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Biggest Fluke in Esport History
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Canada xXbananamanXx 
Team Spirit winning TI10 is absolutely the biggest fluke in the esport history, now they are back to the dog and get out of the major on the first day. Before TI10 they are not even a tier2 team and now they are back to tier3. The only possible way to have a bigger fluke is to let Team Spirit win CSGO Major (Which is likely).
2022-05-17 21:20
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Faze kato
2022-05-17 21:21
22 replies
No, kato is nothing compare to TI10
2022-05-17 21:21
FaZe Kato is not a fluke, ahahahahah
2022-05-17 21:27
Navi fans = low iq individuals
2022-05-18 00:21
10 replies
#107
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Czech Republic WysTaaN
flag
2022-05-18 14:38
+1 Navi Fans = low iq. Why root for a team you know is going to win, where is the fun in that?
2022-05-18 14:44
8 replies
#114
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Slovakia hassenux
You dont watch CS for long time, do you? NaVi up until recently was one of the worst teams to be fan of due to incosistency and frustration from unrealised potential on the roster.
2022-05-18 14:58
7 replies
They have been good for a while already, I know what I'm about, my point still stands
2022-05-18 15:33
6 replies
#119
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Brazil Miguer
Sorry but #114 stated facts, until around 2020 Navi was an org that just wasted potential and cultivated frustration
2022-05-18 17:38
5 replies
#120
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Turkey TheKaiser
It's 2022 lmao, 1.5-2 years is more than enough to consider them as a good team.
2022-05-18 17:41
4 replies
#130
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Brazil Miguer
Ight haha you got a point
2022-05-19 00:14
Not if you consider the 6yrs of disappointment before that
2022-05-19 09:41
2 replies
#136
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Turkey TheKaiser
I don't see how that relates to the "up until recently" part of OP's comment
2022-05-19 15:03
1 reply
if youve been wathcing navi since the beginning, their success would seem recent even if it has been nearly 2 yrs
2022-05-19 15:16
#67
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India Relunk
Such a fluke they won the next tournament
2022-05-18 00:49
2 replies
Yeah, the fluke was so big it spanned over two tournaments
2022-05-18 23:19
1 reply
#125
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India Relunk
Winning is not a fluke, that is the goal of the sport
2022-05-18 23:37
#69
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Bosnia and Herzegovina MattWaves
back to back events btw
2022-05-18 00:58
#73
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Nepal Zenrod
Fake flairing again?
2022-05-18 02:09
3 replies
??? Navi flair looks cool with BR flag, thats it
2022-05-18 02:11
2 replies
#89
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Brazil Diabo
it looks cooler with IMP because its green
2022-05-18 06:21
1 reply
Too much Green Mens))
2022-05-18 14:54
#80
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Singapore kmslol
flag and flair
2022-05-18 05:57
#2
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United States KhT
C9 Boston Major
2022-05-17 21:21
29 replies
at least they are famous team before that major and won some events
2022-05-17 21:22
13 replies
#11
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Europe JUNlOR
They were about to disband but then they won the major. I'd say that qualifies for the "biggest fluke in esport history"
2022-05-17 21:25
12 replies
it qualified but not "biggest"
2022-05-17 21:26
7 replies
#19
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Europe JUNlOR
Man, this argument could go on for days as it's purely subjective.
2022-05-17 21:28
5 replies
junior biggest bot to fluke into t1scene tho
2022-05-17 22:18
4 replies
#51
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Europe JUNlOR
what's he got to do with anything?
2022-05-17 23:51
3 replies
nothing personal my friend)))))
2022-05-18 00:01
#55
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Fiji Yotsugi
nt juni0r
2022-05-18 00:11
1 reply
#62
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Brazil danllst
+1 these "NT 'nameaproplayerwichsucks" always get me.
2022-05-18 00:28
that major win is basically the definition of a fluke lmao
2022-05-18 06:07
#46
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United States x2dtu
That was the same for 2015 envyus with cluj napoca
2022-05-17 22:17
meh they were top 5 and the only rly surprising win was against faze. they had beat every other team that they beat in Boston before. FaZe win was surprising but def not impossible they had been slowly getting better against them.
