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Laos Afloure 
Would bo5 be good if it was exclusive to Majors? I think bo5 sucks so much cus people has seen it countless of times in useless B-tier events. seeing 5 maps played in a final once a year(sometimes more, sometimes less), Would it bring more hype? Or is every part of bo5 completely dumb? Personally, i like bo5, i just think it's a bit overused.
2022-05-19 23:05
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#1
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Somalia PartyShaker
bo5 is just boring
2022-05-19 23:06
2 replies
+1
2022-05-20 16:21
+1 i dont want to watch 7 hours of cs with either obvius result since its a 3-0 or 5 hours of not important maps just to go 2-2
2022-05-20 17:13
#2
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France marponche
bo5 is too long, doesnt bring anything more than a bo3
2022-05-19 23:06
14 replies
Yes it does??? 2 more maps lmao???
2022-05-19 23:08
12 replies
#14
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France marponche
its too long, way less exciting than a BO3
2022-05-19 23:08
11 replies
+1
2022-05-20 13:28
I mean with just the exception of Faze vs Fnatic Katowice 2018 BO5, It was really more interesting than many BO3s
2022-05-20 13:33
9 replies
and VP SK, I don't remember when but that is a top 3 bo5
2022-05-20 16:07
4 replies
Epicenter 2017
2022-05-20 17:00
3 replies
That last cobblestone game was a delight
2022-05-20 18:54
2 replies
Can’t believe CS been around for so long how is that like 5 years ago?
2022-05-20 18:57
1 reply
That's the Beauty of CS my friend It's more than just a game
2022-05-21 03:01
let's add the 2 G2 vs Luminosity series with that insane shox clutch on D2 and infero
2022-05-20 17:15
3 replies
Yea that Pro League one right It also included his famous inferno clutch
2022-05-20 18:53
2 replies
yeah exactly, that 1V4 retake on B was sick
2022-05-20 18:54
1 reply
Ahh, shoxie is a gawddd
2022-05-20 18:55
#17
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Finland FlNLAND
It brings at least 2 maps mote but nt
2022-05-19 23:08
no, bo5 horrible rather have a bo7 played over two days
2022-05-19 23:07
7 replies
how many maps would be played in 1 day?
2022-05-20 13:48
5 replies
first day 4 maps and if no one has won then next day other 3
2022-05-20 14:26
4 replies
#88
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Netherlands Verstappen
BS 1st day BO3 2nd day BO3, if 3:3 you play extra map ez
2022-05-20 16:10
3 replies
that would be cool
2022-05-20 16:14
This isn't actually a bad idea. Then we would know which team is actually the best considering all 7 maps on the map pool.
2022-05-20 16:20
1 reply
#105
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Afghanistan islandboi
nah each team should get 1 Veto. bo5 bestest for final
2022-05-20 16:28
nah, one map a day
2022-05-20 16:11
#4
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Croatia VTZU
bo5 are way too long only kids and losers have time for that
2022-05-19 23:07
9 replies
That hurts
2022-05-19 23:08
The Major is supposed to be the biggest, most important tournament of the year. It definitely also deserves the biggest grand final in my opinion, and most people who are passionate about CS could likely spare 5 hours on a Sunday
2022-05-20 13:29
3 replies
#59
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Czech Republic Evis1337
more like 8 hours with all commercial breaks and all issues they will have to solve because its pgl
2022-05-20 13:41
1 reply
Well ideally PGL doesn’t get any Majors anytime soon. And at least I personally use Advertising Breaks to get stuff done if I need to do anything
2022-05-20 13:43
#83
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Croatia VTZU
ok why not bo7 then? because its way too long? same with bo5
2022-05-20 15:59
+1
2022-05-20 16:11
another pleb who can't manage his time insulting others
2022-05-20 16:21
major final on weekend do you have a bad enough job that you dont get it off
2022-05-20 17:02
+1
2022-05-20 17:14
nobody has enough time to watch a whole bo5 between 2 competitive team in one go. And its tough on the players too
2022-05-19 23:07
49 replies
If you care you can definitely take 4/5 hours of your saturday/sunday. And if bo5 was rare, you would care. But since it's used 15 times a year it gets extremely tiring lmao
2022-05-19 23:08
27 replies
no bro people have work to do no normal person has 5hrs straight to watch cs unless they're under 18. I think the players performance drops off after 5 maps and it just makes for worse viewing
2022-05-19 23:09
20 replies
That's why majors should be longer than a week. (Incase they brought bo5). Put semifinals 1 weekend and the grand final(bo5) the other weekend. Ppl might be crying about the event being too long but it's supposed to be the biggest event of the year yet it's shorter than your average RMR lol
2022-05-19 23:10
11 replies
the length is fine bro you're just looking for a problem that does not exist
2022-05-19 23:11
6 replies
I'm looking for a solution to bring in even more viewers. Forums are made to make discussions, wether it's a problem or not isnt the topic here, lol.
