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Devilwalk | 
Asia cheenu98 
Isn't the meta too CT-sided??
2022-05-19 20:10
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inferno too ct sided yes meta no
2022-05-19 20:10
9 replies
that's so weird because in early 2021 inferno was THE most T sided map in pro cs
2022-05-19 20:15
#22
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India gXser
Meta too ct sided? Yes /close
2022-05-19 20:19
2 replies
+1
2022-05-19 20:21
#85
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United States Xanbibi
+1
2022-05-19 21:18
META yes. Not Inferno. Look at Nuke, D2, Ancient, you call Inferno, Overpass. Check side win rates for the event.
2022-05-19 20:28
#47
L.K.S | 
Saint Kitts and Nevis Xeeh
You got that backwards lol Inferno is one of the least CT sided maps The whole meta is CT sided
2022-05-19 20:48
2 replies
Ofc CT side is easier for pro teams, but look at the recent inferno matches, lot of teams wasn't able to win T rounds, only CT rounds. It's way easier to attack in Mirage, Vertigo, Overpass, D2
2022-05-19 20:50
1 reply
#53
L.K.S | 
Saint Kitts and Nevis Xeeh
Just look at hltv map stats Inferno is the lowest CT sided winrate of any map in the pool.. it's barely over 51%
2022-05-19 20:51
The meta is absolutely CT sided, and Inferno is presently one of the most T sided/fair maps in te active duty map pool. That being said, it's still CT sided, but it's the most even.
2022-05-19 20:55
#2
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Belgium UniverseBot
yes. U wanna win? Start ct
2022-05-19 20:10
24 replies
#4
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Finland Vkims
Tell that to Nip
2022-05-19 20:11
3 replies
#6
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Portugal Mosh0
lmfao
2022-05-19 20:11
xd +1
2022-05-19 20:14
lol
2022-05-19 20:55
#5
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China Zhusha
Except when your name is NiP
2022-05-19 20:11
Faze literally won nuke and inferno starting on t side buddy
2022-05-19 20:11
15 replies
#13
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Romania GreenZye
2022-05-19 20:14
Because whoever ends on ct will win, cause its the last half, nomatter how far behind
2022-05-19 20:21
13 replies
No, that's not how it works. You clearly haven't seen the legend stage. Also, faze/navi in legend stage won everytime they started on ct side. Same for imperial most games. Same for ence. Where tf did u get that from. You clearly have an advantage if you start CT side and STOMP the other team with a big lead. Ofc the other team can comeback but???? That theory is so poor
2022-05-19 20:26
12 replies
#42
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United States kami917
FaZe started CT against NIP on Overpass, how come they didn't win?
2022-05-19 20:45
11 replies
«legend stage» It obviously wont work 24/7. Do you think there's a theory about winning or losing on whoever starts or ends on x side? Lol Faze clearly won both games because they could convert T rounds. Nip won 1 T round between inferno and nuke.
2022-05-19 20:48
5 replies
#58
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United States kami917
you're the one peddling the "start on ct side wins" theory. FaZe started on CT side against ENCE and lost that game too. I mean idrc, what you're saying is not necessarily true as we saw from NiP, because no matter how big of a lead you have going into t side, if you can't convert rounds then you'll lose everytime. It's easier to come back on ctside than it is on tside, so ideally starting T is the move in this meta.
2022-05-19 20:54
4 replies
No. I use that argument to co argue with his argument buddy. Cuz he said that whoever starts on t side and ends up on ct side wins. And i proved him wrong, so please, read, spend 2min to think about your read and then you're ready to join the talk
2022-05-19 21:13
3 replies
#81
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United States kami917
And i proved you wrong, its obviously better to start tside in this meta.
2022-05-19 21:14
2 replies
Okay, you win. GL!
2022-05-19 21:15
1 reply
#86
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United States kami917
You too <3
2022-05-19 21:55
#49
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Saint Kitts and Nevis Xeeh
Because they suck at beating round 2 force buys
2022-05-19 20:49
4 replies
#51
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United States kami917
+1 lmao true
2022-05-19 20:50
3 replies
#55
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Saint Kitts and Nevis Xeeh
win pistol round on both sides immediately turn that into 1-3 starts to each half
2022-05-19 20:52
2 replies
#61
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United States kami917
on the other side of that, the inferno 2nd round was such a kekw, how can no one be on or close to the bomb site while others go hunt? They definitely have a lot to tighten up.
