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Why final at 20:00?
Austria Oreocookies 
Sunday 20:00.... Imagine if it goes all 3 maps with multiple overtimes.... I can't stay up all night. I gotta wake up at 6am for work on Monday. Why not do it at 14 or 16? Better for everyone.... Us,europe, Australia....
2022-05-21 22:11
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Watch a replay...
2022-05-21 22:12
32 replies
Would be hard to avoid spoilers lol
2022-05-21 22:13
7 replies
#197
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Sweden snallan
Not at all actually, I have watched entire major through vods and havent been spoiled once. You can hide results in your profile settings
2022-05-22 11:04
4 replies
tks
2022-05-22 11:34
1 reply
#223
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Sweden snallan
TKS is the leading telecommunications provider for U.S service members and the entire English speaking community in Germany - offering telephone, internet, mobile, and television services.
2022-05-22 11:46
pfu, watching replays is boring
2022-05-22 12:00
1 reply
#232
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Sweden snallan
no different from watching it live on twitch, imo
2022-05-22 12:31
edit:
2022-05-22 11:26
It isn't actually, you could just watch the highlights from a video on YouTube, that won't spoil it for you, just make sure you don't look at the comments on the video
2022-05-22 14:20
0/8 take
2022-05-21 22:13
1 reply
big L
2022-05-21 22:32
so bad take
2022-05-21 22:31
#75
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Kyrgyzstan katsumii
hopefully you get 10 yeared for this
2022-05-21 22:31
5 replies
+1
2022-05-21 22:35
+1
2022-05-21 23:16
#179
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
+1
2022-05-21 23:28
+1
2022-05-22 10:51
+1
2022-05-22 10:56
#79
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Czech Republic Hyna12
No way you said that
2022-05-21 22:32
what a boomer
2022-05-21 22:32
wtf men?????
2022-05-21 22:32
#104
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Czech Republic Ventraks
no way you did this bro...
2022-05-21 22:34
#115
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Singapore FallBlade
-1
2022-05-21 22:36
#122
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Sweden FujinWoW
more like why major only bo3
2022-05-21 22:38
most hated reply on hltv?
2022-05-21 22:41
world is not ready for your huge brain...
2022-05-21 22:59
congrats i think you are about to be ratio'd harder than thorin. which i didnt think was possible.
2022-05-21 23:16
2 replies
I have no idea why all the hate. I just made a suggestion for the opening poster's issue.
2022-05-21 23:25
#210
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
+1
2022-05-22 11:26
yea nah pls logout
2022-05-22 11:01
İts not the same
2022-05-22 11:05
0iq take
2022-05-22 11:27
ratio
2022-05-22 11:53
8pm is prime time..
2022-05-21 22:13
12 replies
No its not
2022-05-21 22:13
5 replies
maybe not for little kids like you
2022-05-21 22:15
4 replies
The little kid is you
2022-05-21 22:16
3 replies
what? will you go to sleep a little later? what a problem!
2022-05-21 22:25
2 replies
You're max 16
2022-05-21 22:26
1 reply
hopefully
2022-05-21 22:26
On Saturday maybe. But not on a Sunday
2022-05-21 22:14
2 replies
True, it would be great if they put it at 6PM, u know, to watch it with a nice dinner, but deffo not at 8
2022-05-21 22:26
1 reply
+1
2022-05-21 22:32
#111
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Czech Republic Ventraks
6pm
2022-05-21 22:35
+1, no one who has life doesnt want this final to start mid day xD lmao
2022-05-21 22:38
#139
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CIS lua_
Not on a Sunday.
2022-05-21 22:50
its a bo3 but would have preferred it an hour earlier
2022-05-21 22:14
Coz most of viewers are from SA and that hour is just perfect
2022-05-21 22:13
13 replies
no they are not
2022-05-21 22:19
12 replies
Exaggerated, of course, but if you put the time at 14/16 as the man said, you lose the mayority of Americas.
2022-05-21 22:22
11 replies
And if u put it at 8pm you lose majority of eu/cis and most likely all of australia. Putting it 2-3hours earlier is fine for everyone. Dont come and tell me now that 10 or 11am would be too early for americans lmao
2022-05-21 22:24
10 replies
Come on, we are talking about a bo3 here, 8 pm is just fine man. Maybe it last 3 hours, MAYBE, and its still 11 pm in EU. And Australia??? You have only 25 million people there versus 1 billion in America, come on.
2022-05-21 22:27
5 replies
Not wasting more time on you
2022-05-21 22:29
3 replies
Oh well, AmErIcAs as you guys say
2022-05-21 22:29
Nice edit btw lol
2022-05-21 22:31
1 reply
child.