2022-05-19 23:12
5 replies
#69
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Slovakia AdorrioN
BO5 would eventually lead to less viewers, especial those first 2 maps
2022-05-20 13:59
4 replies
+1
2022-05-20 16:13
Going by todays standards, agreed. That's why i'm saying that having it specifically for major finals would make bo5.. hear me out... special :OOO
2022-05-20 17:01
2 replies
#118
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Slovakia AdorrioN
My point still stands even on major, less people would watch it
2022-05-20 17:03
1 reply
That's just a theory though. LCS finals is 5 hours ish, they had an average viewer of 390k with a peak of 570k, more than last major. All things considered, making bo5 give off a more ''special'' feeling could bring alot more hype, it's literally impossible for us to tell beforehand if its a good idea or not(viewership wise) Everything works out if you're willing to put the time required to do so.
2022-05-20 17:07
#28
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
its much too long all the exitement would be gone
2022-05-19 23:12
3 replies
That's the thing, i think it would gain some excitement by putting the grand final in a seperate weekend, i might definitely be wrong though. It's a doublesided coin, if the grandfinal bo5 was to be faze vs navi, it would be super hype. On the other hand, if it was Na'vi vs Lilmix it would be completely predictable and there would be close to 0 hype lol
2022-05-19 23:13
2 replies
#35
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
honestly I think I would just forget about it during the week and then be underhyped the we but I guess that depends on the person you are
2022-05-19 23:16
1 reply
Ah, i suppose yeah
2022-05-19 23:17
#63
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Czech Republic Evis1337
i have 5 hours a day to watch even on work days. maybe you spend too much time masturbating or something.
2022-05-20 13:44
5 replies
maybe you should go out and find some friends and gf?
2022-05-20 16:15
4 replies
#98
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Czech Republic Evis1337
why would i need another girlfriend and more friends? 1 gf is enough and few real friends is enough.
2022-05-20 16:19
3 replies
"i have 5 hours a day to watch even on work days." than you dont spend enough time with your loved ones
2022-05-20 16:25
2 replies
#106
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Czech Republic Evis1337
i do. who are you to tell me how i spend my time? :D i have 10 + hours of free time on work days lol
2022-05-20 16:30
1 reply
ok :) i believe you :)
2022-05-20 16:34
Depending on where you work u could always just put in a headphone and watch on the side or just listen to commentary.
2022-05-20 14:04
1 reply
if that's the case, I would rather watch a replay at home but i dont think he meant the actual work, i believe what he meant is just work around the house and staff like that
2022-05-20 16:17
i care, but i cannot
2022-05-20 16:12
5 replies
How come?
2022-05-20 17:07
4 replies
family and friends 5 hrs is a lot of time, you kinda waste the whole day, 2-3 hrs is easy
2022-05-20 18:07
3 replies
If the reason is family and friends, sure, but theoretically you CAN still make time for a major 5 hours once a year. so not, you cant say that you ''cant'', its more like you ''wont'' and that's perfectly fine, friend.
