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NaVi deserved the lose.
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Europe forze_major_winners 
First map was kinda unlucky but last 15 seconds you rotate all remaining A players off of site based on nothing = unlucky, but deserved 0-1 But Nuke omg, They deserved to lose hard the way they played on There… total cluelessness on the first 10 rounds of T side, many unnecessary maneuvers on CT. Just fucking awful game, b1t and electronic were the only 2 ones to show any resilience. In total, I lost my pickem and a bet but I think this kind of a loss has finally cured me of my addiction. God I’m furious but you can’t deny that NaVi got outplayed and FaZe players are all so loveable, great team GG
2022-05-22 22:54
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s1mple was unlucky with that clutch at 15-14 Otherwise a very deserved win for FaZe
2022-05-22 22:55
20 replies
#2
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Croatia Akagami
that is not luck, ropz read that perfectly, huge props to him. Honestly s1mple outsmarted himself
2022-05-22 22:56
8 replies
+1
2022-05-22 22:56
He just rotated to B through mid it was not reading. S1mple could go B and plant bomb and then play clutch. its game and everything happens
2022-05-22 22:58
1 reply
ok faceit level 4 :D
2022-05-22 23:00
#10
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India gXser
He made better choice in terms of %. Rotate to ct from a is very fast and if ropz holds that angle s1mple never getting across. In any way navi didn't really deserve that round win
2022-05-22 22:59
2 replies
Yeah but I feel like he still outsmarted himself hard there, just like you said it’s likely that ropz is on B but if you know karrigaN and watch his demos he makes sure to never over rotate his players and in that situation he surely told ropz to not change position
2022-05-22 23:02
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Yes, s1mple said so after beating heroic as well, that he often thinks that the opponent will do some extra "smart" moves, but in the end he ends up overthinking and making easy situations more difficult.
2022-05-23 10:14
ropz decision making was super bad, it was only correct read and it was just a weird play from s1mple, still almost choked
2022-05-22 23:03
No one outsmarted anyone they both took a gamble and it paid off for ropz
2022-05-23 12:27
That comes into it too, if he’d won that I’m sure they would’ve won Ancient too. But the way they managed to lose themselves both Nuke and Inferno is just not acceptable imo
2022-05-22 22:56
s1mple never even wouldve had a chance w/o crowd roar
2022-05-22 22:57
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No need to spread hate.
2022-05-22 22:57
#23
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Canada xeIa
nothing unlucky about that s1mple almost killed ropz lol
2022-05-22 23:05
5 replies
he wasnt having the gun in hand wdym??
2022-05-22 23:10
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#33
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Canada xeIa
s1mple got a shot off on him if it was hs would've been GG
2022-05-22 23:20
3 replies
1st bullet hs after u got ur gun out is extremely hard... almost impossibe in that situation
2022-05-22 23:33
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#35
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Canada xeIa
yes but overall ropz big brained s1mple i wouldnt call it unlucky
2022-05-23 01:55
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I dont think that ropz expected him to go A, i think that he wanted to flank him, lurk instinct
2022-05-26 18:15
if you look...both Ropz and S1mple were surprised to collide head-on....if you look you will realize that when they see each other...they freeze for a second...obviously ropz was more lethal in the shot.
2022-05-23 02:20
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well s1mple thought that ropz was already rotating and he started running and ropz could hear him
2022-05-23 09:55
#6
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United States kami917
shouldn't have picked nuke imo
2022-05-22 22:57
9 replies
I’m 99% sure they didn’t wanna pick Ancient cuz they thought they were gonna win atleast one of the first two maps, NaVi would’ve won Ancient imo if they had picked it but it’s still a new map and you don’t wanna go that risky in a Major final so they made the mistake of not picking it.
2022-05-22 22:59
8 replies
#13
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United States kami917
Yeah it definitely would’ve been a lot closer than nuke, but NaVi seemed to be feeling the pressure way more than faze
2022-05-22 23:01
7 replies
True, they just weren’t the NaVi we saw against ENCE and it was clear from the start. I thought they had warmed up by the end of Inferno but then I saw their Nuke lmao
2022-05-22 23:04
6 replies
#24
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Iceland suriel666
i think the 15-14 round tilted them, as he should have just ran to B and planted, probably would won the clutch vs ropz as he was still shifting on A ..
2022-05-22 23:07
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#27
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United States kami917
you could see the confusion on the minimap too, bomb went down and someone on NaVi even ran onto b site before realizing they planted A
2022-05-22 23:12
3 replies
Yup, absolutely awful in the last OT round
2022-05-22 23:13
#30
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Iceland suriel666
that is another round probably, the one i'm talking about was the S1mple vs ropz clutch on 15-14, where s1mple had bomb on mid and could go B, but faked and then ran top mid and ropz heard him, so he got an easy kill on s1mple, while s1mple could have just played "normal" and planted, then won clutch vs ropz and NaVi won Inferno. He even said it in the post match interview yesterday that he tried to outsmart the opponend and think too far ahead, even though they weren't doing crazy things .. so he outsmarted himself. now again
2022-05-22 23:15
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Sure but props to ropz too , dude didnt rotate , if i was in his position id probably run towards B with the knife knowing he has 15sec left and B is open lol. But he stayed , i mean he read s1mple perfectly. S1mple tried to outsmart ropz but ropz reverse outsmart him kinda.
