Forum thread: Most likely to win Katowice

Where is NaVi?

2022-02-12 14:18

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2022-02-12 20:02

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They're number 0? Is that above 1?

2022-02-12 21:51

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Yes

2022-02-13 00:08

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well the zero was a late addition to the numerical symbols chart brought to us by our friends in arabia

2022-02-13 05:07

0/8

2022-02-12 14:18

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I would agree with you but we would both be wrong

2022-02-12 15:10

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Change your title to. “My favorite teams in ..”

2022-02-12 16:36

No Natus Vincere?

2022-02-12 14:18

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I'm disappointed with their performance at blast

2022-02-12 15:01

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but they sure as hell should be still amongst the favourites for a lan tournament

2022-02-12 15:10

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I have a gut feeling they will have an upset at this event, plus if I put navi on the list, it would be as exciting, because everyone knows they will most likely win

2022-02-12 15:11

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Your gut feeling Most likely to win Pick one

2022-02-12 15:18

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They lose, renegades win, there done.

2022-02-12 15:19

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absolutely delusional

2022-02-12 17:23

They were most likely saving their strats for Kato. Blast was unimportant

2022-02-12 15:15

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Idc, saving strats is a g2 thing to do

2022-02-12 15:17

there is no saving strats electronic had the worst tournament of his career since 2017 perfecto was underwhelming Boombl4 was also underperforming

2022-02-12 17:26

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And how exactly does it disqualify the hypothesis that they were saving strats for more important tournaments?

2022-02-12 17:32

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it does not make sense for mechanical players like electronic playing worst because they are "saving strats"

2022-02-12 18:29

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stop explaining such a things to stupid people

2022-02-12 18:32

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Rude?

2022-02-12 19:21

idk mate, it does make sense to me. By not using their best strats, there is a room for improvisation and errors that often result in chaotic plays and reduced player ratings. I would not be surprised if this was the case. Electronic looked shaky last year as well tho

2022-02-12 19:18

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yeah but never this bad he barely had a 1.0 rating

2022-02-12 19:35

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True, but still would not count them out from being contenders for the title in Kato

2022-02-12 19:39

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I would not either I think they are the clear n1 contender for it

2022-02-12 19:40

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Probably not, but I'd say they are somewhere among top3 contenders

2022-02-12 20:00

online event doesnt count

2022-02-12 21:55

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An official match is an official match. Its been almost 2 years, we've jumped from online to lan multiple times, the its online excuse is no longer valid because it has been established that there will be more online events and players need to adapt or else they won't have opportunities to go to lan events

2022-02-12 23:16

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wrong, we were forced to the flukey online era and are slowly coming back, we saw on the few lans who were the real teams and who were the jokes

2022-02-12 23:17

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Like who?

2022-02-12 23:27

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Faze and G2 were the real deal while Gambit was the joke

2022-02-13 11:48

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Gambit has been in the playoffs consitently on lan

2022-02-13 12:04

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I mean yeah they can beat the joke teams like furrya, they lost to Navi on lan who were literally knifing them because gambit was that unserious of a team. Oh and the lan before they got FUCKED by Faze with olof and karrigan

2022-02-13 12:43

Remember their poor performance on Katowice 2021, EPL Season 13 and EPIC CIS League Spring 2021 where there were losing left and right to top100 teams. And after that they won all big lan tournaments.

2022-02-13 16:46

This thread is 0iq

2022-02-12 14:19

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2022-02-12 15:02

2022-02-12 15:50

Negative

2022-02-12 16:37

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2022-02-13 05:47

wtf, Navi will have to deal with the russian invasion?

2022-02-12 14:20

If this is LAN navi are always the favourite, and anyway basing on the first online matches after a long time break is not the best idea. imo 1.Navi 2.G2 3.Vitality 4.Gambit 5.Faze

2022-02-12 14:21

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Why would Navi be the favourites? They dropped too many maps to be considered a favourite. This is Navi we are talking about, not Astralis, there is nothing to suggest they are able to hold dominance for a long time

2022-02-12 14:31

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I just said it's LAN, navi are a different team

2022-02-12 15:06

you're talking like fucking blast groups is the most imprtant tournament of the year

2022-02-12 15:07

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Where did i do that?