2022-05-18 00:08
#82
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Singapore kmslol
still disbanded after
2022-05-18 05:58
What? They disbanded later due to motivation issues (Skadoodle very specifically achieving what he wanted), but prior to that point they were playing well constantly. There wasn't any talk of disbanding until after the major.
2022-05-18 23:23
+1
2022-05-17 21:27
2 replies
I remember serbian flag and rain flair
2022-05-17 21:30
1 reply
Hmm, I don't, sorry :)
2022-05-17 21:33
+1
2022-05-17 21:34
nt we all know it was a fair and deserved win for FaZe Clan
2022-05-17 21:59
#64
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Ukraine d3adLY
gambit krakow is more fluke than c9 boston
2022-05-18 00:37
4 replies
#88
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Cyprus Porgos
I mean gambit beat all the great teams to the road on the finals, c9 did a surprising comeback, imo neither was a fluke, fluke was 2018 fnatic winning 3 tournaments with Katowice included
2022-05-18 06:20
3 replies
#95
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Ukraine d3adLY
gambit and c9 didnt win anything relevant before and after major(maybe only 1 t1 event), thats why its fluke
2022-05-18 11:32
2 replies
gambit practiced the most out of the rest of the teams before the major though, can't say the same for cloud9
2022-05-18 23:42
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#127
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Ukraine d3adLY
so? they didnt win anything relevant before and after major, so thats why its fluke
2022-05-19 00:05
Flair and they were a top 3 team, so you are just delusional lmao, C9 had one of the hardest matchups leading to the finals
2022-05-18 02:39
#83
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Singapore kmslol
+1 and valens cheated. They should revoke C9s major and give it to karrigan
2022-05-18 05:58
1 reply
GuardiaN* finally retires in peace
2022-05-18 06:09
#121
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Turkey TheKaiser
easiest +1 of my life
2022-05-18 17:42
+1
2022-05-19 00:07
#5
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Even if it is a fluke and not deserved, so what? A win is a win, as long as its done fairly. They did it fairly
2022-05-17 21:23
11 replies
Not even fair, many people think it is fixed
2022-05-17 21:23
10 replies
#8
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Yes, ans most of them are chinese because they do not understand how they lost to a team that barely got to ti at the first place
2022-05-17 21:24
8 replies
LGD showed dominance that year and continues it now, it is hard to believe that they made so many mistakes in that one grand final game.
2022-05-17 21:27
5 replies
#21
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Yep, and they were supposed to win it. But somehow spirit won them The biggest mistake was not banning magnus. That probably singlehandedly lost them the international
2022-05-17 21:28
4 replies
They actually showed that they can counter it well but I don't know, they just play like heralds during the last game.
2022-05-17 21:29
1 reply
#28
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Idk if you can call it a counter. It was played 4 times in the final. Twice spirit won in a dominant fashion. The game that they lost was on minute 50 vs late game spectre and tinker, which is practically impossible to do if those ppl know how to play. And last time psg stole magnus cs them and won in 24 min. That hero was too good, and 3/4 times it won in a dominant fashion. PSG didnt show that they can counter it
2022-05-17 21:33
bigger mistake was to rely solely on the tiny + lycan combo in that game tbh when spirit had shown that they countered it super well in the tournament also it hurt to see skywrath not buy shard that game (which is easily the most broken shards in the game btw) as a low armor hero vs physical damage
2022-05-17 22:18
1 reply
#49
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Yeah, but taking in count how well psg played all year long, they were certain that collapse magnus can be countered. Personally I was rooting very very hard for spirit(obv reasons) The biggest surprise was for me how they won the game with Naga. I don’t think it was meta hero at the time, and they still managed to steal it against Lycan Io
2022-05-17 22:21
#43
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Russia yazyaz
kinda funny that people who matchfox the most say that spirit matchfixed as well
2022-05-17 22:15
1 reply
#45
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
I know. It’s ridiculous. I remember I was watching NS streams, those were hilarious af. Nashi malchiki eto smogli :)
2022-05-17 22:16
many chinese people*
2022-05-17 21:40
Spirit winning TI10 was no fluke. They had 3 great players + decent support. Then they had that one gamebreaking guy who was chosen as the mvp who was absolutely great with maybe three heroes but for some reason, that I don't understand, opponents didn't counter him in veto most of the time. Instead giving him Magnus for free roam. It was like giving Big dust2 as decider map for every game. Not a fault of Spirit by any means if all other teams suck ass.