2022-05-20 20:34
2 replies
i guess if you rephrase it like that, you are right but still, imo 3 hrs is a much more suitable format for the majority
2022-05-20 21:29
1 reply
Ah i agree, but that's how we see on it right now when bo5s are played in your average B tier tournament with 2 top 50 teams lmaoooo If it was more ''prestige'' iirc it would be more enjoyable, but i get your poitn aswell, dont worry.
2022-05-20 23:11
rofl... it just means you can't manage your time properly
2022-05-19 23:11
17 replies
pov: ur under 18 or unemployed
2022-05-19 23:11
16 replies
I'm 23 and employed and i can confidently say that i can put time to something that i like if needed?
2022-05-19 23:12
13 replies
5 hours straight with no interruptions? and what if the final isnt on a weekend. Ur just being difficult and looking for problems
2022-05-19 23:13
12 replies
5 hours straight witth no interruptions, obviously I'll go on peebreaks, get snacks etc, but they have pauses for that inbetween games. Also to your 2nd sentence.. #27
2022-05-19 23:14
How many major finals have you seen that aren't on weekends? Making 5 hours of time on a Sunday twice a year is not difficult to do while employed full time. If you can't find time to dedicate to a 5 hour window (that you're aware of the date for months in advance), you just don't know how to manage your time. Not wanting to spend 5 hours sitting and watching it is not the same as not being able to. There are definite negatives when it comes to BO5 finals, but people not having time to watch them should not realistically be one of those negatives.
2022-05-19 23:26
9 replies
+1 very Good Point imo
2022-05-20 13:31
if the major is in boston it could also affect the people for example europe but theres a solution to everything tbf
2022-05-20 13:41
any other sport is much less than 5 hours for a reason soccer, basketball, hockey, nfl, etc except work, people have families and other responsibilities your point "If you can't find time to dedicate to a 5 hour window, you just don't know how to manage your time" is only suites you, if right now I was still in college, I could've said "If you can't find time to dedicate to a 24 hour window, you just don't know how to manage your time" therefore, your point is irrelevant since it only works in your conditions
2022-05-20 16:23
6 replies
I mean football isnt less than 5 hours for the viewers though? Lmao
2022-05-20 17:03
Or well, none of those sports you mentioned are the length they are due to the viewership, lol.
2022-05-20 17:08
1 reply
im ok with your point about football, i dont watch it, so i cannot confirm but other sports are around 3 hours, so im not sure what u are talking about
2022-05-20 18:11
Also, #48
2022-05-20 17:09
1 reply
? where did i say anything about being boring
2022-05-20 18:11
There are sports that last longer than 5 hours in terms of game time, such as cricket. Also many sports have much longer than 5 hours in terms of broadcast time, such as with MMA promotions like the UFC where a standard broadcast is 6-7 hours. I know plenty of people around my age (I'm 27) that find the time to watch live UFC events every single week, staying up until 5am UK time. These are pretty much all people who are employed full-time, plenty of whom have children. Yes, some people have responsibilities that require them to be doing something else during the broadcast time - that's unavoidable and not what I'm referring to when I say if you can't find 5 hours of time you have poor time management skills. It does not "only suit me", 5 hours is a very short amount of time to dedicate to something. Fuck, most Friday nights after work I'm out drinking for significantly longer than 5 hours and so are most of my colleagues.
2022-05-20 18:00
Why would a major final not be on weekend?
2022-05-20 17:23
28 employed with a gf (almost 8 years together) and i can definitely say i have time to watch pretty much every major whole I just take 2weeks off every major or just don't work that match (did that pretty much every major in the past 3 years). And i would LOVE is finals were bo5. Like what the fuck is this excuse that you don't have 4-5 hours to watch your hobby twice a year? Give me a fucking break, so you never watch 3+ hour long movies or read a book for this long?