2022-02-12 17:03

prime astralis lose to north etc

2022-02-12 15:31

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prime navi lost to mibr etc

2022-02-13 00:10

0/8 imagine putting navi g2 and vitality over gambit lmao

2022-02-12 15:02

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If it was online I would put Gambit as nr.1 over Navi, it's just objective, as Gambit never showed up really good at LAN, may this time they will do

2022-02-12 15:07

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you realize that Gambit has a 100% playoff rate on lan top4 at major win at V4 and finalist at IEM winter vs navi how is that not showing up on lan?

2022-02-12 15:11

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top 4 and got literally destroyed by Navi won a t2-3 tournament. got top 2 at blast global final with no crowd, that's all. But all the team that are above Gambit showed up way better on LAN, that's it.

2022-02-12 15:19

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imagine hating on a top4 finish at the major with 4 rookies smh, i cant wait to see navi keep on losing :) gl in 2022

2022-02-12 15:21

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are you ok? Who I hate? Don't you like the fact that those teams were better on LANs? Just accept it, don't be delusional, personally I like Gambit, and I keep my mind fresh about them anyway. I hope they will do well. But those are straight facts.

2022-02-12 15:25

swap g2 and vita I would think since g2 lost last time

2022-02-12 21:55

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lost last time in online while Vitalty have done like 30 smoke kills

2022-02-13 14:58

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yes but still thats all the data we have rn

2022-02-13 14:59

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we also have the data that G2 were the second best team on lans last year

2022-02-13 15:07

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true, but not this g2

2022-02-13 15:25

1. NAVI 2. Vita 3. Gambit 4. G2 5. FaZe/VP

2022-02-12 14:22

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navi looks like shit and gambit looked great, but of course valta puts gambit under vita and navi lul

2022-02-12 15:02

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Gambit played online tier2 NAVI played online quals both results are irrelevant. Gambit maybe got used to studio environment a bit, but they'll be in a huge disadvantage in spodek arena

2022-02-12 15:53

online events still dont count have you learnt nothing

2022-02-12 21:55

2022-02-12 15:58

its lan so gambit will suck

2022-02-12 21:55

Good list.

2022-02-12 14:22

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Thanks

2022-02-12 15:08

No NAVi? That's not smart OG? That's dumb as fuck. They only won against mibr and Asstralis man, plus I doubt they'll ever beat a team the calibre of Liquid or Furia consitently, not to say Vitality, g2, Gambit NaVi etc.. Honeymoons can help, but they cant make miracles like that happen

2022-02-12 14:24

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+1 -OG +Navi on the list and it somewhat makes sense.. besides the renegades pick

2022-02-13 12:39

People think NaVi is trash after a BO1LAST xdd

2022-02-12 14:26

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Not trash just there are some tournaments you don't see teams winning. I cant see navi winning due to the increase of quality teams. I think an upset is bound to happen and I have a gut feeling that its katowice.

2022-02-12 15:04

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''increase of quality teams'' LMAO. NAVI won the last LAN Katowice and there were Astralis with device for example. Id say better teams 2020 than now, noone knows how New G2, VItality, FaZe play on LAN.

2022-02-12 15:30

Teams in 2021 were quality as well, especially GAMBIT (imo 2021 GAMBIT better than any of the new 2022 teams) and they were handling them after CIS rmr

2022-02-12 15:38

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2021 teams were super weak G2 wasn’t that good, Vitality were playing with bot kyojin. Gambit start of 2021 was good but fell hard. Heroic were relevant for 2 tournaments the entire year. And every other team isn’t even worth mentioning

2022-02-12 17:22

2021 was the worst year of cs

2022-02-12 17:29

+ people overrate the new teams, you forget about the honey moon period, we don't know if they can continue to perform like this after other teams have studied how the new teams play

2022-02-12 15:43

Bad bait

2022-02-12 14:28

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Grow up

2022-02-12 15:04

0/8

2022-02-12 14:30

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Grow up

2022-02-12 15:05

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no u

2022-02-12 17:24

where is furia?

2022-02-12 14:32

Gambit gonna win it.

2022-02-12 14:45

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I can see them doing it again

2022-02-12 15:05

Really? You think you get away with this thread without mention The Great Nation Of Liquid?

2022-02-12 14:48

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Yeah pretty much

2022-02-12 15:06

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Feel sad for you.

