team man
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#133
If we are speaking seriously, I think a team with Mir, Woro2K (If he's not toxic) and Lollipop should happen. You can add chopper and sanji to the mix (Extremum should read this)
If we're speaking of the best team possible IMO then switch sanji with amanek and lolli or mir with JKS. IGL between AZR or Chopper (if Mir stays then Chopper).
A team with players no one picked:
Sausol (Entry)
Gade (Rifler/lurker)
Thomas (Support)
Acor (AWP)
ChrisJ (IGL)
Funny enough, I think it could work
jks(lurker)
acor(but i only see him playing good in danish teams with danish coms)
amanek(suport)
zhen(igl)
sergej (entry)
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I'm not sure about Zehn as an IGL. Why him over others?
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i just remember him being a good fragging igl
Kyojin
KennyS
Amanek
hAdji
Maka
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Now that LDLC released them, do you think the last two will ditch Keoz to make this project happen?
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nope i heard that kenny and amanek want to make an "academic" team together and they kinda wanted kyojin but also kyojin was supposed to make a team with Hadji maka python and keoz so for now no idea about their futurs
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Pretty interesting team for your fellow polish. I don't know if I trust MSL without AWP nowadays.
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Did you have a Col flair before?
Who is IGL?
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It's creative and I think it could have the potential to be top 20.
They should play NA because oBo can't be far from mommy too long.
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why obo and not #39?
tarik
allu
chrisj
MSL
olofmeister
ez top 10
give them time and top 1, second major for tarik "goat" celik
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who is AWP
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allu, chrisJ second awp
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I would erase MSL in that case and let ChrisJ Igl. I don't think MSL, Allu and ChrisJ in a team would work.
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yea i agree. i wasn't trying, tarik wasn't even on the list
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I thought about it but I didn't add him because he's retired. I forgot to add Stanislaw too tbf.
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Who's the IGL?
I mean, 3 of those are already linking together. I think it would be a good team if Kyojin improves.
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He has.
Still, I think I would have Amanek IGL (I guess he's the one who will IGL in the project with KennyS).
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Interesting. But I feel Hen1 needs a 2n awper (And I don't want to see Bntet with and AWP). So I probably add Amanek for him
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Sell me on why is key to have Sunny in this roster over other entry. I don't have enough proof to believe his IGL skills would be enough as a 2nd caller.
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then why not oBo for example?
sanji, chopper, mir, woro, lollipop
good for at least top 30
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I believe this team could be better than old Spirit, so to me is a potential top 10 team.
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roles for Sergej, Sunny and oBo?
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oBo (Entry)
Hen1 (Awper)
Woro2k (Rifler i guess?)
JKS (Lurker)
AZR (IGL)
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Woro is a good rifle, but why would you waste his AWP abilities? I would rather have Hen1 as a rifle and 2nd awper.
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im sorry but i didnt know if he was a awper or not.
Kyojin
Amanek
Bubzki
Farling
Obo
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bubzkji is not really benched + who is IGL + roles for Kyojin, oBo and bubzkji?
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Farling for AWP
Obo Rifler
Amanek IGL
Kyojin Lurker
Bubzkji for Support
I think I have seen glimpse of Amanek that he can be an IGL
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Interesting project.
Not sure about Kyojin as a Lurker.
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I think he might be able to do it if he believes in himself not less than others.
Thanks for considering it interesting.
Astralis has waisted Bubzkji he could have done better with more time
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why MSL over other IGLs and having Farlig as an AWP?
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My issue with this team is that I don't think MSL can be a reliable rifle nowadays... But the problem remains with Farlig being there...
I would have Hen1 for Farlig if you want to stick with MSL as the IGL.
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From the list:
AZR (Renegades - Extremum)
Chopper (Spirit)
Golden (Fnatic)
ChrisJ (He did pretty good as stand-in for FPX)
Adren (Avangar/VP, K23)
Sunny (I guess...)
Oskar (I don't think he was the IGL for Sinners, but he can IGL and is a pretty decent rifler)
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I feel it'll be better.
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Support: amanek
Lurker: jks
Igl: bntet
Awper: allu
Entry: mir
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reason behind BnTeT igl? Tyloo can't be compared IMO.
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He brought the most fire power to the team since most of these players minus jks were lacking in it
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I don't think Mir lacks firepower.
I still don't see BnTeT as a reliable IGL. I would rather do - Allu + Oskar.
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I would rather have allu myself and mir was having a rough patch before he got benched so rather be safe than sorry
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I don't know if I trust Sunny as an IGL and not sure about a team without a dedicated AWP tbh (I don't want to see SergeJ or BnTeT with an AWP).
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jks (lurk)
BnTeT (support)
AZR (igl)
JW (awp)
Mir (entry)
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Why JW over other AWP?
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JW can bring more experience to the team
I would have otherwise taken farlig but Astralis could be taking him...
MSL is another experienced awper but I have AZR already as igl and JW is definitely a better awper.
TEAM EMPIRE
chopper
mir
lollipop21k
SANJI
Woro2k
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I guess oskar IGL?
I kinda like it. Zehn is underappreciated IMO.
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I kinda like the first one better. I think Olof is done and Golden lacks firepower.
