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2022 the "competitive" year
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Italy Nelex5000 
almost complete bull crap, and we all know the reason behind it. -Navi, about to collapse into tier 2 or barely 1 (kicking 3 players who have been there for years) -"outsiders" (-buster -yekindar ... not that it makes a difference since they weren't going to take any titles anyways) -g2 ... nothing hltv doesnt know about -astralis and vitality... disappointing results -fnatic... basically tier 3 at this point with all these nonsense changes. might aswell sell the entire roster. -liquid + shox.......... -eg... ultra disappointing but everyone knows including the players. i dont think there's a need of -brehze and -cerq but they are washed rn and have no motivation. unless that changes, they'll have to go and get someone to igl instead of stewie -mouz has two vac banned players now also -nbk for no rational reason -og is finished lmao but idk if it's an upgrade they don't have aleksib anymore -eternal fire was a good team on paper, but i dont really think they can do good at this rate, their vibes are ruined and imorr is blatantly throwing games on challengers'. makes you wonder if they made themselves tilted on purpose to mask matchfixing. to be fair, they'd get more money by doing that than actually winning games at the major. there's been some chaos lately, this player shuffle really messed things up for some teams. liquid is the only team i believe in, which is ironic but they do look more promising than astralis at least. And now there's gonna be another shuffle because post major. Which is bad because teams will never be consistent like this. That's literally how navi got to #1. flamie was a pain to carry and b1t literally fixed everything. Even at the grand final he was the only one tryharding. It says a lot about him There have been some good changes though: -faze +ropz (even though I'm not a fan of faze, it's a disgusting organization on how they even got the roster in the first place. Wish it had been mousesports but you can't get everything can you) was definitely a good asset for the roster and he got reunited with karrigan -g2 +m0nesy, this guy still needs to develop but it's a direct huge upgrade from amanek who wasn't a main awper and had to improvise and practice awp. There's still a missing piece to the team though. a good igl who can lead niko and make him shine -liquid +nitro and +osee, still needs some time to shine -the entire imperial roster. idk why you people call them a "meme" roster, i know that no one expected them to perform but they have, the point was just to reunite and compete again instead of stealing paychecks... also, on paper, this is a really insane team. How can you say it's a bad team? vini was in furia, he's young. boltz, not young but not old either, and he does have the skill to compete... fer monster, this guy exceeded all expectations. fallen was just about in liquid before so why would he be washed? fnx is a bit washed, yes, and i'd argue he's the only one that could be replaced. But then again, why? it's the last dance for a reason. -bad news eagles are insane, the fact that they got to legends stage says a lot. it's not an fpl stack, the entire team is in synergy with one another. -complexity is a solid roster on paper. let's hope they'll keep grinding. reminds me of 2019 EG for some reason So actually, it's not looking too grim, pun intended, but it's very messy. Let's hope the rio major gives us better competition.
2022-05-23 19:14
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how is navi tier2 when they reached major finals?
2022-05-23 19:15
21 replies
+1 lmao stopped reading at that
2022-05-23 19:15
9 replies
flag, flair and name. all checks out
2022-05-23 19:18
8 replies
Bro youre one of those people that just look at what other people say on reddit and hltv you dont watch the games and just look at stats and say things based off that. shut up
2022-05-23 19:51
3 replies
I literally watched the entire major, but okay. Also permabanned on reddit years ago (rent free). I think most hltv threads discussing matches are never really truthful and most of them are baits made by gold novas who don't understand how games at high level work. So what's your argument now?
2022-05-23 19:52
2 replies
What? No way you're a real person. "rent free". "so whats your argument now". Go outside bro nobody talks like that.
2022-05-23 19:58
1 reply
0/8 cope you gotta try harder than that.