2022-05-19 20:55
1 reply
#63
L.K.S | 
Saint Kitts and Nevis Xeeh
They can get away with that against the teams on this side of the bracket but they will not win the grand final playing like that
2022-05-19 20:58
Faze is better starting on T, they always have nice comebacks on inferno
2022-05-19 20:11
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#46
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United States kami917
all around better CT sided players, the entry roles for FaZe is kinda fucked as we saw in the earlier rounds of inferno, rain 0-10 karrigan 2-9. A lot of these hits they were losing was because they had shit utility usage. If they tighten that up, their hits and entries will come easier
2022-05-19 20:48
#103
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Canada qui9
depends, sometimes finishing on ct gets the win, like FaZe
2022-05-19 22:58
yes, buff krieg pls
2022-05-19 20:10
5 replies
buff ak , leg shot insta kill
2022-05-19 20:12
4 replies
+1 and nerf awp to 2 shot in head
2022-05-19 20:58
3 replies
wdym still OP
2022-05-19 20:59
1 reply
true, i mean it has a scope. Remove scope as well
2022-05-19 21:00
+1
2022-05-19 22:06
#9
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Denmark slacking
nuke and ancient are inferno not really
2022-05-19 20:12
game is incredibly ct-sided
2022-05-19 20:12
#14
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Europe Alek37
yes, game is ct-sided, and faze has the best ct side. that’s why they are the best in the world
2022-05-19 20:14
#16
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Croatia VTZU
wym? faze were just better they won 7 T rounds
2022-05-19 20:14
14 replies
#43
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Portugal Lost_fly
m4a1-s is too powerfull, before the buff inferno was the most 50-50 map now after the buff is clearly more ct sided and the % won ct rounds went up in all the other maps, not saying that faze didnt play better, they did but look at the overall stats before and after the buff
2022-05-19 20:45
13 replies
#45
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Croatia VTZU
idk i really like the ct rifle costing 2900 so i wouldnt nerf it
2022-05-19 20:46
11 replies
#54
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Portugal Lost_fly
stats and facts are indiferent to your feelings
2022-05-19 20:51
10 replies
#59
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Croatia VTZU
you mean you are upset that the game is ct sided and you are asking for nerfs so you can feel better?
2022-05-19 20:55
9 replies
#69
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Portugal Lost_fly
im looking at it from a objective view brother, no feelings involved, with this buff ct economy isnt so punitive and cts can abuse smokes in a game that cts already have position advantage if m4s doesnt get nerfed maybe buff kreig or something give ts more chances to win
2022-05-19 21:01
7 replies
#72
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Croatia VTZU
what is the objective side who says that the sides need to be 50% 50% ct side needs to be the better side
2022-05-19 21:03
6 replies
#74
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Portugal Lost_fly
more 50-50 sides lead to more interesting and unpredictable games but if cant see this, well carry on brother
2022-05-19 21:06
2 replies
ct side being better forces the t side to be tactically sound and not just take aim duel
2022-05-19 21:12
1 reply
#84
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Portugal Lost_fly
but that already happened, cts have position advantage, now they just spam through smokes hear the shots when they connect and thats it great game, deserves a standing ovation
2022-05-19 21:17
#59 -> "so you can feel better" #72 -> "ct side needs to be the better side" cringe moment
2022-05-19 22:00
2 replies
#95
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Croatia VTZU
because of map design and economy 0iq
2022-05-19 22:15
1 reply
"because of map design and economy" "ct side needs to be the better side" "so you can feel better" cleary 0iq.
2022-05-19 22:16
#59 you do know that he has to play both sides as well right? so he can't support one sided games. 13CT-2T half, pistol win -> map over. 8CT-7T half, pistol win -> map aint over. currently 13T-2CT is rare so let's fix that is what he's saying.
2022-05-19 21:59
Ak one shot to head m4 no so its ok
2022-05-19 21:15
yeah it is, nerf m4a1 and it's gonna be fine again
2022-05-19 20:14
2 replies
+1
2022-05-19 20:34
+1
2022-05-19 22:18
#20
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India udvibin
Its a good thing I guess, the better T side is the one who wins the game.
2022-05-19 20:18
6 replies
+1
2022-05-19 20:33
If you have the same ct side and 1 team is having a better t side than the other, then that team would always win regardless of map balance. Same goes the other way around, the map balance is irrelevant, if one team is better than the other on one side, and equal on the other, then they win
2022-05-19 20:36
4 replies
#35
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India udvibin
I too agree, but i think its the job of Ts to be creative and innovative to break into the defense of CTs, so the better T side, meaning more T rounds roughly translates to better team since CT advantage is similar to both sides.
2022-05-19 20:39
3 replies
Sure, but there is also a lot that you can do on the ct side, especially in pro play. I just think that map balance is "more fun" if it's closer towards 50/50, because then it matters what you do on both sides, any mistake gets punished, and you can implement new stuff on both sides and benefit greatly from that
2022-05-19 20:41
2 replies
#39
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India udvibin
I can definitely say I agree with that, a very valid point. I just never thought about it this way.