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Amanek (support)
jks (because he is jks)
farlig (probably the best awper in the list)
Zehn (IGL)
mir (This team needs an aggro rifler)
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Why is farlig better than Woro2k?
I don't recall Zehn doing IGL tbh. In what teams did he do it?
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farlig has more experience in tier 1
I'm not even sure about zehn actually
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Why wouldn't this team follow the issues North had?
Doto IGL?
I'm not too convinced. Guess you chose Poizon because he played with oBo, but I can still see them lacking a bit...
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Who's IGL?
How do you see them performing?
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I go both ways with this one...
HEN1 and ISSAA might be too hot-headed to be together on a team (In gameplay terms).
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cis-version
Chopper
Mir
Lollipop21k
Sanji
Woro2k
english-version (I like my cis version better)
Golden (igl)
Amanek (support/entry)
JKS (anchor/lurker)
RigoN (second entry/star)
REDSTAR (awp)
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1st #169
2nd I'm actually mad I forgot RigoN. Why Redstar and not H4rn (For example).
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Yeah true H4rn better. Didn't remember which one was the awp.
mir
chopper
woro
sanji
lollipop
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Amanek main awper? I don't know...
I would like to point out you forgot liazzz, the man was such a talent back in ORDER.
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I didn't add him because in Extremum he was very underwhelming.
suNny stick with GORILLAZ. So he's not free agent :)
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Where has he said that?
To me, that's like them having an org backing them, until I see it I don't believe it.
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I saw some or heard from some guy that they will add oskar to his team named GORILLAZ and suNny stick with LMBT and team.
So it's basicly suNny supra oskar sergej +1
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It could make sense. But if true, I'm not sure Oskar made the right choice leaving Sinners (Unless the salary is bigger).
Kennys
Olof
AZR
jks
oBo
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Why Olof over other options?
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personal preference. Just wanna see him and kenny play again eventhough ive never been a fan of them they are legends and i just wanna see them again
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Interesting team. Depends on how good Sunny doess as an IGL.
Mir
\
------- explosive rifling duo.
/
Hadji
kennyS - awper
Amanek - support/versatile weapons master/secondary igl (what he was before they forced him to awp)
Azr - igl
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Not a bad team at all. If anything I'll argue there might be a lack of utility use but is not that big of a problem.
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Amanek and azr should cover that
mir
jks
amanek
maka
bntet
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who's IGL?
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who's the IGL? roles? pretty lost with this one.
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I know about h4rn. I thought Bubble was the IGL in fiend. I know the rest are rifles, but what roles do they play?
sergej: entry
AmaNeK: support
MSL: AWP + IGL
Sunny: star rifler
olof: lurker
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I have my doubts about Sunny as a star rifler with the options available. Same about having Olof in a roster that already has MSL, Sunny and Amanek.
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Why ChrisJ over Amanek. Just curious.
Otherwise, I like it.
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Who's IGL? Who's AWP? what about utility?
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Who's entry? Guess ChrisJ awper? why him over other awp?
Msl - igl/entry (he used to do that, right?)
Amanek - support/2nd awp
Kennys - rifle. Jk awp
Jks - baiter/rifle
Gade - rifle
Maybe sunny over jks.
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Not a bad team, but as I've been saying, not sure about MSL without an AWP nowadays. Entry IGLs looks to be the new meta anyway.
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Thanks.
I wish some org would look at this and think about it. Or even the players that are still free agents.
I mean, CIS superteam should happen but according to rumors, Woro2k is playing with Sunny, Sergej, Supa and Oskar. I don't know how I feel about this if true.
As for your team, is ok. I keep repeating that I don't trust MSL without awp nowadays (nor do I with the awp tbh lmao).
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Interesting. Why do you feel AZR could be a better IGL for Mir than Chopper?
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MSL
h4rn
jks
gade
lolipop
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If MSL is not AWPing, why him over other IGLs?
BnTeT - Main Awp
Adren - Secondary Awp
Chopper - 3rd Awp
Poizon - 4th Awp
Mir - 5th Awp
Coach is sean payton from the Saints
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If your team is full awper, why not MSL and Woro2k in it?
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art is not a free agent or benched.
I don't know how I feel about the other 4 together after the fnatic fiasco. Not enough firepower.
hAdji
zehN
Farlig
AmaNEk
lollipop21k
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Who's the IGL? Zehn or Amanek? is hadji the "Star"?
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AmaNEk, hAdji and lollipop are the main riflers, zehN and AmaNEk are supportive elements and Farlig is a solid AWPer
Golden IGL
Amanek support anchor
Jks lurker
Sergej entry
Hen1 awp
English speaking obv, solid tier 2 EU team imo
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I'm ok with this. pretty straightforward.
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who's the IGL? reasons why you believe in Kyojin as "star"?
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Kenny
Amanek
Keoz
Hadji
Kyojin
Coach :KRL
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Do you think this team would be better than current Heet? And why Keoz?
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Keoz cuz he speak french and he had problems with girlfriend this year (virgin). He is a monster he just need a good environnment. And actually i think they could be equal as heet. But maybe AMABUFF carry
U forgot denis on ur list :(
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