2022-05-17 21:24
16 replies
+1
2022-05-17 21:25
#10
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
That Magnus, holy shit. It was absolutely filthy
2022-05-17 21:25
1 reply
It was. That was the first TI I ever watched but damn I was happy I did. It was beautiful.
2022-05-17 21:26
#14
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Norway HologramM
How was your ride? ddamn that was legendary
2022-05-17 21:26
1 reply
Started watching MATUMBAMAN at Team Secret. Stayed to watch Team Spirit dominance.
2022-05-17 21:40
If giving free wins to the enemy team is not a fluke, what is a fluke
2022-05-17 21:28
1 reply
In general I don't think there really ever is a fluke, but. Fluke would be Faze winning Katowice because putin decided to wage was just before playoffs to make all cis teams distracted and play like shit. Fluke could also be exteme luck in draw during all the rounds. Basically some external circumstances that make the opposition be much worse than they should be. But not opposite team shitting the bed inside the server.
2022-05-17 21:33
LGD didn't want to ban it and when they got their strongest draft (tiny + lycan), Collapse still bodied them on Mag, it was some next level shid
2022-05-17 21:33
6 replies
I understand the logic, but I don't agree with it, the Magnus was so strong. But not that I'm wiser than them about this. The funniest thing was however when opposition picked the Magnus to deny it from collapse but couldn't replicate the effectiveness at all. So many teams fell to the magnus trap.
2022-05-17 21:38
5 replies
always easy to criticize in hind sight I guess, I dont think anyone could have predicted how well collapse was going to play, especially in game 5, which a lot of people already called for LGD after the draft banger series for sure, and a great storyline, good times
2022-05-17 21:43
4 replies
Easy to agree with what you said. Such storylines are always a joy to follow.
2022-05-17 21:50
3 replies
the only comparable TI for me was TI6 when Wings Gaming won, they had the crazy style of picking to counter, and off-meta strategies, instead of focusing on comfort picks. and huge underdogs that NOBODY picked to win, like Spirit. they (Wings) picked I think 40 different heroes in main event, and they went through the UPPER BRACKET!
2022-05-17 22:00
2 replies
Sounds great. 40 different heroes is definitely a huge amount. Sadly I was not following back then.
2022-05-17 22:06
1 reply
just checked and it was 40 out of a possible 55 xD, so only 15 times duplicate pick, those guys were on some next level BS sadly the team and org fell apart soon after winning, but then again the chinese scene has had it problems, especially back then You picked a great time to start though, like you said, one of the best tourneys in all of E-sports last year
2022-05-17 22:10
#57
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Namibia aimdemon
Collapse was untouchable at much more than 3 heroes and yatoro was godmode on like 15 different heroes you just couldn't outdraft them
2022-05-18 00:14
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Yatoro was great with so many other heroes, thats true. However my observation with collapse was that, while he was godlike with maybe three heroes, his quality dropped quite a lot if not getting one of those three.
2022-05-18 01:51
Fluked against OG, Fluked against VP, Fluked against IG, Fluked against Secret, Fluked against LGD, Heckin Spirit fluke TI.
2022-05-17 21:27
2 replies
All made stupid mistakes
2022-05-17 21:29
1 reply
Rofl by that logic every winner was a fluke
2022-05-17 21:30
Other regions had a full DPC tour season, EEU didn't, and you expect EEU teams to be as good?
