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Scandinavians are simply best at CS
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Poland BlackMP903 
Russians, CIS, Brazilians... yes, they had and have some great players and teams etc... but conisdering how much swedish, danish cs accomplished, watching karrigan and rain peformance this major, remembering astralis, nip, fnatic, guys from scandinavia earned most major MVPs... what are your opinions on that?
2022-05-22 23:14
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#1
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Norway SkaMathiass
agree bro
2022-05-22 23:15
7 replies
#211
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United States Pronouns
Agreed. Kinda funny how Europe, with 800 mil people, takes the credit of Scandinavia entirely which has less than 20 mil people lmfao. Especially considering the biggest countries like Germany, France, Spain, UK, etc. have nothing accomplished in comparison.
2022-05-23 22:30
6 replies
I would say France is a good cs nation, 2 major wins and produced several top lineups. While Poland unfortunately fell off.
2022-05-24 10:46
3 replies
#222
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Poland paputekk
wtf ence the best polish team???
2022-05-24 11:47
2 replies
no, mouz nxt best
2022-05-24 14:17
+1
2022-05-24 14:18
German law, society and culture sadly never allowed for germany to become a strong region in esports.
2022-05-24 14:27
#237
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Greenland Fenrirrr
haha true
2022-05-24 19:35
+1
2022-05-22 23:16
#3
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Sweden X4l3rio
Quality > quantity i guess
2022-05-22 23:16
60 replies
If we count all of scandinavia we have both
2022-05-22 23:19
59 replies
CIS has more players
2022-05-22 23:24
58 replies
CIS isn't country and Ukraine isn't part of CIS
2022-05-22 23:51
57 replies
#73
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India mirapakay
nt
2022-05-22 23:54
11 replies
nt to what?
2022-05-22 23:57
10 replies
#87
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India mirapakay
for taking ukraine out of CIS
2022-05-23 00:12
9 replies
just facts, I've nothing tried
2022-05-23 11:00
6 replies
#130
KQLY | 
Montenegro 4bnty
Its not a fact its ur opinion, if you think that way it doesnt mean its a fact
2022-05-23 12:55
5 replies
No, its a fact. Do you even know what CIS is?
2022-05-23 15:49
4 replies
#166
KQLY | 
Montenegro 4bnty
cisstat.com/eng/cis.htm dont be a dummy
2022-05-23 15:56
3 replies
It is more so the culture and language of the former soviet states, than it is the name and geographic location. You cannot deny that Ukraine is more like Russia than they are like Denmark.
2022-05-23 15:58
1 reply
#170
KQLY | 
Montenegro 4bnty
Thats what im talking about
2022-05-23 16:01
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_In.. "Ukraine ended its participation in CIS statutory bodies in 2018, due to prolonged tensions with Russia.[5]".
2022-05-23 20:32
ukraine never was in cis lol
2022-05-23 13:09
1 reply
Time to start learning history and visit Wikipedia for self education mate.
2022-05-23 14:34
Scandinavia isn’t a country? Read again stupiiid
2022-05-22 23:56
3 replies
seems like
2022-05-22 23:57
nice edit you are quite well-mannered and educated, judging by your communication
2022-05-23 15:47
1 reply
I don't even remember what the first comment was tbh
2022-05-23 16:21
Ukraine is part of CIS lmao
2022-05-23 11:08
36 replies
No
2022-05-23 11:39
12 replies
Yes
2022-05-23 12:06
11 replies
#164
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Ukraine v0dym
learn what CIS is, then speak
2022-05-23 15:51
10 replies
Be patient! Hes russian
2022-05-23 16:29
When I talk about CIS I talk about region, not org CIS is same thing as ex-Yugoslavia, Baltic states, Benelux, Nordics etc.
2022-05-23 16:48
8 replies
#188
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
no shot what? thats ex-soviet
2022-05-23 19:01
7 replies
#189
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
wait benelux? nordics? ok youre just memeing
2022-05-23 19:02
It's easier to say CIS than ex-Soviet
2022-05-23 20:04
5 replies
#193
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
but theyre different things entirely. & the benelux has nothing to do with it
2022-05-23 20:11
4 replies
In what region Netherlands located? In Benelux In what region Ukraine located? In CIS Its much easier to say CIS than "Post-Sovetskiy region" every time
2022-05-23 20:31
3 replies
#208
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
ooooh when you said "CIS is same thing as ex-Yugoslavia, Baltic states, Benelux, Nordics etc." You meant theyre all regions. I thought you meant they were all CIS. But if you just mean the region then fair enough. +1 My original issue was. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_In.. imgur.com/a/zbvX0xv "Ukraine became an associate member of the CIS Economic Union in April 1994, and Ukraine stopped participating in 2018." But i get you just meant the region
2022-05-23 20:45
2 replies
I know Ukraine isn't part of CIS org
2022-05-23 20:46
1 reply
#210
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Yeah i edited, you must not of seen the edit. I didnt realize you were talking about region not org. Youre correct.