2022-05-23 19:59
Italy talking about flag on a cs forum. Omegalul
2022-05-24 09:18
3 replies
#104
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Italy MrGreenyx
ooh whats wrong with my flag man :(
2022-05-24 14:13
2 replies
If the priests from Vatican start playing cs they will have a bigger scene than Italy does lol. I love your country tho, best one I ever visited in Europe.
2022-05-24 14:16
1 reply
#106
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Italy MrGreenyx
ahahaha sadly, you are right
2022-05-24 16:10
#8
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Latvia Licha_
did you even read the sentence till end or what
2022-05-23 19:17
1 reply
no
2022-05-23 19:20
after they kick half the roster.. lol? can u read?
2022-05-23 19:18
3 replies
didnt read, stopped right there
2022-05-23 19:20
2 replies
Ok. Stay illiterate then? I don't know what you're expecting me to reply to you.
2022-05-23 19:20
Then it's a you problem not the OP
2022-05-23 19:37
+1
2022-05-23 19:42
are you a king kunta or smooth criminal fan?
2022-05-23 20:26
2 replies
both tbh
2022-05-24 09:07
1 reply
me too, respect
2022-05-24 10:30
i think everyone thought that at first line
2022-05-24 09:16
schizoposting
2022-05-23 19:16
1 reply
I'm glad you view it that way, I guess.
2022-05-23 19:21
Did all italian hltv users reunite to make useless threads today?
2022-05-23 19:16
2 replies
Yesh my boy
2022-05-23 19:18
1 reply
Your thread was fine
2022-05-23 19:19
Didn't read
2022-05-23 19:16
2 replies
thanks
2022-05-23 19:18
tl
2022-05-24 09:16
#6
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Brazil Gravelord
ESL Rio is FURIA's major.
2022-05-23 19:16
what about nip
2022-05-23 19:17
6 replies
They look solid, surprisingly. Honestly, I could've pointed out the fact that nip with phzy is way better and more consistent than nip with es3tag, no hate to him but he's not a main awper is he? phzy is, and he's shown his worth many times in his short time at nip. Better and more impactful than device and he was for free... lol
2022-05-23 19:19
5 replies
dev1ce rating in NIP, 1.13 PHZY rating in NIP, 0.95 nt
2022-05-23 19:33
"Better and more impactful than device and he was for free... lol" trolling
2022-05-23 20:00
3 replies
u didnt see the games with phzy have you.
2022-05-23 20:01
2 replies
did you
2022-05-23 20:08
1 reply
yes.
2022-05-23 20:08
who's on VACation in mouz?
2022-05-23 19:18
18 replies
torzsi and bymas have vac banned accounts. But for some reason, they can still compete at majors, tournaments and major rmr.
2022-05-23 19:19
17 replies
probably nothing interesting, just another case of a old account being banned for stupid 12 year old reasons, nothing to worry about
2022-05-23 19:27
16 replies
So why was jampi banned and not these kids? Why was kqly banned and not these kids?
2022-05-23 19:28
15 replies
KQLY was a pro when he cheated wtf are you talking about Jampi ban lifted when Volvo changed the rules
2022-05-23 19:38
6 replies
Show me objective proof he cheated in LAN tournaments.
2022-05-23 19:40
5 replies
"On the 20th of November 2014 KQLY received a Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) ban for Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, [1] following a series of other pro bans. Following the news, he was quickly suspended by Titan eSports and later kicked from the team. [2][3] The news also meant that Titan was unable to attend DreamHack Winter 2014. [4] The next day KQLY made an official statement regarding the ban, admitting that the ban was "justified"." Source: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/KQLY#:~:tex..
2022-05-23 19:43
4 replies
Ah, so no proof? Where's the actual cheat ?
2022-05-23 19:43
3 replies
He himself admitting is not "proof"?
2022-05-23 19:45
2 replies
Of course he admitted. He cheated in matchmaking with friends. He admitted to what he did.
