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it's PGL'S fault
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Uganda M4CK1NHO 
They should realize this sh!t instanly and they should restart the round before played.
2022-04-17 18:56
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#1
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China Zhusha
Nah it's EF's fault, I am not saying they did it purposefully but they should notice it. Admins have other jobs than checking whether there is a weird bug in the game that is way more likely to get noticed by the players in the game.
2022-04-17 19:00
17 replies
bad take
2022-04-17 19:01
#4
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Chad GKDNZ
2022-04-17 19:02
imagine that you r fighting for Major and the score is 20-19. In that moment if you dont see c4, u may think that its somewhere on map or stuck somewhere, doesnt matter! you have to take your posation first then when you need to plant c4, you look for it. as Woxic's said; they relazied after Imorr's death (3vs2). You cannot blame EF for something happend first. ITS PGL's FAULT...
2022-04-17 19:04
9 replies
Exactly, it was 3v2, and rules state that the round cannot be replayed if the damage in the round was already done.
2022-04-17 19:23
8 replies
+1
2022-04-17 19:27
+1
2022-04-17 19:43
#45
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Turkey TheKaiser
Rules are for normal cases, a glitched round is a special occasion. It wouldn't be replayed if it was a technical issue but it's not, it's a bug. I'm pretty sure rules do not apply to cases like this, otherwise why would PGL take that decision? Do you think people at PGL are EF fans or something lol.
2022-04-17 19:45
3 replies
#63
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Sweden Sverige1
Mate, thats like saying everytime someone gets csgo'd or cant shoot a planters head there should be a replay. The rules are very clear, it's not gonna be any replay after damage is done. No matter if u get csgo'd or the GAME itself has a bug. If it was PGL who did something like every computer died, then sure. But this is a part of the game and PGL is not to blame so they should follow their own rules. Now they didn't, which is weak and bad.
2022-04-17 20:34
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#67
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Turkey TheKaiser
Getting CSGO'd is generally because of intended features as it's used for situations like missing a close shot because of movement inaccuracy. This was a round where Ts didn't have the C4 and we all know that planting C4 is the main objective. This is not a small bug that caused player model to be seen from a wall that it's standing next to; this is a bug that objectively gives a clear disadvantage to Ts like literally not being able to win. We all know that round wouldn't be replayed in case of a technical issue but this isn't a technical issue; this is a game-breaking bug. Rules are clear but this situation is beyond rules, nobody at Valve goes around and says "In case of a game-breaking bug..." because, you know, for obvious reasons. I'm pretty sure PGL admins aren't EF fans, why would you claim that they didn't follow their own rules without any official announcement?
2022-04-17 20:44
"Mate, thats like saying everytime someone gets csgo'd or cant shoot a planters head there should be a replay." Not even close imo. This is a situation where the literal primary objective of the game doesn't spawn. This isn't, and shouldn't be considered, 'part of the game'. There's already a precedent for this situation that happened at a pretty big tournament twitter.com/michau9_/status/151575409553.. and it was handled the same way
2022-04-17 21:00
+1
2022-04-17 19:49
#73
SPUNJ | 
Switzerland NtroP
The round was already compromised before damage was done. The C4 was not loaded in at all. This is on the admins, who should've checked the server log
2022-04-17 20:55
+1
2022-04-17 19:07
really ? do u have brain ?
2022-04-17 19:20
players dont have to find bugs
2022-04-17 19:22
+1
2022-04-17 19:42
#59
SPUNJ | 
Switzerland NtroP
The whole point of our jobs as admins is to make sure the match is played out fairly. The serverlogs at the start of a round always contain the following line: [player] triggered "Got the bomb" A good server config would notice that straight away and reset the round automatically. If this isn't activated, it's on the admin to watch out.
2022-04-17 20:26
#7
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Brazil MrLucas
Its impossible to keep track of every possible rare bug at all time, you can judge their decision of what to do about it, but there is no world where its their fault
2022-04-17 19:06
8 replies
Their "referees" staring into monitors all day long for this kind of situations
2022-04-17 19:12
4 replies
So it is 'their referees' fault not EF's, yeah?
2022-04-17 19:22
1 reply
Ofc it's not EF's fault. Organizer has to take full responsibility
2022-04-17 19:40
How can you expect a referee form a distance to figure that the bomb was bugged ? You can't see that, only a player playing the game can figure it out.
2022-04-17 19:25
1 reply
There are people observing the game live. I meant them, not the waffles behind players
2022-04-17 19:39
what would you say if it was a more common tech issue like xantares disconnects from server? you would not still call for replay. The rule is that any tech issue after damage is done does not matter but PGL went around that rule
2022-04-17 20:16
2 replies
#70
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Brazil MrLucas
different cases I would say, this was not an "normal" tech issue, it was a game bug, 2 very different situations and Im not saying PGL made the right call, as I dont even think there was a clear one, unless there are proofs that EF knew about what was happening before damage was done or that they somehow were responsable for the bug occurring, doesnt mater what decision PGL takes, one side was always going to end at disadvantage
2022-04-17 20:51
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I agree with you that there was no right call. Very similar issue to the NIP v Anonymo in that sense. These situations someone is always going to get screwed. It just seems that EF got screwed by getting the bug but in the end Dig are the team that got punished by having the round taken away
2022-04-17 20:53
Lol. I saw many pro players forgot something during the game. Like gla1ve forget buy the Kevlar, sjuush forget to planting the c4, some players forget carry the bomb to the plant site i.e iirc VP,forze.. Also G2 forget to defuse the bomb.
2022-04-17 19:20
2 replies
Lmao the last one
2022-04-17 19:22
#55
Calyx | 
Turkey zane_
lol i see what you did there.