2022-05-22 11:30
#118
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1
2022-05-21 22:37
You don't lose anything, 8pm is normal for most venues everywhere.
2022-05-21 22:27
8pm doesn't lose Europe bro, quit the ganja if it makes you feel better, as a faze fan literally the only match I had to miss from the boston major was the final, because I was sick and my parents wouldn't let me lol
2022-05-21 22:30
If the Game starts at 18:00 CEST its midnight for australia. It literally doesnt change a thing, they wont be able to watch it either if they have to go to work.
2022-05-21 22:36
#186
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Australia opzy
Hate to say it bro, dont think any organizer gives a shit about the 5k australian viewers
2022-05-22 09:38
+1 Just start like 2-3 hours before, cant see the problem if they started the final at 5 or 6pm
2022-05-21 22:13
2 replies
ofc you cant see problem when you are from austria
2022-05-21 22:24
#121
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
No thanks
2022-05-21 22:38
14 - 16 eu is bad for NA and SA ?? its at a good hour for all zones , they know when to put it.
2022-05-21 22:13
11 replies
???? 16 eu would be 10am in ny 7am in california 11am in Brazil Seems fine to me except maybe California.. so maybe 18eu time?
2022-05-21 22:16
9 replies
7 am and 11 am is fine ? nah man and 8 pm eu is prime time , i really see no problem here
2022-05-21 22:16
6 replies
If u really think this u are max 16
2022-05-21 22:19
5 replies
uhmmm ... okay ? .. what is prime time in ur all knowing opinion
2022-05-21 22:21
3 replies
U know that people have to go to work when they grow up? You will someday learn it!
2022-05-21 22:33
2 replies
i work so what ? i sleep after game at 11 12 and wake up at 6 .. whats the problem my friend? u need to sleep 12 hours ? then dont watch game , fkin crybabies
2022-05-21 22:34
#127
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Youve never gone to work tired??????? Bruh if 11-12 is too late for you then idk what to tell you. Stop acting like everyone is a kid. Drink a coffee and deal with it or take a sick day. I sleep at 10-11 usually and get up at 7am. Its not that bad
2022-05-21 22:40
he is still older than you lol
2022-05-21 22:31
Bro you are such a dumbass troll
2022-05-21 22:35
#157
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Brazil setsz
its 3pm in brazil 😎
2022-05-21 23:08
+1
2022-05-21 22:19
finals that end like at midnight are the best, the vibes are unreal
2022-05-21 22:14
7 replies
+1
2022-05-21 22:21
#61
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Czech Republic Evis1337
they are the best if you are 14 year old kid unemployed and dont have to be anywhere on monday.
2022-05-21 22:29
5 replies
>14 year kid >unemployed you can easily have a day where you sleep less than usual, I will do it
2022-05-21 22:31
3 replies
#84
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Czech Republic Evis1337
im not going to sleep 4-5 hours just because PGL are a bunch of morons. the final it was supposed to start at 6pm and they changed it now to 8pm.
2022-05-21 22:32
2 replies
if you can't sacrifice a couple hours sleep, why would you expect PGL to sacrifice the GIGANTIC SA crowd? :D
2022-05-21 22:46
1 reply
#183
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Czech Republic Evis1337
you guys get up at 3pm on a sunday? gigantic SA crowd is not happening. its russian + faze final. in russia its even later than 9pm CET for it to start.
2022-05-21 23:37
awwww will you be up too late you will miss mummy tucking you in.
2022-05-21 22:33
I remember iem sydney when I would wake up at 5 am, watch cs for 2 hours before going to school
2022-05-21 22:14
5 replies
#29
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Hungary szia
europeans love to complain about times of events when they actually most often have the most convenient times :P
2022-05-21 22:19
4 replies
Bullshit
2022-05-21 22:19
3 replies
What are you on? 8 pm is pretty fine. Stop complaining so much holy. You need 12 hours of sleep like a little baby ha?
2022-05-21 22:40
1 reply
Nah, a normal person should sleep 8 hours and most people wake up at 6 am. When i wake up at 5 am its not convinient, because if its gonna be a good final, its gonna last at least 2-3 hours
2022-05-22 11:20
how are you going to say bullshit when most events are played in europe? that makes it guaranteed to be played at an optimal time for you.
2022-05-22 09:53
#13
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Ukraine Valta
sometimes u have special thing in life and u gotta be tired in work / school
2022-05-21 22:15
2 replies
#125
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United States MAX___
+1000, there are only two major finals per year
2022-05-21 22:39
Exactly, it doesn't fucking kill to sleep less occasionally
2022-05-22 11:28
This is a fine time
2022-05-21 22:15
1 reply
No it's not.