2022-05-23 19:49
1 reply
The guy never claimed that KQLY cheated on LAN though. He said that it happened when "he was a pro". And that's true. He was also not a kid when that happened. It's you who have read that as "it happened on LAN" somehow. You probably confused two branches of replies here. Or what, we should allow pros to cheat if it's matchmaking?
2022-05-24 09:25
#48
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United States Azaqa
torzsi WAS banned from majors but he was unbanned recently, right when mouz moved him to main roster. He has passed the 5 year unban limit that saw other pros unbanned such as vsm. Bymas Idk about though. Jampi is also now unbanned. Kqly cheated in pro matches that's very different.
2022-05-23 19:46
6 replies
Show me proof that he cheated in pro matches and not in matchmaking with friends and free cheats.
2022-05-23 19:49
5 replies
#57
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United States Azaqa
there are many many suspicious clips of him, and after him being banned its not like its unthinkable that he cheated in officials...
2022-05-23 19:57
4 replies
Okay, show them, please.
2022-05-23 19:57
3 replies
It's not that KQLY was cheating in pro matches it's that he got his VAC ban after he'd already participated in Valve-Sponsored events.
2022-05-23 20:03
2 replies
Okay... So he wasn't cheating in officials? Would you look at that.
2022-05-23 20:04
1 reply
Different person, but that's valve's own rules. If you had a VAC before you competed in a valve-sponsored event, you'd be banned for 5 years, if you had a VAC after, you were banned permanently.
2022-05-23 20:07
idk u tell me
2022-05-27 20:53
#15
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Russia Soawii
did you type all of this
2022-05-23 19:19
1 reply
Yes, why wouldn't I have. What makes you think it's a copy pasta??
2022-05-23 19:20
this guy is all over HLTV with shit takes
2022-05-23 19:20
2 replies
all checks out.
2022-05-23 19:21
not shit just not good either
2022-05-23 19:23
don't care, didn't ask
2022-05-23 19:23
#29
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Brazil Anarchybr
Read everything and then went to your name to check if you were “Mental_Case”. Unfortunately he’s banned. Maybe you are an alt of him?
2022-05-23 19:29
1 reply
who?
2022-05-23 19:40
"nothing hltv doesn't know about" except for the fact hltv knows shit
2022-05-23 19:29
1 reply
well, aleksibot should go... that's what hltv knows. there's a thread about g2 aleksibot every day 5 times a day
2022-05-23 19:41
#31
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Estonia tonyi
I hope you get the help you need.
2022-05-23 19:31
3 replies
Elaborate, please.
2022-05-23 19:41
2 replies
#71
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Estonia tonyi
Stay strong, my friend. It gets better.
2022-05-23 20:07
1 reply
lol... what even are you saying ..
2022-05-23 20:09
Who else is rumored to be - Navi? I guess im OOTL I've only heard the electronic rumors.
2022-05-23 19:32
#34
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Italy Skye620
Edit: I can't read apparently
2022-05-23 19:34
#39
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Bulgaria |mens|
complexity and 2019 have nothing in common, one had 3 top 20 players and reached major semifinals, the other are 4/5 t2 players who can't do anything
2022-05-23 19:41
2 replies
True
2022-05-23 19:42
#49
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United States Azaqa
honestly col can be a t1/1.5 team if they kicked junior for a real awper
2022-05-23 19:47
Yes, 2022 is the competitive year, (EU teams begins to losing)
2022-05-23 19:45
#50
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Brazil Ties4
tldr
2022-05-23 19:48
It was looking to be one of the best year at the beginning unfortunately the war has fucked with CIS teams and some of the biggest projects like G2 and Vitality didnt turn out as great as they were supposed to.Its a shame,it was looking so exciting with so many great rosters on paper.
2022-05-23 19:49
1 reply
+1
2022-05-23 20:03
#54
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Ukraine d3adLY
navi wont kick perfecto, and -elec -boom +yekindar +someone else is good replacement
2022-05-23 19:50
10 replies
which still proves my point, lol.