2022-05-23 02:15
They seemed too nervous and missed a lot of shots because of it.
2022-05-23 12:35
Yeah, they deciding to not show up and trying to win maps from 10-5 is 100% on them lmao. I'm hoping that they at least attempt to make roster changes because they're one step away from going back to their form back when they still had Flamie stealing paychecks
2022-05-22 22:59
#15
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Sweden cptbobsy
Feel like navi´s map pool vs faze was bad, would have liked to see ancient 2nd and decide on nuke
2022-05-22 23:02
3 replies
Yeah they rushed the Veto imo, Ancient would’ve been a better pick but they didn’t wanna risk it cuz if Major final and the randomness of Ancient sometimes. KarrigaN outsmarted them in the veto too, he knew they weren’t finna pick Ancient so he prepared for Nuke even harder
2022-05-22 23:07
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#32
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Iceland suriel666
i think they also both have Vertigo as perma ban ? so Faze basically won +1 map on veto by banning Mirage, because NaVi would always ban Vertigo, even just in case.
2022-05-22 23:18
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#42
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Finland FneXie
They do, but FaZe are stronger on the map probably because they won vs. ENCE on it at the ESL pro league finals, which gave them a big advantage in the veto
2022-05-23 10:00
Fully agreed, FaZe played well individually and NaVi definitely made a few too many mistakes. Respect to FaZe
2022-05-22 23:03
tbh on Nuke rain completely destroyed navi with his outside plays and they still got 5 round on T side . If it weren`t for rain`s heroics I think that navi would have easily won nuke rain made a lifegame , completely deserved for him
2022-05-22 23:03
#18
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Ukraine drxxmxr
Why they picked a nuke? Why? Pick Ancient – 100% win vs Faze(99.9%) And after on the +morality take a nuke. Boombl4 – stupid meat. FaZe Clan – GG, Congratulations for carrygun and rain.
2022-05-22 23:04
5 replies
I think they didn’t pick Ancient because of #11
2022-05-22 23:05
ancient t sides are extremely brutal and if navi won one of the first two maps they would start ct side ancient which is a massive advantage
2022-05-22 23:16
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#39
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France marponche
These kids always talk afterhand and seem to know better than navi players and B1ad3.
2022-05-23 02:17
2 replies
+1 maps were fine, NAVI just choked it individually. You can't win with this amount of dumb mistakes. Sleepy start on Inferno, comeback to 15-13 but then awful OT throw. Nuke was the same but they failed comeback against eco (vintage navi). Still it was kinda unlucky game as well. It's really tough to win with 0/4 pistol rounds and always alive rain with 1 hp
2022-05-23 10:07
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#49
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France marponche
Good summary.
2022-05-23 12:25
They won ENCE and Heroic on stage in Nuke and think it would be smart pick against FaZe is so dumb idk how Blade let that slide. Also the amount of throws was ridiculous yeah
2022-05-22 23:04
4 replies
I think that they lost Nuke on the 12-10 round and they chocked Inferno soooo bad.. Im a tryhard Navi, S1mple fan but they didnt deserve the win.. they lost to themeselfes .... The starts of the maps were unacceptable
2022-05-22 23:13
3 replies
im a big papatronic fan,i feel bad for him,he is such a beast,lost the finals cus of S1mple and Boomich
2022-05-23 10:21
2 replies
I think that every single one of them lost a round.. papatronic didnt do his job on inferno, especially on CT
2022-05-26 18:15
1 reply
Still did his jön on nuke and would have done it on ancient
2022-05-27 14:15
#36
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Well if you start with 0-7 deficit on inferno you kinda didn't deserve to win that map. The comeback was alright but started way too late. And in Nuke there wasn't even that much discussion. FaZe was definitely the better team, no questions asked.
2022-05-23 02:02
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#44
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Netherlands SpiceNut
If the comeback started earlier, it wouldn't really have been a comeback..
2022-05-23 10:12
hard to play against 1hp rain in all match
2022-05-23 02:10
You guys shit on navi while csgo has been their number 2 priority for the past month. It's really hard to focus when you and your familly is directly impacted by a war. Of course they wouldnt be 100% ready for that major. Knowing they have so much pressure and talk about banning russian players and disbanding the team and all, you had to be retarded to bet on them. So if you are mad because you lost a bet, it's on you for being stupid.
2022-05-23 10:23
FaZe kinda choked anyway but on Nuke it was a no match
2022-05-23 10:26
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