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-hades
+oskar
-snappi
+MSL
oskar,maden,msl,dycha,spinx
is this top 10 team?
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easly
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there is no finng waaaay
that hades==oskar
that is just ridicilous
eh ?
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/798/oskar..
If there is a weak link in ENCE, its def sniper. Not saying oskar should or will join them, but hades? Lol...
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20 maps?
lol
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and now your point isn't as strong.
besides, oskar is in retirement age, when hades hasn't hit his prime and only played in t1 for half a year.
does that even the scales?
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1) stats farmed in t3 events
2) you haven't even shown any proof that he is the weak link, and now you're trying to attack my reading comprehension
let me remind you
hades = oskar
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for sure he fell off, but in terms of an investment hades is still better than oskar id say
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lol delusional because of your flag
filter oskar in 2021 vs top 10...oh wait, he just farmed tier 5 events and has 0 games vs top 10. Hades still didn't play a single game in 2022 so it's way too early to judge him based on 2021 data. Oskar is good but as someone else said he is old and he will be worse and worse. Hades may be worse but may also peak and be great, who knows. I would rather invest in young player with potential than in 30 yo player who was once great but his peak is over
no no just no
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what then
do people acctually believe that snappi can bring this team to top10
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hades is decent just give him time
and snappi is very good IGL + in last matches he was almost like top fragger as an IGL
i think maden will bring fresh wind there and they can do something nice together
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what does nationality have to do with anything
are u one of those morons u predicts vitality will fail cuz they went international
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No because if u had read my thread i think only international lineups with star caliber player can show success (g2, faze and new vitality)
My problem is not enough smaller teams are betting on uni-national teams when its still relevant.
Ps: i consider a lineup international if they have no national core - vitality’s core is still french
let me remind you what they looked like at the time:
hltv.org/ranking/teams/2020/november/23
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yeah MSL is going to fix anything
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atleast he is better igl than snappi will ever be
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how though? :D
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his north teams when he had decent players were always top 5
he is the only igl to beat legendary in form 2018 astralis 2 times in bo3
it s fair to say that alone is much better resume than what snappi ever did
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then they bombed out of next major doing absolute dogshit, there is a reason why nobody picked up MSL I guess... but nt
even YNK said that North with MSL were easy to read
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yeah YNK who as coach won absolutely nothing with team that had niko and cold
value his oppinion as much as u do
and yeah they bombed out of the major,that was like 3 days after they wont tier 1 tournament,they didnt have time to rest or prepare for major
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is that excuse? maybe they shouldnt participate then on this tier tournament.... North were pretty inconsistent and won tournament against Astralis doesnt make him IGL which will crack the team to be top since he has always been average
well they still played with no IGL and Niko is average IGL he just can frag so they always had close series
Snappi and MSL both probably arent solutions
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they were always spanked by any competent team,niko is horrible igl
ynk is even worse coach,his strats were ridicilous and too slow
do u really expect from a team whose best player was aizy to win major after stocholm,i really dont understand what did people expect from msl he has tier 2 level talent on that team
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if he is that good IGL how did nobody take him yet? :D ofc they werent going to win the major but going 0-3 was just straight failure after winning tier 1 event after winning against Astralis
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no one wants msl
cuz he only wanted offer from tier 1 teams
but no tier 1 team wants him cuz of smart people from hltv and reddit who say tha msl is bad igl
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he is just average IGL and there is reason why no tier 1 team wants him
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msl one of the greates igls of all time is only good as awper lol
and hades is just waaaay to inconsistent to be on tier 1 team right now
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how many tier 1 tropihes 30 yer old snappi woN?
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Have u seen MSL in North lately? He had 0 form as Rifler so....North was sooo bad under him when he came back so don't. He need to prove he is capable of doing smth before someone will give him top. 20 team
Hades maybe is inconsistent but u bring here Oskar who is after his best and is even more inconsistent and also not good enough if u want to achieve anything(it's not the same Oskar u have to remember) and Hades is still a young player.
oskar better than hades xD??? 1.04 rating on tier5
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hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16848/had..
yep u got raitings right
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nice compare tier3 to tier1 than Xertion is much better than ropz
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sure then hades played all the tier 1 events
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just check EPL14
oskar rating 1.05
hades rating 1.21
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hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16848/had..
sure find 5 matches hadeses team won and he played better in than oskar
talking about nitpicking stats
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XDD nice LAN matches vs ONYX or ENTERPRISE (still bad rating on tier3)
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yes 0.98 is amazing rating for tier 1
lets keep him as awper pls
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oskar is a washed up old man
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what is rufire
is he igl
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do they even speak englis
russians are notorius for not knowing english
With MSL this team would je a sure contender for top 1 team!