2022-04-17 20:20
#16
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
It’s both EF and PGLs fault unintentional or not. Either they did it on purpose or they are super unprofessional and somehow forgot about the main objective of the game.
2022-04-17 19:24
7 replies
How is it PGL's fault?
2022-04-17 19:35
4 replies
#27
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
Admin should have noticed.
2022-04-17 19:35
3 replies
#26 This is such an obscure and rare occasion, if not even the players themselves noticed, then how would an admin notice that has to keep track of several players at once and all sorts of different scenarios.
2022-04-17 19:39
2 replies
#38
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
Because thats the only reason he is observing the server to begin with?
2022-04-17 19:40
1 reply
You don't have an admin observing inside the server just looking for the bomb and if it has spawned in.
2022-04-17 19:42
2022-04-17 19:47
what would you do if you dont see the bomb, i personally would think that someone dropped it or the vod is bugged so that someone has it and it doesnt show to me. you only notice that when you actually want to plant the bomb... THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
2022-04-17 20:40
what happened?
2022-04-17 19:25
2 replies
#29
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Turkey sonbafrali
When EF ahead 20 - 19 on T-side, the bomb has not spawned. Dignitas killed all and won the round but the round was replayed. EF's claim: We noticed that bomb is lost when we enter bombsite 2v3, after that round went chaotic clips.twitch.tv/MildComfortableFlyBudSta.. Dignitas's claim: We won the round, we are robbed. HLTV haters' claim: Turks cheated, abused bug for free try
2022-04-17 19:36
1 reply
ok i side with dig
2022-04-17 19:37
You like the outcome or not, it took them like 40 minutes. They talked with both teams, probably checked the replays and comms as well. If the decision was still wrong after holding the game for fucking 40 minutes, it's all PGL's fault, not EF. People are being racist and mean just because they wanted to see EF lose, and now they are mad cus they won.
2022-04-17 19:27
6 replies
+1
2022-04-17 19:37
+1
2022-04-17 20:20
#61
b1t | 
United Kingdom M1LGR1M
you didn't need to start talking about racism wtf
2022-04-17 20:30
2 replies
kinda true, what he says doh. Surely both teams agreed about the replay at that point. And lets think the round wasnt replayed: then EF would have a huge disadvantage, way worse than a replay, bc they wouldnt even have ANY chance of winning that round. It would have been a Round GIFTED to DIG...
2022-04-17 20:44
you clearly haven't seen the comments made by HLTV users in related threads...
2022-04-17 20:50
+1
2022-04-17 20:41
if someone have a question about this.Just check woxic’s tweet instead of being toxic. Ty all…
2022-04-17 19:31
Literally impossible to keep track of everything as an admin, if you think that this is PGL's fault then you're beyond stupid
2022-04-17 19:35
shouldnt someone in particular on EF have the bomb and their job be to plant? it is ot qualifying for a major...
2022-04-17 19:36
7 replies
#34
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Turkey sonbafrali
I don't know about pro team mindset but I don't think that there is a role like "bomb carrier"
2022-04-17 19:39
6 replies
not a role but you should probably be thinking about it before taking a site no?
2022-04-17 19:41
5 replies
#42
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Turkey sonbafrali
I'm not sure dude, maybe they leave the bomb on side first. I'm nova 4 mm player after all :) maybe somebody else can answer.
2022-04-17 19:42
3 replies
ok fair, im not a pro so i wouldnt know lOl
2022-04-17 19:46
2 replies
Yeah it seems like a situation that people would realize, but you see pro teams forget about bomb even in situations where the bomb actually spawned so I can believe that they just didn't realize. It's 5 players, so probably each of them thought that someone else had it and didn't think too much about it
2022-04-17 19:51
1 reply
#62
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Turkey sonbafrali
But people think that EF played that round like that: -"Yay! There is no bomb did you see that? lets go ant try and if we lost we ask for repeat. Thanks god for giving us to this opportunity" People believe that. It just cant be happen at this level, at this stage.
2022-04-17 20:30
Imo they should’ve treated it like a tech issue. You have to call about it before 1min or before damage is done. Its EF’s fault that they didn’t notice it until so late in the round
2022-04-17 19:56
1 reply
#58
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Europe m0rf3us
I agree, Dignitas should have gotten the point, but it's not EF's fault that the decision was different, PGL (admins) were the ones resetting the round. There is no reason to hate on EF.
2022-04-17 20:25
#51
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Brazil Pitzera
How is this problem addressed to PGL, PGL's admins and/or EF players/coach?? For me (and I'm not seeing anybody saying it) it's valve's problem. It's the second time this happens, and they should've done a full investigation after the first time
2022-04-17 20:14
2 replies
3rd Happened in an astralis optic game a long time ago
2022-04-17 20:14
1 reply
#60
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Brazil Pitzera
Even worse then. Valve should care about csgo competitive integrity. PGL and others organizers should include some rules to restart the round if there's no c4 or other start bugs, regardless of round result.
2022-04-17 20:28
Its over guys. Lets calm down. Decider is PGL not EF :)
2022-04-17 20:18
who thinks "not realizing the bomb was EF's fault" without thinking the other circumstances is absolutely talking with only emotions and has straightforward logic. get some brain.
2022-04-17 20:24
who cares d0gnitas dead team they wont go through anyways
2022-04-17 20:46
It doesn't matter if there was an advantage or not. It matters what the rule is. The moral dimension of the event is another matter of discussion. Rules are there to guide the way in such moments like this.
2022-04-17 20:56
#75
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Serbia Alamunja00
Naa
2022-04-17 21:05
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