2022-05-23 20:47
learn geography kiddo..
2022-05-23 11:48
13 replies
92/100 points in final school geography exam, how dare you say "learn geography" to me? Ukraine is part of CIS
2022-05-23 12:07
6 replies
I dare! How dare YOU to say any lie about Ukraine with this flag?!
2022-05-23 15:46
1 reply
2022-05-23 16:48
Isnt Cis just Very eastern europe?
2022-05-23 20:15
3 replies
CIS as a region is all ex-Soviet countries except Baltic states
2022-05-23 20:30
2 replies
#204
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Sweden derppey
Your entire argument is around Ukraine being an ex-soviet state, but they want nothing to do with russia. They want to join Eu and NATO, they are more aligned with Europe than CIS.
2022-05-23 20:36
1 reply
That's why Ukraine teams participate in CIS quals instead of EU quals & Ukrainian players play in CIS teams, not EU teams
2022-05-23 20:40
#128
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Brazil Miguer
Ukraine is CIS, this isn't about politics. Ukraine is definitely CIS
2022-05-23 12:48
5 replies
#129
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Czech Republic Ventraks
but CIS is politic group
2022-05-23 12:49
4 replies
#144
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Brazil Miguer
Definition The Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) was created in December 1991 by eleven countries from the ex-USSR: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kirghizstan, Moldavia, Uzbekistan, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine. Georgia joined it in December 1993. The Baltic states (members of the European Union) are the only former Soviet republics that are not members of the CIS.
2022-05-23 13:20
3 replies
#155
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Czech Republic Ventraks
But UA left CIS
2022-05-23 14:39
Ukraine ended its participation in CIS statutory bodies in 2018, due to prolonged tensions with Russia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_In..
2022-05-23 15:44
1 reply
#182
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Brazil Miguer
Lol, didn't know that xd
2022-05-23 16:59
flag
2022-05-23 12:00
8 replies
Facts aren't able to change depending on the flag Ukraine is part of CIS
2022-05-23 12:06
7 replies
it is not and it never was, educate yourself better.. however, why would i tell you that when your flag just proves how delusional you are
2022-05-23 12:29
6 replies
1. Ukraine signed Belovesh "agreements" (Betrayal), so it was part of CIS org 2. By your logic UK, Swizz, Serbia & Albania aren't EU Also UA flair talking about delusions, xaxaxa
2022-05-23 12:44
3 replies
UK, Swizz, Serbia & Albania isnt in EU, nor Norway for that sake. They are all part of the geographical EUROPE though
2022-05-23 13:05
1 reply
+1
2022-05-23 14:47
as i said go educate urself kremlinbot
2022-05-23 18:40
#145
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Brazil Miguer
It is since 1991 when CIS was created. Literally, it is and has always been part of CIS
2022-05-23 13:22
1 reply
dumb
2022-05-23 18:39
#111
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Malaysia AtPdTrZ
soviet union was
2022-05-23 11:39
1 reply
what? CIS didn't existed when USSR was
2022-05-23 11:49
Scandinavia aint no country bro
2022-05-23 20:14
1 reply
I know bud, Scandinavia is subregion, CIS is organization, where Ukraine isn't part of
2022-05-24 19:32
#4
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Brazil MAARSHALL_
agree, , both in cs and outside cs, you are great
2022-05-22 23:17
1 reply
#113
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Sweden Zolity
respect
2022-05-23 11:42
yes
2022-05-22 23:16
#6
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Finland samuuu38
nordics* dont ingore Finland :)
2022-05-22 23:16
41 replies
+1
2022-05-22 23:18
#12
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United States ilkym00th
More like baltic
2022-05-22 23:18
But finland has not accomplished that much tbf
2022-05-22 23:20
4 replies
Sadly true
2022-05-22 23:21
trying to tag in on the praise
2022-05-22 23:21
1 Major final is solid still
2022-05-23 11:40
1 reply
not compared to denmark and sweden, if we count in Finland in the achievements of the nordics the stats will be worse than if we just do Scandinavia
2022-05-23 11:56
Nt trying to ride on Scandinavian supremacy.