2022-05-21 22:16
dont worry faze will 2:0 this just for you. 16:5, 16:3
2022-05-21 22:16
They should've made it 2 hours earlier
2022-05-21 22:17
Because they want to milk Gaules viewers :))
2022-05-21 22:17
1 reply
lol gaules right now only 130k now need to wait him
2022-05-21 22:21
#23
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Pakistan LoOuU2
oh god i just noticed that its at almost 12am midnight here and i gotta be up at 6 in the morning no final for me, F
2022-05-21 22:17
2 replies
6 for school or work?
2022-05-21 23:15
1 reply
#181
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Neither, for pleasure. It's for a day out with friends that I was a major reason behind arranging and making it happen.
2022-05-21 23:32
8pm is good, better for amercian viewers too
2022-05-21 22:17
#25
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United Kingdom Bullitead
It’s so NA can watch live and see how much better EU/CIS is.
2022-05-21 22:17
I have to wake up at 5 am. rip
2022-05-21 22:17
who fcking cars mens)))
2022-05-21 22:18
#33
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Finland Emvi
Yeah, no final for me either probably. They want to prefer the americans I suppose. I don't know why, but they do. Unlucky for most navi fans too
2022-05-21 22:20
#34
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Turkey BlackOwL
19.00 best
2022-05-21 22:21
#36
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United States kami917
thank god i can actually watch a match without having to wake up early
2022-05-21 22:21
2 replies
11am early hahaha
2022-05-21 22:22
1 reply
#133
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United States kami917
9 AM early after going to bed at 4 mens))
2022-05-21 22:44
grow up and dont sleep.
2022-05-21 22:21
#42
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United Kingdom spxrkk
because they have obviously calculated it and will have the most viewers (will be able to be seen by most regions)
2022-05-21 22:22
2 replies
source: guessing Game
2022-05-21 22:30
1 reply
#241
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United Kingdom spxrkk
its just common sense that a multi million company will calculate and look into things like this
2022-05-22 16:49
+1 i have school !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2022-05-21 22:22
sorry but this is so stupid from PGL how do they get to host a second major??? pls esl or blast next time...
2022-05-21 22:22
2 replies
This is PGL's third major. Also blast doesn't want to host
2022-05-21 22:54
1 reply
neither does ESL haha, it's just PGL that wants to host right now
2022-05-22 11:39
I would understand 18-19, but no way you said 14, stop baiting ffs
2022-05-21 22:24
i have to wake up at 6.30 am game starts 21.00 but its full fine i get 5-6 hours sleep stop bitchin and drink some cofee in mornik.
2022-05-21 22:24
2 replies
thats kinda ok-ish I have to wake up at 5:00 AM :D
2022-05-21 22:31
+1
2022-05-21 22:40
who cars its gonna be quick 32-0 for faze anyways you'll get a lot of time to sleep
2022-05-21 22:24
#56
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
i also wake up at 6am, just drink some caffeine duh
2022-05-21 22:28
#57
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Czech Republic Evis1337
I guess I will get to watch only 1 map then
2022-05-21 22:28
cry is free
2022-05-21 22:28
who tf goes sleep bfr 12 am :D
2022-05-21 22:30
#64
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Croatia VTZU
you will live is you sleep less one night
2022-05-21 22:30
EU PROBLEMS HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA ))
2022-05-21 22:30
whats the problem with 8pm xD lol when you go to bed ? i normal go to bed 1-2am and get up at 6:30
2022-05-21 22:31
#74
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Israel b0ttt
why no bo5? (serious question) arent grand finals always 5 maps?
2022-05-21 22:31
4 replies
Not in PGL
2022-05-21 22:34
2 replies
#206
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Brazil _Awper
Not in Majors actually
2022-05-22 11:24
1 reply
Oh sorry and thank you for correcting
2022-05-22 12:40
I don't think Majors are ever BO5
2022-05-21 22:54
stay up all night use caffeine tomorrow simple as
2022-05-21 22:32
Fits good for EU and NA :)
2022-05-21 22:32
#80
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Argentina Aleeee
luckily here is at 15:00
2022-05-21 22:32
2 replies
See look you answered his question
2022-05-21 22:32
1 reply
#89
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Argentina Aleeee
not trying to so...
2022-05-21 22:33
We gamers are against early bedtime 😡😠😡
2022-05-21 22:32
#83
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Estonia Kukkel
Better ask why it's not BO5?
2022-05-21 22:32
3 replies
because bo5 sucks ass for everyone
2022-05-21 22:33
2 replies
#96
BDSM | 
Estonia Kukkel
no, If it goes all 5 maps then you can go to sleep and continue watching when wake up.