2022-05-19 23:31
1 reply
Even things like going out drinking with friends etc. is also often 5+ hours of purely leisure time, which is effectively the same commitment. If you can manage your work load properly and you get your priority tasks for the day completed before games start there's absolutely no reason why you can't have time. It's not even THAT difficult when time zones are an issue for you, I manage to catch almost every UFC card front to back which typically goes until 5-6am on a Sunday without that particularly interfering with my working or social life. That's usually around 6-7 hours almost every weekend that I can manage without issue while 27 and full-time employed. It's maybe a bit different for people with kids or those that work Sundays, but in those situations a BO3 isn't ideal either.
2022-05-19 23:45
#31
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
and also its like mega boring, like map 1 and 2 are usually useless af
2022-05-19 23:13
2 replies
Then ur not a fan of cs, and that's ok. But we who love cs:go would love to have major finals bo5
2022-05-19 23:31
1 reply
#48
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
I dont think we have the same conception of being fan of cs. I like watching cs for interesting, pressured maps, not just cs itself. Usually, map 1 is the I dont care map, of course they want to win it, but there are always 2 securities, and it makes players less full tryhard mode, wich I find boring.
2022-05-20 13:27
#6
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China Zhusha
bo5 is good but overused. Should only be used for the major grand final and for maaaybe cologne/katowice grand final. That's all
2022-05-19 23:07
#7
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Romania SplaXie^
BO5 is bad because there will be a at least 1 one sided map for each team
2022-05-19 23:07
1 reply
Depends, some teams like na'vi, faze and gambit(on the top of my head) has huge map pools
2022-05-19 23:08
#8
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Serbia eliiiiii_
BO5s are rarely hype BO3 is all we need to settle who's better
2022-05-19 23:07
1 reply
+1
2022-05-20 17:15
I think a Bo5 grand finals would be good for a major but I can see why some people dont like it. If you're dedicating your entire day to 1 Bo3 and it's a 2-0 sweep it's very anti climatic. I like to see a series go down to the wire.
2022-05-19 23:07
#10
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Finland FlNLAND
BO5 for Major Final is ok, but every game before that BO3 max.
2022-05-19 23:07
#15
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Finland Jonttu2002
Bo5 bad for players, viewers and competitiveness. Bo3 better in every way
2022-05-19 23:08
1 reply
Cus it's overused, no? I do believe that if it was STRICTCLY used for major finals, It could actually be good.
2022-05-19 23:09
bo5 too long but u could never enforce that. TOs free to do what they want.
2022-05-19 23:08
bo5 for Major is a must honestly... hope we get it one day
2022-05-19 23:10
6 replies
#70
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Slovakia AdorrioN
Hope we don't, what's the point of the first two maps which will probably be one sided because of map pool.
2022-05-20 14:03
4 replies
It could force the worse teams to learn more maps. It's really a teams problem that they can only play 2 maps and major is about who is the best team
2022-05-20 14:06
3 replies
#76
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Slovakia AdorrioN
But teams play more than 2 maps during tournaments. For example, Navi played 5 different maps out of 6 in playoffs
2022-05-20 14:08
2 replies
Yea and na'vi is righfully one of the best teams. I dunno man i've seen multiple bo5s and i was never bored. I'm not saying we should have bo5 in every tournament but in major it would definitely be an upgrade, since it's the most prestigious tournament
2022-05-20 14:09
1 reply
#78
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Slovakia AdorrioN
Fairs
2022-05-20 14:10
-1
2022-05-20 17:15
Bo5 takes too long for me. Bo3 is perfect for majors.