2022-05-22 23:21
10 replies
can I ride on scandinavian supremacy as estonian tho
2022-05-22 23:38
8 replies
Nt)))
2022-05-22 23:48
2 replies
:(why you bully me
2022-05-22 23:48
1 reply
Because you are Estonian?
2022-05-23 15:59
Estonia is geographically more north than Denmark, so we deserve to be in the Nordics more
2022-05-23 11:16
4 replies
No, Baltic…
2022-05-23 12:47
You are part of us in some way. "According to the legend, on 15 June 1219 the Danish flag Dannebrog fell down from the sky in Tallinn. The legend goes that during his crusade to Estonia Danish king Valdemar II was close to losing the Lyndanise battle near present day Tallinn, but suddenly a flag fell down from the sky."
2022-05-23 13:25
2 replies
I'm aware of this, you should really start paying licensing fees to us
2022-05-23 13:50
1 reply
we are in form of turism :)
2022-05-23 14:12
#69
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Greenland Fenrirrr
+1
2022-05-22 23:52
No major yet....
2022-05-22 23:21
#36
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Poland BlackMP903
Not to say anything bad about finnish cs, but well, apart from major final against astralis there's not a particular moment they written some history IMO
2022-05-22 23:24
#55
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
Gtfo Eston1a has more major winners than F0nland. We kick you out of nordics and invite Estonia.
2022-05-22 23:34
15 replies
Estonia is nordics nt fake flagger
2022-05-22 23:56
10 replies
#97
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Denmark sNju
I don't know if you're baiting or ignorant. Either way, this is the Nordic countries; Denmark, Finland, Iceland Norway, Sweden. (and Faroe Islands + Greenland = Kingdom of Denmark) This is the Scandinavian countries; Denmark, Norway, Sweden.
2022-05-23 11:18
9 replies
Then why is Denmark more south than Estonia?
2022-05-23 11:19
8 replies
#102
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Denmark sNju
Then why is Russia more North than ..... cmon dude. This is about culture etc, and Denmark/Norway/Sweden is practically the same. We could unite as one big country tomorrow, and pretty much noone would give two fucks.
2022-05-23 11:22
5 replies
I'm joking mens, the mindset of the people here is still from the 19th century, we are stagnating
2022-05-23 11:24
#106
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Sweden gNeJS
+1, as long we could keep our national teams in sports I would actually like this. Bigger country = more impact in global politics = better for the people. And Danes and Norwegians are nice people so wouldnt mind spending more time with them.
2022-05-23 11:30
3 replies
Danes nice, good one mate.
2022-05-23 11:35
1 reply
#109
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Sweden gNeJS
Not in your MM lobby maybe but everytime i go to Copenhagen they treat me well and are always nice and easy to talk to.
2022-05-23 11:37
#216
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Denmark sNju
But Sweden could actually have a nice national team in football? Would be nice!
2022-05-24 00:25
It is not about geography, it is about culture and languages. Estonians are nothing like danes, but finns are much more alike to danes.
2022-05-23 16:00
1 reply
I agree it's not about geography, i was just joking. I think it's more about the economy and such. But your point isn't really valid as we're basically the same culture wise as Finns, so by saying that Finland is culturally close to Denmark you're also implying that Estonia is culturally similar to Denmark
2022-05-23 16:26
we arent interested in swedistan
2022-05-22 23:58
3 replies
Immigrants and guys kissing is really scary, right?
2022-05-23 11:18
"we arent interested" okey irrelevant tiny country...
2022-05-24 14:16
#95
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Finland d0udy3160
+1
2022-05-23 11:16
#105
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Finland 5way
*scandinavia he used the word for a reason, finland has not achieved anything in majors except the 2nd place of ence
2022-05-23 11:28
What has Finland even done in cs? Allu in nip and ence reaching a major final??
2022-05-23 12:45
2 replies
Major final is good achievement. For example last time Sweden was in the finals was in 2015.
2022-05-23 13:02
1 reply
Yeah actually true Ence run was one for the history books
2022-05-23 13:33
they're really good
2022-05-22 23:17
#8
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Denmark = 4 (5) majors Sweden = 4 majors Norway = (1) major 9 major MVP's. 9 out of 17 majors or roughly 53% of all majors. Also 7 2nd place finish (If you include Finland) otherwise it's 6 Scandinavia (nordics) > Any cs region.
2022-05-22 23:19
14 replies
Finland: P...p...please let me in. Axaxaxa.
2022-05-22 23:19
11 replies
I mean, two major finals. It's still something, not a lot compared to other nordic countries but.. something.
2022-05-22 23:22
6 replies
:D
2022-05-22 23:23
#38
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
If you mean Finland, they only have 1 major final. The dream EZ4ENCE Run in kato 2019. That's it, like 6 glory months for finnish cs.