2022-02-12 15:08

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Lol

2022-02-12 15:10

since its LAN and the form and etc I would go like this Gambit/Navi Gambit/Navi Vitality/G2 G2/Vitality Faze - but they need to get out of play ins somehow (apparently they are not even practicing at all) and survive at least match in a lower bracker probably or somehow win first match in upper bracket

2022-02-12 14:51

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this

2022-02-12 15:03

navi?

2022-02-12 15:05

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I feel an upset will happen in this event

2022-02-12 15:06

wisla krakow 77% vp 22% rest 1%

2022-02-12 15:07

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Home advantage

2022-02-12 15:13

navi, g2 and vitality can all win equally gambit will poop their pants on crowded lan again faze overrated and was always about 5 spots higher on these lists than they should've been, imo they make quarters max OG is past their honeymoon now

2022-02-12 15:21

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faze without ropz stay in play in

2022-02-12 15:31

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ehhhhh doubt it the competition really isn't that hard

2022-02-12 15:44

Def not Last Dance

2022-02-12 15:40

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Didn't even qualify

2022-02-12 23:22

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Yes

2022-02-13 03:21

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automatic win then, I don't make the rules

2022-02-13 04:20

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Oh nice. In that case; ez Kato for Paradox

2022-02-13 05:04

OG quarters at best 1. Vitality 2. G2 3. Na'Vi 4. Virtus.Pro 5. FaZe

2022-02-12 15:43

wisla krakow ezzzzzs

2022-02-12 15:51

NAVI failed one online tournament They still are the best team, especially on LAN, which mean they should be the number one favorite here.

2022-02-12 15:51

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Dont care renegades to take the victory

2022-02-12 23:22

I'm gonna win kato again this year im really feeling it and i have alot of strats on nuke and inferno

2022-02-12 15:52

1 - GODSENT there is no other option

2022-02-12 15:52

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all im gonna say is that god sent the wrong team

2022-02-12 19:44

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i am not talking about nip.

2022-02-12 20:03

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who?

2022-02-12 20:32

If Vitality can knock out NaVi in Katowice then they will win the next major

2022-02-12 16:39

you really putting og when its 90% chance of blast honeymoon period

2022-02-12 16:41

1 - Vitality 23% 2 - NaVi 22% 3 - G2 19% 4 - Gambit 17%

2022-02-12 16:49

Imo NaVi / Gambit most likely

2022-02-12 16:49

1. Gambit 2. Don't care 3. Don't care 4. Don't care 5. Don't care

2022-02-12 16:50

G2-NaVI final. LAN NaVi won't shit the bed and LAN NiKo is a different animal.

2022-02-12 17:32

Wtf even is this

2022-02-12 18:32

2.OG ? 5.renagade?? No Navi no Gambit wtf u smoking?

2022-02-12 19:40

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Gambit is in it. Plus I have a fut feeling that navi will have an upset

2022-02-12 23:21

The delusions are strong in this one. Good luck either way lol

2022-02-12 20:04

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Renegods will win

2022-02-12 23:21

Extreme mums holding liazz hostage because they don’t want Renegods to win

2022-02-12 20:13

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Playing dirty, I would only expect That from Astralis and G2

2022-02-12 23:20

G2 Esports will win the tournament

2022-02-12 21:53

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agreed!

2022-02-12 23:22

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2022-02-12 23:24

I think OP's list is fair, but I think navi will take it

2022-02-12 23:23

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I want an upset to happen and g2 or vitality to take the win. Winning everything is under whelming

2022-02-12 23:25

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I agree, but I think G2 always chokes when it matters, unfortunately

2022-02-12 23:46

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M0nesy and Aleksib hopefully will stop the choking or else they should get a sports psychologist

2022-02-12 23:54

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I hope m0nesy shines in tier1, but as for aleksib, I personally don't expect much

2022-02-13 00:03

1. Not vitality's best roster, atm. They have the potential OFC, but the lineup with shox and RPK was the best Vitality to date. They are indeed a good shout but i think the best they can do is semifinals. 2. Just not good enough. They looked decent at BLAST but still, they are not a team which can go all the way in T1 tournaments. 3. G2 are the only team capable of beating NaVi in a bo3 atm. If monesy performs they are a solid, solid contender. 4.FaZe pretty much the same story as for vitality. I think they will choke eventully even though i would love them to win Katowice. Max semifinals IMO. 5. Would be a nice Cinderella story, but not gonna happen. NaVi are the clear favourites. G2 or Gambit should be 2nd.

2022-02-13 00:07

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don't diss renegods

2022-02-13 04:24