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Albanians, help
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Bulgaria ramkain 
Just found out there is a warrior, named Skanderberg, who changed his side and fought the Ottomans. Why is that? ranker.com/review/skanderbeg/2042174?ref..
2022-05-14 09:16
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2022-05-14 09:21
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CIS dreamshiver
because he wanted/had his reasons to
2022-05-14 09:23
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#3
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Bulgaria ramkain
Actually former and CURRENT (but sadly banned) HLTV legend AK47_Is_Albania_Country_God just explained to me in a letter, that Skanderberg was taken away from his family as a child, which he never forgot, and when he returned started fighting the Ottomans.
2022-05-14 09:25
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CIS dreamshiver
long live AK47_Is_Albania_Country_God
2022-05-14 09:26
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#12
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Bulgaria ramkain
He never left us!!!
2022-05-14 10:02
#39
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Australia poppyxox
so cringe
2022-05-14 13:03
+1
2022-05-15 06:54
youtube.com/watch?v=k3Qelvsi_5E Skanderbeg is a legend
2022-05-14 09:31
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#7
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Bulgaria ramkain
thx for vid will check asap
2022-05-14 09:55
classic albanian move
2022-05-14 09:48
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you can wave your flag coz of him, classic albanian move init
2022-05-14 10:09
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u missed quite a lot of history classes i can see that
2022-05-14 10:18
imagine believe that george kastrioti is albanian
2022-05-14 09:56
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#10
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Bulgaria ramkain
Please, explain if you have opportunity - I know too little.
2022-05-14 10:01
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#9 is right like 90% kastriotis descent between slavalbanian and greek this guy on #9 comment explain it very well
2022-05-14 10:03
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#14
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Bulgaria ramkain
Yes, thanks
2022-05-14 10:04
Slavalbania???? No mate this doesn't exist. Don't mix time periods to the geographic location. SLAVIC people speak SLAVIC Albanians speak Albanian. The only Albanians that have a remote relation with Slavic are the Kosovans that had to learn Serbian AND EVEN THEN THEY ARE ALBANIAN. Otherwise what you're saying is like me saying Viking-germanic English people to the generation of English people after the Viking Invasion.
2022-05-14 16:12
#9
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Kosovo L1ndi
Bro, in that time all Albanians were Christian With the arrival of Ottoman Empire they used to take children of occupied zones to educate them and learn them Militarly and hoping them to fight for them as ‘Yenicers’. One of them was George Kastrioti(Skanderbeg called after the ottomans). But he never forgott his family and land and used to betray the ottomans and came back to Albania to unite Albanian princes to fight against them. He fought them very succesfully like 20 years until his death. I think he is one of the best generals in history
2022-05-14 09:59
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#11
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thank you!!! Yes, many Bulgarians also were taken as a blood tax, so I can relate here. Nice to have such heroes!!!
2022-05-14 10:02
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Albania turialb
I think maybe becouse he loved his homeland and also he was a great strategist he probably wanted to unite western armies against the ottomans and lead them .
2022-05-14 10:05
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Bulgaria ramkain
He tried is what matters
2022-05-14 10:58
#18
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Russia blackmetal
Soviet-Albanian biopic about him (with subs): youtube.com/watch?v=ggWl2UHBBso
2022-05-14 10:31
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#22
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Bulgaria ramkain
Ty will check when home
2022-05-14 10:57
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#45
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Russia blackmetal
that one is with Albanian dubs. In fact, actors originally spoke Russian. Here is the original Russian version, but without Eng subs youtube.com/watch?v=1b5E4Ph_vGk
2022-05-14 15:28
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#49
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Bulgaria ramkain
Looks awesome, but need to find those subs! Will search for when available
2022-05-14 15:43
#19
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Cambodia Angkor
God I miss Pol Pot.
2022-05-14 10:34
flags check out turkey rent free in your head
2022-05-14 11:29
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#33
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Bulgaria ramkain
Wtf i just want to know history IS IT TOO MUCH?
2022-05-14 12:45
flag checks out.
2022-05-14 11:50
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#35
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Bulgaria ramkain
2022-05-14 12:47
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2022-05-14 13:00
Skanderbeg is first European to beat Ottomans, and not just on an equal fight but actually with 10k army he beat a 80k army of Ottomans. He was taken by Ottomans as a kid as most of kids in Balkans were taken from Ottomans. If youve seen movie of Vlad Impaler his kids were taken too. If the parents would disagree Ottomans would crush them. Skanderbeg is a beautifull revenge story, where he knew the tactics of Ottomans and was raised as a fighter and he returned home and beat them really bad.
2022-05-14 11:56
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#34
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thx for insight!