2022-05-19 23:10
Bo5 for a major would be fun
2022-05-19 23:13
3 replies
I think it wouldnt hurt to try atleast lol
2022-05-19 23:17
2 replies
Nah, if you have time for two bo3s you have more than enough tine for one bo5 Also the only players who complain about bo5s aren't in legends so who cars
2022-05-19 23:37
1 reply
#64
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Czech Republic Evis1337
yeah i binge watched all matches of this major and i have a full time job
2022-05-20 13:46
#42
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India SKS_1337
if bo5 is EXCLUSIVE to twice a year. yes it'd be awesome as fuck. No bo7 as letting teams have permaban is humanatirian + high qual cs on other maps.
2022-05-19 23:40
#43
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Poland brays
nope, bo3 is perfect
2022-05-19 23:41
#44
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India SKS_1337
also as usual brightest of hltv minds keep commenting "too much time, too broing" like bizzznaatttcchhhhh... 2 bo3s take max 6 maps. 1 bo5 takes max 5 maps. 2 bo3s take min 4 maps. 1 bo5 takes min 3 maps.
2022-05-19 23:42
Bo5 is the real way of showing who's team is better at that time Playing almost all maps Teams with permbans are at deficit Make flukes less possible There are 7 maps... Come on if you can win in 2 that's basically nothing Test the player more in every aspect
2022-05-19 23:43
2 replies
+1 it’s the ideal grand final for the tournament that is supposed to decide the cream of the crop of CS, in my opinion
2022-05-20 13:34
+1
2022-05-20 14:03
#47
Twistzz | 
United States Virgin Islands utu
nothing wrong with BO5s. the players are used to playing video games for 8+ hours straight, you don't get to the pro-level without being a degenerate gamer. a 5 hour match is a normal day for them, plus they get small breaks in between maps. I do think that the BO5 should be reserved for major. that would help give the major a "major" feel. I'd also like to see something done about pistol round balancing. in CS's CT side dominance, if you lose the pistol round on T side in an even match, you're most likely gonna lose the map, and will 99.9% lose if you follow it up with a CT pistol round loss. Pistol rounds should have a place in CSGO but they should be treated more as bonus rounds, I would like to see both teams get a full-buy after the pistol round, regardless of who won.
2022-05-19 23:49
I would rather see more bo3 on stages than one bo5
2022-05-20 13:29
3 replies
In an ideal world the Legend Stage would be on stage too in my opinion, but I don’t think that’s realistic anytime soon
2022-05-20 13:35
2 replies
valve has something similar for dota 2, they have like 5 weeks with a lot of matches: liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2..
2022-05-20 13:54
1 reply
Yeah but Dota gets all the love in the world while CS is mostly on life support, and I don’t feel like Valve will change their policy regarding CS anytime soon
2022-05-20 13:58
#56
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Denmark Derige
Bo5 is WAAAAAY TOOO LOONG! It will never be a good solution!
2022-05-20 13:36
1 reply
+1
2022-05-20 17:17
too long
2022-05-20 13:37
#58
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Finland HALPAMERSU
bo5 is good if it goes 5 maps, i think its boring cause it always goes 1-3 or 0-3
2022-05-20 13:37
#62
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South Africa bonkaz
BO5 with the current economy is just too much.
2022-05-20 13:43
A bo3 without over time lasts like 4 hours already, what's the point? How many hours do you want it to last? What other sports or games have 4 hour finals? And you want to bump it up to 7 hours
2022-05-20 13:48
I personally like BO5's purly because its best for competition. Even though some players may complain about it, you will never see the better team lose in a bo5 - its a marathon not a spring, and that kinda mindset is what champions should have. It shows which team has the deeper map pool, and who can stand the test of time across a long grueling series of cs. For entertainment i guess its not the best, but I'm all for having the best competitive enviroment.
2022-05-20 14:03
#74
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Germany mrzxea_cs
Its just way to long. I struggle to even watch full bo3s. Its just exhausting for the viewers but also the players to watch/play cs for such a long time.
2022-05-20 14:05
bo5 is 3 to 5 maps, i think on average each map on usually takes 1 hour on pro scene, which in total makes 3-5 hours + breaks it's just too much for both viewers and for players too
2022-05-20 14:11
#80
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France HippzZ
Once or twice a year, why not
2022-05-20 14:23
bo5>bo3
2022-05-20 14:31
what about bo1 final?
