yeah but still better than astralis era, because astralis was the only team playing good, all other teams was shet
2016 was so competitive, NA team in the final of the major and 2 best players in the world injured
> Teamplay was better
Doesn't look accurate
But even top 40 team today will outshoot every single top team back in 2016
CS post-Astralis is the best CS we've ever had. Deal with it
would be so funny to see top team in the world from 2016 just get rolled by a random cis team
Teamplay was better - NO
Teams dont look like run and gun pugs - Are you high?
Lots of teams at top lvl - NO
Lot of interesting matchups - Same situation even now
Sick highlights - YES
All teams nowadays are on same level as prime HR guys
They are not even on prime mouz level
when time pass , u will know how much competitive cs is nowadays
Ah yes, Pronax was mostly known from his 200iq strat "Olof go kill"
SK and LG era never happened in my memory and S1mple is 3 time major winner and soon 4 time major winner
what nostalgia does to a man
I'm so sure you didn't watch a single game of 2015-2016 you only watched some highlight and that's it, I swear to god lvls 10 are better than t1 of that time, it's how much cs evolved, so stfu.
U make no sense comparing most pros play back then it looked like pugs even now globals and faceit players sometimes play. Better then pro teams back then. Teamplay was so bad. Fnstic had best teamplay or sk and later astralis rest teams didnt had high lvl tactics mostly just insane individual players who get away with crazy plays.
I think cs peeked in 2018 with boston major.. it's not the same since
Competition is way better now. Not a single team is dominating. Not as many clips because all players are better and there is more flash and smoke combos.
realized you're clueless after you said it's less competitive and less team work haha
More exciting - I agree. More team play, what are you high on pls give me it. Just look at heroic vs liquid match today, heroic were absolutely sick in their strats from their lurks to their decisions to everything. They werent even outaiming anyone, they purely won on gameplans while liquid had to clutch hard to even make it 16-11.
Today's pro scene is much better but i miss 2014-2015 times :(
cs was more fun to watch back then because of how the weapons were balanced.
ultra aggro awp plays were the meta, the 32 bullet tec9 was insane, 1 shot headshot p250, etc.
Just admit you've lost interest in watching comp cs since 2016, so you think things were better before. And I guess you've never watched a single demo, because cs meta has been evolving every year .
true, it was way more fun. upsets were more rare and it was super hype, also cs wasnt insanely generic as it is now, its just boring to see these dead maps like vertigo or ancient, bring back old maps like cobble, cache and it will be way more fun.
i think 2022 will be a great year for CS like the old times.
All teams are competitive, no team very ahead of the others (faze is a fluke), ''newer'' teams/players contending for top spots (Ence, CPH)... its great. If valve nerfs m4a1s it will be greater
How to say "I have have no clue ehat I'm talking about" without actually saying it. Prime NiP literally just played default every round. Prime fnatic looked like an FPL stack compared to the challenger stage teams of today.
The game tactically speaking has come a long way and esport has only become deeper and more interesting.
2014-2016 most fun era to watch fnatic in their prime was the funnies team to watch. Astralis best off all time tho
just analyze an execute from 2016 and a execute from 2022, if after that you still thinks the same... i fear you are blind.
super low tier b8, but cs was more fun thats fact. But saying that cs was more teamplay....0/8
what a bullshit. its an illusion
level of cs is so much higher now. individual level as well as game knowledge and teamplay/tactical level
if you think its pug play nowadays you simply cant grasp the nuances of tactical play as a team on the level we see now
I preferred 2012-2014 but 1.6 is always going to be better. ^^
any top 10 rn would wreck any top 1 team back then
2015 was probably the least teamplay time period of CS. Literally just aimers out aiming other aimers to get trophies. It's the whole reason there was that debate that IGLs are useless and should be fraggers in 2016-2017 and people pushing for any non 1.+rating IGL to be cut.
Highlights is probably true because teams played worse back than , overpeeking not playing as a unit.
Today its just not fun to watch anymore. Always the same maps, teams nothing special…
Frustrating watching all the Ancient games, makes it hard for T's to do anything and bad teams can get results they wouldn't on other maps.
Legendary lineups of fnatic, nip, astralis, vp etc are dead now. So the fun is ruined a bit, i think you are partly right but still better than any game.
I don’t think so, CS has a higher level now, it’s more developed, nearly everyone says that.
"Teamplay was better, teams dont look like run and gun pugs."
2015-2016 was literally the era of strats called of spawn where you needed 4-5 T rounds to actually be in contention of winning a round. 2015 was only the beginning of people ACTUALLY USING MOLOTOVS. CS has came such a long way in terms of team development it cant even compare to 2015-2016.
You can see how much it takes to be a top team now compared to then
2003-2006 BeSt (==CLANBASE CS==)
HAHHAHAHHA. Teams are many times better today than back then, IDK what dream world you live in
cs level is very high , remember before 2016 on faceit all the pro players had like 3k elo , and nowdays you see some random dude with 4k.
No. GOAT cs period is 2019
fan base is way worse
also map pool isnt changed enough and the changes that do happen arent very good
also less variety in TO and LANs
I agree but 2014-2015 was better, more competitive, more passion for the game the game felt fresh and playing was pretty good
now it feels different, the community has changed too
people seem to play less or don't even play anymore and just watch more tournaments
It's called nostalgia. There will be kids who're watching cs and then 10 years later say that the current era is shit and 2022 cs was the best.
2022cs is just 5v5 deathmatch
the era where fer would push every round and nobody would watch flank
looks like u getting older, it is ok
There is more emphasis on individual skill in this meta, so yeah it becomes like that. It's not like playing the probability game meta, so that's part of why we see so little consistency in teams now. When you base the rounds off certain players winning duels or not, this is how it goes.
Stop binging on bathsalts and your mind will change
i wish i could know csgo on 2016/17 if i wasnt 8/9
it's the same old cycle, 4 years from now people will talk shit about the NAVI era and say things like "oh wow, teams were just rushing sites with no good execs" or some bullshit like that. the game is always competitive and it's always evolving, but evolution is not concept set in stone, it's not as simple as getting stronger, you just adapt for your survival (and it doesn't always work in the long run)
Yes, now its boring shift + waiting until all nades are thrown
I diss agree because rn there is no era and everyone can win everyone and actually everyone is winning, plus underdogs shine, it’s definitely interesting that when there were eras and basically 2 teams could win.