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FALLEN best Overpass ever?
Taiwan Vassel 
I dont remember any player better than him in this map
2022-05-16 22:13
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OLOF
2022-05-16 22:14
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Not even close to Fallen
2022-05-16 22:26
2 replies
#21
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Australia B_Tannen
de_OLOFpass nt m8
2022-05-17 05:09
1 reply
+1
2022-05-18 14:47
guardian 1v5
2022-05-16 22:14
2 replies
FALLEN STOP BLOWING MY MIND>>>>>>>>>>
2022-05-16 22:21
1 reply
:0000000000000
2022-05-16 22:22
Agree
2022-05-16 22:14
26 replies
de_stroyed
2022-05-17 05:12
wasn't even the best in his former team
2022-05-17 05:13
4 replies
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United States vakko
Isn't it crazy that Coldzera is still in top 5 on big events on all maps all time. hltv.org/stats?matchType=BigEvents
2022-05-17 05:20
2 replies
twistzz as 8th best is more mindblowing
2022-05-17 05:46
1 reply
whats really interesting is if you look at a lot of the individual years, hes not on the top 8
2022-05-18 05:01
#37
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Finland Vkims
Coldzera brazilian GOAT
2022-05-17 11:11
wow what a surprise s1mple is the best player on almost every map
2022-05-17 05:15
1 reply
#30
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United States vakko
#29 I am surprised actually
2022-05-17 05:20
where REZ wtf
2022-05-17 05:17
EZ FOR BREHZE
2022-05-18 03:23
if u put only majors against top5 you will find fallen on top8 rating and SK gaming top 1 rating =)) nt anyway
2022-05-18 03:26
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#50
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Finland Vkims
Why would anyone do that LMAO
2022-05-18 08:37
11 replies
to prove a point? ROFLMAO
2022-05-18 13:08
10 replies
#54
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Finland Vkims
Insufficient sample size
2022-05-18 13:30
9 replies
- smaller sample size with only tier 1 games - bigger sample size with lots of tier 3 games pick one
2022-05-18 13:41
8 replies
#57
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Finland Vkims
Terrible argument to support 7 maps sample size
2022-05-18 14:31
7 replies
at least im trying to argue here... youre just trying to refute my thoughts like `terrible argument` or `why would anyone do that LMAO`
2022-05-18 14:42
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#65
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Finland Vkims
Your argent is based on insufficient sample size, you basically cherry pick maps and try to argue that because Fallen did relatively great on thise, he is automatically one of the best. It is in fact terrible argument.
2022-05-18 14:55
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let me explain something to you have you ever heard about medical research on rare diseases? you will only find papers with small samples because some diseases are very rare... you cant just ignore then because of small number of patients included on the study... in these cases you accept a smaller sample and still will be significant... if you consider small samples `terrible` you will only research about diabetes or prostate cancer and would never know anything about rare diseases its the same thing about majors... top5 games on majors ofc you will find a small sample, but you cant just ignore it... you must need to accept a smaller sample to analise these stats majors are rare, 2 times per year compared to the sample you got (top 20 games + big events)
2022-05-18 15:19
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Finland Vkims
First of all, it is true some diseases are rare and research on them can only be done with small sample sizes. And that definitely hurts their validity. Second of all, I dont think this is same kind of case as you were presenting with medical research. We are arguing here is Fallen one of the greatest of all time in this map and in that context I dont think the filters you presented are good enough to describe that. Why would we only focus on majors and ignore every else map played in history? Why are majors so much more important that you are willing to accept sample size that low? Also the top5 filter is questionable in a sense that HLTV ranking is not always good in measuring which teams are the best and which are not.
2022-05-18 16:25
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first of all Analising small samples is possible and not to be considered a `terrible argument` as you stated before Depending on the disease you will have minimum number of patients needed to research... prostate cancer, the most common cancer on male, you will need like between 1.000 - 5.000 patients to make an impactfull research... wegener`s granulomatosis (rare kind of vasculites), on the other hand, you will need way less patients and still be significant and important for the medical community... small samples wont hurt its validity... you can validity 2 studies, one with 10.000 patients, other with 250 for different diseases second of all majors are such important games, it dictates the meta, teams saves strats to this tournament, whole community of CS-GO stops to watch it... how cant you consider it the most important stuff to analise??? topson is considered bigger in dota history compared to arteezy... look how small the sample of topson is compared to a decade of arteezy`s participation in The Internationals... third of all top 5 hltv actually displays from lots of variables on team forms and achievs, they are enhancing the list better and better with time... you also cant use that point of view against me if you are using the same top list...