2022-05-17 21:31
OG winning 2 TI is the biggest fluke not Spirit won a TI and LGD throwing no heroes without stun and letting Spirit have Magnus
2022-05-17 21:31
3 replies
That Magnus meta was so amazing to watch.
2022-05-17 21:56
1k mmr redditor take
2022-05-18 06:11
ayo where ur navi flair bro
2022-05-18 14:41
#44
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Canada firtlast
north winning epicenter, and optic winning eleague
2022-05-17 22:16
1 reply
#72
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Finland Vkims
Dignitas*
2022-05-18 02:01
That's why I love shooters esports. Dota 2 is too random, everyone can win everyone, there is no big skill gaps between top teams.
2022-05-17 22:24
3 replies
thats Valorant not Dota
2022-05-18 00:13
1 reply
Valorant = CS:GO, there is no difference almost. Yesterday evening I started watching some random silver 3 valorant stream to relax a little bit. In half an hour I found out it was match for major play-offs spot between FalleN and falmes. Tbh idk how u easily distinguish these videogames.
2022-05-18 00:32
Thats simply not true lol
2022-05-18 14:06
It’s all about getting hot at the right time. Look at the Habs last year. Got hot at the right time and made the Stanley cup finals. Came back 3-1 on the leafs.
2022-05-17 23:55
5 replies
#58
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Namibia aimdemon
No clue what canadian sport you might be talking about but your general point is very correct, spirit players were in godlike form riding an underdog wave on a great patch for their playstyle.
2022-05-18 00:16
1 reply
"canadian sport" haha its just hockey my friend
2022-05-18 05:48
Toronto is cursed ofc they lost
2022-05-18 00:39
2 replies
the fuckin finns ruining the leafs. go panthers lightning no 3peat
2022-05-18 05:49
1 reply
Leafs have ruined their self with the pressure of media
2022-05-18 23:18
Spirit is not going to win CS major Also biggest fluke is C9 Boston Major, by a mile, not even close
2022-05-18 00:24
this is the main problem with BO1s... the teams like Spirit and CHF can easily win a few one map games and then face off in a BO3. If Spirit play Furia and Heroic in a BO3 I doubt they go through
2022-05-18 00:31
#65
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Ukraine d3adLY
spirit ti10 or wings ti6, they disband after this TI lmao
2022-05-18 00:38
10 replies
wings ti6 played the most beautiful dota ever
2022-05-18 00:55
1 reply
#96
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Ukraine d3adLY
lmao no, they only had good players for every role, but zero strats
2022-05-18 11:33
wings before TI6 already dominating and couple months after they win TI too, they disband because the org are fucked up and their players getting banned because ACE sided with fucked up org lmao im glad that some of them making a comeback to high level competition.
2022-05-18 05:58
6 replies
#97
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Ukraine d3adLY
still this is fluke TI
2022-05-18 11:36
5 replies
then safe to say almost every TI winner are fluke too, even OG first time win are more fluke than wings if you see like that.
2022-05-18 13:59
4 replies
#106
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Ukraine d3adLY
OG was fluke too, both their wins, but wings didnt have tactics, they even picked pudge in final
2022-05-18 14:31
3 replies
"didn't have tactics" lmao they literally established the meta back then for playing fast and agressive it just their draft pick sometimes are weird af even they picked silencer as a carry in that game 1 and picked techies too in group.
2022-05-18 14:40
2 replies
#118
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Ukraine d3adLY
no, i think u forget this TI, everyone was saying that wings had very good Chinese players but bad tactics, they were like furia in cs but with 4-5 good players
2022-05-18 16:16
1 reply
How can i forget this OG meltdown TI as their dota2 fans lmao. And wings strats ain't bad it just unusual at that time because almost nobody playing that fast and aggresive with almost every hero like they do and it really work wonder for them since they're dominating for quite sometimes, so how that even bad? Even some team still using that kinda tactics nowadays sometimes. take LGD for example in last TI they literally play almost like wings except their draft are more polished. The biggest fluke of that TI was DC reach the finals and fnatic make it to top 4 not wings.