2022-05-19 20:44
1 reply
Always nice to have a friendly discussion about the game that we all love. I enjoyed it, have a good day(or night in india 🤔), and enjoy the major))
2022-05-19 20:45
Yes
2022-05-19 20:18
may have also been nip having no strategy going into their t-side during inferno. they were doing their best g2 impression
2022-05-19 20:19
1 reply
yeah usually NIP has a great t side on inferno, i think they have 55+% Winrate on T side inferno
2022-05-19 21:00
Game will always be more inclined to ct because less randomness when defending, if the team has good comms, and plans mistakes are very rare... T sides rely more on timings
2022-05-19 20:21
Its all about CT its kinda boring cause you know nomatter what whoever ends with CT side they probably will win
2022-05-19 20:23
2 replies
Are you gonna mention this until someone agrees with you? Delusional.
2022-05-19 20:33
What do you mean "ends with ct side"? Most people I've seen said that starting on ct side is an advantage, and I'd probably agree
2022-05-19 20:46
#36
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Romania Andreyl33t
Defence has been always stronger
2022-05-19 20:41
The Meta is CT sided. But FaZe just showed that it's easier when you have a solid T-side first. Later this year or in a year, they'll either nerf the m4a1-s, or buff a t-side weapon that will change the Meta again. This is CSGO.
2022-05-19 20:51
It is. Such an eyesore to see a CT spamming with m4a1s and most of the time, the Ts spend more time figuring out his position. Ridiculous tbh. They have to balance it somehow.
2022-05-19 20:52
1.6 was completly CT sided and pro teams always knew how to find a way around it. Honestly? I quite like it. Its different than 2021. They will change Ancient, thats for sure and maybe they will change M4's and game will change with it. I honestly like the changes from time to time. Makes the game more intresting
2022-05-19 20:53
In the last 6 months, CT side has accounted for roughly 55.5% of all round wins. In 2021, specifically leading up to the September M4A1-S Buff, CT Side had 51.3%. There are no more T sided maps left, as the last of them (Vertigo, Inferno and Dust 2) switched with the update. Historically, all csgo maps have been slightly CT sided, from about 50.5-51.5%. The buff of the M4A1-S has tilted the tables even further. The solution would be to price both M4A4 and M4A1-S at $3000 and reduce the magazine size or count of the M4A1-S. 20 Bullets in the magazine and 50 reserve in order to discourage spamming smokes (where no tracers make it OP) and to prioritize tapping. This would not only make the M4a4 more viable for people who spray, but make the M4A1-S less viable, both functionally and economically. We might then see a split between the M4A4 and M4A1-S and a reversion to more evenly sided maps.
2022-05-19 21:05
2 replies
it's just a difference of 1-2% . Why change such a little difference of percentage?
2022-05-19 21:58
1 reply
4% Seems like a low number, but compare how counterstrike games used to feel in comparison to now. That 4% feels like the game is a hell of a lot more CT sided than it really is. And the 4% is only the pro scene, players that are the most equipped to deal with a change in meta. The round share % probably shifted anywhere from 10-15% for lower ranked players, especially those who don't know utility to those who lack the fundamentals to deal with objectively worse odds at winning a round. Even more, that 4% is technically an 8-9% chance as 51-49 goes to 55-45.
2022-05-19 22:54
#75
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Nepal askyee
I dont have much problem with maps being CT favoured but right now its too much one sided. Rn if Ts gets more than 5-6 rounds its basically gg. Like even if they get 13-11 CT rounds there is still a way to comeback or at least make a close game (which happened quite a lot in the major alone) You cant tell me it's a good sign when most of time you can easily predict who's gonna win the map when for example on nuke/ancient (and actually most of the maps in the major) CT wins second pistol round and had around 6-7 rounds minimum. It's basically unlosable
2022-05-19 21:09
Inferno? CT sided Nuke? CT sided Ancient? CT sided Overpass? CT sided Mirage? 50/50 Vertigo? T sided Dust 2? T sided Answer: yes.
2022-05-19 21:09
5 replies
incorrect, friend.
2022-05-19 22:54
4 replies
Elaborate
2022-05-19 22:55
3 replies
Read #73
2022-05-19 22:55
2 replies
Kinda agree but inferno was never a T side map
2022-05-19 22:57
1 reply
Historically, it was roughly 51% T Sided, or at the very least in the last couple years.
2022-05-20 01:13
Yes
2022-05-19 21:11
#87
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Hong Kong sti11fac
Yes and it should be (60-40)
2022-05-19 21:56
#88
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Brazil dio_scuro
All maps CT sided, m4a1-s too broken...
2022-05-19 21:57
Odc it is haven't you read anything?
2022-05-19 21:58
just make it 3100, most problems would be solved
2022-05-19 22:00
1 reply
+1
2022-05-20 05:38
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