2022-05-21 22:33
1 reply
true true
2022-05-21 22:36
"I can't stay up all night. I gotta wake up at 6am for work on Monday." So you cant stay up to ~23:30? lol. Thats still 6½ hours of sleep. I sleep about 3½-5½ hours per night.
2022-05-21 22:33
then don't watch :D
2022-05-21 22:33
sad thats bo3
2022-05-21 22:33
1 reply
#99
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Estonia Kukkel
+1
2022-05-21 22:34
Babies need to sleep always. Adults can work it out with one night of short sleep 3-4 hours.
2022-05-21 22:33
2 replies
Yes and die at 50 from heart attack
2022-05-21 23:01
1 reply
One would likely die sooner than at the of 50 if don't enjoy life due the depression and stress.
2022-05-22 09:37
#101
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Russia Soawii
bo3 lasts 4 hours MAX. what's the problem lol? getting 1 hour less sleep is hard for you?
2022-05-21 22:35
#102
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Romania GreenZye
real men take a leave
2022-05-21 22:34
mfer cant sleep 6 hours
2022-05-21 22:34
Then sleep afternoon before match starts????? Lol
2022-05-21 22:35
it will end at very worst, at 00;00. u have 6 hours of sleep, stop being such a crybaby
2022-05-21 22:35
1 reply
ah yes. because everyone falls asleep instantly.
2022-05-21 23:14
#113
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Spain moorakami
10pm for me bro monday's gonna be hard at work
2022-05-21 22:36
sleep less tomorrow and when you come home after work take a nap, 1 day without 8 hours of sleep is not that hard.
2022-05-21 22:37
14 or 16? This time sucks ass, only good time for bo5s
2022-05-21 22:37
ez having monday free day
2022-05-21 22:37
call out of work
2022-05-21 22:37
24 y/o crypto bros have to wake up to got to a job and can't stay till 11pm :-(((
2022-05-21 22:39
But why is it bo3 and not bo5 like iem???
2022-05-21 22:40
#129
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Latvia Tibro
are you dumb becouse some still work in that ;D
2022-05-21 22:40
2022 and this people don't know COFFEE...
2022-05-21 22:49
1 reply
#178
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United States zovint
Coffee increases heart rate rip It will make you die sooner
2022-05-21 23:27
#137
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United States amba01
i wouldnt mind it starting maybe an hour earlier but for a lot of people in the US its too early... u can sacrifice one good night of sleep for a major grand final. just drink lots of coffee the next day
2022-05-21 22:49
3 replies
imagine saying 9 or 10am would be too early
2022-05-21 23:13
2 replies
#174
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United States amba01
imagine saying 8pm is too late
2022-05-21 23:20
1 reply
amba01 1-0 Oreocookies
2022-05-22 11:46
weak men who need 8 hours of sleep, can't take one night with less sleep.. LOL
2022-05-21 22:50
1 reply
All the best athletes get 8+ hours of sleep
2022-05-21 22:59
In the UK it's on at 7pm, which isn't too bad on a Sunday.
2022-05-21 22:54
We have a long weekend because of victoria day so the love for twistzz is going to be strong asf tomorrow!
2022-05-21 22:56
its 11 am for me, i can watch the final and still have the evening for myself, ezpz
2022-05-21 22:57
1 reply
NA Swag 😎
2022-05-21 22:58
It catches the NA and Brazilian crowd, 20:00 is 2pm east coast 11am west coast. And 3 maps will go to 23:00 to 24:00 at the most.
2022-05-21 22:58
1 reply
do it 2hours earlier. 12am east, 9am west. if its 3maps than we are done at 21 or 22 which is perfect for a healthy 8-9hours of sleep.
2022-05-21 23:10
Because of more Brazilian viewers = more €€€
2022-05-21 22:58
haha i doubt you are going to sleep if its 3rd map 11-11
2022-05-21 22:59
maybe get educated and get a job that doesnt require working from 6
2022-05-21 23:03
3 replies
i said i have to get up at 6. not that it starts at 6
2022-05-21 23:08
2 replies
any loser that gets up at 6 obv has to work some subway job or clean a street or collect cans on the street before the sweepers clean them up
2022-05-21 23:18
1 reply
#233
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Romania Peanspey
Average favela brain
2022-05-22 12:40
3pm-5pm-ish last premier league matches of the season, anyone who cares about football in the slightest will be watching this to see if Liverpool can do it
2022-05-21 23:03
4 replies
Liverpool may not get the premier but there is a UCL waiting for them in 6 days so I don't think they mind a second place in the league
2022-05-22 11:15
2 replies
Yes I would love for us to win the league, absolutely incredible if we can pull it off but it's not in our hands anymore; the CL final though, we can win
2022-05-22 14:06
1 reply
+1 real is tough but it's payback time for 2017
2022-05-22 14:09
#226
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CIS Guymens
+1
2022-05-22 11:51
agreed, it should start at 16:00
2022-05-21 23:10
This just shows how much you love the game, the atmosphere. You just sacrifice 1 hour of sleep for the price of a great experience. So what's the problem? And by the way, even though it's Sunday at 8:00 p.m., it's still prime time.