2022-05-22 23:24
4 replies
They're honestly still far better than other countries with larger populations like Italy, Austria, Netherlands etc. All in all I'd say Finland is a decent nation for CS with allu, ENCE and havu.
2022-05-22 23:27
1 reply
#99
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Denmark sNju
They actually have something fun to do in the winter. All we can do is play computer ;)
2022-05-23 11:19
#75
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Ukraine Valta
nip with allu was in major final
2022-05-22 23:56
These months were fun, not gonna lie
2022-05-23 13:06
Swedens last major final 2015...
2022-05-23 13:04
3 replies
Finlands last major win....oh wait.
2022-05-23 16:54
1 reply
D:
2022-05-24 11:54
still 4 majors and nip being a top team right now
2022-05-24 14:16
+ a decade in 1.6 from NIP, SK to fnatic... pretty impressive for a region of +-20 mil
2022-05-22 23:21
#57
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
That’s only csgo. 1.6 again Scandinavia strong.
2022-05-22 23:35
+1, 2nd best are slavs, 3rd are brazilians, 4th the rest(except NA-they didn't make it onto the list)
2022-05-22 23:17
#13
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Norway TheDEA
Yes, Norwegians are the best and have accomplished so much in CSGO. I think 777 even won a Norwegian tournament recently. Sick
2022-05-22 23:18
3 replies
Rain literally just got the MVP award from the major he just won??
2022-05-22 23:25
2 replies
#52
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Norway TheDEA
Sick
2022-05-22 23:32
#58
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
Yeah but the major wasn’t even in Norway who cars.
2022-05-22 23:36
#14
JW | 
Sweden bakish
Same goes for olympics, looking at our small populations we have an insane number of trophies
2022-05-22 23:19
4 replies
#23
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Poland BlackMP903
Well I think it goes with winter olympic games, so I don't think I need to explain that hahaha
2022-05-22 23:21
1 reply
topendsports.com/events/summer/medal-tal.. Actually we are good even in Summer olympics
2022-05-23 22:40
#53
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Norway TheDEA
Denmark so sick in winter olympics!
2022-05-22 23:33
1 reply
That wasn't nice
2022-05-23 00:08
Dutch 🤌🏻
2022-05-22 23:19
#20
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Denmark flapdur
Big and well organized scenes. Better to be big sport in small country than small sport in big country => more respect and motivation.
2022-05-22 23:19
#21
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Brazil art1mus
+1 but CIS is coming to take that spot
2022-05-22 23:20
3 replies
If CIS kept winning tournaments from this day on, they would probably surpass Scandinavia in like 5 years which will never happen
2022-05-23 17:28
-1 dont agree CIS is trash
2022-05-23 20:16
1 reply
#218
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Brazil art1mus
high on copium
2022-05-24 01:59
#24
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Russia avvakum
thats why finland is missing out real bad, that explains everything!
2022-05-22 23:20
Yeah Scandinavia just built different, they had 13 danish players, 4 swedish players and 1 from Norway in the major playoffs. That's almost 50% participants from Scandinavia, 18/40 players.
2022-05-22 23:20
1 reply
Actually ridiculous.
2022-05-22 23:24
+1
2022-05-22 23:21
Scandinavia has the best cs players per capita
2022-05-22 23:23
Danes especially Somehow 5 of 8 playoff teams had a least one Dane on their roster 13 danish players including 4 IGLs
2022-05-22 23:25
2 replies
#44
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Poland BlackMP903
But before that swedes werw on top, NiP, Fnatic
2022-05-22 23:25
#60
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
Danes especially now and 5 years back but before that it was Swedes on top. We fell off and still are on of the stronger cs nations.
2022-05-22 23:38
#41
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Denmark TheZpike
I can't believe how many scandinavian flags are in this thread, lol
2022-05-22 23:25
4 replies
I can’t believe you have the word pik in your name, *** pls Kids on this site
2022-05-22 23:28
#50
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Sweden X4l3rio
This thread became a Scandinavian circlejerk for better or worse
2022-05-22 23:30
A feel good thread for us :)
2022-05-22 23:47
#70
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Greenland Fenrirrr
of course, we cherish together, SKÅL
2022-05-22 23:53
true that, but looking at the nordic scene atm, its looking pretty shit isnt it ? only nip managed to make it to the arena, other then that nothing
2022-05-22 23:32
2 replies
#61
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Poland BlackMP903
Heroic?