2022-05-14 12:47
"as most of kids in Balkans were taken from Ottomans" That is not how it worked. The Ottomans would take males from Christian (mostly slavic) families aged 8-20, which would be forcibly converted to Islam, schooled and trained. They'd go on to become bureaucrats or janissaries. They would take children every 5 years from families exclusively in the countryside, citydwellers were exempt from it. They would also not take children from families who only had one male child. Some Bosnian and Albanian families offered their children willingly.
2022-05-14 13:01
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Indonesia segopecel
welp i elaborate why ottoman household taking child/slave to his reply, but the reply is deleted and so my reply too. rip the gist is, for who havent read it, ottoman doing so mainly for filling important workforce(bureaucrats and household soldier) with no local ties/families to lessen chance of court intrigue or rebellion. although they will rebel anyway at when the ottoman at decline. bcs they deemed outdated and might get replaced(this shown even these child turned soldier liked their position). its similar to how british/singaporean employed gurkha soldier when racial/ethnic tension is high. bcs local ethnic will likely do collusion or favoring their own ethnic group/families. so its not mainly bcs ottoman hate balkans or trying to weaken them through this. but all these explanation do not excuse taking child, but at least it can be used to balance the overwhelmingly nationalistic narrative in balkan region(im assuming you understand how dangerous over nationalism is). you can do better than plainly spreading hate/misinformation.
2022-05-15 09:37
Shitty man
2022-05-14 13:03
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#51
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Bulgaria ramkain
Because he fought for the freedom of his country?
2022-05-14 15:45
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#50
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Bulgaria ramkain
oh OH
2022-05-14 15:44
We learned about him along with John Hunyadi
2022-05-14 15:37
Northern Albania-Muslims Southern Albania-Christians Plus they were Christians before /closed
2022-05-14 15:47
why wouldnt he die for his country ? why betray them :(
2022-05-14 16:02
one day he heard youtu.be/hSU0Z3_466s and next thing you know he was fighting for albania again
2022-05-14 16:09
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#67
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Bulgaria ramkain
Too good Wp
2022-05-15 06:52
FUCK OTTOMANS
2022-05-14 16:10
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Bro we love Attila Szalai tho
2022-05-14 21:03
#68
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Bulgaria ramkain
As much as we have suffered from the Ottomans it was the Crusaders's fault things happened this way.
2022-05-15 06:53
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Its christians fault that turks stole christian children?
2022-05-15 07:54
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#72
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Bulgaria ramkain
Before that - when the Crusaders destroyed Byzantium's power for its riches, so that she couldn't do anything against the Ottomans.
2022-05-15 09:14
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yes i agree that the 4th Crusader destroyed the Eastern Roman Empire but that doesnt excuse the ottomans stealing christians kids
2022-05-15 09:16
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#75
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Bulgaria ramkain
Never said it did! =)
2022-05-15 09:21
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Albania ZxTox
He fought against the ottomans to save Western Europe from Islamization. He kind of succeeded at first but it didn't matter because after his death there wasn't any sort of resistance anymore. All those that didn't change their religion to islam during ottoman era had to pay extra taxes. So fast-forward to the 1840s -> So one day "9 malet e Dibrës" meaning the 9 mountains of Dibra gathered together at the castle of Fushe-Gjoricë and told the Ottoman representative that: "I'm the representative of the 9 mountains of Dibra and we do not accept this kind of behavior in our area and pay taxes and give you a fairy. I found out that you wanted to calm us down but be careful the mountains do not soften easily because their peaks are very windy and tough except the muzzle of the rifle do not expect another answer from us". Cen Leka Then that one Ottoman representative went back and gathered his army and wanted to declare a war. During their journey back to Dibra they went to Thessaloniki instead and where they roughly lost 2000 soldiers. We weren't even allowed to learn Albanian in school up until 1909 so it wasn't easy for us back then. What Skanderbeg was trying to achieve was that Albanians would keep their culture, language and the most important and reason why he fought against the Ottomans: The Albanian identity. Why I tell you all of this you may say? Well since both of my parents are from that region where not only Skanderbeg is from but also where war was declared and to give you an insight of what the Ottomans did to us.
2022-05-14 16:21
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#70
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thank you, exactly what I was looking for 💟 Great story!!! I will watch more videos and everything, just trying to get myself some free time since job is job...
2022-05-15 06:55
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Albania ZxTox
No worries!
2022-05-15 12:18
he's alpha af
2022-05-15 09:14
Who are albanians? You mean serbs?
2022-05-15 09:38
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#79
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Bulgaria ramkain
Learn history, friend )))
2022-05-15 12:52
1 reply
oh you mean turks
2022-05-15 13:40
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