2022-05-23 20:03
9 replies
#69
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Ukraine d3adLY
"Navi, about to collapse into tier 2 or barely 1 (kicking 3 players who have been there for years)"?? where u said tier 2 or barely tier 1
2022-05-23 20:04
8 replies
Not #1 or #2. Changing rosters will always, objectively, lead to a fall in overall skill of the team.
2022-05-23 20:05
7 replies
#76
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Ukraine d3adLY
top 5 team is barely tier 1 or what?
2022-05-23 20:10
6 replies
if navi changes roster they'll be top 30 at best.
2022-05-23 20:10
5 replies
#78
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Ukraine d3adLY
aahahhaah, lmao they will have atleast top 10(if +yekindar and +idk who), if this second guy is good then top 3-5
2022-05-23 20:11
4 replies
Which is still a huge downgrade considering they'd have s1mple in theory. :/
2022-05-23 20:12
3 replies
#80
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Ukraine d3adLY
so u think s1mple will leave navi? noway
2022-05-23 20:14
2 replies
I hope not, but if he does he's got nowhere to go for #1 team. Maybe -broky but why in the world would they ever remove broky lol
2022-05-23 20:14
1 reply
#85
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Ukraine d3adLY
cuz s1mple is better every team wants s1mple, even if they have 5 good players
2022-05-23 22:53
#60
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Brazil jzeni
Can u explain mouz having 2 vac banned players i didn`t understand
2022-05-23 19:58
1 reply
t*rzsi and b*mas both have vac bans.
2022-05-23 20:03
I mean it was looking like that, but things turned out different, there's still time though.
2022-05-23 20:37
What does VAC banned players have to do with MOUZ? They can compete at any event, since they lifted thier bans. If you think that if someone cheated at 14 should be banned for lifetime you are a lunatic.
2022-05-23 20:39
#86
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Sweden MelkerPolo
Don't worry, 2022 will be saved by the most successful org of all time being revitalized and making it four in Rio.
2022-05-23 23:16
tldr?
2022-05-24 09:11
News just in, only one team can win a tournament.
2022-05-24 09:16
I thought this was a pretty quality post in terms of short blurbs. Don’t have to agree with all of them but this isn’t some meme.
2022-05-24 09:25
#95
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Nepal Zenrod
You want MOUZ to get the entire FaZe roster? Really don't understand that comment.
2022-05-24 09:29
1 reply
If ropz and karrigan stayed in mouz and just changed the entire roster to what faze 2022 looks like ... then i would have more respect for them. but they won a major with the shady company.
2022-05-24 13:09
2016 is the real competitive year, look at the top 20, 80% of them cs:go legends
2022-05-24 09:36
"(kicking 3 players who have been there for years)" Bro stop reading gossips from the back of the cereal box... No 1 knows for sure if they're getting rid of the russians or not
2022-05-24 10:34
5 replies
They are, because if they don't relocate they will have to be kicked. And since they support war crimes, they won't relocate.
2022-05-24 13:10
4 replies
Source: trust me bro
2022-05-24 14:07
3 replies
It was literally on an hltv article and confirmed by navi
2022-05-24 17:09
2 replies
Well, can you share a link? I don't really trust u :)))
2022-05-24 19:51
1 reply
cba you'll see anyways...
2022-05-24 19:58
Kicked or not, the remaining players for navi dont have their mind fully in the game right now anyway.
2022-05-24 10:42
3 replies
Still, how are they ever gonna recover if they make this change? I was hoping that when the """drama""" is over they'd just come back to normal form.
2022-05-24 13:11
2 replies
A war is a little more than "drama". The removal of the russian players is a consequence, but not the cause of their problems. They wont be back until they know that their families are safe and that could take months, csgo became number 2 on their priority list.
2022-05-24 16:21
1 reply
I didn't want to say war. That's why I said drama.
2022-05-24 17:08
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