2022-05-22 23:43
NiP, CPH, Heroic, FaZe (karrigan&rain) and ENCE (Snappi&sAw)
2022-05-23 00:01
Just wait for finnish era
2022-05-22 23:34
4 replies
#90
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Finland AksuNd
Aleksib Jamppi Xseven Jimpphat Aerial Ez major
2022-05-23 11:05
2 replies
#92
jabbi | 
Poland czan
this can't happen sadly bro no way you can get jamppi and jimpphat isn't be good enough for t2 /t1.5 yet
2022-05-23 11:07
1 reply
#107
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Finland 5way
Jimpphat maybe not yet but let's what he can do mouz nxt. Jamppi coming back cs would probably take a year or 2
2022-05-23 11:31
fuck that, waiting for icelandic era
2022-05-23 11:57
Yes
2022-05-22 23:34
Come on guys humble pls mens
2022-05-22 23:44
1 reply
Its funny because our countries are famous for being the most humble on earth pretty much, Bragging is almost frowned upon here in Sweden :)
2022-05-22 23:49
ez
2022-05-22 23:45
CIS isn't country, be more concrete with countries
2022-05-22 23:53
thanks man :)
2022-05-22 23:53
Thanks!
2022-05-23 00:03
2 replies
lol
2022-05-23 00:08
#91
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Cveta
NT
2022-05-23 11:06
cis scene>
2022-05-23 00:04
Flags checking out GJ tho
2022-05-23 00:43
#94
RpK | 
Finland Lattee
And we have saw! Best handclapper in the scene
2022-05-23 11:11
historically atleast, i hope scandinavian scene on the rise again. NIP, heroic and cph flames, astralis. Wish there were more rosters from sweden and finland now tho :/
2022-05-23 11:25
2 replies
Its actually many swedish players but not many good teams :P
2022-05-24 11:55
1 reply
true
2022-05-24 12:59
Yea and even when you play faceit man Danish people always play so hard you never beat them easily idk why
2022-05-23 12:45
#131
KQLY | 
Montenegro 4bnty
Lmao people hopping on that scandinavian dick don't want to face the fact that CIS players are more skillful and the best player ever (Both CSGO and CS 1.6) were slavic not scandinavian
2022-05-23 12:58
4 replies
Bruh
2022-05-23 16:08
Tell that to all the Slavs that stopped watching cs after seeing s0mple being humiliated by prime astralis
2022-05-23 20:43
1 reply
#219
KQLY | 
Montenegro 4bnty
and where is astralis?
2022-05-24 10:25
Nah dude
2022-05-24 11:56
+1
2022-05-23 13:06
this is the reason im fakeflagging. one big ass scandinavian circlejerk.
2022-05-23 13:20
Expected danish flag
2022-05-23 14:20
#153
jks | 
Denmark rolade
More talented less players from scand than russia and prob brazil So overall i agree, but i would like to see more scandinavians joining csgo so i dont have to queue with CIS people all the time in MM
2022-05-23 14:24
In Sweden we had a really good internet connection already in the early 2000's. This and the expansion of IT cafes here I think contributed to our e-sport scene very early on. I grew up in Stockholm and when I was young we had gaming cafes everywhere and kids went there on the weekends and after schooldays to just play against each other in different fps games. Also I think that teams like SK, Nip, and fnatic (a little later) inspired swedish kids in the early days of counter-strike.
2022-05-23 15:24
I'm happy that you said Scandinavians and not just Sweden/Norway/Denmark :') but yeah, -finland...
2022-05-23 15:50
+10000
2022-05-23 15:53
#174
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Sweden Willegus
+1
2022-05-23 16:10
Russians still better.
2022-05-23 16:27
1 reply
Russians still better? Well, historically is Scandinavian players best in a LOT of games so N T BRUH
2022-05-23 18:47
+1
2022-05-23 18:41
not finland
2022-05-23 20:05
1 reply
#203
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Denmark grindz
not scandinavia bro
2022-05-23 20:34
Living standards (relatively more spare time than avg) and the cold weather pushing people indoors are some of the main factors for this.
2022-05-23 20:09
dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/finla.. Finland simply the best :D:D
2022-05-23 20:21
Denmark number 1. we have the richest esport player n0tail ez
2022-05-23 20:40
I created the thread regarding this matter: hltv.org/forums/threads/2579073/nordics-..
2022-05-23 22:52
Brazil accomplishing 2 majors as a third world country is more impressive than any European doing the same lol
2022-05-24 00:49
1 reply
u have like 200 million ppl in brazil tho?
2022-05-24 14:23
#225
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Austria nairolf
That's a fact, anyone that disagrees is just coping
2022-05-24 11:55
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