2022-05-19 05:52
Lmao i think some people just type random garbanzo for the sake of typing something. Embrassing
2022-05-18 11:52
#71
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Finland Vkims
Gambit Krakow 2017
2022-05-18 02:01
3 replies
Finally someone recalled it
2022-05-18 06:26
#98
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Italy MulaManca
both of the teams in that final were flukes, Gambit and fucking Immortals
2022-05-18 11:36
1 reply
#110
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Brazil hugoooo
Why? Immortals won some lans in 2016 and they beat some t1 teams during 2016 and 2017 Gambit was competitive in the EU scene for a long time already.
2022-05-18 14:42
(Which is likely) Ayy lmao
2022-05-18 02:43
i mean sometimes it happen that underdog win the tournament
2022-05-18 05:56
2 replies
+1 "fluke" just means that a team you don't like is peaking at the right time.
2022-05-18 12:05
1 reply
agreed, people tend to use word "fluke" are so easily nowadays lol if really work that way then almost every TI winner are fluked their way to win even for team like OG when they win their first TI in 2018
2022-05-18 14:07
NIP winning iem oakland
2022-05-18 06:06
#90
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Brazil ProdigioGG
Team liquid beating Penta of pengu (on their peak) on R6 siege pro league. For comparson this is like Furia beating the best Navi (or peak Astralis)
2022-05-18 06:26
1 reply
#91
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Brazil ProdigioGG
TL were joking around while beating the greatest lineup of all time
2022-05-18 06:25
Gambit major
2022-05-18 06:26
1 reply
#128
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Argentina cheapdeed
+1
2022-05-19 00:06
Yeah no. Spirit absolutely crushed their region after TI and played badly here simply because their synergy is off. Acceptable since they have had little to no practice thanks to the war. They practiced more right before the tournament in a bootcamp manner more than they did the whole DPC season. You look at only the results but the context is important as well.
2022-05-18 06:27
#99
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Italy MulaManca
In Spirit's defense, they had an amazing strat and teams like OG simply let them play it. The moment they beat OG I was like "this fucking team is winning TI", I shoul've placed a bet on it, that's one of the things I most regret in recent memory lol
2022-05-18 11:39
I dont see amy luck involved, they played beautiful dota, knew their win conditions very well(just like og the 2 years prior), executed their fights to perfection and also had a monster of a carry in yatoro who set a record of rampages in TI and played like 15 different champs during the tournament, all of them in a impresive manner. Lgd crumbling in the final(if you can call it that, they still took2 games) can be attributed to the pressure and spirit getting into their heads since they already got to top3 at 4 internationals and never won it Edit: to add to this, ofc they dont play this good rn, there is war, they probably dont care as much as they did for the biggest tournament of their lives(i remeber when they were asked in post final interview what their plans were they even after that much money they will consider not playing anymore) and og was shit too after the first ti they won and still won one more
2022-05-18 14:21
#112
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Brazil hugoooo
No tournament win can be called a fluke... No one wins the whole thing by luck or because EVERYBODY ELSE made tons of mistakes, it's a huge excuse for losers that can't handle betting or that are mad that their favorite got rekt. Flukes are related to winning A MATCH, then a fluke can happen. Anyone that wins A TOURNAMENT, deserved to win (unless they were favored by a bug, like G2, but they got what they deserved).
2022-05-18 14:46
Yes
2022-05-18 14:58
#116
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Russia evg1804
Nah, I knew it from the beginning of the TI10. Like every 10 years CIS-team wins this shit. Also TS is gonna win this Major (in cs), mark my words)
2022-05-18 15:08
optic india csgo team reaching xtremelands asia finals. XD
2022-05-19 07:07
#133
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Germany ChRiZOwow
Liquid at MLG Columbus 2016 against Luminosity
2022-05-19 09:40
#135
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Russia mshkoda
Team Wings on TI6 were also super-unexpected to win and then disappeared. Boston C9 quitaa agree
2022-05-19 09:42
how does ti10 correlate to csgo?
2022-05-19 16:09
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