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well yeah then just keep snappi
and suck bellow top 10
as much as I like MSL maybe taking out Snappi might hurt the team tho oskar is a straight upgrade can make them top 10 if Spinx and dycha step up consistently
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man i really dont belive in snappi as an igl or a player
he blew every opportunity he ever had in tier 1-2 cs
he never achived anything big
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ehh I think he has been decent, but he never truly had amazing lineups except like 1-2 decent teams over 6 years.
I think at least for now ence squad 100% invested into Snappi so no reason to shake it up so much.
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this ence team cant do much with him in lineup
but,lets see maybe maden becomes one of the best riflers on planet
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Maden was very good on FPX/godsent so I think they have a nice core tho I have my doubts about hades against top 10 teams
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me too
that is why bringing oskar is improvement
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with the state of
nip and astralis
and some of the other cis teams in top 10
i can see this team cracking top 10
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snappi is like 3 years older than him
and he neve achived anything
why people think msl is worse than him
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lol msl literally won mvp award and tournament against prime astralis
and somehow snappi proved himself with iem fall hahahah
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Nah they are fine
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ok
Absolutely no reason to remove Snappi to get MSL
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snappi older igl who never achived anything > msl one of the goat igls
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maden will do fine
but with snappi they are limited
just like hunden was limiting factor for now heroic boyz
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snappi >>>>> msl.
Msl hasnt played t1 cs since 15/11/2020. he is out of the meta + he would riffle so even worse than what he already was
msl sucked on awp, imagine him on riffle.
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smart
we all know that team who has igl with most firepower is always the best in the world
who gives a shit what kind of strats or what kind of igl he is
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snappi 4 years older
didnt achive anything in his life
and yet msl is the one who is washed out
The amount of people on this thread who think Snappi is a better IGL than MSL is astounding lol
Don't get me wrong, I like Snappi but MSL is a straight upgrade, and he hasn't had a team this solid since 2016
Pick him up ENCE!
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yeah people are idiots
most of people here think that msl is awper and that is his only role
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i would kick both
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-lan player +onliner good fix back then...
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Maybe maybe. He was actually a great player in Finnish Ence 2020, but in that international team he didnt perform that well
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Yeah. He will play in that new finnish team (zoree, arvid, saddyx, oopee)
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I know, I just said the new team
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ahhaha what did snappi win
and when was the last time msl had anyone good in his lineup
check that before expecting Levante to win CHampions League
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msl hell no, hades is imo better than oskar but he was scared on lan to do stuff. we shall see how katowice goes for them
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yes in your own oppinion
wich baised in fantasy
hades is better than oskar
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if u look at hades stats when he joined until they had iem fall. he was fucking destroying but once they got on lan he fell of a bit because he was scared to do the stuff he did online. if he can get back to that lvl he was he is clear of oskar. but we shall see what happends
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hltv.org/stats/players/compare/16848/had..
even online he is worse than oskar
sure u can say oskar played against weaker teams but he has almoast 2x more maps just in 2021,and on lan oskar destroys him in every way possible
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No, it's not a top 10 team at all.
Spinx
dycha
maden
siuhy/AZR
h4rn/Farlig
better imo
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also not bad
i think that poizon is underrated
-hades +h4rn/farlig/degster
-snappi +spellan/golden
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msLUL
Do you want to make Ence a retirement house or what?
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snappi is literally 4 years older than msl
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And Oskar is literally 8 years older then hades
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so if u add up
its like u replaced 2 20 years olds for 2 22 year olds
and by your definition that is retirement home
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Im afraid it doesn't work like that
+Allu
+Aleksib
+Sergej
+xseven
+Aerial
Team to go Major finals.
*mic drop
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year last 3 years i hear that oskar is near his end of the career but his numbers were and still are pretty good,and whenever he has a chance against tier 1 teams he does well
hades on lan was one of the biggets jokes of all time
and as of snappi vs msl,msl i faaaaar more superior tactician,and 4 years younger
i would still give one of the legednary csgo igl chance before snappi who blew every chance he had with good teams
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-maden straight after signing him. Big brain move. Also lets -hades, a young talented AWPer for a 30 year old who will probably retire soon
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maden is not gonna work when you already have spinx lmao.
ence management trying to slowly create a aim based team lmao , faze v2 .
Teams work if everryone feels confident and likes the way they have been put up to play.
This roster is becoming dysfuncional and will not be as good as the previous one.
The move should have been -hades +better awper.
-snappi +msl makes no sense sorry.
This is just counterproductive, MSL is a great player and igl but snappy is not bad and he has some great games like the infamous mirage game. I it ain’t broke fix it. Hades though has been lack luster lately but under periods has shown great potential and skill and He just needs to work on his consistency which is obviously a lot of work but very possible. Oskar though is not young and we know what we get and it’s good but he will never develop to a new role and new fresh player but he has a expiring date and on the awp role a young player is just so much better as this team is in no need of experience.
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