2022-05-18 16:48
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#72
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Finland Vkims
analyzing sample size of 7 is terrible, especially with Fallen's case a few outliers lift his average rating way up. And if you go back to my link, I never used top x filters because I dont believe much in them. I dont think they bring much into conversation.
2022-05-18 17:00
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you must also consider his calls on this map, not just the rating... even after SK peak, with MIBR (with stewie and tarik) he would put fair performances against top form astralis on overpass and nowadays defeating on of the best IGL of the new generation, nafany
2022-05-18 17:20
low how the fuck is niko up there yet g2 refuse to play overpass so dumb
2022-05-18 03:29
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#68
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Finland Vkims
Hunter never played Overpass so there is the reason
2022-05-18 15:05
#67
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Belgium Soldierce
2022-05-18 14:56
Legendary
2022-05-16 22:15
Olofpass)
2022-05-16 22:15
#8
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Brazil flytw4tp
he's saur good
2022-05-16 22:15
I think when he's feeling it, he's one of the best on this map. But on an average, you can see #5
2022-05-16 22:16
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France marponche
ZywOo 2019
2022-05-16 22:16
Overpass one of the best maps for awps, the long distances are so goood
2022-05-16 22:17
#12
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Serbia Cheerio23
Idk both device and s1mple were/are nasty on overpass if we're talking about awpers. fer is even more famous than FalleN when it comes to overpass too
2022-05-16 22:17
#13
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Chile gentleeH
fallen stop blowing my mind game?
2022-05-16 22:18
fallenpass
2022-05-16 22:23
1 reply
+1
2022-05-17 05:08
Its definitely between Fallen and Dev1ce, s1mple also is very good at it but in terms of all-time i dont remember him being that good on overpass compared to other maps
2022-05-16 22:24
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#32
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Australia NoLeS
No, s1mple is way better lol. S1mple being way way better than fallen on other maps doesn't mean he's not also better on overpass
2022-05-17 05:50
#19
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Argentina SantiMedia
9z dgt, such a beast, check his stats
2022-05-17 00:05
2 replies
Dgt god
2022-05-17 06:22
1 reply
#63
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Brazil ShalkanG
+1
2022-05-18 14:49
fallen is definitely top 3 all time Overpass players, alongside Olofmeister and Guerri
2022-05-17 05:12
#23
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Brazil mininuh$
snax has a 1.35 rating in majors at overpass
2022-05-17 05:12
Stewie2k
2022-05-17 05:15
#33
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Brazil davidzor
Wrong map, hltv.org/stats?matchType=BigEvents&maps=.. That was his playground.
2022-05-17 05:52
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#34
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United States leeneptune
SUNNY ON THERE HAHAHAHHA
2022-05-17 06:18
4 replies
#38
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Brazil davidzor
He was huge on Mousesports
2022-05-17 20:44
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#39
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United States leeneptune
Yes but he hasn't been relevant for a while now
2022-05-18 03:19
2 replies
#43
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Brazil davidzor
Ok, that wasn't the point though, aside from that, numbers don't lie.
2022-05-18 04:42
1 reply
#48
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United States leeneptune
true true
2022-05-18 08:24
the mirage was even more overwhelming...😲😲😲
2022-05-17 06:21
Fallen_0_graffiti_olof_1_graffiti
2022-05-18 04:54
1 reply
#49
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United States leeneptune
not a grafitti but dont climb the fence sign makes that 2
2022-05-18 08:24
As igl ofc
2022-05-18 04:57
+1
2022-05-18 05:04
xyp9x 1v3 vs vp better
2022-05-18 08:41
#52
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Sweden Zolity
+1
2022-05-18 08:46
+1
2022-05-18 13:38
#59
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Brazil _bis0n
+1
2022-05-18 14:45
GuardiaN?
2022-05-18 14:46
device
2022-05-18 14:50
I agree, and I think cubble he can be n1 as well..
2022-05-18 14:56
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