2022-05-20 16:01
#85
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Sweden multib
For major finals only I think it's fair. Because in bo3 you can win with some luck. In bo5 both teams flukes during that match will have time to even out and the team that wins is surely the better team.
2022-05-20 16:06
#87
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Romania brevoxyl
BO5s would only be acceptable if we would make them MR12, otherwise the matches are too long. And it should be done only for majors and prestige tournaments.
2022-05-20 16:08
#90
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Poland kardi3
BO5 is too long, nobody is watching that. At the same time I feel like BO3 is just not enough for a major final. How about if they play 3xBO3s over 3 days. First to 2 wins = champ. You reduce the luck/having a good day factor, you keep the plot interesting + more viewership = more money
2022-05-20 16:11
Nah too long
2022-05-20 16:13
most people are not patient enough to sit and watch cs for 5 hours. it would just lose a lot of hype. think bo3 is best.
2022-05-20 16:26
If they're gonna do a BO5 they should make it last 2 days if it goes more than 3 maps on the first day. At least the level of CS would be high on all 5 maps (if it comes to 5 maps) and nobody would get tired. This 1 day BO5 thing is good only for nerds who screech about imaginary competitive integrity or whatever.
2022-05-20 16:30
#108
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United States nobelisk
BO1s are too short and BO5s are too long, BO3s are where its at.
2022-05-20 16:32
i totally agree. For instance i can't get enough G2-Faze Katowice game although it was bo5. So if it's exclusively for Major it would be just fine
2022-05-20 16:35
It cant be exclusive, event organisers dont need to listen to VOLVO
2022-05-20 16:36
#112
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Czech Republic poledne
i think it would be nice to do bo5 with like 2 maps played on 1 day nad next day you paly 3 maps .. would be legendary and people would like to watch it more .. i mean no one would liek it at first but it is good idia.
2022-05-20 16:56
bo5s are horrible
2022-05-20 16:59
the biggest problem with bo5s makes it feel like the first maps for each team don't matter as they still have to win another 2
2022-05-20 17:04
I think you should do bo5 in majors and Katowice and Cologne. Makes it more exclusive but personally I like bo5 a lot
2022-05-20 17:04
Why is a Bo5 final the topic and not getting rid of Bo1s in the group stage?
2022-05-20 17:08
From an arena perspective bo5 are great, people would get a lot of bang for the buck especially if it goes 5 maps. Also less likely that a fluke team wins. Froma casual viewer from home and also for players themselves bo5 seem like too much. Especially if some mals go full 30 rounds or OT then the whole series is 5+ hours easily
2022-05-20 17:12
nah bro. doesnt make any sense whatsoever to play a bo5, it does not matter if is major final or group stage games. the players will be fatigued if the series prolongs to 4/5 maps, which is most likely 5 or 6 hours playing. We as viewers (most of us i'd say) dont have the time to spend watching a 5 hour game and the players/casters themselves will all be fatigued and it just isnt enjoyable to watch
2022-05-20 17:17
reminded me of this GOAT tournament that is happening rn liquipedia.net/counterstrike/TippmixPro_..
2022-05-20 17:25
bo3 > bo5
2022-05-20 18:56
make BO4 and than trowing nades to ech other more damage team will win
2022-05-20 18:57
#151
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Sweden b0ncenz
BO3 is just better. Us viewers dont have to sit and watch a game go on for 6-7h hours of the same teams, gets kinda boring after 3-4maps. The players dont have to prep for 5 maps in one game, BO3 they prep for maximum 3 maps depending on opponent. BO5 is just boring and takes to long
2022-05-21 03:07
B05 is good in almost other games, in csgo it just makes it low energy, its supposed to be a high energy game. I would like to see double elim though.
2022-05-21 03:09
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