2022-05-21 23:10
#163
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Finland RPGWiZaRD
Really???? I wish I was able to go sleep that early like you. Normally go like 2 AM when I wake up 6:55 for work, I couldn't even fall asleep before 00:00 if I tried.
2022-05-21 23:12
1 reply
very unhealthy, but very relatable :\
2022-05-21 23:16
#166
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Germany MTD3
Oida. some things are more important than work.
2022-05-21 23:14
could be at 18.00 or something
2022-05-21 23:15
8pm in EU is also good for the Americas
2022-05-21 23:19
you can't stay up for 1 of the 2 majors of the year? NAVI is winning it in regular time 2-0 anyway so no worries
2022-05-21 23:21
#177
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United States zovint
Navi is Gonna win the major anyways go to bed that day
2022-05-21 23:26
You're a grown man, you can sort it out.
2022-05-21 23:30
Just buy 5 energy drinks 4Head
2022-05-21 23:35
probably for everyone to see because of the time difference. Here is like 13:00
2022-05-21 23:37
+1 should be at 18:00
2022-05-22 09:54
it would be better at 18:00, 20:00 can become very late. But its probably to get more viewers from SA/NA
2022-05-22 10:02
Same i gotta get up at 4 in the morning, i'll be able to watch the first map and still get some decent sleep i guess :/
2022-05-22 10:52
You talk about 20:00 ? It's fucking starts at 23:00 here Do it atleast 2 hours earlier wtf
2022-05-22 10:58
Okay if it was friday, id understand, but cmon sunday night? bro start it like 7pm or smth what do u gain
2022-05-22 11:00
#196
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Europe mTys
yeah 20:00 is stupid
2022-05-22 11:03
You're lucky, in my time zone, the final will start at 2:00 AM
2022-05-22 11:08
Imagine being pissed for having it being 20:00 for you, for me it's one hour later, if it was 20 EEST it would be Gucci but what you know it's not, still you don't see me complaining
2022-05-22 11:11
I missed all the game for the past 2 weeks because they were played in the morning in america. Every goddamn tournament i miss most of the matches or have to wake up at 4am to watch a final. For once a year, you have to stay up for 1 more hour and you cry about that? Gtfo!
2022-05-22 11:13
The Problem is that so many Countrys watching the final and you cant do it right for everybody. so you have to accept the time they play, some countrys are up the whole night to watch the Finals. The last Major i had to wake up the next day at 5 to work, i still watched it. this Major i worked a 6 day week until yesterday and have Monday free so i can enjoy the finals :)
2022-05-22 11:16
1 reply
but there is never one correct time for all people over the world to be happy
2022-05-22 11:47
bruh how much sleep do you need
2022-05-22 11:15
#207
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Other _n1ght
Works for me lol
2022-05-22 11:25
#209
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Reunion _VetriX
same :(
2022-05-22 11:25
Wage cucks malding. World doesn't revolve around you. Nobody cares about your irrelevant life and your shitty job, don't try and sound important. You're not.
2022-05-22 11:28
1 reply
relax kid
2022-05-22 11:52
it starts at 1 AM here
2022-05-22 11:32
Any kind of final in any kind of sport should be at night time.
2022-05-22 11:32
16-0 16-0 for ropz easy sleep
2022-05-22 11:39
lol im gonna watch the final get hammered go to bed at like 2-3am and get up 6:40 to work xDD no problem
2022-05-22 11:39
agree, 2-3 hours earlier would be a lot better
2022-05-22 11:42
#225
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Sweden greger001
doesnt matter when it starts, not watching it anyway.
2022-05-22 11:49
#228
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Turkey sedo7
not really, it will take 2hrs at most, 32-2
2022-05-22 11:52
#230
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CIS ateezy
it is prime time I guess
2022-05-22 11:55
i agree at 17.00 or 18.00 would be better, but it's not then end of the world either way. I guess it's overall better for all regions
2022-05-22 14:12
#238
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Lithuania ashas
weak
2022-05-22 14:18
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